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>
>
> Good find!  And a wonderful relief to see she is a shiny beauty living out
> on her own... I pictured her much younger!  Thank you Marc for reaching
> out... hope she responds!
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Book
>
>
>
> On August 26, ci dixon <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Lizzie's gonna sue us from beyond the grave?  My suggestion was to set
> up a
> > fund for her daughter that any proceeds would go into.
>
> Also, note that I've just found Lizzie's daughters Facebook page, and
> have sent her a message asking if there are any details that could
> be shared with the group. It appears that she moved out of state
> prior to her mother's passing, and is currently employed.
>
> Marc
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

> what i meant was, to gather together lizzie's writings.
> she also wrote private messages, i know, for i was
> blessed with many from her.  she certainly described
> herself well in this email from 2011.  i am sure she
> would be pleased to continue to give her generous
> information to others who also suffered.
> love, patricia
>
>
>
> i am regretting that i didn't invite her to write a book
> and i would be happy to edit and publish it, as i am a
> writer, publisher, editor, designer, etc.  would anyone
> like to help me assemble such a book and then we
> could offer it free to anyone who is electro sensitive?
> love, patricia
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 11:06 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:
>
> > Thank you so much Kathy.  Thanks for capturing Lizzie.  I often
> encouraged her to author.  She was a fine writer.  I cannot believe that I
> am sitting here referring to her in the past tense. This whole thing is so
> surreal.  Who was she...Who was this loving but passionate person?  I am
> sad that I won't get to meet her in this life and I just don't know why.
>  She added joy and hope to a year that might have been totally
> depressing...She offered light in a dark reality. She was a loving sister.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Kathy Baumann <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:59 PM
> > Subject: [eSens]
> >
> >
> > To remember our friend.
> >
> > Elizabeth wrote: 2011
> > Why I do “what I do”:
> > I often get asked by my friends why I spend so much time and energy
> trying
> > to help people- And why do I do this for free when there are so many
> venues
> > out there, who charge outrageous fees and their information isn’t half as
> > complete or useful- as mine is.
> > And why don’t I seem to care if my information even gets any credit.  And
> > what really  irritates  my friends are the people out there on the
> support
> > groups, who make subtle but nasty comments. My friends think I’m wasting
> my
> > time and precious energy. They think it’s stupid to keep repeating what I
> > know to be true.
> > Sometimes they roll their eyes when they see me spend hours upon hours
> > pulling up websites to back up “why I say, what I say”. They don’t think
> > it’s my job to double check what someone else should have, but didn’t.
>  But
> > at the same time, they are much appreciative when I uncover information
> > about a product or therapy that they were going to try- and changed their
> > mind- because I shared what I already knew, or I showed them what I had
> > found.
> > So why do I continue to DO what I do? It’s really very simple. I made
> > myself a promise that if I ever found my way out of this blackened
> > fun-house maze of mirrors of no answers- that if I was ever fortunate
> > enough to get to the point where I at least felt human, that I would
> share
> > what I had learned for free.
> > If I could help even just one person out there, avoid all the mistakes I
> > made, if I could help just one person not get ripped off again, if I
> could
> > help one person find enough answers to give them enough energy to keep
> > going, enough focus and hope to not stop trying-then my journey to hell
> and
> > back would all be worth it.
> > Years ago when my health took a dive- I spent a lot of money, a lot of
> time
> > in Dr’s offices, more time and an outrageous amount of money spent on
> > alternative
> > practitioners offices. What I got for all of that- was frustrated and
> even
> > more tired. And more sick.  What I didn’t get, were answers that worked.
> > ....................Oh sure, out of 13 places I sought help at, I picked
> up
> > one or two pieces of the puzzle. But for the most part, it took me
> digging
> > into the research and spending literally thousands of hours reading and
> > wading thru the information, to find answers that worked. It then took
> me,
> > being my own guinea pig, trying out different products, and different
> > combinations to find those things that did work. Now double this time and
> > money factor, being spent in the ES areas. I had to know more than my
> > Electrician. And I had to learn to look at my house complete
> differently. I
> > had to learn from the ground up.
> > What I found was this: ES is such a mixed bag that in entails more than
> > just knowing about the Thyroid and the Adrenals and how they affect the
> > body. ES involves more than just knowing about nutrition. More than just
> > knowing about heavy metals or silver mercury fillings or about chelation
> > and detox remedies.  And then there’s root canals and crowns.
