safer places to be

Hi All: As a step in healing, I am looking for a spot to take a retreat with the lowest possible emf load overall. Any suggestions? Any areas where smartm,eters have not landed and cell towers are not thick?  The closer to california the better.  Many thanks, Chuck

Hey Chuck,

Someone of eSens had emailed us a month or two ago saying that he had purchased some land in a canyon out in Colorado.  I'm sure someone must recall the name of the person.  I can try to look it up.  Hopefully, Marc will remember.  Good luck?

Pam

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      Hi All: As a step in healing, I am looking for a spot to take a retreat with the lowest possible emf load overall. Any suggestions? Any areas where smartm,eters have not landed and cell towers are not thick?  The closer to california the better.  Many thanks, Chuck





   
     

   
   






 










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      Hi
All: As a step in healing, I am looking for a spot to take a retreat
with the lowest possible emf load overall. Any suggestions? Any areas
where smartm,eters have not landed and cell towers are not thick? The
closer to california the better. Many thanks, Chuck


Hi Chuck,

As far as EMF and RH free zones, on March 19, 2012 Amanda Kolter mentioned a retreat in Norland, WA on
the Olympic Penninsula that is free of TV and Wi-Fi. 
http://www.ecologicplace.com/  and Snoshoe mentioned The Timberhouse
Ski Lodge at the base of Winter Park Resort Ski Area in Winter Park,
Colorado, which does not have TV or Wi-Fi.


http://www.timberhouseskilodge.com/menus/index.htm
But these can be pricey and may not be convenient for you.

Beware of California or any major city for that matter!!  I thought Seattle was bad until I went to Southern California.  Anything near or in any town or city in California is a Radiation nightmare.  Los Angeles, San Francisco, and everything within miles of each are prohibitive for cell tower density.  In any given area of Los Angeles, you can count from 200 to 300 cell towers within a 2-4 mile radius.    I thought I would take a break in Ojai, CA up in the hills.  After scouring the cell tower maps I saw a little hotel that appeared to be a safe zone.  I made reservations and lo and behold, it had  a cell tower on the property not shown on the map.  In fact, every single hotel I stayed at in  California that appeared to be clear of cell towers as shown on the maps, turned out to have a cell tower on the building or within a half a block.

Maybe camping and campsites would be better.  I am sure there are safe pockets somewhere in California on the country roads far away from towns, but I couldn't find any in Southern California.

And you can forget that nice Mexican Beach Vacation you were thinking about.  Mexico is a Radiation Nightmare.  I recently visited Mexico.  The poor Mexicans are being FRIED over easy.  The density and intensity of cell towers in any major Mexican city or town is unbelievable.  I took over 100 pictures of cell towers in Mexico City because I was astounded at how they were literally every where, at every monument, every market, every place people gather, all over every residential area, even on the farms out of towns were blanketed with them.  In Mexico, many of the the cell towers are like rattlesnakes, they come in pairs and they are monsters.

Carlos Slim is worth $60 billion - as much as Warren Buffet and he now controls
over 90% of Mexico’s landlines and also owns Telcel, which controls
about 80% of the Mexican cellular phone market; and América Móvil,
Latin America’s biggest wireless provider. There is little industry in Mexico that Slim does not have an interest
in, including a bank, an airline, department stores, restaurants and
music outlets, insurance, auto parts and ceramic tile businesses. He
also constructs roads, water treatment plants and petroleum platforms
for the Mexican government.  As a member of the world's power controlling elite, a Bilderberger, and a contributing engineer of the New World Order, he now has Mexico and Latin America in a radiation stranglehold and the sterility and health casualties are mounting.

Maybe Baja California would be okay.  Be sure to bring a Microwave Meter or Detector with you on the trip to make sure where the safe zones really are. As long as you stay away from towns and cities, you should be okay.  Call a bunch of resorts or lodges that interest you and ask them if they have Wi-Fi or Cell towers nearby.   
 
C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee









 





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Awesome report C.a.b.! 
 
I was suppose to take a cruise to Mexico this past March, but opted out after finding out that cruise ships are like giant microwave ovens now.  eSensers gave me great advice and I was out.  Thanks for this update regarding Cally and Mexico and particularly thanks for outing the culprits down in Mexico.
 
