possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good.  As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area.  I know no one out there.  Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure.  Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone?  Are there good web pages for jobs in that area?  I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs.  I have experience in retail and bakery.  I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments.  I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere.  Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter

Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/ sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
Lizzie
 



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone


 



Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter




     

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Ya I might have to head out there myself eventually to escape these antennas and lightsquared.
a friend told me it rains a lot there.
 
There is some more observatory's in NM you might want to check out as well. Magdelena NM
 
LOni

--- On Sun, 10/2/11, Glitter <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Glitter <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:14 PM


 



Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter








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Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie?  I didn't find it to be that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM


 




Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/ sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
Lizzie


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter



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I wonder if you just buy some of those torso shielders say that lessemf has. Maybe layer a couple of them so you have good blockage. Might be more comfortable and work better.  Loni


--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "Glitter" <windfeather118@...> wrote:
>
> Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!
>
> -Glitter
>








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Yes, my daughter used to feel the burning and all the other nightmare symptoms...she is especially sensitive to: wifi/ cordless phones/cell phones/ antennas/towers/ipods, etc.  *And she can feel if there is stray current in the ground wherever we are. The silver fabric of course, does not help with that problem, but it does help tremendously with the wireless nasties.
She has been wearing the high performance silver fabric from lessemf for the past 2 years. I make T-shirts and boxers, scarf and a cap that goes under a hat. She says it feels "much quieter" under this fabric. We tried the ready made boxers they sell, thinner fabric, similiar but my daughter says no where near as blocking as the high performance silver.
She wears a large scarf over her head and neck area if we go  to high exposure areas (shopping, ect) and does well. Note: the fabric is only part of the healing protocol. Thyroid/adrenal support is given, along with many other nutritional supplements, including: Iodine, Magesium foot soaks, ect.  
 Lizzie
IP.S.  think this is a case where those who are sensitive to the wireless benefit from wearing the blocking fabric; and it does not HAVE to be worn grounded, we don't.
 We do, however ground ourselves using the cosmic energy stones in FILTERED water, and rinsing our heads. We do find that wearing our hair up in a braid seems to reduce the amt of static picked up by hair. And of course, it is easier to rinse the head/hair this way too.
 
 



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:23:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone


 



Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie?  I didn't find it to be that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM

 

Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/ sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter

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Wow Lizzie, is your daughter young. I feel so bad when I hear of the young ones with this disability.
 
Can you purchase the high performance silver fabric in already made apparel? Or do you have to make the clothing yourself out of it? 
 
I'm not a good at sewing?  Loni

--- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 4:08 PM


 




Yes, my daughter used to feel the burning and all the other nightmare symptoms...she is especially sensitive to: wifi/ cordless phones/cell phones/ antennas/towers/ipods, etc. *And she can feel if there is stray current in the ground wherever we are. The silver fabric of course, does not help with that problem, but it does help tremendously with the wireless nasties.
She has been wearing the high performance silver fabric from lessemf for the past 2 years. I make T-shirts and boxers, scarf and a cap that goes under a hat. She says it feels "much quieter" under this fabric. We tried the ready made boxers they sell, thinner fabric, similiar but my daughter says no where near as blocking as the high performance silver.
She wears a large scarf over her head and neck area if we go to high exposure areas (shopping, ect) and does well. Note: the fabric is only part of the healing protocol. Thyroid/adrenal support is given, along with many other nutritional supplements, including: Iodine, Magesium foot soaks, ect.
Lizzie
IP.S. think this is a case where those who are sensitive to the wireless benefit from wearing the blocking fabric; and it does not HAVE to be worn grounded, we don't.
We do, however ground ourselves using the cosmic energy stones in FILTERED water, and rinsing our heads. We do find that wearing our hair up in a braid seems to reduce the amt of static picked up by hair. And of course, it is easier to rinse the head/hair this way too.



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:23:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie? I didn't find it to be that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM

Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/ sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter

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I have gotten samples of shielding fabric and I can't even tolerate holding
 a tiny square of the stuff that's safe for babies!  We first got one of  
those silverelle baseball caps and I could feel it not only clear through the
 packaging but clear through the wall to the next room!  I'll try the foil  
but I don't know if I'll be able to tolerate it.  I guess the good news is  
my dad has off next week so we might be able to take a last-minute mini
vacation  out there to see if it's any better.  Thanks for the ideas and  
concern.  I'll check out New Mexico.
 
-Glitter
 
 
In a message dated 10/3/2011 3:30:01 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
loni326@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
I wonder if you just buy some of those torso shielders say that lessemf  
has. Maybe layer a couple of them so you have good blockage. Might be more  
comfortable and work better.  Loni



--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:eSens@yahoogroups.com) , "Glitter"  
<windfeather118@...> wrote:
>
> Somebody did another update  a few days ago in our neck of the woods and
my weak spot has moved up from my  abdomen to my heart region and it is
_not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I  might actually have to move all by my
onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia  area. I know no one out there. Flying
is out, Greyhound is out, and trains  probably are, too at this point but
I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum  live in the Quiet Zone? Are there
good web pages for jobs in that area? I have  a B.A. in arts but can do just
about anything that doesn't require having to  be outside in all kinds of
weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have  experience in retail and bakery. I
was looking at the Craigslist for the areas  but my internet connection
keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm  taking for granted that if
they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll  be able to work just about
anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!
>  
> -Glitter

Yes my friend said that the observatory in NM does not have any cell radiation there. I'm going to call and check in to myself. Loni

--- On Mon, 10/3/11, windfeather118@aol.com <windfeather118@aol.com> wrote:


From: windfeather118@aol.com <windfeather118@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: eSens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 5:40 PM


 



I have gotten samples of shielding fabric and I can't even tolerate holding
a tiny square of the stuff that's safe for babies! We first got one of
those silverelle baseball caps and I could feel it not only clear through the
packaging but clear through the wall to the next room! I'll try the foil
but I don't know if I'll be able to tolerate it. I guess the good news is
my dad has off next week so we might be able to take a last-minute mini
vacation out there to see if it's any better. Thanks for the ideas and
concern. I'll check out New Mexico.

