"Scalar Wave Chamber" - experience and questions

I have read lots of the posts here and have seen a few references to "scalar
waves" but not to using scalar waves to treat ES, or specifically to the "Energy
Enhancement System" described on this website: http://hhfe.net. I apologize if
I've missed something, but just in case this is new information I thought I'd share
it. My husband's recent experience with this "scalar wave chamber" was so
striking and puzzling to us that we really want to understand it better, and any
insight this group can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Four months ago, we had not yet realized my husband was ES, and were
desperate for a way to manage his severe, chronic pain. Over the years we had
tried all sorts of prescription drugs, supplements, sleep clinics, pain clinics,
hypnosis, acupuncture - both needles and electric, herbs, etc. We knew my
husband had chronic fatigue, chronic pain, severe sleep problems, chemical
sensitivities, digestive problems -- but could find no satisfying
diagnosis/explanation for his health problems and no real relief. At that
particular time, the pain was the most urgent issue for us, and when an
open-minded MD we knew recommended that we try using a "scalar wave
chamber" for pain management purposes, we felt we had nothing to lose. We
were also told that the chamber could enhance energy and mysteriously address
a range of health issues, but the person who owned the chamber and allowed us
to use it was not a scientist and did not pretend to understand how it worked.

Over the course of 6 weeks, my husband spent ten two-hour sessions in this
chamber, sitting quietly and trying to meditate while surrounded by eight
computers programmed, we were told, to generate "scalar waves" at him. For
whatever reason, my husband felt significantly better when we left the chamber.
I felt very little effect (am not ES), but my husband's pain was reduced, and his
energy level seemed improved also. The effect seemed to last for at least 24
hours, until the next session. Over the next 6 weeks, using this chamber, we saw
my husband undergo what we could only describe as a full remission of all his
symptoms. His energy, pain, sleep, brain fog and other health problems all but
vanished. He was operating at almost full functionality. It was too dramatic of a
change to be coincidental; my husband had not functioned at that level for years.
He was, for all intents and purposes, well.

When the 6 week period was up, we signed on for another ten two-hour sessions
in the scalar chamber. (The sessions were not inexpensive but we could not
afford NOT to pursue this further.) During this 2nd round of sessions, we were
never able to achieve the same results we had the first time. We had been
experimenting with the scalar chamber's computer settings (not knowing much
about them -- only what we were told, that different settings would be more or
less beneficial for different people). We tried one setting that had disastrous
effects, and were never able to regain the ground we lost. My husband
deteriorated again, almost to the point where he had been before we started
using the chamber.

It was shortly after this that we realized my husband was ES. One of the clues
came from a casual comment about one of the scalar wave chamber's side
effects -- that it happens to "cancel out" EMFs in its immediate vicinity.

If we understood how this "scalar wave chamber" works enough to replicate its
beneficial effects reliably -- without setting off its negative effects -- I would
find a way to raise the $25,000 it costs to purchase one. The benefits were
truly that dramatic. But we don't understand it and we can't afford to gamble so
much on something about which we know next to nothing. We're not engineers
and we are only starting to learn about ES. Some of you have mentioned "scalar
waves" but in a context that suggests they are harmful to electrically sensitive
people. If so, how does that fit with our experience -- that apparently scalar
waves can have either greatly beneficial or greatly harmful effects, depending
on the precise "frequency"? (Is the "scalar chamber" maybe inaccurately
named?)

By the way, my husband's experience in the scalar chamber is not unlike the
effect some of you have described from using certain EMF protection devices,
such as the Springlife Polarizer or the Earthcalm pendant. He said it was like an
invisible pressure had been lifted from him, and the air was sweeter to breathe;
it felt like a safer place. Several times we went from the chamber straight into a
high-EMF environment (store with lots of fluorescent lights) and saw the
immediate reversal of all benefits. I've ordered a Springlife Polarizer for my
husband and will report what he experiences.

Thanks for any feedback or insight you can offer.

Cara

> I have read lots of the posts here and have seen a few references to "scalar
> waves" but not to using scalar waves to treat ES, or specifically to the "Energy
> Enhancement System" described on this website: http://hhfe.net. I apologize if
> I've missed something

I don't think you missed anything -- I've never heard of this before,
although I see that there is one located in my area.

I found this on their website:

"For nearly 12 years, Sandra Rose Michael has been developing
the technology that is capable of emulating the energy transmitted
such as found in hands on healing."

So, has your husband ever tried "hands on healing"? I've tried
Reiki before, and I certainly noticed it, although I never really
found it practical for countering hours in front of a computer.
Some of the EMF protection devices sold certainly produce a similar
sort of energy -- the Springlife polarizers sure seem to, and
are more practical for going to stores, using the computer, etc.