Pam

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Hi
All: As a step in healing, I am looking for a spot to take a retreat
with the lowest possible emf load overall. Any suggestions? Any areas
where smartm,eters have not landed and cell towers are not thick? The
closer to california the better. Many thanks, Chuck

Hi Chuck,

As far as EMF and RH free zones, on March 19, 2012 Amanda Kolter mentioned a retreat in Norland, WA on
the Olympic Penninsula that is free of TV and Wi-Fi. 
http://www.ecologicplace.com/  and Snoshoe mentioned The Timberhouse
Ski Lodge at the base of Winter Park Resort Ski Area in Winter Park,
Colorado, which does not have TV or Wi-Fi.

http://www.timberhouseskilodge.com/menus/index.htm
But these can be pricey and may not be convenient for you.

Beware of California or any major city for that matter!!  I thought Seattle was bad until I went to Southern California.  Anything near or in any town or city in California is a Radiation nightmare.  Los Angeles, San Francisco, and everything within miles of each are prohibitive for cell tower density.  In any given area of Los Angeles, you can count from 200 to 300 cell towers within a 2-4 mile radius.   I thought I would take a break in Ojai, CA up in the hills.  After scouring the cell tower maps I saw a little hotel that appeared to be a safe zone.  I made reservations and lo and behold, it had  a cell tower on the property not shown on the map.  In fact, every single hotel I stayed at in  California that appeared to be clear of cell towers as shown on the maps, turned out to have a cell tower on the building or within a half a block.

Maybe camping and campsites would be better.  I am sure there are safe pockets somewhere in California on the country roads far away from towns, but I couldn't find any in Southern California.

And you can forget that nice Mexican Beach Vacation you were thinking about.  Mexico is a Radiation Nightmare.  I recently visited Mexico.  The poor Mexicans are being FRIED over easy.  The density and intensity of cell towers in any major Mexican city or town is unbelievable.  I took over 100 pictures of cell towers in Mexico City because I was astounded at how they were literally every where, at every monument, every market, every place people gather, all over every residential area, even on the farms out of towns were blanketed with them.  In Mexico, many of the the cell towers are like rattlesnakes, they come in pairs and they are monsters.

Carlos Slim is worth $60 billion - as much as Warren Buffet and he now controls
over 90% of Mexico’s landlines and also owns Telcel, which controls
about 80% of the Mexican cellular phone market; and América Móvil,
Latin America’s biggest wireless provider. There is little industry in Mexico that Slim does not have an interest
in, including a bank, an airline, department stores, restaurants and
music outlets, insurance, auto parts and ceramic tile businesses. He
also constructs roads, water treatment plants and petroleum platforms
for the Mexican government.  As a member of the world's power controlling elite, a Bilderberger, and a contributing engineer of the New World Order, he now has Mexico and Latin America in a radiation stranglehold and the sterility and health casualties are mounting.

Maybe Baja California would be okay.  Be sure to bring a Microwave Meter or Detector with you on the trip to make sure where the safe zones really are. As long as you stay away from towns and cities, you should be okay.  Call a bunch of resorts or lodges that interest you and ask them if they have Wi-Fi or Cell towers nearby.   

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

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Wow. What a thorough job of researching you did, C.a.b.!
Those poor people in Mexico.
I was looking at a place in South America a year ago.
I was astounded to see cell towers on the sides of the mountains!
Right in the area where a group of " environmental think tanks scientists" reside-
brilliant people I might add; who completely missed the boat on cell phone
radiation and towers.
By the way, the name of the guy who has that property in Rockvale, CO,
is Gary Johnson. If memory serves me right, he owns 50 acres? in what is
supposed to a safe zone.
[hidden email]

Blessings,
Lizzie


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      Awesome report C.a.b.!

 

I was suppose to take a cruise to Mexico this past March, but opted out after finding out that cruise ships are like giant microwave ovens now.  eSensers gave me great advice and I was out.  Thanks for this update regarding Cally and Mexico and particularly thanks for outing the culprits down in Mexico.

