smart meters and antibiotics

Are you saying that  garlic and onions, tend to drop mercury
and redistribute it, elsewhere in the body? Are you basing this on? Or is it that when you eat this stuff, they make you feel worse. I wonder, is there a possiibility that a person could feel worse eating a nutrient that their body was deficiient in...and maybe they felt worse not because of the actual mineral they were taking, that the body needs, but because
 the body was actually unloading toxins? Often when the body is unloading or detoxing, the kidneys can become overwhelmed. And, as the kidneys are just beneath the adrenal glands, this area is also effected.
 It is true, that mercury competes for the sulfur receptors. Although in the tons of Autism research I have read, they mostly refer to the Methionine cycle or phase - not calling it a sulfur receptor site.
As for other known chelators, see following paragraph regarding a new (to me) natural chelator called Metal-Free.
How does Metal-Free work?






 


Only $129.95
240 sprays
per bottle

Metal-Free® consists of a group of unique peptides that are unlike the other chelators on the market. The ingredients in Metal-Free stick very tightly to heavy metals so they won't be dropped off and cause trouble elsewhere. The bonds are very tight and enable the heavy metal to be removed from the body without dropping it off at some other site. Other chelators like EDTA and DMPS have a weaker bond, and may bind to a heavy metal in one area of the body and drop it off at another. For example, if lead is picked up from the bone by EDTA and dropped off in the brain, a worse condition can result.
Anyone who wants to read more about the above product can go to: www.BODYHEALTH.com (no, I don't make any money off of this..I came across this product a few weeks ago...and it looks promising from what  I've read, and the source who recommended it.) For the record, I don't make any money off any of the products I mention.
Again...it is NOT wise to try to detox when the immune system is in a weakened state..this means if health is not good. However, eating superfoods -starting with TINY amts for those who are very sensitive..AND slowly taking small small doses of vital minerals and vitamins...small doses/GRADUALLY building up the amount...does help strenghthen the immune system. Food based nutrients rich in mnerals/vitamins are-in my opinion, the safest way to go, as long as those foods/supplements ect are as pure as can be. (can't guarantee all of them)..but just grabbbng a bottle off a shelf somewhere willy nilly isn't a good idea either!)
And while I'm here, I want to mention something else. This may be an anomoly, but it may NOT be. When my daughter was sickened by toxic exposures to mold, I was very cautious with the small amts of natural remedies I used. What I discovered was, that in these cases, when she needed an anti fungal, the tiny doses didn't work. But when I gave her super doses, it did work quite quickly. I suspect this has to do with the micro wave radiation, and how it multiplies toxins, be it mold/viruses/bacterial/micro toxins. I have seen this play out with friends too.
One thing to add here: when I gave her anything that was: anti bacterial, anti fungal, ect..I also gave her probiotics.
 
Lizzie
 

 



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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:03:52 -0800
Subject: RE: [eSens] Sulfur


 



> End of Lesson for the day.

One more item -- Sulfur grabs onto mercury -- that is why you see
people using sulfur-based products (DMSA, DMPS, ALA, OSR) for mercury
detox. However, some forms of mercury "hold onto" mercury better than
others, which means they have a better chance of getting
the mercury out of your body. While other forms of Sulfur (MSM,
onions, garlic) don't hold onto mercury very well, so that mercury
gets "dropped" (redistributed) elsewhere in your body.

So if you are mercury-poisoned and want to get more
sulfur into your diet, you might want to use something that can
reduce the amount of mercury in your body, rather than just
move it somewhere else within your body.

Marc



     

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> Are you saying that  garlic and onions, tend to drop mercury

Yes, that's right... I learned this by following the Andy Cutler
frequent dose chelation groups.  There, they talk about different
sulfur foods/supplements having one or two "thiol groups".  If
something has one thiol group (e.g., garlic, onions), then it will
dislodge the mercury from your body but that mercury will likely
land somewhere else in your body, because one thiol group isn't
enough to hang onto mercury for long.  If something has two
thiol groups (e.g. DHLA), then the mercury will more likely
remain attached and exit your body.  Especially if you have a
fairly level supply of it in your bloodstream (e.g, you take
some every few hours).

I haven't really heard many (if any?) positive reports on
Metal Free, although it has been around for awhile.

Marc
 

That can only happen if you have a "broken" detox pathway. Garlic and onions are some of the healthiest foods on the planet. I can't wait to eat them again.