-Glitter


In a message dated 10/3/2011 3:30:01 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
loni326@yahoo.com writes:

I wonder if you just buy some of those torso shielders say that lessemf
has. Maybe layer a couple of them so you have good blockage. Might be more
comfortable and work better. Loni


--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:eSens@yahoogroups.com) , "Glitter"
<windfeather118@...> wrote:
>
> Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and
my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is
_not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my
onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying
is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but
I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there
good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just
about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of
weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I
was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection
keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if
they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about
anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!
>
> -Glitter

Loni,
Unfortunately, no, they sell it by the ft. Or you can ask them to translate to yards.
The only thing I've seen already made is the chamis, and boxers and I got her the boxers and the fabric
is no where near as blocking as the high performance silver stuff. (I think they do sell a t-shirt, but again,
I don't think its the same fabric) Loni? Before this, I could barely sew a curtain. So far, I've made several
T-shirts and boxers. Teens are hard on their clothes, and the high perf silver is thin, but pretty sturdy if
you aren't a teenager! I can't tell you how many times I 've had to repair rips and tears. What I did was
take a over size T-shirt, some big paper (you can tape together reg paper), and make the front and back
pattern. The T-shirt is EASY. Two seams, on the sides. Cut a little v in the front, makes it easier to put on
and take off. Go larger for easy movement, and make sure to leave enough room for generous seams,
this helps reduce any tearing and there shouldn't be any gaps in the seams.
The boxers? Chuckle chuckle, the first few pairs I made? (because she wears them ALL the
time!! AFter about 6 mths, she wears them out) The first few pairs of boxers I made- well? They worked!
They weren't by any means perfect. It took me like 4 pairs to finally get it RIGHT! But when you gotta do
something, you find a way! I practiced on cheap muslim fabric first. Its not like anyone is going to see it,
she wears it under her reg clothes...but you do gotta be able to "move" in it. She can always tell the
difference between a new pair I made and the old.
The only way I could get her to take
a shower, was to line the inside of the shower with the high performance....I used a large plastic circle
big enough for her stand in and barely move, and clipped the fabric around that on the outside, with the
shower curtain on the inside. Otherwise, she feels the radiation from the antenna on the water tower a block
away. In the summer, this fabric is hot. But given the choice bwt being hot and being burned?
It was when
we started the shielding that she started to heal. She still has minor symptoms, but no where near what
she used to get. Mainly because she rarely goes anywhere. To her, its not worth it to get irradiated. The few
times she goes to the store with me, she wears a large high perf silver scarf around her head and neck.
Yea, it sucks for her. But she's been a real trooper. She's an inspriation for me...she never complains...
imagine that...no prom, no bowling, very little physical contact with her old friends...the few that come
around do take the batteries out of their cell phones a block away...but they are so toxic, we have to
pre and post treat for symptoms.
She's a wonderful and extremely talented artist...
Thanks for your empathy. She has a friend her age who has a "cyst"on his brain. As its right where
he uses his cell phone...somehow I don't think its a cyst....
He's say his cell
phone gives him a headache..but of course, he still uses it. The rest of them aren't healthy either.
Somehow, she manages to deal with this.
 
Hope this helps.
Lizzie



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:26:48 -0700
Subject: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie


 



Wow Lizzie, is your daughter young. I feel so bad when I hear of the young ones with this disability.
 
Can you purchase the high performance silver fabric in already made apparel? Or do you have to make the clothing yourself out of it?  
 
I'm not a good at sewing?  Loni

--- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 4:08 PM

 

Yes, my daughter used to feel the burning and all the other nightmare symptoms...she is especially sensitive to: wifi/ cordless phones/cell phones/ antennas/towers/ipods, etc. *And she can feel if there is stray current in the ground wherever we are. The silver fabric of course, does not help with that problem, but it does help tremendously with the wireless nasties.
She has been wearing the high performance silver fabric from lessemf for the past 2 years. I make T-shirts and boxers, scarf and a cap that goes under a hat. She says it feels "much quieter" under this fabric. We tried the ready made boxers they sell, thinner fabric, similiar but my daughter says no where near as blocking as the high performance silver.
She wears a large scarf over her head and neck area if we go to high exposure areas (shopping, ect) and does well. Note: the fabric is only part of the healing protocol. Thyroid/adrenal support is given, along with many other nutritional supplements, including: Iodine, Magesium foot soaks, ect.
Lizzie
IP.S. think this is a case where those who are sensitive to the wireless benefit from wearing the blocking fabric; and it does not HAVE to be worn grounded, we don't.
We do, however ground ourselves using the cosmic energy stones in FILTERED water, and rinsing our heads. We do find that wearing our hair up in a braid seems to reduce the amt of static picked up by hair. And of course, it is easier to rinse the head/hair this way too.

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:23:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie? I didn't find it to be that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM

Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/ sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter

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Thanks Lizzie for the info. I look in to the fabric but I'd sooooooo much rather buy something already made. ha ha
 
Breaks my heart about your daughter. makes me raving mad at the government for allowing this overexposure!  Sounds like she is dealing with the cards she has been delt. Good for her.
 
Loni

--- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 7:24 PM


 




Loni,
Unfortunately, no, they sell it by the ft. Or you can ask them to translate to yards.
The only thing I've seen already made is the chamis, and boxers and I got her the boxers and the fabric
is no where near as blocking as the high performance silver stuff. (I think they do sell a t-shirt, but again,
I don't think its the same fabric) Loni? Before this, I could barely sew a curtain. So far, I've made several
T-shirts and boxers. Teens are hard on their clothes, and the high perf silver is thin, but pretty sturdy if
you aren't a teenager! I can't tell you how many times I 've had to repair rips and tears. What I did was
take a over size T-shirt, some big paper (you can tape together reg paper), and make the front and back
pattern. The T-shirt is EASY. Two seams, on the sides. Cut a little v in the front, makes it easier to put on
and take off. Go larger for easy movement, and make sure to leave enough room for generous seams,
this helps reduce any tearing and there shouldn't be any gaps in the seams.
The boxers? Chuckle chuckle, the first few pairs I made? (because she wears them ALL the
time!! AFter about 6 mths, she wears them out) The first few pairs of boxers I made- well? They worked!
They weren't by any means perfect. It took me like 4 pairs to finally get it RIGHT! But when you gotta do
something, you find a way! I practiced on cheap muslim fabric first. Its not like anyone is going to see it,
she wears it under her reg clothes...but you do gotta be able to "move" in it. She can always tell the
difference between a new pair I made and the old.
The only way I could get her to take
a shower, was to line the inside of the shower with the high performance....I used a large plastic circle
big enough for her stand in and barely move, and clipped the fabric around that on the outside, with the
shower curtain on the inside. Otherwise, she feels the radiation from the antenna on the water tower a block
away. In the summer, this fabric is hot. But given the choice bwt being hot and being burned?
It was when
we started the shielding that she started to heal. She still has minor symptoms, but no where near what
she used to get. Mainly because she rarely goes anywhere. To her, its not worth it to get irradiated. The few
times she goes to the store with me, she wears a large high perf silver scarf around her head and neck.
Yea, it sucks for her. But she's been a real trooper. She's an inspriation for me...she never complains...
imagine that...no prom, no bowling, very little physical contact with her old friends...the few that come
around do take the batteries out of their cell phones a block away...but they are so toxic, we have to
pre and post treat for symptoms.
She's a wonderful and extremely talented artist...
Thanks for your empathy. She has a friend her age who has a "cyst"on his brain. As its right where
he uses his cell phone...somehow I don't think its a cyst....
He's say his cell
phone gives him a headache..but of course, he still uses it. The rest of them aren't healthy either.
Somehow, she manages to deal with this.

