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Judy Marie Taylor
Thanks Beau,
I feel 'relieved' when it rains, like a heavy weight is taken off my
shoulders.

Could well be the cell towers, there are four within my line of sight
and several others just over the hill.

I want to move away but don't know where or what kind of house would be
electric free. Even if you find a house with noelectricity, it doesn't
mean that there isn't a ground current running straight through it.

Any ideas anyone?

Judy

Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:34:31 -0000
From: "bbin37" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Questions

Rainfall almost always makes me feel better, especially heavy rains.
I've noticed the energy in an area feels more "friendly" when it's
raining.

With respect to wireless and satellite transmissions, rain provides a
diminishment of signal due to signal scattering and absorption. It's
called "rain fade" or "rain attenuation" in the telecom sector, but I
call it wonderful! Anything that reduces the local microwave
pollution brings relief for me. Your recent heavy rain probably
dropped the wireless signal strengths down around you and could be one
reason you felt better.

Beau

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Re: rains,

Marc Martin
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> I want to move away but don't know where or what kind of house would be
> electric free. Even if you find a house with noelectricity, it doesn't
> mean that there isn't a ground current running straight through it.
>
> Any ideas anyone?

Have you had any luck with supplements, dietary changes, or EMF
protection
devices? I think I'd look at these before thinking of moving.

Marc

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Moving

quaixemen
In reply to this post by Judy Marie Taylor
If I had that many cell towers next to me I might consider moving
myself. If I were in an apartment I'd be out of there tommorrow.
But it would be very hard for me financially to move as the price of
houses these days would probably prevent that. Every time I go to my
home town I start longing to move back there and even look at houses
and talk to real estate people. I don't go back there as much any
more because I keep wanting to move each time I go there. But I
would defininitely bring my stetzer meter and be plugging it into the
wall sockets and be looking for a house that can give me a reading of
10 or under. I'd also bring my trifield meter and be checking things
out. They were putting up new large electric poles only a block away
from my mothers house and they were giving off massive magnetic field
for the houses right next to them. I'd be looking for a house that
has a garage and has the electric box on the outside wall of the
garage and not located on a wall that is next to a living area. I've
got an electrician coming out next week who is going to install two
outlets on the two incoming hot lines next to the breaker box so I
can install 6 or 8 stetzer filters right where the electricity comes
in and before it is divided into the many lines that go throughout
the house. The room where I sleep in has the electricity shut off
and that seems to help a lot. If I were way out in the country I'd
see myself benefiting from a non-electric house. But there is just
so much electricity in the atmosphere that living in a non-electric
house isn't what it used to be. I'm hoping to find ways to shield
myself from microwaves in the future.


--- In [hidden email], Judy Taylor <taylorjm@t...> wrote:
> Thanks Beau,
> I feel 'relieved' when it rains, like a heavy weight is taken off
my
> shoulders.
>
> Could well be the cell towers, there are four within my line of
sight
> and several others just over the hill.
>
> I want to move away but don't know where or what kind of house
would be
> electric free. Even if you find a house with noelectricity, it
doesn't

> mean that there isn't a ground current running straight through it.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>
> Judy
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:34:31 -0000
> From: "bbin37" <netfarer2@y...>
> Subject: Re: Questions
>
> Rainfall almost always makes me feel better, especially heavy
rains.
> I've noticed the energy in an area feels more "friendly" when it's
> raining.
>
> With respect to wireless and satellite transmissions, rain provides
a
> diminishment of signal due to signal scattering and absorption.
It's
> called "rain fade" or "rain attenuation" in the telecom sector, but
I
> call it wonderful! Anything that reduces the local microwave
> pollution brings relief for me. Your recent heavy rain probably
> dropped the wireless signal strengths down around you and could be
one
> reason you felt better.
>
> Beau

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Re: Moving

canaryyuk
Hi, i've just joined the esens group from the UK. I seem to be a
slightly unusual esser in that my ES is brought on most markedly by
sources of RF-EMFs from cellphones, masts, etc... I can still
function with the electricity on, though have started to switch it
off at night, which has helped. I have also seen a big improvement
from earthing various objects that i sit/sleep on.