~Mahalo~
Christin Brezil

(sent from my phone,
please excuse any typos)

On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

> That can only happen if you have a "broken" detox pathway. Garlic
> and onions are some of the healthiest foods on the planet. I can't
> wait to eat them again.

Yes, but I'd guess that MOST of the people suffering from ES have
a broken detox pathway (or two!).

Marc
 

I would agree....
At least I do....

~Mahalo~
Christin Brezil

(sent from my phone,
please excuse any typos)

On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:18 PM, "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Glutathione is mentioned in so many articles pertaining to detox. Glutathione needs sulfur.
Sulfur is part of many amino acids. Sulfur is critical for oxygen transport. Sulfur is needed for protein synthesis.
Insulin is a hormone made from sulfur-rich proteins containg methionine and cysteine. Joints need Sulfur
to repair. Sulfur is needed for the liver's ability to detox.
Sulfur plays a role in Taurine. Doesn't it make more sense to ensure adequate amts of Sulfur-
instead of trying to take all these other supplements separately, as I have read on this site, many times?
How do you help heal the body without sulfur? How does one go about healing the body's "broken detoxification
pathways without somehow adding in the missing nutrients that body needs to heal that broken pathway?"
One of which is Sulfur.
It seems to me that people can mistake and blame a reaction
to a substance/mineral/ nutrient...the reaction isn't an end. Its merely a symptom. It  IS the body
telling you that something is wrong, nutrients are missing that are vital for the body to do its job.
The body's ability to properly metabolise nutrients is dependent upon the body having the right
supply of: minerals and vitamins and hormones.  So either the body is being given the right
nutrients, but is not able to use them, and/or the nutrient absorption is being blocked, or the nutrients
are lacking inthe diet. Simplified, there are two ways to approach this:
Doing chelation using the various
methods, which can end up easily over loading the body's garbage can (liver/kidneys)
or giving the body the tools (NUTRIENTS/MINERALS) it needs to do its job...a much slower
way...with small amts..and gradually upping the amts...which means as the body absorbs more
of these vital nutrients, it is able to naturally excrete the toxins. Combining this second method
with juicing/or simply putting veggies in a blender... which greatly helps the liver clean it outself out..
as the liver has to digest all solid foods- has a history of being a safe and healthy way to build
up the body's immune system.
Look at it this way: if the body had "had" adequate amts of: Iodine/ Magnesium/ Sulfur/ Selenium/
Zinc/ Calcium and trace minerals, the chances are much lower, that the body's toxic burden would
have ended up in the category of toxic over load  (poisoned). Its because most of us had NOT enough of these vital minerals to start with-
that toxicity created so many issues. Dis-ease/ or un health is caused basically from two things: Lack of Nutrition/ Toxic Over Load.
It doesn't matter which one came first..one opens the door to the other.
 
NOw while not every method works for every person, the one thing that remains
(in my opinion) a standing rule, is this: the body needs the right tools / NUTRIENTS to be healthy.
Leave out one crucial element of those nutrients, can mean the difference between a healthy immune system-
and a struggling stressed out immune system.
*As for the subject of Sulfur? I think we're all gonna be reading alot about this missing nutrient in the days/months
to come. Personally I think its way up there with: Vit D3, Iodine, and Magnesium. (not to say the others are not
important, but these are the ones the body needs large amounts of.)
 
Wishing all of you a wonderful victory filled New Year!
Lizzie
 

 



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From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:18:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sulfur


 



> That can only happen if you have a "broken" detox pathway. Garlic
> and onions are some of the healthiest foods on the planet. I can't
> wait to eat them again.

Yes, but I'd guess that MOST of the people suffering from ES have
a broken detox pathway (or two!).

Marc




     

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Sounds right to me, at least on the right path to reason.

--- On Sat, 12/31/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Sulfur
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 4:44 PM



 