> > ES runs the gamut of everything inside the body, outside the body, in
> your
> > house, in your sleeping areas, in the wiring of the house, to the
> > appliances you use, to the water you drink, and even in how the water
> > supply enters  the house. To the products you buy, to the dishes and pots
> > and pans you use- and even in the clothing you wear. ES factors play a
> role
> > in the areas surrounding your house with: cell towers/ antennas/ smart
> > meters/ substations/ railroad trains/ geopathic stress/ wifi/ geologic
> rock
> > and mineral deposits in your area/subterranean bodies of water/  whether
> > the power lines are over head or buried/ to loose or broken insulators on
> > the utility power poles/ and even to how old the infrastructure “is” in
> the
> > area you live in.
> > All of these are completely separate subjects within themselves. But all
> of
> > these factors played a huge role in my journey.
> > My situation  included  so many  extra bells and whistles- translate
> that  to:
> > dangerous alone- four or five of these situations together- and you’ve
> gone
> > way past the alarm level.  And...... what I had to learn to do for myself
> > in the health crisis areas, I also had to do for my young daughter, who
> was
> > also suffering from ES.
> > It would have been so much easier if I could have found one book that
> > covered in detail, all of the above areas. It would have been so much
> > easier if I had found the correct Thyroid and Adrenal information from
> the
> > get go. And it would have been so much easier, if I’d have known someone
> > else who’d already been down this winding and twisting road. Someone who
> > didn’t mind me pestering them for help. Someone who didn’t mind me asking
> > them question after question after question. Someone who was as fluent in
> > thyroid and adrenals, as they were fluent in nutrition, or detox, vital
> > minerals, or cleanses, or safe silver filling procedures,  or magnet
> > therapy, or essential oil therapy, or baking soda, or candida, or house
> > wiring, or the old knob and tube wiring, or DSL high speed internet, or
> > boiler heat and the list goes on and on.
> > But I didn’t. So this is why I continue to “To Do What I Do”. Because
> it’s
> > the only thing that makes my journey bearable; to know that someone else
> > will helped by what I had to learn- the hard way.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> what i meant was, to gather together lizzie's writings.
> she also wrote private messages, i know, for i was
> blessed with many from her.  she certainly described
> herself well in this email from 2011.  i am sure she
> would be pleased to continue to give her generous
> information to others who also suffered.
> love, patricia
>
>
>
> i am regretting that i didn't invite her to write a book
> and i would be happy to edit and publish it, as i am a
> writer, publisher, editor, designer, etc.  would anyone
> like to help me assemble such a book and then we
> could offer it free to anyone who is electro sensitive?
> love, patricia
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 11:06 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:
>
> > Thank you so much Kathy.  Thanks for capturing Lizzie.  I often
> encouraged her to author.  She was a fine writer.  I cannot believe that I
> am sitting here referring to her in the past tense. This whole thing is so
> surreal.  Who was she...Who was this loving but passionate person?  I am
> sad that I won't get to meet her in this life and I just don't know why.
>  She added joy and hope to a year that might have been totally
> depressing...She offered light in a dark reality. She was a loving sister.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Kathy Baumann <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:59 PM
> > Subject: [eSens]
> >
> >
> > To remember our friend.
> >
> > Elizabeth wrote: 2011
> > Why I do “what I do”:
> > I often get asked by my friends why I spend so much time and energy
> trying
> > to help people- And why do I do this for free when there are so many
> venues
> > out there, who charge outrageous fees and their information isn’t half as
> > complete or useful- as mine is.
> > And why don’t I seem to care if my information even gets any credit.  And
> > what really  irritates  my friends are the people out there on the
> support
> > groups, who make subtle but nasty comments. My friends think I’m wasting
> my
> > time and precious energy. They think it’s stupid to keep repeating what I
> > know to be true.
> > Sometimes they roll their eyes when they see me spend hours upon hours
> > pulling up websites to back up “why I say, what I say”. They don’t think
> > it’s my job to double check what someone else should have, but didn’t.
>  But
> > at the same time, they are much appreciative when I uncover information
> > about a product or therapy that they were going to try- and changed their
> > mind- because I shared what I already knew, or I showed them what I had
> > found.