> When the 6 week period was up, we signed on for another ten two-hour sessions
> in the scalar chamber. (The sessions were not inexpensive but we could not
> afford NOT to pursue this further.) During this 2nd round of sessions, we were
> never able to achieve the same results we had the first time.

Hmmm, so this was with the same settings? And it no longer worked?
I've found a similar sort of thing to happen with many types of
therapies -- they work at first, and you seem to have found a cure,
then after some time, they don't seem to work, and you're back to
where you started. This is why I hesitate to believe a lot of
testimonials on websites, because you really cannot judge a product
with only a few days experience. Only after weeks/months/years can
you tell if something is really helpful.

As for the term "scalar waves", I'm not really comfortable applying
that term to one item vs. another. It could be that *all* EMF
protection devices generate such waves, but only a few advertise
that fact. I think the Teslar watch advertises that they generate
scalar waves, although I never had any reaction to this watch.

Also, I wouldn't spend $25,000 on something I wasn't sure would
help. There are certainly lots of things which cost less than
$300 that I'd try first -- and many of these things are portable,
so you can take them with you and use them all day.

> By the way, my husband's experience in the scalar chamber is not unlike the
> effect some of you have described from using certain EMF protection devices,
> such as the Springlife Polarizer or the Earthcalm pendant. He said it was like an
> invisible pressure had been lifted from him, and the air was sweeter to breathe;

You might want to also try using Quantum Products stuff at some
point. Your husband's reaction to this chamber sounds similar
to what I recall after buying a couple power strips and plugging
them in where my computer and television/stereo is located.

Marc

Thanks for your feedback, Marc.

> So, has your husband ever tried "hands on healing"?

My husband has not tried Reiki or any other "hands-on healing" yet, partly
because we initially resisted such "non-scientific" methods, and now mainly
because we don't yet know of a good practitioner in our area. (If anyone on this
list has had good experiences with a Reiki practitioner in the SF Bay Area please
let me know.) We're also very interested in seeing what effect the Springlife
Polarizer has for us.

> Hmmm, so this was with the same settings? And it no longer worked?

Not exactly. In the second set of sessions, we used most of the same settings
but not all. We were experimenting. We'd had such excellent results for the first
6 weeks and we didn't imagine something so beneficial could also be equally
damaging -- we assumed whatever we tried would only help, but perhaps in a
different way. Obviously we were wrong. Anyway, after several "bad" sessions
using these different settings my husband never recovered. We went back to
the original settings that had helped him, but we never achieved the same good
results as in the first set of sessions.

If anyone on this list has the opportunity to experience several hours in a "scalar
wave chamber" (two hours is what is recommended to see a real effect) I would
really like to hear about it. The gentleman who allowed us to use his chamber has
since moved out of town, otherwise my husband and I would certainly go back
(knowing what we know now about ES) and take some EMF readings in that room,
and try to find out more about frequencies and settings.

Cara

As far as energetic healing goes, I have done both Reiki and learned
hands on healing at the Barbara Brennan School. I recommend seeking out
a Brennan graduate from the following website.
http://www.barbarabrennan.com/bbsh/introduction/find_a_healer.html
I did one year at the school and got a lot out of it.
I would be happy to tell you more off line.
Andrew

On Jan 1, 2005, at 7:53 PM, carazzz wrote:

>(If anyone on this list has had good experiences with a
>Reiki practitioner in the SF Bay Area

I don't think finding a good Reiki practioner is nearly
as difficult as finding a good doctor. :-) Reiki is
pretty easy to learn. As for finding someone, if you've
got health food stores in the area, you could probably
go to the bulletin board and find someone advertising
it there.

I had my first Reiki experience when I didn't even
ask for it! It was at the end of a massage, and my
practitioner just did some Reiki on me for a few minutes,
and this eliminated an adverse reaction that I had been
having to an EMF protection device. The therapist
wasn't a Reiki master or anything -- just level one.

I then went to a "Reiki Master" (level 3), and had
several hour-long treatments. I can't say that it
cured anything, but it was interesting nonetheless.
I decided it would be cheaper and more convenient in
the longrun to learn how to do Reiki on myself, so
I took a level one course from her.

After this, I did Reiki on myself everyday for
several weeks, and discovered that yes, you CAN
get too much Reiki (in spite of what they claim),
as I was detoxing so fast that my organs of elimination
couldn't handle it. As a result, I got a nasty flu
with fever, and also a bladder infection. So
I learned to only use Reiki a little.