Hope this helps.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:26:48 -0700
Subject: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie

Wow Lizzie, is your daughter young. I feel so bad when I hear of the young ones with this disability.

Can you purchase the high performance silver fabric in already made apparel? Or do you have to make the clothing yourself out of it?

I'm not a good at sewing? Loni

--- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 4:08 PM

Yes, my daughter used to feel the burning and all the other nightmare symptoms...she is especially sensitive to: wifi/ cordless phones/cell phones/ antennas/towers/ipods, etc. *And she can feel if there is stray current in the ground wherever we are. The silver fabric of course, does not help with that problem, but it does help tremendously with the wireless nasties.
She has been wearing the high performance silver fabric from lessemf for the past 2 years. I make T-shirts and boxers, scarf and a cap that goes under a hat. She says it feels "much quieter" under this fabric. We tried the ready made boxers they sell, thinner fabric, similiar but my daughter says no where near as blocking as the high performance silver.
She wears a large scarf over her head and neck area if we go to high exposure areas (shopping, ect) and does well. Note: the fabric is only part of the healing protocol. Thyroid/adrenal support is given, along with many other nutritional supplements, including: Iodine, Magesium foot soaks, ect.
Lizzie
IP.S. think this is a case where those who are sensitive to the wireless benefit from wearing the blocking fabric; and it does not HAVE to be worn grounded, we don't.
We do, however ground ourselves using the cosmic energy stones in FILTERED water, and rinsing our heads. We do find that wearing our hair up in a braid seems to reduce the amt of static picked up by hair. And of course, it is easier to rinse the head/hair this way too.

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:23:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie? I didn't find it to be that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM

Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/ sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter

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Loni,
If you send me the fabric - and pay for shipping, I'll make you a T-shirt and boxers...shipping
won't be too high, the fabric is very light. And I'd need size info of course.
Lizzie
 



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From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:04:17 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie


 



Thanks Lizzie for the info. I look in to the fabric but I'd sooooooo much rather buy something already made. ha ha
 
Breaks my heart about your daughter. makes me raving mad at the government for allowing this overexposure!  Sounds like she is dealing with the cards she has been delt. Good for her.
 
Loni

--- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 7:24 PM

 

Loni,
Unfortunately, no, they sell it by the ft. Or you can ask them to translate to yards.
The only thing I've seen already made is the chamis, and boxers and I got her the boxers and the fabric
is no where near as blocking as the high performance silver stuff. (I think they do sell a t-shirt, but again,
I don't think its the same fabric) Loni? Before this, I could barely sew a curtain. So far, I've made several
T-shirts and boxers. Teens are hard on their clothes, and the high perf silver is thin, but pretty sturdy if
you aren't a teenager! I can't tell you how many times I 've had to repair rips and tears. What I did was
take a over size T-shirt, some big paper (you can tape together reg paper), and make the front and back
pattern. The T-shirt is EASY. Two seams, on the sides. Cut a little v in the front, makes it easier to put on
and take off. Go larger for easy movement, and make sure to leave enough room for generous seams,
this helps reduce any tearing and there shouldn't be any gaps in the seams.
The boxers? Chuckle chuckle, the first few pairs I made? (because she wears them ALL the
time!! AFter about 6 mths, she wears them out) The first few pairs of boxers I made- well? They worked!
They weren't by any means perfect. It took me like 4 pairs to finally get it RIGHT! But when you gotta do
something, you find a way! I practiced on cheap muslim fabric first. Its not like anyone is going to see it,
she wears it under her reg clothes...but you do gotta be able to "move" in it. She can always tell the
difference between a new pair I made and the old.
The only way I could get her to take
a shower, was to line the inside of the shower with the high performance....I used a large plastic circle
big enough for her stand in and barely move, and clipped the fabric around that on the outside, with the
shower curtain on the inside. Otherwise, she feels the radiation from the antenna on the water tower a block
away. In the summer, this fabric is hot. But given the choice bwt being hot and being burned?
It was when
we started the shielding that she started to heal. She still has minor symptoms, but no where near what
she used to get. Mainly because she rarely goes anywhere. To her, its not worth it to get irradiated. The few
times she goes to the store with me, she wears a large high perf silver scarf around her head and neck.
Yea, it sucks for her. But she's been a real trooper. She's an inspriation for me...she never complains...
imagine that...no prom, no bowling, very little physical contact with her old friends...the few that come
around do take the batteries out of their cell phones a block away...but they are so toxic, we have to
pre and post treat for symptoms.
She's a wonderful and extremely talented artist...
Thanks for your empathy. She has a friend her age who has a "cyst"on his brain. As its right where
he uses his cell phone...somehow I don't think its a cyst....
He's say his cell
phone gives him a headache..but of course, he still uses it. The rest of them aren't healthy either.
Somehow, she manages to deal with this.

Hope this helps.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:26:48 -0700
Subject: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie

Wow Lizzie, is your daughter young. I feel so bad when I hear of the young ones with this disability.

Can you purchase the high performance silver fabric in already made apparel? Or do you have to make the clothing yourself out of it?