I'm replying to this message because I live in a flat, and was
curious as to why you said "if i were in an apartment i'd be out of
there tomorrow'. Is that because in a flat, even if u switch your
own leccy off you still get the effects of the leccy from other ppls
flats? I have a terrible problem with DECT phones coming through
from other ppl and for that reason am trying to move. But i'm not a
homeowner or anything, and in the UK they don't just hand out houses
to people!! It makes me very sad (and scared) to think that i will
have to move away to some really remote and/or grotty area if i want
to get permanent relief. Although i've known i've got a problem with
RF-EMFs for about 3 years, the realisaton i have ES is very new, and
its very scary, becuase it seems to be such a monumentally lonely and
boring illness. :[


--- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
> If I had that many cell towers next to me I might consider moving
> myself. If I were in an apartment I'd be out of there tommorrow.
> But it would be very hard for me financially to move as the price
of
> houses these days would probably prevent that. Every time I go to
my
> home town I start longing to move back there and even look at
houses
> and talk to real estate people. I don't go back there as much any
> more because I keep wanting to move each time I go there. But I
> would defininitely bring my stetzer meter and be plugging it into
the
> wall sockets and be looking for a house that can give me a reading
of
> 10 or under. I'd also bring my trifield meter and be checking
things
> out. They were putting up new large electric poles only a block
away
> from my mothers house and they were giving off massive magnetic
field
> for the houses right next to them. I'd be looking for a house that
> has a garage and has the electric box on the outside wall of the
> garage and not located on a wall that is next to a living area.
I've
> got an electrician coming out next week who is going to install two
> outlets on the two incoming hot lines next to the breaker box so I
> can install 6 or 8 stetzer filters right where the electricity
comes

> in and before it is divided into the many lines that go throughout
> the house. The room where I sleep in has the electricity shut off
> and that seems to help a lot. If I were way out in the country I'd
> see myself benefiting from a non-electric house. But there is just
> so much electricity in the atmosphere that living in a non-electric
> house isn't what it used to be. I'm hoping to find ways to shield
> myself from microwaves in the future.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Judy Taylor <taylorjm@t...> wrote:
> > Thanks Beau,
> > I feel 'relieved' when it rains, like a heavy weight is taken off
> my
> > shoulders.
> >
> > Could well be the cell towers, there are four within my line of
> sight
> > and several others just over the hill.
> >
> > I want to move away but don't know where or what kind of house
> would be
> > electric free. Even if you find a house with noelectricity, it
> doesn't
> > mean that there isn't a ground current running straight through
it.

> >
> > Any ideas anyone?
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:34:31 -0000
> > From: "bbin37" <netfarer2@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Questions
> >
> > Rainfall almost always makes me feel better, especially heavy
> rains.
> > I've noticed the energy in an area feels more "friendly" when it's
> > raining.
> >
> > With respect to wireless and satellite transmissions, rain
provides
> a
> > diminishment of signal due to signal scattering and absorption.
> It's
> > called "rain fade" or "rain attenuation" in the telecom sector,
but
> I
> > call it wonderful! Anything that reduces the local microwave
> > pollution brings relief for me. Your recent heavy rain probably
> > dropped the wireless signal strengths down around you and could
be
> one
> > reason you felt better.
> >
> > Beau

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Re: Moving

Andrew McAfee
You're not alone and it hasn't been boring for me. Quite the contrary.
My wife and I just got our current house under contract to sell this
weekend. This is the second time-second house in 3 years that we have
sold to move to another location to seek refuge from towers.
I have learned much in those few years.
There is a gift in all of this for me and I hope you will find
something empowering for you in your health challenge.
Andrew



On Sep 18, 2005, at 8:18 PM, canaryyuk wrote:

> Hi, i've just joined the esens group from the UK. I seem to be a
> slightly unusual esser in that my ES is brought on most markedly by
> sources of RF-EMFs from cellphones, masts, etc... I can still
> function with the electricity on, though have started to switch it
> off at night, which has helped. I have also seen a big improvement
> from earthing various objects that i sit/sleep on.
>
> I'm replying to this message because I live in a flat, and was
> curious as to why you said "if i were in an apartment i'd be out of
> there tomorrow'. Is that because in a flat, even if u switch your
> own leccy off you still get the effects of the leccy from other ppls
> flats? I have a terrible problem with DECT phones coming through
> from other ppl and for that reason am trying to move. But i'm not a
> homeowner or anything, and in the UK they don't just hand out houses
> to people!! It makes me very sad (and scared) to think that i will
> have to move away to some really remote and/or grotty area if i want
> to get permanent relief. Although i've known i've got a problem with
> RF-EMFs for about 3 years, the realisaton i have ES is very new, and
> its very scary, becuase it seems to be such a monumentally lonely and
> boring illness. :[
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
>> If I had that many cell towers next to me I might consider moving
>> myself. If I were in an apartment I'd be out of there tommorrow.
>> But it would be very hard for me financially to move as the price
> of
>> houses these days would probably prevent that. Every time I go to
> my
>> home town I start longing to move back there and even look at
> houses
>> and talk to real estate people. I don't go back there as much any
>> more because I keep wanting to move each time I go there. But I
>> would defininitely bring my stetzer meter and be plugging it into
> the
>> wall sockets and be looking for a house that can give me a reading
> of
>> 10 or under. I'd also bring my trifield meter and be checking
> things
>> out. They were putting up new large electric poles only a block
> away
>> from my mothers house and they were giving off massive magnetic
> field
>> for the houses right next to them. I'd be looking for a house that
>> has a garage and has the electric box on the outside wall of the
>> garage and not located on a wall that is next to a living area.
> I've
>> got an electrician coming out next week who is going to install two
>> outlets on the two incoming hot lines next to the breaker box so I
>> can install 6 or 8 stetzer filters right where the electricity
> comes
>> in and before it is divided into the many lines that go throughout
>> the house. The room where I sleep in has the electricity shut off
>> and that seems to help a lot. If I were way out in the country I'd
>> see myself benefiting from a non-electric house. But there is just
>> so much electricity in the atmosphere that living in a non-electric
>> house isn't what it used to be. I'm hoping to find ways to shield
>> myself from microwaves in the future.
>>
>>
>> --- In [hidden email], Judy Taylor <taylorjm@t...> wrote:
>>> Thanks Beau,
>>> I feel 'relieved' when it rains, like a heavy weight is taken off
>> my
>>> shoulders.
>>>
>>> Could well be the cell towers, there are four within my line of
>> sight
>>> and several others just over the hill.
>>>
>>> I want to move away but don't know where or what kind of house
>> would be
>>> electric free. Even if you find a house with noelectricity, it
>> doesn't
>>> mean that there isn't a ground current running straight through
> it.
>>>
>>> Any ideas anyone?
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:34:31 -0000
>>> From: "bbin37" <netfarer2@y...>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions
>>>
>>> Rainfall almost always makes me feel better, especially heavy
>> rains.
>>> I've noticed the energy in an area feels more "friendly" when it's
>>> raining.
>>>
>>> With respect to wireless and satellite transmissions, rain
> provides
>> a
>>> diminishment of signal due to signal scattering and absorption.
>> It's
>>> called "rain fade" or "rain attenuation" in the telecom sector,
> but
>> I
>>> call it wonderful! Anything that reduces the local microwave
>>> pollution brings relief for me. Your recent heavy rain probably
>>> dropped the wireless signal strengths down around you and could
> be
>> one
>>> reason you felt better.
>>>
>>> Beau
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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quaixemen
In reply to this post by canaryyuk
I live here in the US. If I were living in an apartment I could very
easily move. However, I own my home and if I wanted to buy another
it would be too expensive unless I wanted to buy something really
crappy. If I were living next to towers and were in an apartment it
would be much easier to move. They keep talking about a housing
bubble here and how it will collapse but the prices of house just
keep going through the roof.


