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I'm new to this forum so I don't know if this has been covered before but I'd be interested to know if anyone knows anything about a connection between radiation from computer monitors and skin cancer. A few months ago I was diagnosed as having a basal cell carcinoma on my face. Everything I have read about this type of skin cancer says that it is caused by long term sun exposure and the consultant said that I was unusually young to have this kind of cancer (I'm 41 but have had it since I was 37). As I am fair skinned and have hardly ever sunbathed and have used a sunscreen every day on my face for nearly 20 years, I couldn't understand why I had ended up with skin cancer. I asked the doctor and he helpfully(!) said "well sometimes it just because". However, acquiring a new computer monitor last month reminded me of symptoms I used to get years ago when I worked in offices (I'm now a beauty therapist). For the last 5 years the only monitor I have used has been an old, very small monitor on my home pc which was well away from my face. I changed it a month ago for a bigger one and since then those old symptoms have come back. My face feels like it's burning within seconds of sitting down at the pc. It's only now that I remember I had the same problem when I did office work and also that I had the burning sensation when exposed to fluorescent light. I did a search on the internet but there's very little research been done on the subject due to lack of funding. What there is on the connection between monitors and skin problems seems to have been done by a doctor in Sweden. He said that the reaction on the skin caused by exposure to monitors, known as screen dermatitis, is similar to that of exposure to UV light and although he did not specifically refer to skin cancer, it got me thinking. I had never heard of electrical sensitivity or screen dermatitis until a few days ago and am hoping that someone on this forum might have heard of some useful information. In the meantime, I suppose I'll have to plug the old monitor back in and go back to having eyestrain!!! It's only 12" but is small enough to sit well away from my face on my desk. Another question I have for anyone affected by the same problem is how effective are screen anti-radiation filters? |
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> As I am fair skinned and have hardly
> ever sunbathed and have used a sunscreen every day on my face for > nearly 20 years, I couldn't understand why I had ended up with skin > cancer. Actually, I've read that many kinds of sunscreens cause skin cancer themselves, due to the dangerous chemicals in them. You might have your answer right there. Switching to something sold in a health food store might be a step in the right direction, or even better would be to go without (you should get some direct sun exposure anyway -- it is the way we evolved, and skin cancer was unheard of a century ago before there were sunblocks). > My face feels like it's > burning within seconds of sitting down at the pc. This could be due to a lack of antioxidants in your system, or a buildup of heavy metals (possibly leached from metal dental work over the years), or a lack of essential fatty acids in the diet. There certainly could be other reasons too, such as a low-level viral or fungal infection. > In the meantime, I suppose I'll have to plug the old monitor back in > and go back to having eyestrain!!! It's only 12" but is small enough > to sit well away from my face on my desk. Yes, many of us here have had to experiment with different sizes and types of monitors (flat screen versus tube), experimenting with distance between our face and monitor, and also using various "EMF protection devices". Certainly one of the cheapest and strangest solution that one person found was to place a "D Battery" (not a dead one) sitting straight up on top of the monitor! Other strange solutions included installing a software program on your PC called "Quantum Byte" -- this has a free demo that you can try for 2 weeks at quantumproducts.com . People have reported lessening of this "burning skin" symptom by these and other methods. > Another question I have for anyone affected by the same problem is > how effective are screen anti-radiation filters? Some people report improvements, while others say it doesn't make much difference to their symptoms. The only way to know if it will work for you is to try it. Marc |
i agree with marc on this, a lot of chemical sunscreens have chemicals
in them that actually absorb uv into the skin and then is supposed to neutralise it. I have suffered from severe photosensitivity for several years and the only sunscreen that i will use is by soleo organics from australia. Everything else i apply to my skin makes it burn below is were you can get that sunscreen and im in the belief that we shouldn't be wearing sunscreen everyday to prevent cancer as marc says it seems that a lot of the research done shows that they can cause it, to me its just another money spin based on fear. I think it should be used obviously if you're photosensitive but for me it really doesnt do anything my skin just burns. I have also researched all the crap that they put in cosmetics as well which can cause photo toxic problems to the skin cells and make the skin react to light, its all a mind field, other things i wouldn't apply to my skin are essential oils either. I also get the burning of the skin from puters but unlike so many others mine is visible, i bought a led projector first generation but the burning is still there. I use a 3m anti-radiation screen for a crt monitor it seems to help a bit but i am more into really trying to find a cure rather than avoiding. I can't be out in the sun much at all as my