I'm not a good at sewing? Loni

--- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 4:08 PM

Yes, my daughter used to feel the burning and all the other nightmare symptoms...she is especially sensitive to: wifi/ cordless phones/cell phones/ antennas/towers/ipods, etc. *And she can feel if there is stray current in the ground wherever we are. The silver fabric of course, does not help with that problem, but it does help tremendously with the wireless nasties.
She has been wearing the high performance silver fabric from lessemf for the past 2 years. I make T-shirts and boxers, scarf and a cap that goes under a hat. She says it feels "much quieter" under this fabric. We tried the ready made boxers they sell, thinner fabric, similiar but my daughter says no where near as blocking as the high performance silver.
She wears a large scarf over her head and neck area if we go to high exposure areas (shopping, ect) and does well. Note: the fabric is only part of the healing protocol. Thyroid/adrenal support is given, along with many other nutritional supplements, including: Iodine, Magesium foot soaks, ect.
Lizzie
IP.S. think this is a case where those who are sensitive to the wireless benefit from wearing the blocking fabric; and it does not HAVE to be worn grounded, we don't.
We do, however ground ourselves using the cosmic energy stones in FILTERED water, and rinsing our heads. We do find that wearing our hair up in a braid seems to reduce the amt of static picked up by hair. And of course, it is easier to rinse the head/hair this way too.

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:23:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie? I didn't find it to be that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM

Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/ sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone

Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_ good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!

-Glitter

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Sounds like a good business.  That is nice fabric...  you
can see through it pretty well though others can't see you if it's over your
face.

Make sure the shirt is long enough to contact the boxers
all the way around.   Good idea to use fabric that is conductive
on the outside, otherwise the seams are too leaky.  But be careful around
electric plugs (could start a fire or zap you).

A scarf or hoodie is a good idea, because otherwise you're
going to feel it even stronger in the neck region.

Do you wash the fabric?  When I used to have it with me
sometimes it would pick up perfume depending on where I went.
And juice and such will tarnish it.  I never tried washing it.



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Yea, we do tuck in to the boxers. No, you can hand wash it..we have gotten it wet..
normally we hang them and let them AIR out. I always cover the neck/thryoid area...
with a scarf made of same. Chiropractors have NOT a clue to WHY their business
has picked up so much, these past few yrs. I know with me, that this wireless
stuff does tend to throw my axel out (neck area). Shielding with the scarf
has reduced this very much soo. Yes, the fabric does breathe, and my daughter
s/times put her whole scarf over her head and face, its nice that you can see
thru this. It is hot to wear in the summer, but better then being fried.
With my daughter, I make her t-shirt extra long, so it acts as a doubling of shielding  
over the abdomen area, along with the boxers. Google Barrie Trower for some
insightful and quite scary info into this technology and history..and you'll know why
 I double her fabric that way!
All my essential outlets are now wired properly and we used the MC cable..this
has proven well worth the money. *EXcellent point on the neck...for awhile there
back, I thought it was just me...but now I know its not.
Lizzie
 
     

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I only do basic sewing but have just gotten patterns to make a long sleeve scoop neck cotton tshirt and leggings, like long underwear that could go under jeans, etc....can't find them ready made....  debbie




-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: esens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:38 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie

 
Yea, we do tuck in to the boxers. No, you can hand wash it..we have gotten it wet..
normally we hang them and let them AIR out. I always cover the neck/thryoid area...
with a scarf made of same. Chiropractors have NOT a clue to WHY their business
has picked up so much, these past few yrs. I know with me, that this wireless
stuff does tend to throw my axel out (neck area). Shielding with the scarf
has reduced this very much soo. Yes, the fabric does breathe, and my daughter
s/times put her whole scarf over her head and face, its nice that you can see
thru this. It is hot to wear in the summer, but better then being fried.
With my daughter, I make her t-shirt extra long, so it acts as a doubling of shielding
over the abdomen area, along with the boxers. Google Barrie Trower for some
insightful and quite scary info into this technology and history..and you'll know why
I double her fabric that way!
All my essential outlets are now wired properly and we used the MC cable..this
has proven well worth the money. *EXcellent point on the neck...for awhile there
back, I thought it was just me...but now I know its not.
Lizzie


&gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:05:50 -0600
&gt; Subject: Re: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt;
&gt; Sounds like a good business. That is nice fabric... you
&gt; can see through it pretty well though others can't see you if it's over your
&gt; face.
&gt;
&gt; Make sure the shirt is long enough to contact the boxers
&gt; all the way around. Good idea to use fabric that is conductive
&gt; on the outside, otherwise the seams are too leaky. But be careful around
&gt; electric plugs (could start a fire or zap you).
&gt;
&gt; A scarf or hoodie is a good idea, because otherwise you're
&gt; going to feel it even stronger in the neck region.
&gt;
&gt; Do you wash the fabric? When I used to have it with me
&gt; sometimes it would pick up perfume depending on where I went.
&gt; And juice and such will tarnish it. I never tried washing it.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; **
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Loni,
&gt; &gt; If you send me the fabric - and pay for shipping, I'll make you a T-shirt
&gt; &gt; and boxers...shipping
&gt; &gt; won't be too high, the fabric is very light. And I'd need size info of
&gt; &gt; course.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:04:17 -0700
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Thanks Lizzie for the info. I look in to the fabric but I'd sooooooo much
&gt; &gt; rather buy something already made. ha ha
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Breaks my heart about your daughter. makes me raving mad at the government
&gt; &gt; for allowing this overexposure! Sounds like she is dealing with the cards
&gt; &gt; she has been delt. Good for her.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Loni
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 7:24 PM
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Loni,
&gt; &gt; Unfortunately, no, they sell it by the ft. Or you can ask them to translate
&gt; &gt; to yards.
&gt; &gt; The only thing I've seen already made is the chamis, and boxers and I got
&gt; &gt; her the boxers and the fabric
&gt; &gt; is no where near as blocking as the high performance silver stuff. (I think
&gt; &gt; they do sell a t-shirt, but again,
&gt; &gt; I don't think its the same fabric) Loni? Before this, I could barely sew a
&gt; &gt; curtain. So far, I've made several
&gt; &gt; T-shirts and boxers. Teens are hard on their clothes, and the high perf
&gt; &gt; silver is thin, but pretty sturdy if
&gt; &gt; you aren't a teenager! I can't tell you how many times I 've had to repair
&gt; &gt; rips and tears. What I did was
&gt; &gt; take a over size T-shirt, some big paper (you can tape together reg paper),
&gt; &gt; and make the front and back
&gt; &gt; pattern. The T-shirt is EASY. Two seams, on the sides. Cut a little v in
&gt; &gt; the front, makes it easier to put on
&gt; &gt; and take off. Go larger for easy movement, and make sure to leave enough
&gt; &gt; room for generous seams,
&gt; &gt; this helps reduce any tearing and there shouldn't be any gaps in the seams.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; The boxers? Chuckle chuckle, the first few pairs I made? (because she wears
&gt; &gt; them ALL the
&gt; &gt; time!! AFter about 6 mths, she wears them out) The first few pairs of
&gt; &gt; boxers I made- well? They worked!
&gt; &gt; They weren't by any means perfect. It took me like 4 pairs to finally get
&gt; &gt; it RIGHT! But when you gotta do
&gt; &gt; something, you find a way! I practiced on cheap muslim fabric first. Its
&gt; &gt; not like anyone is going to see it,
&gt; &gt; she wears it under her reg clothes...but you do gotta be able to "move" in
&gt; &gt; it. She can always tell the
&gt; &gt; difference between a new pair I made and the old.
&gt; &gt; The only way I could get her to take
&gt; &gt; a shower, was to line the inside of the shower with the high
&gt; &gt; performance....I used a large plastic circle
&gt; &gt; big enough for her stand in and barely move, and clipped the fabric around
&gt; &gt; that on the outside, with the
&gt; &gt; shower curtain on the inside. Otherwise, she feels the radiation from the
&gt; &gt; antenna on the water tower a block
&gt; &gt; away. In the summer, this fabric is hot. But given the choice bwt being hot
&gt; &gt; and being burned?
&gt; &gt; It was when
&gt; &gt; we started the shielding that she started to heal. She still has minor
&gt; &gt; symptoms, but no where near what
&gt; &gt; she used to get. Mainly because she rarely goes anywhere. To her, its not
&gt; &gt; worth it to get irradiated. The few
&gt; &gt; times she goes to the store with me, she wears a large high perf silver
&gt; &gt; scarf around her head and neck.
&gt; &gt; Yea, it sucks for her. But she's been a real trooper. She's an inspriation
&gt; &gt; for me...she never complains...
&gt; &gt; imagine that...no prom, no bowling, very little physical contact with her
&gt; &gt; old friends...the few that come
&gt; &gt; around do take the batteries out of their cell phones a block away...but
&gt; &gt; they are so toxic, we have to
&gt; &gt; pre and post treat for symptoms.
&gt; &gt; She's a wonderful and extremely talented artist...
&gt; &gt; Thanks for your empathy. She has a friend her age who has a "cyst"on his
&gt; &gt; brain. As its right where
&gt; &gt; he uses his cell phone...somehow I don't think its a cyst....
&gt; &gt; He's say his cell
&gt; &gt; phone gives him a headache..but of course, he still uses it. The rest of
&gt; &gt; them aren't healthy either.
&gt; &gt; Somehow, she manages to deal with this.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Hope this helps.
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:26:48 -0700
&gt; &gt; Subject: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Wow Lizzie, is your daughter young. I feel so bad when I hear of the young
&gt; &gt; ones with this disability.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Can you purchase the high performance silver fabric in already made
&gt; &gt; apparel? Or do you have to make the clothing yourself out of it?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I'm not a good at sewing? Loni
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 4:08 PM
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Yes, my daughter used to feel the burning and all the other nightmare
&gt; &gt; symptoms...she is especially sensitive to: wifi/ cordless phones/cell
&gt; &gt; phones/ antennas/towers/ipods, etc. *And she can feel if there is stray
&gt; &gt; current in the ground wherever we are. The silver fabric of course, does not
&gt; &gt; help with that problem, but it does help tremendously with the wireless
&gt; &gt; nasties.
&gt; &gt; She has been wearing the high performance silver fabric from lessemf for
&gt; &gt; the past 2 years. I make T-shirts and boxers, scarf and a cap that goes
&gt; &gt; under a hat. She says it feels "much quieter" under this fabric. We tried
&gt; &gt; the ready made boxers they sell, thinner fabric, similiar but my daughter
&gt; &gt; says no where near as blocking as the high performance silver.
&gt; &gt; She wears a large scarf over her head and neck area if we go to high
&gt; &gt; exposure areas (shopping, ect) and does well. Note: the fabric is only part
&gt; &gt; of the healing protocol. Thyroid/adrenal support is given, along with many
&gt; &gt; other nutritional supplements, including: Iodine, Magesium foot soaks, ect.
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
&gt; &gt; IP.S. think this is a case where those who are sensitive to the wireless
&gt; &gt; benefit from wearing the blocking fabric; and it does not HAVE to be worn
&gt; &gt; grounded, we don't.
&gt; &gt; We do, however ground ourselves using the cosmic energy stones in FILTERED
&gt; &gt; water, and rinsing our heads. We do find that wearing our hair up in a braid
&gt; &gt; seems to reduce the amt of static picked up by hair. And of course, it is
&gt; &gt; easier to rinse the head/hair this way too.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:23:51 -0700
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie? I didn't find it to be
&gt; &gt; that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/
&gt; &gt; sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing
&gt; &gt; shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
&gt; &gt; wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may
&gt; &gt; be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
&gt; &gt; Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my
&gt; &gt; weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_
&gt; &gt; good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my
&gt; &gt; onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying
&gt; &gt; is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm
&gt; &gt; not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good
&gt; &gt; web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about
&gt; &gt; anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather
&gt; &gt; or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was
&gt; &gt; looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps
&gt; &gt; freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they
&gt; &gt; aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about
&gt; &gt; anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; -Glitter
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Not sure if there was a question in there Debbie.
I can tell you this: if you're thinking of making a pair a leggings out of the high performance silver fabric,
I made a pair and unlike stretchy leggings that allow movement, the silver fabric does not have that kind
of stretch..they dragged at the knees under the blue jeans we wear- that's why we went to the boxer style. But if
you're looking for something that would cover more, a loose loooong shirt dress kind of design might work.
I strongly suggest to anyone using the high performance silver fabric to make clothing items, to practice
on cheap muslim fabric first, as the silver fabric is pricey. And keep in mind, a scarf silver fabric to cover the
neck /thryoid areas. Lessemf does sell the scarf, already made for (60 bucks) last time I looked- not sure if
they are using the exact same fabric or the thinner stuff, as I made our own scarves -ordering the high per
formance silver, (cheaper). If you are making the boxers, suggest you NOT use the internet patterns, those
are for the very tight cute little boxers, ours are patterned on real guys boxers, you'd want the FOUR piece
pattern, no need for a front slot. Personally, I wouldn't use a scoop neck for two reasons. The 1st, too much
fabric is needed, waste of resources, and 2nd, you want the thyroid & thyrmus gland (front of neck) shielded,
which is accomplished by a t-shirt neck with small v slit for easy on and off, and a scarf.
Lizzie



