re - my coherent space device report
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Hi Charles, Marc, & Vinny,
That was an accurate reply of my circumstances Vinny, thank you! For Charles, just so you know my health background for your own research; 1. the normal healthy people who do not have any reactions at all. Yet!!!! 2. the sensitive people with a health history, who may become electrosensible by exposures of more than 200 uW/m2 3. the already electrosensible people, who may react at 1 uW/m2. If we look at the category 2 type of persons, we see, that those are not completely healthy. They even may have hidden sickening agents in their body, lurking to come out. Such persons may have a benefit of the machines Vinny is promoting. I sort of fall into your catergory 2. I do have a health history dating back to when I was a child, but I have made it by business to work on this for many years. When I moved into the home I was ( and still am) a vegetarian eating only organic/ biodynamic produce much of it raw, don't drink or smoke. I have been ingesting regularly plant derived minerals, enzymes and Grainfields products (made in Aust) which are fermented grains that come in liquids and powders. So my health status was actually not too bad prior to the symptoms appearing, especially compared to general society diet wise. I do put it down to the continued and constant exposure to the powerlines and that I have always had to be very vigilant in what I put into my body because it does not tolerate junk very well at all. That is, it is a little sensitive. Cheers to all, keep up the good fight, Helen - Australia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Helo Helen,
with health history I also mean: operations in the past, wrong medicines or too much or too long, blood type O, Eppstein Barr virus, Lyme Disease, heavy-metals in body (amalgam tooth fillings, food and water contain heavy-metals, even the air contain them), near death experience, accidents, etc. Perhaps have a hereditary taint. That all brings down the immune system, and then one is vulnerable to elektrosmog. And the elektrosmog may come creeping to you by the electrical wiring in the house, stray currents coming from outside, or the static magnetic fields from metals parts in your bed, or mattress! Just to give an idea. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Murphy" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 01:39 Subject: [eSens] re - my coherent space device report > Hi Charles, Marc, & Vinny, > > That was an accurate reply of my circumstances Vinny, thank you! > > For Charles, just so you know my health background for your own research; > > > 1. the normal healthy people who do not have any reactions at all. Yet!!!! > 2. the sensitive people with a health history, who may become > electrosensible by exposures of more than 200 uW/m2 > 3. the already electrosensible people, who may react at 1 uW/m2. > > If we look at the category 2 type of persons, we see, that those are not > completely healthy. > They even may have hidden sickening agents in their body, lurking to come > out. > > Such persons may have a benefit of the machines Vinny is promoting. > > I sort of fall into your catergory 2. I do have a health history dating > back > to when I was a child, > but I have made it by business to work on this for many years. When I > moved > into the > home I was ( and still am) a vegetarian eating only organic/ biodynamic > produce much of it raw, > don't drink or smoke. I have been ingesting regularly > plant derived minerals, enzymes and Grainfields products (made in Aust) > which are fermented > grains that come in liquids and powders. So my health status was actually > not too bad prior to the > symptoms appearing, especially compared to general society diet wise. I do > put it down > to the continued and constant exposure to the powerlines and that I have > always had to be very > vigilant in what I put into my body because it does not tolerate junk very > well at all. That is, > it is a little sensitive. > > Cheers to all, keep up the good fight, > Helen - Australia > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > |
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I have given up milk for nearly 1.5 months, could be coincidence but notice
that I am less sensitive at the moment, of course I am also doing the avoidance measures so this will gradually improve matters, That said if I spend to long under fluorescent lights I still get red sore spots/lesions on my scalp and temples. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I too agree that no one should drink pasteurized milk. It is poison.