Glutathione is mentioned in so many articles pertaining to detox. Glutathione needs sulfur.
Sulfur is part of many amino acids. Sulfur is critical for oxygen transport. Sulfur is needed for protein synthesis.
Insulin is a hormone made from sulfur-rich proteins containg methionine and cysteine. Joints need Sulfur
to repair. Sulfur is needed for the liver's ability to detox.
Sulfur plays a role in Taurine. Doesn't it make more sense to ensure adequate amts of Sulfur-
instead of trying to take all these other supplements separately, as I have read on this site, many times?
How do you help heal the body without sulfur? How does one go about healing the body's "broken detoxification
pathways without somehow adding in the missing nutrients that body needs to heal that broken pathway?"
One of which is Sulfur.
It seems to me that people can mistake and blame a reaction
to a substance/mineral/ nutrient...the reaction isn't an end. Its merely a symptom. It IS the body
telling you that something is wrong, nutrients are missing that are vital for the body to do its job.
The body's ability to properly metabolise nutrients is dependent upon the body having the right
supply of: minerals and vitamins and hormones. So either the body is being given the right
nutrients, but is not able to use them, and/or the nutrient absorption is being blocked, or the nutrients
are lacking inthe diet. Simplified, there are two ways to approach this:
Doing chelation using the various
methods, which can end up easily over loading the body's garbage can (liver/kidneys)
or giving the body the tools (NUTRIENTS/MINERALS) it needs to do its job...a much slower
way...with small amts..and gradually upping the amts...which means as the body absorbs more
of these vital nutrients, it is able to naturally excrete the toxins. Combining this second method
with juicing/or simply putting veggies in a blender... which greatly helps the liver clean it outself out..
as the liver has to digest all solid foods- has a history of being a safe and healthy way to build
up the body's immune system.
Look at it this way: if the body had "had" adequate amts of: Iodine/ Magnesium/ Sulfur/ Selenium/
Zinc/ Calcium and trace minerals, the chances are much lower, that the body's toxic burden would
have ended up in the category of toxic over load (poisoned). Its because most of us had NOT enough of these vital minerals to start with-
that toxicity created so many issues. Dis-ease/ or un health is caused basically from two things: Lack of Nutrition/ Toxic Over Load.
It doesn't matter which one came first..one opens the door to the other.

NOw while not every method works for every person, the one thing that remains
(in my opinion) a standing rule, is this: the body needs the right tools / NUTRIENTS to be healthy.
Leave out one crucial element of those nutrients, can mean the difference between a healthy immune system-
and a struggling stressed out immune system.
*As for the subject of Sulfur? I think we're all gonna be reading alot about this missing nutrient in the days/months
to come. Personally I think its way up there with: Vit D3, Iodine, and Magnesium. (not to say the others are not
important, but these are the ones the body needs large amounts of.)

Wishing all of you a wonderful victory filled New Year!
Lizzie


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:18:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sulfur

> That can only happen if you have a "broken" detox pathway. Garlic
> and onions are some of the healthiest foods on the planet. I can't
> wait to eat them again.

Yes, but I'd guess that MOST of the people suffering from ES have
a broken detox pathway (or two!).

Marc



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--- On Tue, 12/27/11, Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:



My concerns are: that I will not be able to take an antibiotic for any

infection as long as I am exposed to these meters, and how to correct my

sensitivities.

Joyce,

All of the suggestions that were made for boosting your immune system with nutrition, and using Manatose for bladder infections and using alternative natural antibiotics is important.  Especially Spirulina, as that has also been used to reverse radiation poisoning, very important for ES victims.

See Mercola Article:
Grams Daily of This REVERSED Severe Radiation Poisoning in Chernobyl Children
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/11/09/spirulina-reversed-radiation-damage-in-chernobyl-children-in-just-20-days.aspx


But, for people who are having active infections like you, and who are intolerant to antibiotics, I suggest you need to get to a Naturopath or Electrodermaltherapist to diagnose what organisms have proliferated and in what organs.

I am in a similar situation.  I am intolerant to antibiotics and avoid them like the plague.  But, I am constantly getting fungal and bacteria infections, largely because of impaired immune function, and because the microwave radiation and EMF's in my living envrionment and in the city where I live is stimulating these organisms to proliferate.  We all have fungus, parasites and bacteria in our bodies but disruptions in the body's bio-terrain and electrical stability will cause them to proliferate. It is a constant battle for some people who are extremely ES. But I know for a fact that mainstream medicine has nothing for me concerning this - been there, done that too many times to count. 

I am on an intense herbal protocol to battle a serious bacterial, fungal or parasitic infection about once a year, sometimes every six months.   I got swollen glands two months ago.  If I went to see a mainstream doctor, they would have thrown antibiotics at me profilactically.   Instead, I was diagnosed by an alternative practitioner as having mold.  I am now on herbs again to try and get a hold of this fungal infection.  As you know, ntiobiotics would be doing nothing to get rid of a fungal infection. 