> > So why do I continue to DO what I do? It’s really very simple. I made
> > myself a promise that if I ever found my way out of this blackened
> > fun-house maze of mirrors of no answers- that if I was ever fortunate
> > enough to get to the point where I at least felt human, that I would
> share
> > what I had learned for free.
> > If I could help even just one person out there, avoid all the mistakes I
> > made, if I could help just one person not get ripped off again, if I
> could
> > help one person find enough answers to give them enough energy to keep
> > going, enough focus and hope to not stop trying-then my journey to hell
> and
> > back would all be worth it.
> > Years ago when my health took a dive- I spent a lot of money, a lot of
> time
> > in Dr’s offices, more time and an outrageous amount of money spent on
> > alternative
> > practitioners offices. What I got for all of that- was frustrated and
> even
> > more tired. And more sick.  What I didn’t get, were answers that worked.
> > ....................Oh sure, out of 13 places I sought help at, I picked
> up
> > one or two pieces of the puzzle. But for the most part, it took me
> digging
> > into the research and spending literally thousands of hours reading and
> > wading thru the information, to find answers that worked. It then took
> me,
> > being my own guinea pig, trying out different products, and different
> > combinations to find those things that did work. Now double this time and
> > money factor, being spent in the ES areas. I had to know more than my
> > Electrician. And I had to learn to look at my house complete
> differently. I
> > had to learn from the ground up.
> > What I found was this: ES is such a mixed bag that in entails more than
> > just knowing about the Thyroid and the Adrenals and how they affect the
> > body. ES involves more than just knowing about nutrition. More than just
> > knowing about heavy metals or silver mercury fillings or about chelation
> > and detox remedies.  And then there’s root canals and crowns.
> > ES runs the gamut of everything inside the body, outside the body, in
> your
> > house, in your sleeping areas, in the wiring of the house, to the
> > appliances you use, to the water you drink, and even in how the water
> > supply enters  the house. To the products you buy, to the dishes and pots
> > and pans you use- and even in the clothing you wear. ES factors play a
> role
> > in the areas surrounding your house with: cell towers/ antennas/ smart
> > meters/ substations/ railroad trains/ geopathic stress/ wifi/ geologic
> rock
> > and mineral deposits in your area/subterranean bodies of water/  whether
> > the power lines are over head or buried/ to loose or broken insulators on
> > the utility power poles/ and even to how old the infrastructure “is” in
> the
> > area you live in.
> > All of these are completely separate subjects within themselves. But all
> of
> > these factors played a huge role in my journey.
> > My situation  included  so many  extra bells and whistles- translate
> that  to:
> > dangerous alone- four or five of these situations together- and you’ve
> gone
> > way past the alarm level.  And...... what I had to learn to do for myself
> > in the health crisis areas, I also had to do for my young daughter, who
> was
> > also suffering from ES.
> > It would have been so much easier if I could have found one book that
> > covered in detail, all of the above areas. It would have been so much
> > easier if I had found the correct Thyroid and Adrenal information from
> the
> > get go. And it would have been so much easier, if I’d have known someone
> > else who’d already been down this winding and twisting road. Someone who
> > didn’t mind me pestering them for help. Someone who didn’t mind me asking
> > them question after question after question. Someone who was as fluent in
> > thyroid and adrenals, as they were fluent in nutrition, or detox, vital
> > minerals, or cleanses, or safe silver filling procedures,  or magnet
> > therapy, or essential oil therapy, or baking soda, or candida, or house
> > wiring, or the old knob and tube wiring, or DSL high speed internet, or
> > boiler heat and the list goes on and on.
> > But I didn’t. So this is why I continue to “To Do What I Do”. Because
> it’s
> > the only thing that makes my journey bearable; to know that someone else
> > will helped by what I had to learn- the hard way.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> **
>
>
> On August 27, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I know Lizzie has a daughter - her daughter is also sick and has ?ES -
> > I hope Lizzie won't mind me posting this but the daughter's dad wasn't
> > a believer in ES to the point that Lizzie gave me to believe that that
> > was the reason he bailed out - so I doubt he would be much in the way
> > of help to her ES affected daughter.
>
> It doesn't matter -- Lizzie's daughter moved to another state a month
> prior to Lizzie's death. Also, as we know, Lizzie was an anti-Smart Meter
> activist, but it appears from my snooping around on the Internet that
> her ex-husband worked for the electrical utility company!
>
> Marc
>
>