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Marc said:
Of course, the problem these days is that we are exposed to high frequencies from all sorts of sources these days, so cleaning up your power lines will still leave you exposed to high frequencies from cellphone towers, your neighbor's wireless internet transmitters, your neighbor's wireless telephones & cellphones, you local HDTV transmissions, satellite transmissions of DirecTV and XM Radio, etc., etc. So one really needs some form a protection that stays with you wherever you go. This would be nice, to find something that does this job. However, your biggest exposure (except for those right by a cell tower or HV transmission line) is still the RF being broadcast throughout your buildings 24/7 from the wiring. Marc said: BTW, one item I rarely mention (and it seems that nobody else here has tried) is the Earthcalm resonator (Earthcalm.com). This item has a rather unique (for me) property that I really feel like I'm encased in a protective bubble while I'm wearing it. The drawbacks to it is that after wearing it for too long I get nausea, sweatiness, and chest pains (although these are diminished if I put it inside my socks instead of wearing it around my neck). I mention this because it describes itself as grounding you without you actually having to make contact with the Earth. Nausea, sweatiness and chest pains just happen to be signs of a heart attack. I sure would think twice before exposing myself to something that caused these. Does this gizmo create frequencies? What do you think it does that causes you to experience these dire-sounding symptoms? How can something ground you with no contact to earth? Seriously, is this possible, or just nice-sounding PR? Regards, Shivani [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> However, your biggest exposure (except for those right by a cell
> tower or HV transmission line) is still the RF being broadcast > throughout your buildings 24/7 from the wiring. Yes, but that's not the biggest thing impacting my health. I can be in my house all day and not have any problems at all. Sit me in front of a laptop computer, and I have problems very quickly. > Nausea, sweatiness and chest pains just happen to be signs of a > heart attack. I'm sure that they're signs of more than just that. For example, the chest pains seem to eminating from my ribs, not my heart. Also, I get chest pains from all sorts of foods and supplements as well, so it certainly is not unique to this EMF device. Personally, I think that toxins are being liberated into my bloodstream, and I am having an adverse reaction. They say that lead is stored in your bones, and I have had EAV testing that shows that I'm allergic to lead. Could be as simple as that. >How can something ground you with no contact to earth? Seriously, >is this possible, or just nice-sounding PR? Who knows, but this pendant has some good EMF protection qualities that cannot be ignored. The problem is that I cannot tolerate wearing it all day every day, so it is of little practical use. Marc |
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I also have some chest pains and I think this happens due to muscle contractions due to problems in my brain which is due to mercury toxicity. I have chest pains on my left side only. I think one side of my brain(possibly the right side) is damaged and it causes contracted muscles on the left side.Actually my whole left side is contracted(tight). I can feel that when I try to relax or meditate. Nil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] response to Marc > > > However, your biggest exposure (except for those right by a cell > > tower or HV transmission line) is still the RF being broadcast > > throughout your buildings 24/7 from the wiring. > > Yes, but that's not the biggest thing impacting my health. I can > be in my house all day and not have any problems at all. Sit > me in front of a laptop computer, and I have problems very quickly. > > > Nausea, sweatiness and chest pains just happen to be signs of a > > heart attack. > > I'm sure that they're signs of more than just that. For example, > the chest pains seem to eminating from my ribs, not my heart. > Also, I get chest pains from all sorts of foods and supplements > |
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> I also have some chest pains and I think this happens due to muscle
> contractions I should point out that the things which give me chest pains also cause a simultaneous pain the bottom of my left foot ( "foot attack?" :-) ) I've gotten this from seaweed, "kombucha" beverage, chia seeds, electrolyte drinks, amino acid powders, and mercury chelators -- all things which are supposed to be healthy and provoke detoxification. So the fact that a couple EMF protection devices do this as well puts them in good company. The devices which have done this include the Earthcalm resonator, the Harmonic Protector, a Sacred Geometry Medallion, and the Personal Rejuvenizer pendant. If I wasn't so toxic, I'd probably benefit from all of these. Marc |
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In reply to this post by yildiz-2
Chalk up one more list member who experiences muscle contractions in the chest/abdominal area, apparently triggered by mercury mobilization due to EMF exposure. My husband was having these "attacks" about once a week back around October -- before we realized he was ES and started being vigilant about avoidance and shielding. The attacks would last about half an hour or more, and resembled what I imagine an epileptic seizure is, more than a heart attack, i.e. spams that convulse the entire body repeatedly rather than shooting pains in the chest. We came to think of the attacks as his body's reaction to a buildup of EM energy in his body (from working at his computer or being in a store full of fluorescent lights). When the attack was over, he would be worn out but with no other lingering effect, as if the excess energy had been released and his body stabilized. Anyway these attacks are much rarer now, especially since we've been supplementing nutritionally. Can't say whether I'd describe this as a "detox" reaction exactly, and we have not been able to link it to particular supplements, EMF protection devices or known detox agents. In any case, as many of you have pointed out before, there are surely gentler ways to detox than this. :-) Cara --- In [hidden email], "yildiz" <yildiz22@g...