I have had bladder infections that were caused by parasites and fungus.  They are not all caused by Bacteria you know. But I know for a fact, if I had gone to a mainstream doctor, and even with a urine test, they would have put me on antibiotics. And this would have done nothing to get rid of these type of organisms causing the bladder infection, but would have made actually the problem worse and would have also worn down my immune system even more. Mannatose may have worked if I stayed on it long enough.   But in the case of certain parasites, they may have just gone and set up shop in some other area of the body.

I am walking on a double edge sword.  I consider Seattle to be the Alternative Medicine capitol of the world.  Bastyr Naturopath College started here, Dr. Klinghardt, Dr. Ralph Golan, Dr. Jonathan Wright world famous Naturopaths, all of whom I have seen, are based here. There are many good Naturopathic Clinics here and Seattle is on the cutting edge of Alternative Medicine. which is why I moved here many years ago to deal with my MCS issues.  And I was doing well until most of the cell towers started going up about 10 years agp.  Now, the radiation and EMF's in Seattle have injured me and are causing most of my present concerns, including the chronic infections.  I am calling myself Stage 5 Electrosensitive. If I move, I will not have access to excellent Alternative care.  If I stay, I will continue to deteriorate and battle infections.

My next move is to try zapping these organisms.  I do not know if I would tolerate Rife Machines.  There are lots of natural protocols to try to rid your body or fungal and bacterial overgrowth, but these protocols take time to stabilize your body.  For those who have an infection now that is causing symptoms, I say avoid antibiotics and as a last resort if you don't know what you have, one thing you could do is take Nutribiotic Tabs 3x day for a month as they are anti-fungal, anti-bacterial.  You will be able to tell within a week if it is doing any good.  Also, take an herbal parasite purge.  But stay on these  protocols for at least 1-2 months.

Disclaimer:  I am not a doctor.  These suggestions are my personal opinions based on personal experience.


C. Johnson
Superdrove@yahoo,com
Wireless Refugee




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Hi C,
You have given excellent info. I am sorry that you are swamped in the nasty radiation rays.
I have two thoughts; you may already be familiar with them. But if not, these may help.
You are right on the money, about the emf's multiplying/ enhancing fungal/parasitc infections.
Are you taking Iodine? The following is from: Iodine Dosages and Treatments – IMVA » Antibiotics





iodine.imva.info/index.php/the-end-of-antibiotics
Though it kills 90 percent of bacteria on the skin within 90 seconds its use as an antibiotic has been ignored. Iodine exhibits activity against bacteria, molds, yeasts, protozoa, and many viruses; indeed, of all antiseptic preparations suitable for direct use on humans and animals and upon tissues, only iodine is capable of killing all classes of pathogens: gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, fungi, yeasts, viruses and protozoa. Most bacteria are killed within 15 to 30 seconds of contact.
You can open the link and read the rest of the article.
My second suggestion: Essential Oils, specifically one called: Melrose. Melrose is a 12 star anti-fungal. That means, in the world of essential oils, this blend packs a powerful punch.
 Melrose Essential Oil - 15 ml
(Item No. 3378)
 www.youngliving.com
I have had very good success using the Melrose, and alternating it with pure Oregano Oil for fungal infections. Melrose is a blend of: Melaleuca, Melaleuca Quinquenervia, Rosemary cineol, and Clove. By combining these essential oils, the power of many natural anti-fungals combine to equal a very powerful medicine. I have found that using Melrose, both by taking drops in diluted juice (ya almost have to in order to get it down), applying this in a diluted form mixed with a carrier oil on the area of concern, rotating this oil with pure organic or wild harvested Oregano Oil (also anti-fungal) AND covering/shielding the area using the Hi performance silver fabric from lessemf.com...has worked where nothing ELSE has!
The two most powerful natural remedies I use in cases of fungal/parasites are Iodine (lots of it) and Melrose. Let me give you two examples. My daughter was exposed (unbeknowst to us- at a friends house, who had a newer cordless phone. The exposure was only 10 min. With a half hour, her throat swelled up like an elephant. I put her in the tub, with a ton of Baking Soda, clay, and Magnesium Chloride oil....she said she felt a bit better...but the throat was still swollen. Out of desperation (and fear!!) I gave her two drops of Lugol's Iodine, under the tongue, and put another few drps right on her throat. (The Lugol's is 5% Iodine. Very strong.) I kid you not, within ten minutes, the SWELLING went down completely. I save the Lugol's for emergencies...we take 2% Iodine every day. Second example: While working at a nursery/greenhouse, my daughter got some orangish colored fungus on her wrist. It became a rash, then nasty looking sores, the only thing I could think of, it looked like leprosy! Within 2 days, it had spread from her wrist to her entire arm. I should mention that there were, not ONE, but TWO cell phone mini towers on the greenhouse property, one was a new DECT cordless tele, right next to that base, was a walkie talkie base. Two mini cell towers! I tried several rememdies...then I realized that the mini towers/bases MULTIPLIED the orange gunk. I gave her high doses of Iodine, started her on the Melrose drops, and applied the Melrose to her arm...rotating that with the Oregano Oil. Then I got her long sleeved shirts, and  covered this entire area with the shielding fabric, and the long sleeves on the shirts covered that...when she was at work.
It took less then 24 hrs to see that this was working. All told, it took 2 weeks for this to completely heal.
LIzzie
 