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:28:22 -0400
Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie


 



I only do basic sewing but have just gotten patterns to make a long sleeve scoop neck cotton tshirt and leggings, like long underwear that could go under jeans, etc....can't find them ready made....  debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: esens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 4:38 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie

 
Yea, we do tuck in to the boxers. No, you can hand wash it..we have gotten it wet..
normally we hang them and let them AIR out. I always cover the neck/thryoid area...
with a scarf made of same. Chiropractors have NOT a clue to WHY their business
has picked up so much, these past few yrs. I know with me, that this wireless
stuff does tend to throw my axel out (neck area). Shielding with the scarf
has reduced this very much soo. Yes, the fabric does breathe, and my daughter
s/times put her whole scarf over her head and face, its nice that you can see
thru this. It is hot to wear in the summer, but better then being fried.
With my daughter, I make her t-shirt extra long, so it acts as a doubling of shielding
over the abdomen area, along with the boxers. Google Barrie Trower for some
insightful and quite scary info into this technology and history..and you'll know why
I double her fabric that way!
All my essential outlets are now wired properly and we used the MC cable..this
has proven well worth the money. *EXcellent point on the neck...for awhile there
back, I thought it was just me...but now I know its not.
Lizzie

&gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:05:50 -0600
&gt; Subject: Re: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt;
&gt; Sounds like a good business. That is nice fabric... you
&gt; can see through it pretty well though others can't see you if it's over your
&gt; face.
&gt;
&gt; Make sure the shirt is long enough to contact the boxers
&gt; all the way around. Good idea to use fabric that is conductive
&gt; on the outside, otherwise the seams are too leaky. But be careful around
&gt; electric plugs (could start a fire or zap you).
&gt;
&gt; A scarf or hoodie is a good idea, because otherwise you're
&gt; going to feel it even stronger in the neck region.
&gt;
&gt; Do you wash the fabric? When I used to have it with me
&gt; sometimes it would pick up perfume depending on where I went.
&gt; And juice and such will tarnish it. I never tried washing it.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:
&gt;
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&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Loni,
&gt; &gt; If you send me the fabric - and pay for shipping, I'll make you a T-shirt
&gt; &gt; and boxers...shipping
&gt; &gt; won't be too high, the fabric is very light. And I'd need size info of
&gt; &gt; course.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
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&gt; &gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:04:17 -0700
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Thanks Lizzie for the info. I look in to the fabric but I'd sooooooo much
&gt; &gt; rather buy something already made. ha ha
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Breaks my heart about your daughter. makes me raving mad at the government
&gt; &gt; for allowing this overexposure! Sounds like she is dealing with the cards
&gt; &gt; she has been delt. Good for her.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Loni
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- On Mon, 10/3/11, Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 7:24 PM
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Loni,
&gt; &gt; Unfortunately, no, they sell it by the ft. Or you can ask them to translate
&gt; &gt; to yards.
&gt; &gt; The only thing I've seen already made is the chamis, and boxers and I got
&gt; &gt; her the boxers and the fabric
&gt; &gt; is no where near as blocking as the high performance silver stuff. (I think
&gt; &gt; they do sell a t-shirt, but again,
&gt; &gt; I don't think its the same fabric) Loni? Before this, I could barely sew a
&gt; &gt; curtain. So far, I've made several
&gt; &gt; T-shirts and boxers. Teens are hard on their clothes, and the high perf
&gt; &gt; silver is thin, but pretty sturdy if
&gt; &gt; you aren't a teenager! I can't tell you how many times I 've had to repair
&gt; &gt; rips and tears. What I did was
&gt; &gt; take a over size T-shirt, some big paper (you can tape together reg paper),
&gt; &gt; and make the front and back
&gt; &gt; pattern. The T-shirt is EASY. Two seams, on the sides. Cut a little v in
&gt; &gt; the front, makes it easier to put on
&gt; &gt; and take off. Go larger for easy movement, and make sure to leave enough
&gt; &gt; room for generous seams,
&gt; &gt; this helps reduce any tearing and there shouldn't be any gaps in the seams.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; The boxers? Chuckle chuckle, the first few pairs I made? (because she wears
&gt; &gt; them ALL the
&gt; &gt; time!! AFter about 6 mths, she wears them out) The first few pairs of
&gt; &gt; boxers I made- well? They worked!
&gt; &gt; They weren't by any means perfect. It took me like 4 pairs to finally get
&gt; &gt; it RIGHT! But when you gotta do
&gt; &gt; something, you find a way! I practiced on cheap muslim fabric first. Its
&gt; &gt; not like anyone is going to see it,
&gt; &gt; she wears it under her reg clothes...but you do gotta be able to "move" in
&gt; &gt; it. She can always tell the
&gt; &gt; difference between a new pair I made and the old.
&gt; &gt; The only way I could get her to take
&gt; &gt; a shower, was to line the inside of the shower with the high
&gt; &gt; performance....I used a large plastic circle
&gt; &gt; big enough for her stand in and barely move, and clipped the fabric around
&gt; &gt; that on the outside, with the
&gt; &gt; shower curtain on the inside. Otherwise, she feels the radiation from the
&gt; &gt; antenna on the water tower a block
&gt; &gt; away. In the summer, this fabric is hot. But given the choice bwt being hot
&gt; &gt; and being burned?
&gt; &gt; It was when
&gt; &gt; we started the shielding that she started to heal. She still has minor
&gt; &gt; symptoms, but no where near what
&gt; &gt; she used to get. Mainly because she rarely goes anywhere. To her, its not
&gt; &gt; worth it to get irradiated. The few
&gt; &gt; times she goes to the store with me, she wears a large high perf silver
&gt; &gt; scarf around her head and neck.
&gt; &gt; Yea, it sucks for her. But she's been a real trooper. She's an inspriation
&gt; &gt; for me...she never complains...
&gt; &gt; imagine that...no prom, no bowling, very little physical contact with her
&gt; &gt; old friends...the few that come
&gt; &gt; around do take the batteries out of their cell phones a block away...but
&gt; &gt; they are so toxic, we have to