> wrote: > Marc, > > I also have some chest pains and I think this happens due to muscle > contractions due to problems in my brain which is due to mercury toxicity. I > have chest pains on my left side only. I think one side of my brain (possibly > the right side) is damaged and it causes contracted muscles on the left > side.Actually my whole left side is contracted(tight). I can feel that when > I try to relax or meditate. > > Nil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:12 PM > Subject: Re: [eSens] response to Marc > > > > > > > However, your biggest exposure (except for those right by a cell > > > tower or HV transmission line) is still the RF being broadcast > > > throughout your buildings 24/7 from the wiring. > > > > Yes, but that's not the biggest thing impacting my health. I can > > be in my house all day and not have any problems at all. Sit > > me in front of a laptop computer, and I have problems very > > > > > Nausea, sweatiness and chest pains just happen to be signs of a > > > heart attack. > > > > I'm sure that they're signs of more than just that. For example, > > the chest pains seem to eminating from my ribs, not my heart. > > Also, I get chest pains from all sorts of foods and supplements > > |
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> The attacks would last about half an hour or more, and
> resembled what I imagine an epileptic seizure is, more than a heart > attack, i.e. spams that convulse the entire body That's something different that what I've experienced. Mine is more of a long-lasting, low-level pain, sometimes coupled with anxiety/panic attacks. In a book I have on copper toxicity, they list these very symptoms as signs of copper dumping. Marc |
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"The attacks would last about half an hour or more, and
resembled what I imagine an epileptic seizure is, more than a heart attack, i.e. spasms that convulse the entire body repeatedly rather than shooting pains in the chest. " Cara I am having these type of attacks when I try to meditate and when I am practicing strong release of deeply buried emotions..I can not meditate because of this problem.Does he feel a strong pressure at the part of the head where neck joins the skull?My head moves uncontrollably backwards and I feel great pressure at that part. My whole body starts shaking. Convulsions are more at the left side of my body.I think this is happening due to a damage done at my brain by mercury.I don't know and wonder which part of my brain is damaged. This is different than the chest pain I have. My chest pain is like what Mark describes. Thanks. Nil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: response to Marc > > > Chalk up one more list member who experiences muscle contractions in > the chest/abdominal area, apparently triggered by mercury > mobilization due to EMF exposure. My husband was having > these "attacks" about once a week back around October -- before we > realized he was ES and started being vigilant about avoidance and > shielding. The attacks would last about half an hour or more, and > resembled what I imagine an epileptic seizure is, more than a heart > attack, i.e. spams that convulse the entire body repeatedly rather > than shooting pains in the chest. We came to think of the attacks as > his body's reaction to a buildup of EM energy in his body (from > working at his computer or being in a store full of fluorescent > lights). When the attack was over, he would be worn out but with no > other lingering effect, as if the excess energy had been released and > his body stabilized. Anyway these attacks are much rarer now, > especially since we've been supplementing nutritionally. > > Can't say whether I'd describe this as a "detox" reaction exactly, > and we have not been able to link it to particular supplements, EMF > protection devices or known detox agents. In any case, as many of you > have pointed out before, there are surely gentler ways to detox than > this. :-) > > Cara > > --- In [hidden email], "yildiz" <yildiz22@g...> wrote: > > Marc, > > > > I also have some chest pains and I think this happens due to muscle > > contractions due to problems in my brain which is due to mercury > toxicity. I > > have chest pains on my left side only. I think one side of my brain > (possibly > > the right side) is damaged and it causes contracted muscles on the > left > > side.Actually my whole left side is contracted(tight). I can feel > that when > > I try to relax or meditate. > > > > Nil > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [eSens] response to Marc > > > > > > > > > > > However, your biggest exposure (except for those right by a cell > > > > tower or HV transmission line) is still the RF being broadcast > > > > throughout your buildings 24/7 from the wiring. > > > > > > Yes, but that's not the biggest thing impacting my health. I can > > > be in my house all day and not have any problems at all. Sit > > > me in front of a laptop computer, and I have problems very > quickly. > > > > > > > Nausea, sweatiness and chest pains just happen to be signs of a > > > > heart attack. > > > > > > I'm sure that they're signs of more than just that. For example, > > > the chest pains seem to eminating from my ribs, not my heart. > > > Also, I get chest pains from all sorts of foods and supplements > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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Hi Nil, I don't think my husband's "attacks" have ever happened when he was meditating. No pressure where you describe (at the base of the neck) either. - Cara --- In [hidden email], "yildiz" <yildiz22@g...> wrote: > "The attacks would last about half an hour or more, and > resembled what I imagine an epileptic seizure is, more than a heart > attack, i.e. spasms that convulse the entire body repeatedly rather > than shooting pains in the chest. " > > Cara > > I am having these type of attacks when I try to meditate and when I am > practicing strong release of deeply buried emotions..I can not meditate > because of this problem.Does he feel a strong pressure at the part of the > head where neck joins the skull?My head moves uncontrollably backwards and I > feel great pressure at that part. My whole body starts shaking. Convulsions > are more at the left side of my body.I think this is happening due to a > damage done at my brain by mercury.I don't know and wonder which part of my > brain is damaged. > > This is different than the chest pain I have. My chest pain is like what > Mark describes. > Thanks. > Nil > |
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