Months later, I discovered the Springlife Polarizers,
and the energy I felt coming off these things reminded
me of my initial experiences with Reiki. I was finding
that it was easy to overuse these things as well, so
I just stopped doing the Reiki at all, and only use
it for "emergencies" now.

There is also another form of hands on healing that
I've had experience with called "Reconnective Healing".
This is also interesting, although again not some magic
cure for ES. You can learn to do this simply by
reading the book "The Reconnection" by Eric Pearl, however
I'd still recommend going to a practioner one time so that
you know what the energy is supposed to feel like.

Marc

What puzzles me the most is the notion that the effect of hands-on healing can
be replicated mechanically. It guess it's easier for me to understand it in terms
of computer-generated energy fields canceling out opposing (harmful) EMFs,
thereby providing a shielding effect and a safe zone in which your body can heal
itself -- even though this may be quibbling. But to my mind the principle of
healing via Reiki-computer is just like what you said about the Quantum Byte,
Marc -- it's counter-intuitive.

Of course, I'm not one to argue with results, so perhaps my limited
understanding of the mechanics of energy healing isn't relevant right now. Here's
my summary of what we've tried so far:

1. "Scalar Wave Chamber/Energy Enhancement System" - dramatic positive
results at specific settings or frequencies. Full remission of all symptoms for
over one month. Disappointing in that we could not replicate positive results in
the second month; suspect this is due to uninformed experimentation with
settings/frequencies. Unfortunately, not possible to investigate further.
2. Personal Grounding Devices - good results with "sleep shield" (grounded
mattress cover) and grounded wrist strap from Earthtether.com. Able to
tolerate high-EMF home environment; improved sleep; lower general pain level.
However, grounding effect does not eliminate all symptoms (fatigue, brain fog)
and is not sufficient to comfortably tolerate computer workstation. Am
investigating further grounding/shielding options here.
3. Reducing general EMF exposure (e.g. turning off circuit breakers at night,
removing clock radios, lamps around bed etc.) - Noticeably improves sleep
quality, lowers pain level, etc. When possible, during the day we also turn off
specific electrical circuits if we don't need them.
4. "Electrosmog Corrector" from LessEMF - no noticeable effect. We have had it
for about a month now.
5. Shielded clothing (socks, gloves) from LessEMF - some protective effect when
used at computer workstation. I.e., if my husband merely touches his G4
Powerbook with his bare hands he feels instantly sick and exhausted. With the
shielded gloves he is able to briefly handle his laptop to move it, etc.

In the coming months we plan to try many of the suggestions posted on this list:
EMF protection devices (Springlife Polarizer and Quantum Powerstrip already
ordered), supplements, liver cleansing, Reiki, etc. There's so much information
here that I think we'll be busy investigating for a while.

Cara

Hello, Cara,
it is true, the Electrosmog Corrector from LessEMF, does not neutralize
e-smog. I tested this with electroacupuncture. What it does, it creates a scalar
wave of about 8 Hertz, which has a quite strong positve effect on the
acupuncture system, probably because this frequency is the Schumann wave frequency, the
resonance of the earth. And this positive effect reaches out at least about15
m even within a house.

Now, try one thing to modify these scalar waves a little bit. Fix to the
Electrosmog Corrector a salt crystal from Himalayan salt and try again. I tell you
this, because I have seen that lamps made from Himalayan salt crystal when
switched on have an e-smog neutralizing effect around them for about 2 meters
and also neutralizes the e-smog you can detect in an outlet near the one, where
the salt lamp is plugged in. But be aware, if you are strong enough elec
trosensitive, you may not feel a difference, like with the use of other e-smog
devices.

Dietrich Grün


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Dietrich, I'm up for an experiment but please clarify:

1. By Himalayan salt crystal, do you mean one of the large "Himalayan crystal
salt stones" available at this site: http://www.americanbluegreen.com for $30?
2. How does one "affix" such a crystal to the Electrosmog Corrector? Do you
just set them side by side, or do they have to be touching, and if so, what
adhesive should I use to do this (that will not impair the results of the
experiment)?
3. What is the theory behind this experiment? If you have observed that the
crystal reduces EMFs, why not use it independently of the Electrosmog
Corrector? Do you think the combination will *magnify* the protective effect of
each device (that they will work better together than they do alone), and if so,
can you say more about how/why?

Thanks.