 

Pam



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Subject: Re: [eSens] safer places to be + Mexico Cell Towers

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Hi

All: As a step in healing, I am looking for a spot to take a retreat

with the lowest possible emf load overall. Any suggestions? Any areas

where smartm,eters have not landed and cell towers are not thick? The

closer to california the better. Many thanks, Chuck



Hi Chuck,



As far as EMF and RH free zones, on March 19, 2012 Amanda Kolter mentioned a retreat in Norland, WA on

the Olympic Penninsula that is free of TV and Wi-Fi.

http://www.ecologicplace.com/  and Snoshoe mentioned The Timberhouse

Ski Lodge at the base of Winter Park Resort Ski Area in Winter Park,

Colorado, which does not have TV or Wi-Fi.



http://www.timberhouseskilodge.com/menus/index.htm

But these can be pricey and may not be convenient for you.



Beware of California or any major city for that matter!!  I thought Seattle was bad until I went to Southern California.  Anything near or in any town or city in California is a Radiation nightmare.  Los Angeles, San Francisco, and everything within miles of each are prohibitive for cell tower density.  In any given area of Los Angeles, you can count from 200 to 300 cell towers within a 2-4 mile radius.   I thought I would take a break in Ojai, CA up in the hills.  After scouring the cell tower maps I saw a little hotel that appeared to be a safe zone.  I made reservations and lo and behold, it had  a cell tower on the property not shown on the map.  In fact, every single hotel I stayed at in  California that appeared to be clear of cell towers as shown on the maps, turned out to have a cell tower on the building or within a half a block.



Maybe camping and campsites would be better.  I am sure there are safe pockets somewhere in California on the country roads far away from towns, but I couldn't find any in Southern California.



And you can forget that nice Mexican Beach Vacation you were thinking about.  Mexico is a Radiation Nightmare.  I recently visited Mexico.  The poor Mexicans are being FRIED over easy.  The density and intensity of cell towers in any major Mexican city or town is unbelievable.  I took over 100 pictures of cell towers in Mexico City because I was astounded at how they were literally every where, at every monument, every market, every place people gather, all over every residential area, even on the farms out of towns were blanketed with them.  In Mexico, many of the the cell towers are like rattlesnakes, they come in pairs and they are monsters.



Carlos Slim is worth $60 billion - as much as Warren Buffet and he now controls

over 90% of Mexico’s landlines and also owns Telcel, which controls

about 80% of the Mexican cellular phone market; and América Móvil,

Latin America’s biggest wireless provider. There is little industry in Mexico that Slim does not have an interest

in, including a bank, an airline, department stores, restaurants and

music outlets, insurance, auto parts and ceramic tile businesses. He

also constructs roads, water treatment plants and petroleum platforms

for the Mexican government.  As a member of the world's power controlling elite, a Bilderberger, and a contributing engineer of the New World Order, he now has Mexico and Latin America in a radiation stranglehold and the sterility and health casualties are mounting.



Maybe Baja California would be okay.  Be sure to bring a Microwave Meter or Detector with you on the trip to make sure where the safe zones really are. As long as you stay away from towns and cities, you should be okay.  Call a bunch of resorts or lodges that interest you and ask them if they have Wi-Fi or Cell towers nearby.    



C. Johnson

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Wireless Refugee



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Hi Chuck,

I've taken refuge in NE WA state near Republic. There are still dead
zones here for cellular, actually in three directions from town. Very
few towers here. Lots of WiFi neighbors now.
http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

Tim found a spot in SW WA state in early April, also another "No
service" zone near Morton. That surprised me since there are so many
more towers west of there, close to the urban areas, the zone must be
quite small, at least compared to the very rural distances here.

Stewart

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> Hi All: As a step in healing, I am looking for a spot to take a retreat with the lowest possible emf load overall. Any suggestions? Any areas where smartm,eters have not landed and cell towers are not thick?  The closer to california the better.  Many thanks, Chuck
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Hi Chuck,

I've got no great suggestions - all places are likely to get
towers/wimax/etc if they don't already have them, unless you want to go to
Green Bank, WV (the national radio quiet zone).  However, a good tool in
finding out general density of towers is antennasearch.com

Best of luck!

Amanda


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This website is trying to list safer places and search tools  http://wirelessmess.org/safe-areas/ It has info on the guy in Colorado. If anyone has other ideas add a comment on the site or send it to [hidden email]


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> Hi All: As a step in healing, I am looking for a spot to take a retreat with the lowest possible emf load overall. Any suggestions? Any areas where smartm,eters have not landed and cell towers are not thick?  The closer to california the better.  Many thanks, Chuck
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