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SArjuna
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> Emil wrote:
> This is a very interesting story. I would like to understand it better.
> When you said:
> >check it with a
> > gaussmeter while the conduit was still attached to the breaker box vs.
> > after
> > he detached it.    The circuit was off in both instances, of course.
>
> In the "before" condition, do you mean that the wire was disconnected but
> the conduit remained, or do you mean the wire and the conduit were both
> still connected?
>      
> Shivani replies:
This was a conduit that had been used to electrify heating registers,
which we no longer use. (Talk about a broadcasting system for electrical
pollution! The fins on those are highly efficient at broadcsting RF as well as
heat.) We had tried pulling the wire from the conduit first, to see what effect
that would have. None. So we decided to get rid of the conduit itself, as
it was no longer being used. So at the point I was describing, there was no
longer any wire present, but the metal of the conduit was still touching the
metal of the breaker box.

> Emil wrote:
> Also, where along the circuit where you making measurments? Did you use a
> gaussmeter or a clamp around ammeter?
>
> Shivani replies:
> I was using a gauss meter, and standing about 10 feet from the breaker
box.
As soon as the metal of the conduit was no longer touching the breaker
box, the gauss reading really shot up. (Sorry, I may have notes someplace,
but don't recall the numbers.)
Current was being induced onto the conduit from other hot conduits above
and below it where it was still strapped to the wall between them. When
there was still the contact to the breaker box, that apparently allowed some
grounding which was lost when the contact was lost.
Electricity behaves in interesting ways, to say the least.  

Regards,
Shivami

     
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Emil at Less EMF Inc
HI Shivani,

Thank you for this information. Electricity does indeed behave in ways that
sometimes seem counter-intuitive.

from your story, it is possible that there is another explanation for your
findings.

At 10 feet from the breaker box, your gaussmeter will pick up fields from
many sources. When the conduit was touching the breaker box, it was grounded
and may have been conducting current to ground through the box. (A dangerous
and incorrect wiring situation to be sure. This could have been confirmed
with a clamp around ammeter on the conduit.) When it was disconnected, this
current found a different path to ground... possibly a path closer to the
gaussmeter. Hence the higher reading.

Emil

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>
> Emil wrote:
> This is a very interesting story. I would like to understand it better.
> When you said:
> >check it with a
> > gaussmeter while the conduit was still attached to the breaker box vs.
> > after
> > he detached it. The circuit was off in both instances, of course.
>
> In the "before" condition, do you mean that the wire was disconnected but
> the conduit remained, or do you mean the wire and the conduit were both
> still connected?
>
> Shivani replies:
This was a conduit that had been used to electrify heating registers,
which we no longer use. (Talk about a broadcasting system for electrical
pollution! The fins on those are highly efficient at broadcsting RF as
well as
heat.) We had tried pulling the wire from the conduit first, to see what
effect
that would have. None. So we decided to get rid of the conduit itself,
as
it was no longer being used. So at the point I was describing, there was
no
longer any wire present, but the metal of the conduit was still touching the
metal of the breaker box.

> Emil wrote:
> Also, where along the circuit where you making measurments? Did you use a
> gaussmeter or a clamp around ammeter?
>
> Shivani replies:
> I was using a gauss meter, and standing about 10 feet from the
breaker
box.
As soon as the metal of the conduit was no longer touching the breaker
box, the gauss reading really shot up. (Sorry, I may have notes someplace,
but don't recall the numbers.)
Current was being induced onto the conduit from other hot conduits
above
and below it where it was still strapped to the wall between them. When
there was still the contact to the breaker box, that apparently allowed some
grounding which was lost when the contact was lost.
Electricity behaves in interesting ways, to say the least.

Regards,
Shivami


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