Cara

--- In [hidden email], Gruendg@a... wrote:
> Hello, Cara,
> it is true, the Electrosmog Corrector from LessEMF, does not neutralize
> e-smog. I tested this with electroacupuncture. What it does, it creates a
scalar
> wave of about 8 Hertz, which has a quite strong positve effect on the
> acupuncture system, probably because this frequency is the Schumann wave
frequency, the
> resonance of the earth. And this positive effect reaches out at least about 15
> m even within a house.
>
> Now, try one thing to modify these scalar waves a little bit. Fix to the
> Electrosmog Corrector a salt crystal from Himalayan salt and try again. Itell
you
> this, because I have seen that lamps made from Himalayan salt crystal when
> switched on have an e-smog neutralizing effect around them for about 2
meters
> and also neutralizes the e-smog you can detect in an outlet near the one,
where
> the salt lamp is plugged in. But be aware, if you are strong enough elec
> trosensitive, you may not feel a difference, like with the use of other e-smog
> devices.
>
> Dietrich Grün
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Dietrich, I'm up for an experiment but please clarify:

1. By Himalayan salt crystal, do you mean one of the large "Himalayan crystal
salt stones" available at this site: http://www.americanbluegreen.com for $30?
2. How does one "affix" such a crystal to the Electrosmog Corrector? Do you
just set them side by side, or do they have to be touching, and if so, what
adhesive should I use to do this (that will not impair the results of the
experiment)?
3. What is the theory behind this experiment? If you have observed that the
crystal reduces EMFs, why not use it independently of the Electrosmog
Corrector? Do you think the combination will *magnify* the protective effect of
each device (that they will work better together than they do alone), and if so,
can you say more about how/why?

Thanks.

Cara

--- In [hidden email], Gruendg@a... wrote:
> Hello, Cara,
> it is true, the Electrosmog Corrector from LessEMF, does not neutralize
> e-smog. I tested this with electroacupuncture. What it does, it creates a
scalar
> wave of about 8 Hertz, which has a quite strong positve effect on the
> acupuncture system, probably because this frequency is the Schumann wave
frequency, the
> resonance of the earth. And this positive effect reaches out at least about 15
> m even within a house.
>
> Now, try one thing to modify these scalar waves a little bit. Fix to the
> Electrosmog Corrector a salt crystal from Himalayan salt and try again. Itell
you
> this, because I have seen that lamps made from Himalayan salt crystal when
> switched on have an e-smog neutralizing effect around them for about 2
meters
> and also neutralizes the e-smog you can detect in an outlet near the one,
where
> the salt lamp is plugged in. But be aware, if you are strong enough elec
> trosensitive, you may not feel a difference, like with the use of other e-smog
> devices.
>
> Dietrich Grün
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> 1. By Himalayan salt crystal, do you mean one of the large "Himalayan
> crystal
> salt stones" available at this site: http://www.americanbluegreen.com for
> $30?

I thought he meant the salt lamps -- a big chunk of salt crystal
with a light inside. I tried one of these once while I was
experimenting with different ways to purify the air (they
are marketed as a source of natural negative ions). However,
when I placed it next to my computer, I noticed that I almost
immediately became very agitated. Some other EMF protection
devices have agitated me in the past, and in all cases I
stopped using anything that caused such a reaction.

Here is are example sites which sells these:

http://www.natural-salt-lamps.com/
http://www.innovapacific.com/

Also, if you've got a Whole Foods Market nearby, you
might want to check and see if they sell these.

Marc
Marc

--- In [hidden email], "carazzz" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
> My husband has not tried Reiki or any other "hands-on healing" yet,
> partly because we initially resisted such "non-scientific" methods,
> and now mainly because we don't yet know of a good practitioner in
> our area. (If anyone on this list has had good experiences with a
> Reiki practitioner in the SF Bay Area please let me know.) We're
> also very interested in seeing what effect the Springlife
> Polarizer has for us.

Hi Cara,

There is a energy healer named Marja West who works in SF and who has
worked with the Bioenergy Balancing Center in Palo Alto for many
years. I had a session with Marja which definitely had effects but
nothing lasting. Her web site appears to be down, but Marja states
her work "...is a blend of pranic healing, reiki, channeling, chakra
and auric field assessments, soul retrieval, and energy management
with Bioenergy Balancing." She's calls it 'Absolute Balanced
Mastery'. All of this might sound quite 'lofty' but she was
recommended by a friend who is also an energy worker. Marja's phone
is 415.563.9904.

I've had many energetic treatments by various practitioners, including
one I attribute triggering my ES. Some were temporarily restorative
but none have been curative. However, all of the sessions were done
before I had my mercury amalgams removed. I think getting the toxic
metals out of my system will allow these modalities to be more
beneficial and lasting in light of the experience of Marc, Glenn, and
others on the list.