face will just fry. Like others i would suggest looking at internal protocols www.theremustbeabetterway.co.uk/Suppliers/Soleo_Organics_Suncare.htm On 21 Mar 2007, at 17:46, Marc Martin wrote: > > As I am fair skinned and have hardly > > ever sunbathed and have used a sunscreen every day on my face for > > nearly 20 years, I couldn't understand why I had ended up with skin > > cancer. > > Actually, I've read that many kinds of sunscreens cause skin cancer > themselves, due to the dangerous chemicals in them. You might > have your answer right there. Switching to something sold in > a health food store might be a step in the right direction, > or even better would be to go without (you should get some direct > sun exposure anyway -- it is the way we evolved, and skin cancer > was unheard of a century ago before there were sunblocks). > > > My face feels like it's > > burning within seconds of sitting down at the pc. > > This could be due to a lack of antioxidants in your system, or > a buildup of heavy metals (possibly leached from metal dental > work over the years), or a lack of essential fatty acids in > the diet. There certainly could be other reasons too, such > as a low-level viral or fungal infection. > > > In the meantime, I suppose I'll have to plug the old monitor back in > > and go back to having eyestrain!!! It's only 12" but is small enough > > to sit well away from my face on my desk. > > Yes, many of us here have had to experiment with different sizes > and types of monitors (flat screen versus tube), experimenting > with distance between our face and monitor, and also using > various "EMF protection devices". Certainly one of the cheapest > and strangest solution that one person found was to place a "D > Battery" > (not a dead one) sitting straight up on top of the monitor! Other > strange solutions included installing a software program on > your PC called "Quantum Byte" -- this has a free demo that > you can try for 2 weeks at quantumproducts.com . People have > reported lessening of this "burning skin" symptom by these > and other methods. > > > Another question I have for anyone affected by the same problem is > > how effective are screen anti-radiation filters? > > Some people report improvements, while others say it doesn't > make much difference to their symptoms. The only way to > know if it will work for you is to try it. > > Marc > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> www.theremustbeabetterway.co.uk/Suppliers/Soleo_Organics_Suncare.htm
Here is also a product that I have been thinking of trying for my next trip to Mexico or Hawaii (and the article goes into the problems with the ingredients with most sunscreens): http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_sierra_madre_nl.php However, for the most part, I go without sunscreen. In my opinion, the hysteria about the dangers of the sun are misplaced, and people are using way to much sunscreen. Marc |
i agree, the best thing to do is stay out of it when its at its hottest
and if you have to be out for long use something that marc or I have mentioned Im not looking forward to the summer due to my condition. best pete On 21 Mar 2007, at 18:17, Marc Martin wrote: > > www.theremustbeabetterway.co.uk/Suppliers/Soleo_Organics_Suncare.htm > > Here is also a product that I have been thinking of trying for my > next trip to Mexico or Hawaii (and the article goes into the problems > with the ingredients with most sunscreens): > > http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_sierra_madre_nl.php > > However, for the most part, I go without sunscreen. In my opinion, > the hysteria about the dangers of the sun are misplaced, and > people are using way to much sunscreen. > > Marc > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 3/21/2007 6:04:14 PM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: agree with marc on this, a lot of chemical sunscreens have chemicals in them that actually absorb uv into the skin and then is supposed to neutralise it. I have suffered from severe photosensitivity for several years and the only sunscreen that i will use is by soleo organics from australia. Everything else i apply to my skin makes it burn Paul UK - replies Have you checked out the new clarins product a cream that alledgedly protects against emfs, first of its kind in that market ? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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[hidden email] writes: As I am fair skinned and have hardly > ever sunbathed and have used a sunscreen every day on my face for > nearly 20 years, I couldn't understand why I had ended up with skin > cancer. Actually, I've read that many kinds of sunscreens cause skin cancer themselves, due to the dangerous chemicals in them. You might have your answer right there. Switching Paul UK replies - I understand that the mechanism working in favour of not using sunscreen is our bodies natural balancing reaction wherby melanin is produced and causes the skin to change colour, by using sunscreen we interfere with this highly evolved process, which has been protecting us for much longer than sunscreen. Of course rather like us ESSERS we feel uncomfortable around certain emf polluting devices so we move away the same phychological drive should interplay in sunbathing, but so many of us work through the uncomfortable stage to achieve the look, so when vanity overidesthe in built warning mechanisms we run a risky game. The analogy of sunbathing is a good one for essers. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Have you checked out the new clarins product a cream that alledgedly
> protects against emfs, first of its kind in that market ? Are you refering to this spray-mist product, or something else? http://www.islandcosmetics.com/product_detail.asp?sku=4470 Marc |