&gt; &gt; pre and post treat for symptoms.
&gt; &gt; She's a wonderful and extremely talented artist...
&gt; &gt; Thanks for your empathy. She has a friend her age who has a "cyst"on his
&gt; &gt; brain. As its right where
&gt; &gt; he uses his cell phone...somehow I don't think its a cyst....
&gt; &gt; He's say his cell
&gt; &gt; phone gives him a headache..but of course, he still uses it. The rest of
&gt; &gt; them aren't healthy either.
&gt; &gt; Somehow, she manages to deal with this.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Hope this helps.
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
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&gt; &gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:26:48 -0700
&gt; &gt; Subject: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Wow Lizzie, is your daughter young. I feel so bad when I hear of the young
&gt; &gt; ones with this disability.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Can you purchase the high performance silver fabric in already made
&gt; &gt; apparel? Or do you have to make the clothing yourself out of it?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I'm not a good at sewing? Loni
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&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 4:08 PM
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Yes, my daughter used to feel the burning and all the other nightmare
&gt; &gt; symptoms...she is especially sensitive to: wifi/ cordless phones/cell
&gt; &gt; phones/ antennas/towers/ipods, etc. *And she can feel if there is stray
&gt; &gt; current in the ground wherever we are. The silver fabric of course, does not
&gt; &gt; help with that problem, but it does help tremendously with the wireless
&gt; &gt; nasties.
&gt; &gt; She has been wearing the high performance silver fabric from lessemf for
&gt; &gt; the past 2 years. I make T-shirts and boxers, scarf and a cap that goes
&gt; &gt; under a hat. She says it feels "much quieter" under this fabric. We tried
&gt; &gt; the ready made boxers they sell, thinner fabric, similiar but my daughter
&gt; &gt; says no where near as blocking as the high performance silver.
&gt; &gt; She wears a large scarf over her head and neck area if we go to high
&gt; &gt; exposure areas (shopping, ect) and does well. Note: the fabric is only part
&gt; &gt; of the healing protocol. Thyroid/adrenal support is given, along with many
&gt; &gt; other nutritional supplements, including: Iodine, Magesium foot soaks, ect.
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
&gt; &gt; IP.S. think this is a case where those who are sensitive to the wireless
&gt; &gt; benefit from wearing the blocking fabric; and it does not HAVE to be worn
&gt; &gt; grounded, we don't.
&gt; &gt; We do, however ground ourselves using the cosmic energy stones in FILTERED
&gt; &gt; water, and rinsing our heads. We do find that wearing our hair up in a braid
&gt; &gt; seems to reduce the amt of static picked up by hair. And of course, it is
&gt; &gt; easier to rinse the head/hair this way too.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; From: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:23:51 -0700
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Have you had success with shielding fabric Lizzie? I didn't find it to be
&gt; &gt; that useful but I'll consider another whirl. Loni
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- On Sun, 10/2/11, Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt; To: [hidden email]
&gt; &gt; Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 2:44 PM
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Sorry to hear about your new problem. Depending upon which frequencies/
&gt; &gt; sources you are reacting too, you may be able to shield yourself by wearing
&gt; &gt; shielding fabric ( like from www.lessemf.com).......
&gt; &gt; wearing shielded fabric either at your current place or for the trip, may
&gt; &gt; be an option. But it does depend upon what it is, you are reacting too.
&gt; &gt; Lizzie
&gt; &gt;
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&gt; &gt; Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:35 +0000
&gt; &gt; Subject: [eSens] possibly going to have to move to the Quiet Zone
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Somebody did another update a few days ago in our neck of the woods and my
&gt; &gt; weak spot has moved up from my abdomen to my heart region and it is _not_
&gt; &gt; good. As much as I hate the idea I might actually have to move all by my
&gt; &gt; onesies to the Virginia/West Virginia area. I know no one out there. Flying
&gt; &gt; is out, Greyhound is out, and trains probably are, too at this point but I'm
&gt; &gt; not sure. Does anyone on this forum live in the Quiet Zone? Are there good
&gt; &gt; web pages for jobs in that area? I have a B.A. in arts but can do just about
&gt; &gt; anything that doesn't require having to be outside in all kinds of weather
&gt; &gt; or lifting more than 20 lbs. I have experience in retail and bakery. I was
&gt; &gt; looking at the Craigslist for the areas but my internet connection keeps
&gt; &gt; freezing up on me at crucial moments. I'm taking for granted that if they
&gt; &gt; aren't allowing all that electronic stuff I'll be able to work just about
&gt; &gt; anywhere. Thanks anybody who can answer!
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; -Glitter
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Hi Elizabeth,

I have two questions: 

1.  HIgh Performance Silver Mesh is silver coated nylon.  Doesn't the silver rub off on your skin and make it blackened?  Does it rip easily?

2.  You mention to cover the Thyroid and Thymus.  That makes sense because they are vulnerable and very important glands.  But I was wondering if those glands have a particular hypersensitivity to RH and if anyone is having problems with their Thymus? 

The reason I ask is because that is my weak spot and I am having a lot of pain in my Thymus during and after RH exposure.  Feels like it is bleeding..  I feared cancer and had a Thermogram, which is a non-invasive, non-radiation diagnositc tool.  It showed that my Thymus was radiating the most heat of anywhere in my body, and an abnormal amount, indicating a disease process.  I am wondering about how to best approach this very bad news. Of course, I will try to shield it from exposure, but it seems to be to late for that.

If I do have a tumor on it, the only way to diagnose that is by MRI or X-ray and I don't think my Thymus can take any more radiation.  Any input on Thymus diagnosis or healing?

Thanks for reading,

C. Johnson
Superdrove





--- On Tue, 10/4/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

 I wouldn't use a scoop neck for two reasons. The 1st, too much

fabric is needed, waste of resources, and 2nd, you want the thyroid & thyrmus gland (front of neck) shielded, which is accomplished by a t-shirt neck with small v slit for easy on and off, and a scarf.