--- In [hidden email], "canaryyuk" <canary65@t...> wrote:

> Hi, i've just joined the esens group from the UK. I seem to be a
> slightly unusual esser in that my ES is brought on most markedly by
> sources of RF-EMFs from cellphones, masts, etc... I can still
> function with the electricity on, though have started to switch it
> off at night, which has helped. I have also seen a big improvement
> from earthing various objects that i sit/sleep on.
>
> I'm replying to this message because I live in a flat, and was
> curious as to why you said "if i were in an apartment i'd be out of
> there tomorrow'. Is that because in a flat, even if u switch your
> own leccy off you still get the effects of the leccy from other
ppls
> flats? I have a terrible problem with DECT phones coming through
> from other ppl and for that reason am trying to move. But i'm not
a
> homeowner or anything, and in the UK they don't just hand out
houses
> to people!! It makes me very sad (and scared) to think that i will
> have to move away to some really remote and/or grotty area if i
want
> to get permanent relief. Although i've known i've got a problem
with
> RF-EMFs for about 3 years, the realisaton i have ES is very new,
and
> its very scary, becuase it seems to be such a monumentally lonely
and
> boring illness. :[
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
> > If I had that many cell towers next to me I might consider moving
> > myself. If I were in an apartment I'd be out of there
tommorrow.
> > But it would be very hard for me financially to move as the price
> of
> > houses these days would probably prevent that. Every time I go
to
> my
> > home town I start longing to move back there and even look at
> houses
> > and talk to real estate people. I don't go back there as much
any
> > more because I keep wanting to move each time I go there. But I
> > would defininitely bring my stetzer meter and be plugging it into
> the
> > wall sockets and be looking for a house that can give me a
reading
> of
> > 10 or under. I'd also bring my trifield meter and be checking
> things
> > out. They were putting up new large electric poles only a block
> away
> > from my mothers house and they were giving off massive magnetic
> field
> > for the houses right next to them. I'd be looking for a house
that
> > has a garage and has the electric box on the outside wall of the
> > garage and not located on a wall that is next to a living area.
> I've
> > got an electrician coming out next week who is going to install
two
> > outlets on the two incoming hot lines next to the breaker box so
I
> > can install 6 or 8 stetzer filters right where the electricity
> comes
> > in and before it is divided into the many lines that go
throughout
> > the house. The room where I sleep in has the electricity shut
off
> > and that seems to help a lot. If I were way out in the country
I'd
> > see myself benefiting from a non-electric house. But there is
just
> > so much electricity in the atmosphere that living in a non-
electric
> > house isn't what it used to be. I'm hoping to find ways to
shield
> > myself from microwaves in the future.
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Judy Taylor <taylorjm@t...> wrote:
> > > Thanks Beau,
> > > I feel 'relieved' when it rains, like a heavy weight is taken
off

> > my
> > > shoulders.
> > >
> > > Could well be the cell towers, there are four within my line of
> > sight
> > > and several others just over the hill.
> > >
> > > I want to move away but don't know where or what kind of house
> > would be
> > > electric free. Even if you find a house with noelectricity, it
> > doesn't
> > > mean that there isn't a ground current running straight through
> it.
> > >
> > > Any ideas anyone?
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:34:31 -0000
> > > From: "bbin37" <netfarer2@y...>
> > > Subject: Re: Questions
> > >
> > > Rainfall almost always makes me feel better, especially heavy
> > rains.
> > > I've noticed the energy in an area feels more "friendly" when
it's
> > > raining.
> > >
> > > With respect to wireless and satellite transmissions, rain
> provides
> > a
> > > diminishment of signal due to signal scattering and
absorption.

> > It's
> > > called "rain fade" or "rain attenuation" in the telecom sector,
> but
> > I
> > > call it wonderful! Anything that reduces the local microwave
> > > pollution brings relief for me. Your recent heavy rain probably
> > > dropped the wireless signal strengths down around you and could
> be
> > one
> > > reason you felt better.
> > >
> > > Beau

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Re: Moving

canaryyuk
thank you andrew for your warm and encouraging response! I hope you
find some lasting peace in your new home.

And thank you too quaixemen for clearing up the apartment query!!
Whenever i move into a new flat i always check for external masts,
but unfortunately it is impossible in flats to get away from the
multitude of much more powerful INTERNAL masts!!




--- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
> I live here in the US. If I were living in an apartment I could
very
> easily move. However, I own my home and if I wanted to buy another
> it would be too expensive unless I wanted to buy something really
> crappy. If I were living next to towers and were in an apartment
it
> would be much easier to move. They keep talking about a housing
> bubble here and how it will collapse but the prices of house just
> keep going through the roof.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "canaryyuk" <canary65@t...> wrote:
> > Hi, i've just joined the esens group from the UK. I seem to be a
> > slightly unusual esser in that my ES is brought on most markedly
by
> > sources of RF-EMFs from cellphones, masts, etc... I can still
> > function with the electricity on, though have started to switch
it
> > off at night, which has helped. I have also seen a big
improvement
> > from earthing various objects that i sit/sleep on.
> >
> > I'm replying to this message because I live in a flat, and was
> > curious as to why you said "if i were in an apartment i'd be out
of
> > there tomorrow'. Is that because in a flat, even if u switch
your
> > own leccy off you still get the effects of the leccy from other
> ppls
> > flats? I have a terrible problem with DECT phones coming through
> > from other ppl and for that reason am trying to move. But i'm
not
> a
> > homeowner or anything, and in the UK they don't just hand out
> houses
> > to people!! It makes me very sad (and scared) to think that i
will

> > have to move away to some really remote and/or grotty area if i
> want
> > to get permanent relief. Although i've known i've got a problem
> with
> > RF-EMFs for about 3 years, the realisaton i have ES is very new,
> and
> > its very scary, becuase it seems to be such a monumentally lonely
> and
> > boring illness. :[
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
> > > If I had that many cell towers next to me I might consider
moving
> > > myself. If I were in an apartment I'd be out of there
> tommorrow.
> > > But it would be very hard for me financially to move as the
price
> > of
> > > houses these days would probably prevent that. Every time I go
> to
> > my
> > > home town I start longing to move back there and even look at
> > houses
> > > and talk to real estate people. I don't go back there as much
> any
> > > more because I keep wanting to move each time I go there. But
I
> > > would defininitely bring my stetzer meter and be plugging it
into
> > the
> > > wall sockets and be looking for a house that can give me a
> reading
> > of
> > > 10 or under. I'd also bring my trifield meter and be checking
> > things
> > > out. They were putting up new large electric poles only a
block
> > away
> > > from my mothers house and they were giving off massive magnetic
> > field
> > > for the houses right next to them. I'd be looking for a house
> that
> > > has a garage and has the electric box on the outside wall of
the
> > > garage and not located on a wall that is next to a living
area.
> > I've
> > > got an electrician coming out next week who is going to install
> two
> > > outlets on the two incoming hot lines next to the breaker box
so

> I
> > > can install 6 or 8 stetzer filters right where the electricity
> > comes
> > > in and before it is divided into the many lines that go
> throughout
> > > the house. The room where I sleep in has the electricity shut
> off
> > > and that seems to help a lot. If I were way out in the country
> I'd
> > > see myself benefiting from a non-electric house. But there is
> just
> > > so much electricity in the atmosphere that living in a non-
> electric
> > > house isn't what it used to be. I'm hoping to find ways to
> shield
> > > myself from microwaves in the future.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Judy Taylor <taylorjm@t...> wrote:
> > > > Thanks Beau,
> > > > I feel 'relieved' when it rains, like a heavy weight is taken
> off
> > > my
> > > > shoulders.
> > > >
> > > > Could well be the cell towers, there are four within my line
of
> > > sight
> > > > and several others just over the hill.
> > > >
> > > > I want to move away but don't know where or what kind of
house
> > > would be
> > > > electric free. Even if you find a house with noelectricity,
it
> > > doesn't
> > > > mean that there isn't a ground current running straight
through

> > it.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas anyone?
> > > >
> > > > Judy
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:34:31 -0000
> > > > From: "bbin37" <netfarer2@y...>
> > > > Subject: Re: Questions
> > > >
> > > > Rainfall almost always makes me feel better, especially heavy
> > > rains.
> > > > I've noticed the energy in an area feels more "friendly" when
> it's
> > > > raining.
> > > >
> > > > With respect to wireless and satellite transmissions, rain
> > provides
> > > a
> > > > diminishment of signal due to signal scattering and
> absorption.
> > > It's
> > > > called "rain fade" or "rain attenuation" in the telecom
sector,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > call it wonderful! Anything that reduces the local microwave
> > > > pollution brings relief for me. Your recent heavy rain
probably
> > > > dropped the wireless signal strengths down around you and
could
> > be
> > > one
> > > > reason you felt better.
> > > >
> > > > Beau