In a message dated 3/22/2007 4:34:45 AM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: > Have you checked out the new clarins product a cream that alledgedly > protects against emfs, first of its kind in that market ? Are you refering to this spray-mist product, or something else? _http://www.islandcohttp://www.ihttp://www.islahttp://www.i_ (http://www.islandcosmetics.com/product_detail.asp?sku=4470) Marc PAUL REPLIES - NO THATS THE ONE. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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PLEASE CIRCULATE TO YOUR LIST Combating the dangers of wireless technology Dr George Carlo of the Safe Wireless Initiative, Washington was in London, England presenting at Westminster on 21st February 2007 and the DVD of his 90 minute presentation and Q&A session will be available from 1st April. Dr Carlo explained how EMFs and information carrying radio waves upset the body within seconds and just what happens to cells, organs and tissues causing immense damage to our health. He also explained what alternative technologies exist to remove the harmful information carrying radio waves from our environment and what the prognosis is for human health without taking any action. If you would like to order a DVD (approximate running time 90 minutes), please send a cheque for £7.50 sterling payable to Tony Edwards, your full name and mailing address and phone number to: P O Box 49747 London N20 0XR UK Please expect to receive your DVD by 21.4.07 if you reside in UK or by 28.4.07 if you live oversees. you can view a short film of other Dr Carlo footage on Youtube _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GD_BKTWyTY_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GD_BKTWyTY) or read Dr Carlo's recent book "Cell-phones - Invisible Hazards in the Wireless Age. An Insider's Alarming Discoveries about Cancer and Genetic Damage" Caroll & Graf Edition 2001 A division of Avalon publishers group. ISBN: 0-7867 08182 and if you would like to read coverage about Dr Carlo's recent visit to the UK take a look at the following media release prepared by Eileen O'Connor Trustee of the Radiation Research Trust or view their website at:_www.radiationresearch.org_ (http://www.radiationresearch.org/) Combating the dangers of wireless technology - by Dr George Carlo presented in Westminster, London, Dublin and Jersey The UK owes Dr George Carlo a debt of gratitude for agreeing to visit the UK. He has and is still coping with a gruelling schedule, visiting London, Dublin and Jersey and giving back to back interviews with the doctors, Scientists, politicians, the public and the media. Radio 4 "You and Yours" aired a pre-recorded interview with Dr George Carlo and Professor Lawrie Challis: _http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/youandyours/_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/youandyours/) Read the witness reports to the Westminster meeting which are contained within the Buergerwelle website link: MOBILES 'PUT KIDS AT RISK OF AUTISM AND BRAIN TUMOURS' _http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3360329/_ (http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3360329/) Dr George Carlo's Westminster presentation was powerful. He encouraged us to urgently work with medical doctors as people need help. We simply cannot wait for the Government and industry scientists to carry out more research while people suffer with ill health, people need help now while research continues. Fellow RRT trustee Andrew Mitchell MP opened up the Westminster meeting and RRT trustee Dr Ian Gibson MP chaired the meeting. The Attlee Room is the largest room in Westminster and was at full capacity (150) however; sadly and shamefully the meeting was only attended by approximately four MPs, This is a disgrace when you consider how serious this health issue is and knowing how full the MPs post bags are with letters and petitions from members of the public begging them for help! Many people are suffering with EHS, cancer and other debilitating illness which they claim is due to EMF exposure. One lady gave a heart breaking account of her suffering and her daughter's suffering due to a Vodafone mast near her home, she begged someone to help; she said that she took part in the Essex University double blind study and was able to detect that a phone mast frequency was on or off 100%, she said that she has visited Professor Olle Johansson in Sweden, he said she was suffering with EHS and would be looked after if she lived in Sweden, however, sadly he couldn't help due to the fact that he has no funding and could only offer sympathy. She has visited her MP and doctors, sadly her doctor cannot help her as they have no guidelines to follow. Her account of her terrible suffering moved many people to tears. I hope the stone hearted people in the room realise that this problem is real and start putting health before wealth. Professor Lawrie Challis attended the meeting, he represents the MTHR Government research programme; he received many heated questions from the audience, one lady asked him if phone masts are safe and he said he could not. Ingrid Dickenson from HESE-UK asked Professor Lawrie Challis why they haven't reviewed or translated the 1500 German and Russian peer reviewed and published scientific research on EMFs and dangers to health as the research has been done and proved, _http://www.hese-project.org_ (http://www.hese-project.org/) Visit to DUBLIN Read the Irish Independent news report enclosed (see email below) Dr Carlo was on RTE Prime Time (Irish) TV news, view this excellent report. _http://rte.ie/news/primetime/_ (http://rte.ie/news/primetime/) Dr Carlo was also interviewed on the Irish radio along with UK celebrity Jasper Carrott; Dr Mike