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--- On Tue, 12/27/11, Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:

My concerns are: that I will not be able to take an antibiotic for any

infection as long as I am exposed to these meters, and how to correct my

sensitivities.

Joyce,

All of the suggestions that were made for boosting your immune system with nutrition, and using Manatose for bladder infections and using alternative natural antibiotics is important.  Especially Spirulina, as that has also been used to reverse radiation poisoning, very important for ES victims.

See Mercola Article:
Grams Daily of This REVERSED Severe Radiation Poisoning in Chernobyl Children
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/11/09/spirulina-reversed-radiation-damage-in-chernobyl-children-in-just-20-days.aspx

But, for people who are having active infections like you, and who are intolerant to antibiotics, I suggest you need to get to a Naturopath or Electrodermaltherapist to diagnose what organisms have proliferated and in what organs.

I am in a similar situation.  I am intolerant to antibiotics and avoid them like the plague.  But, I am constantly getting fungal and bacteria infections, largely because of impaired immune function, and because the microwave radiation and EMF's in my living envrionment and in the city where I live is stimulating these organisms to proliferate.  We all have fungus, parasites and bacteria in our bodies but disruptions in the body's bio-terrain and electrical stability will cause them to proliferate. It is a constant battle for some people who are extremely ES. But I know for a fact that mainstream medicine has nothing for me concerning this - been there, done that too many times to count.  

I am on an intense herbal protocol to battle a serious bacterial, fungal or parasitic infection about once a year, sometimes every six months.   I got swollen glands two months ago.  If I went to see a mainstream doctor, they would have thrown antibiotics at me profilactically.   Instead, I was diagnosed by an alternative practitioner as having mold.  I am now on herbs again to try and get a hold of this fungal infection.  As you know, ntiobiotics would be doing nothing to get rid of a fungal infection.  

I have had bladder infections that were caused by parasites and fungus.  They are not all caused by Bacteria you know. But I know for a fact, if I had gone to a mainstream doctor, and even with a urine test, they would have put me on antibiotics. And this would have done nothing to get rid of these type of organisms causing the bladder infection, but would have made actually the problem worse and would have also worn down my immune system even more. Mannatose may have worked if I stayed on it long enough.   But in the case of certain parasites, they may have just gone and set up shop in some other area of the body.

I am walking on a double edge sword.  I consider Seattle to be the Alternative Medicine capitol of the world.  Bastyr Naturopath College started here, Dr. Klinghardt, Dr. Ralph Golan, Dr. Jonathan Wright world famous Naturopaths, all of whom I have seen, are based here. There are many good Naturopathic Clinics here and Seattle is on the cutting edge of Alternative Medicine. which is why I moved here many years ago to deal with my MCS issues.  And I was doing well until most of the cell towers started going up about 10 years agp.  Now, the radiation and EMF's in Seattle have injured me and are causing most of my present concerns, including the chronic infections.  I am calling myself Stage 5 Electrosensitive. If I move, I will not have access to excellent Alternative care.  If I stay, I will continue to deteriorate and battle infections.

My next move is to try zapping these organisms.  I do not know if I would tolerate Rife Machines.  There are lots of natural protocols to try to rid your body or fungal and bacterial overgrowth, but these protocols take time to stabilize your body.  For those who have an infection now that is causing symptoms, I say avoid antibiotics and as a last resort if you don't know what you have, one thing you could do is take Nutribiotic Tabs 3x day for a month as they are anti-fungal, anti-bacterial.  You will be able to tell within a week if it is doing any good.  Also, take an herbal parasite purge.  But stay on these  protocols for at least 1-2 months.

Disclaimer:  I am not a doctor.  These suggestions are my personal opinions based on personal experience.

C. Johnson
Superdrove@yahoo,com
Wireless Refugee

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