The bad bacteria, hormones, antibiotics, etc. cause numerous illnesses. On the other hand, organic RAW milk has been proven to cure asthma and host of other diseases. http://www.mercola.com/2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm http://www.realmilk.com/ Andrew On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:21 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > I have given up milk for nearly 1.5 months, could be coincidence but > notice > that I am less sensitive at the moment, of course I am also doing the > avoidance measures so this will gradually improve matters, That said > if I spend to > long under fluorescent lights I still get red sore spots/lesions on my > scalp > and temples. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > |
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Animal fat is used in the maintenance and repair of every cell in the humanbody, notably, for us, in the insulation (myelin sheath) of the nervous system. It is an *essential* nutrient. William --- In [hidden email], "Helen Murphy" <helenmurphybb@...> wrote: > I was ( and still am) a vegetarian eating only organic/ biodynamic > produce much of it raw, > don't drink or smoke. I have been ingesting regularly > plant derived minerals, enzymes and Grainfields products (made in Aust) > which are fermented > grains that come in liquids and powders. |
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Although if Paul is sensitive to milk and dairy products per se, then he
should avoid them. Sue finds her general sensitivities are worsened by any kind of dairy produce - organic source or not. Sometimes these effects seem to develop later in life or be concealed. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andrew McAfee Sent: 02 October 2006 12:46 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] milk I too agree that no one should drink pasteurized milk. It is poison. The bad bacteria, hormones, antibiotics, etc. cause numerous illnesses. On the other hand, organic RAW milk has been proven to cure asthma and host of other diseases. http://www.mercola. <http://www.mercola.com/2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm> com/2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm http://www.realmilk <http://www.realmilk.com/> .com/ Andrew On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:21 AM, paulpjc@aol. <mailto:paulpjc%40aol.com> com wrote: > I have given up milk for nearly 1.5 months, could be coincidence but > notice > that I am less sensitive at the moment, of course I am also doing the > avoidance measures so this will gradually improve matters, That said > if I spend to > long under fluorescent lights I still get red sore spots/lesions on my > scalp > and temples. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Although if Paul is sensitive to milk and dairy products per se, then he
> should avoid them. Sue finds her general sensitivities are worsened by > any kind of dairy produce - organic source or not. It seems that merely being "organic" is not good enough with dairy products. "Grass fed" seems to be critical, as does "raw". I get bad reactions to commercial dairy products. Also organic pasturized dairy products. But I do just fine on the raw, grass-fed, organic dairy products that I have shipped to me from California. But I still have to treat this as a "supplement", and watch my "dosage" -- typically 5-8 ounces per day works the best, as I tend to suffer from a lack of oxygen if I go beyond that (I get that symptom with a lot of fatty acid supplements) Marc |
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Hi Marc:
Yes, many people seem to react badly to heated (i.e., pasteurized) milk and dairy products, but a number of folks -- myself included -- do well with raw milk and related dairy products, particularly if it is from largely-pasture-fed (aka "grass-fed") cows. However, and this seems to be largely dependent upon genetics, many people do not do well on even raw dairy; this is likely because the practice of ingesting milk in significant quantities only entered the chronological timeline of human evolution relatively recently, in perhaps the past 10,000 years or less, and thus there has been insufficient time for the gene pool to fully catch up in adapting to utilizing this food properly. Interestingly, I useta alwasy react badly to pasturized dairy, but now that I regularly ingest EM (beneficial microbes which produce antioxidants and other energy substances), my body can tolerate modes amounts of pasteurized dairy just fine. with care, --Vinny At 12:56 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote: > > Although if Paul is sensitive to milk and dairy products per se, then he > > should avoid them. Sue finds her general sensitivities are worsened by > > any kind of dairy produce - organic source or not. > >It seems that merely being "organic" is not good enough >with dairy products. "Grass fed" seems to be critical, >as does "raw". > >I get bad reactions to commercial dairy products. Also >organic pasturized dairy products. But I do just fine >on the raw, grass-fed, organic dairy products that I have >shipped to me from California. But I still have to >treat this as a "supplement", and watch my "dosage" -- >typically 5-8 ounces per day works the best, as I >tend to suffer from a lack of oxygen if I go beyond >that (I get that symptom with a lot of fatty acid >supplements) > >Marc > Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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I can understand if a person is not made for milk product ingestion. In
most cases I have found the person has not had truly raw AND organic milk products but rather regular pasteurized milk products from a disease ridden factory farm. No wonder people are told to stay off milk products with all the crap that is in non-organic milk products. my 2 cents, Andrew On Oct 2, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Ian Kemp wrote: > Although if Paul is sensitive to milk and dairy products per se, then > he > should avoid them. Sue finds her general sensitivities are worsened > by any > kind of dairy produce - organic source or not. Sometimes these > effects seem > to develop later in life or be concealed. > Ian > > _____ > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Andrew McAfee > Sent: 02 October 2006 12:46 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [eSens] milk > > > > I too agree that no one should drink pasteurized milk. It is poison. > The bad bacteria, hormones, antibiotics, etc. cause numerous illnesses. > On the other hand, organic RAW milk has been proven to cure asthma and > host of other diseases. > http://www.mercola. > <http://www.mercola.com/2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm> > com/2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm > http://www.realmilk <http://www.realmilk.com/> .com/ > Andrew > > On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:21 AM, paulpjc@aol. <mailto:paulpjc%40aol.com> com > wrote: > >> I have given up milk for nearly 1.5 months, could be coincidence but >> notice >> that I am less sensitive at the moment, of course I am also doing the >> avoidance measures so this will gradually improve matters, That said >> if I spend to >> long under fluorescent lights I still get red sore spots/lesions on my >> scalp >> and temples. >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > |
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