> If anyone on this list has the opportunity to experience several
> hours in a "scalar wave chamber" (two hours is what is recommended
> to see a real effect) I would really like to hear about it. The
> gentleman who allowed us to use his chamber has since moved out of
> town, otherwise my husband and I would certainly go back (knowing
> what we know now about ES) and take some EMF readings in that room,
> and try to find out more about frequencies and settings.

The term "scalar wave" has also been used in the context of active EM
field cancellation where a device emits EM waves of strength and
frequency equal to EM waves in the local vicinity but shifted in space
by half a wavelength. The meeting of the ambient and emitted fields
would then 'cancel' each other, creating what some have termed a
standing scalar wave. From what I read in your earlier post about the
"scalar wave chamber" cancelling out EM fields in its vicinity, it may
be operating in this sense of scalar wave.

If this is the case, then the device is exposing you to classical EM
fields during the treatment. If so, then your husband's first
sessions were done with what are termed ameliorating frequencies.
These are EM frequencies that relieve ES symptoms, and in some cases
have provided a cure.

There is a clinic in Texas, the Environmental Health Center - Dallas
(www.ehcd.com), that does testing for ES where you could find out
these frequencies. I've visited the clinic and can relate my
experience there in detail off list if you want. There is also a
doctor near Los Angeles who is also experienced with ES.

Dr Gunnar Heuser, NeuroMed and Neuro Tox Associates Medical Group;
Assistant Clinical Professorof Medicine at U.C.L.A. School of
Medicine.
E-mail : [hidden email]
17366 Sunset Boulevard #101B, Pacific Palisades, CA 90272

I've also tried homeopathy under the care of three of the most
experienced homeopaths in the SF area, two of them are MDs. Though
almost all the homeopathic remedies they tried with me had strong
effect, none were curative. Homeopathy is a science and an art and
could be of benefit to your husband. I'm adding my validation to it
here for you in case you're considering it. For Frans, I'll let you
know that they also tried placebo with me (without my knowledge
beforehand) to test for psychosomatic influence. I had no reaction to
the placebo though I was certainly anxious because of the impact
earlier remedies had and was primed for a possible psychosomatic rxn.

-Beau

--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
>
> What puzzles me the most is the notion that the effect of hands-on
> healing can be replicated mechanically.

A lot of what I've read, and personally felt during treatments, points
out that energetic healers emit a strong magnetic-type field component
in their energy. The activity of the enzyme Tripsin is strongly
increased by the presence of DC magnetic fields and an experiment
showed a healer's energy had the equivalent effect on Tripsin of a
20,000 Gauss magnet. Another experiment showed water exposed
temporarily to a magnet had a ~20% reduction in surface tension;
similar results were found with water exposed to a healer's energy.
(A reduction in surface tension in water allows greater permeability.
In our bodies that would increase the movement of fluid and any
solutes in it, giving a 'cleansing effect'.) It has also been
measured that the energy emitted from the hands of Qigong (aka Chi
Kung) masters has a strong infrared (heat) component and that their
palm temperatures can have an increase of ~5 degrees C (~9 degrees F)
over the ambient environment. (See William Tiller's "Science and
Human Transformation for references. Tiller is a prof. emeritus in
materials science at Stanford.)

> I.e., if my husband merely touches his G4 Powerbook with his bare
> hands he feels instantly sick and exhausted.

Cara, do you folks have an EM meter? Putting your hands over a laptop
is the same as putting it over a extremely high frequency EM emitter
since the motherboard and all the components are just under the
keyboard. The hands are one of the body's major entry/exit points for
energy and placing them over an active laptop can cause a very strong
reaction. I'd suggest getting a external keyboard so you can at least
avoid this.

-Beau

Yes, Beau, we have a trifield meter and a body voltage meter. As soon
as we started taking EMF readings at home the laptop jumped out like
it was a neon display, of course. We hooked up an external keyboard
immediately. This helps some, but not enough. We're now trying/about
to try other suggestions from the people on this list.

Cara

--- In [hidden email], "Beau" <netfarer2@y...> wrote:

> > I.e., if my husband merely touches his G4 Powerbook with his bare
> > hands he feels instantly sick and exhausted.
>
> Cara, do you folks have an EM meter? Putting your hands over a
laptop
> is the same as putting it over a extremely high frequency EM emitter
> since the motherboard and all the components are just under the
> keyboard. The hands are one of the body's major entry/exit points
for
> energy and placing them over an active laptop can cause a very
strong
> reaction. I'd suggest getting a external keyboard so you can at
least
> avoid this.
>
> -Beau