Repacholi, ex-leader for WHO EMF Project represented the mobile phone operators; I was shocked when Mike Repacholi said school children should be safe to use mobile phones, he continues to refuse to accept the overwhelming evidence. Dr Carlo and Japer Carrott both gave strong and excellent interviews. Dr George Carlo and Dr Gerd Oberfeld from Salzburg both gave excellent presentations to the Irish Doctors. The Irish Doctors invited us to join forces with them. We should encourage all UK doctors to accept this invitation. _www.ideaireland.org/emririshresearch.htm_ (http://www.ideaireland.org/emririshresearch.htm) Jersey Inquiry into Phone masts and health Dr Mike Repacholi recently gave evidence to the scrutiny committee in Jersey as they are considering allowing more phone masts on the Island; Dr John Stather and Dr James Rubin have also given evidence. Barrie Trower, represented our point of view and thankfully Dr Carlo has agreed to visit Jersey today in order to give them his opinion. The UK is now more aware to the dangers associated with EMFs and ill health. Our Irish friends said they are walking taller today after Dr George Carlo and Dr Gerd Oberfeld's visit to Dublin, it was good to finally hear the truth! Eileen O'Connor Trustee - EM Radiation Research Trust _www.radiationresearch.org_ (http://www.radiationresearch.org/) For more information visit: _http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3360329/_ (http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3360329/) IRISH INDEPENDENT, Saturday, 24 February, 2007 (Metro ed. page 16) "MOBILES 'PUT KIDS AT RISK OF AUTISM AND BRAIN TUMOURS'" [by] Breda Heffernan Parents who give their children mobile phones are 'tempting fate' and exposing them to a raft of potential health problems from brain tumors to autism, an international expert has warned. American researcher Dr George Carlo told a conference in Dublin yesterday that he has conducted research which proves that radio waves emitted by mobile phones are causing cellular damage to users. And the scientist says a new study he has conducted, to be published next month, shows a link between electromagnetic radiation from mobile phones and masts and autism. He called on parents not to give children under the age of 12 mobile phones as their DNA and cell membranes are especially vulnerable. Dr Carlo, chairman of the non-profit Science and Public Policy Institute in Washington, was given more than 20m [euro] by the American mobile phone industry in 1993 to investigate possible health risks. After six years of research, he and 200 other scientists from around the globe concluded that manufacturers need to warn the public about the dangers posed by mobiles. Speaking at the Irish Doctors' Environmental Association meeting yesterday, Dr Carlo said his online database set up in 2002 to record incidents from people who believe they have suffered adverse health effects received more than 1 million hits in its first six months and over 30,000 complaints were logged. HEADACHES In early cases, people were linking their symptoms, which ranged from headaches to sleeplessness, to holding the phone up against their head. However, in the past two years, the vast majority of complaints (up to 90%) have come from people who believe their ailments are due to living next to mobile phone masts. There are now 2.4 billion people around the world using mobile phones with this figure set to rise. "The big problem is that the wireless infrastructure we have is leading us to a point of no return. As more people use cell phones and Wi-Fi and as we have absolutely stupid experiments of putting Wi-Fi in schools, background radiation is increasing," warned Dr Carlo. He said that rather than relying on masts and antennas, people should put pressure on Government and industry to eliminate health risks by replacing masts with fibre optic cables. He urged people to perform a simple experiment to see first-hand the dangers of mobile phone radiation. When the mobile has only one bar of signal strength, locate the nearest mast and then line up a number of your friends between the phone and the mast. "The bars will go up and up that is because we are great conductors for radiowaves," said Dr Carlo. LOSS The conference also heard from several dozen members of the public who claim to have suffered hearing loss, irregular heartbeats and sleeplessness from mobile phone masts near their homes. John Cummins, from Cahir, Co Tipperary, said he and his wife Bridget had both suffered hearing loss while their daughter Rebekah suffered a brain seizure at the age of 12. Doctors could not explain their health complaints. "At night we get a humming effect in our eardrums but when we're away from home we don't get it. "In three streets around the mast over 20 people have had cancer in the last four or five years and there have been two cases of MS and Parkinson's." _http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=cellular+damage_ (http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=cellular+damage) _http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=autism_ (http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=autism) _http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=brain+tumors _ (http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=brain+tumors) _http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Carlo_ (http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Carlo) _http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Oberfeld_ (http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Oberfeld) _http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=John+Cummins_ (http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=John+Cummins) Starmail - 24. 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