Lizzie










 





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Hi,
No, it does not turn the skin black- in times of heavy sweat, there can be a residue, not harmful though, as silver is highly anti-microbial.
As for rips, the fabric is fairly sturdy....teenagers , at least mine, tend to be rough on clothing. (jumping ect). This is why the "fit" has to be loose enough to enable free movement, but tight enough to do the job. I did rip my arm hole once because I was in a hurry...have learned not to do that. As for thyroid/thymus issue- when the thyroid gland does NOT have adequate stores of Iodine, any radiation (chernobly/fukushime/wireless) will be absorbed thru the thyroid gland. Research shows the thyroid gland is EXTREMELY vulnerable to radiation. Google: Mark Sircus, radiation. This is also why I often stress adequate thyroid/adenal support. These are crucial elements of the immune system. Leaving these two glands out of the healing equation is akin to building a house with no foundation.
 
*(This is why I don't take Kelp by itself to replenish Iodine stores, as the body needs huge amts...there are Iodine receptors in every part of the body*read Dr. David Brownsteins book: "Iodine-Why You Need It". Often, nodules can develop on the thyroid, regular mainstream treats this as a cancer. My  extensive research in this area- is that the nodules form due to IODINE DEFICIENCY. I have often applied liquid Iodine drops directly on my thryoid and there have been times when Es daughter was exposed strong wireless sources and said she felt like her throat/thryoid was swelling. Iodine took care of this within 15 min or so. The first time, she was unknowingly exposed to a friends high power cordless tele..her throat ballooned out. For such a severe case, I used the stronger LUgol's 5%. Bottom line? Yes the Thymus is important, but the thryoid/adrenals are at the very top of the list. **It is, in my opinion, never too late. The body has an amazing ability to heal itself, given the right tools **think nutrients/minerals and proper shielding of vulnerable areas. (Shielding also means reduction of RF assault)
 I speak as one who was at the bottom of the barrel years ago. Simplified, disease and unhealth are caused from two things: Nutritional deficiencies and Toxic Over load. Which one comes first, does not matter, for one opens the door to the other.
In a nutshell: Iodine/Magnesium Chloride transdermal therapy* google Mark Sircus "Transdermal Magnesium Therapy"- the body needs huge amts of these two minerals. The breasts are the body's largest storehouse for Iodine. When the thryoid runs low on Iodine, it will borrow/steal Iodine from the breasts and any other tissues. This is also probably why breast cancer is so prevelant today.
When supply is low, this no doubt does affect the Thymus gland. In the winter, the Thyroid needs MORE Iodine because one of the  many jobs the thyroid gland does, is to regulate the body's temperature, like the thermostat on a furnace. If it calls for more Iodine, and there isn't enough? Bad news. This is also why people tend to get sicker in the cold months..the thryoid is trying to both keep the body healthy and supply enough heat. And wthout adequate supplies/tools, it cannot do its job. When the thyroid goes into distress, the adrenals jump into help. If both these glands are minus adequate supplies, they both go down. The adrenals are the Rottweillers of the body, they stand before health and disease. Usually, if the thryoid has been struggling for some time, the adrenals are also struggling. I have seen miracles upon miracles. Check out the articles I mentioned. READ!
Lizzie  



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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 23:27:24 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie


 



Hi Elizabeth,

I have two questions:  

1.  HIgh Performance Silver Mesh is silver coated nylon.  Doesn't the silver rub off on your skin and make it blackened?  Does it rip easily?

2.  You mention to cover the Thyroid and Thymus.  That makes sense because they are vulnerable and very important glands.  But I was wondering if those glands have a particular hypersensitivity to RH and if anyone is having problems with their Thymus?  

The reason I ask is because that is my weak spot and I am having a lot of pain in my Thymus during and after RH exposure.  Feels like it is bleeding..  I feared cancer and had a Thermogram, which is a non-invasive, non-radiation diagnositc tool.  It showed that my Thymus was radiating the most heat of anywhere in my body, and an abnormal amount, indicating a disease process.  I am wondering about how to best approach this very bad news. Of course, I will try to shield it from exposure, but it seems to be to late for that.

If I do have a tumor on it, the only way to diagnose that is by MRI or X-ray and I don't think my Thymus can take any more radiation.  Any input on Thymus diagnosis or healing?

Thanks for reading,

C. Johnson
Superdrove

--- On Tue, 10/4/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

 I wouldn't use a scoop neck for two reasons. The 1st, too much

fabric is needed, waste of resources, and 2nd, you want the thyroid & thyrmus gland (front of neck) shielded, which is accomplished by a t-shirt neck with small v slit for easy on and off, and a scarf.

Lizzie

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They explained the red areas are the body's raduating heat? I had a thermogram a year ago.

Unless I misunderstood, I was explained things are fine, unless the area is dark black, meaning there is a problem in that area not receiving oxygen.

Would an ultrasound be less than the physical feeling, most would have to an MRI?
Kathy



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Subject: RE: [eSens] High Performance Silver Fabric/Lizzie
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 1:27 AM















 
 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Elizabeth,



I have two questions: 



1.  HIgh Performance Silver Mesh is silver coated nylon.  Doesn't the silver rub off on your skin and make it blackened?  Does it rip easily?



2.  You mention to cover the Thyroid and Thymus.  That makes sense because they are vulnerable and very important glands.  But I was wondering if those glands have a particular hypersensitivity to RH and if anyone is having problems with their Thymus? 



The reason I ask is because that is my weak spot and I am having a lot of pain in my Thymus during and after RH exposure.  Feels like it is bleeding..  I feared cancer and had a Thermogram, which is a non-invasive, non-radiation diagnositc tool.  It showed that my Thymus was radiating the most heat of anywhere in my body, and an abnormal amount, indicating a disease process.  I am wondering about how to best approach this very bad news. Of course, I will try to shield it from exposure, but it seems to be to late for that.



If I do have a tumor on it, the only way to diagnose that is by MRI or X-ray and I don't think my Thymus can take any more radiation.  Any input on Thymus diagnosis or healing?



Thanks for reading,



C. Johnson

Superdrove



--- On Tue, 10/4/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:



 I wouldn't use a scoop neck for two reasons. The 1st, too much



fabric is needed, waste of resources, and 2nd, you want the thyroid & thyrmus gland (front of neck) shielded, which is accomplished by a t-shirt neck with small v slit for easy on and off, and a scarf.



Lizzie



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