new to group

I've newly become electrically-sensitive due to using one of the products
from the Earthing Co. This was supposed to be protective, but resulted in
massive overexposure to what, I don't know altogether. I'm trying to
comprehend what is happening to me, and I feel afraid, because I seem to be
reacting to so many things. I have Stetzer filters in my house now, which
seems to help, but going anywhere else is kind of a nightmare. Just needing
to connect with people that will understand that I am not crazy. Is there a
hotline anywhere with someone I could talk to? Thanks for your help...


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What was it from the Earthing Co that you used?
No, you're not crazy. We are ten million strong and growing
by the day.
Lizzie
 


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:40:58 -0700
Subject: [eSens] new to group


 



I've newly become electrically-sensitive due to using one of the products
from the Earthing Co. This was supposed to be protective, but resulted in
massive overexposure to what, I don't know altogether. I'm trying to
comprehend what is happening to me, and I feel afraid, because I seem to be
reacting to so many things. I have Stetzer filters in my house now, which
seems to help, but going anywhere else is kind of a nightmare. Just needing
to connect with people that will understand that I am not crazy. Is there a
hotline anywhere with someone I could talk to? Thanks for your help...

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--- On Thu, 3/31/11, Denise Getz <[hidden email]> wrote:


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From: Denise Getz <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 10:40 PM


 



I've newly become electrically-sensitive due to using one of the products
from the Earthing Co. This was supposed to be protective, but resulted in
massive overexposure to what, I don't know altogether. I'm trying to
comprehend what is happening to me, and I feel afraid, because I seem to be
reacting to so many things. I have Stetzer filters in my house now, which
seems to help, but going anywhere else is kind of a nightmare. Just needing
to connect with people that will understand that I am not crazy. Is there a
hotline anywhere with someone I could talk to? Thanks for your help...

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Hi Denise,
 
My name is Pam.  I came down with this EHS thing about 3 or so years ago.  I believe it was the over exposure to my cell phone that caused my explosion of symptoms.  But everything happened around the same time.  I got the phone in August 2007, moved to Newark NJ with first residential exposure to WIFI and the entire area was so highly irradiated everything seem to hit at once.  Shortly thereafter, I started feeling cell towers (and was able to show them to friends and family who never noticed them before (still happens).  Then once I moved out of Newark 4 months later...I went to a heavy geo-stressed area and the next thing I knew I was feeling the cell phones of others.  That's continued until this day.
 
Do you feel other people's cell phones?  Can you touch a cell phone? What type of device do you believe made you sick?   Are you in the US?  Could you have been exposed to Smart Meters or some other insidious radiation source/s that you may not be aware of?
 
I wish you the answers you seek as soon as possible. Sincerely, Pam


--- On Thu, 3/31/11, Denise Getz <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Denise Getz <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 10:40 PM


 



I've newly become electrically-sensitive due to using one of the products
from the Earthing Co. This was supposed to be protective, but resulted in
massive overexposure to what, I don't know altogether. I'm trying to
comprehend what is happening to me, and I feel afraid, because I seem to be
reacting to so many things. I have Stetzer filters in my house now, which
seems to help, but going anywhere else is kind of a nightmare. Just needing
to connect with people that will understand that I am not crazy. Is there a
hotline anywhere with someone I could talk to? Thanks for your help...

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> I've newly become electrically-sensitive due to using one of the products
> from the Earthing Co. This was supposed to be protective, but resulted in
> massive overexposure to what, I don't know altogether.

Yes, I found the Earthing mattress sheet to make things worse for me as
well, at least if I made direct contact with it.  Seems okay to have it
on the side of the bed, where it might intercept some EMF and move it
to the ground rather than let it get to you.

I suspect these things are bad because:

  a) they make you part of the "path to ground", so that all EMF is
     attracted to you

  b) they expose you to a polluted ground connection, loaded with
     high frequencies

Marc

Yes, it was a mat that was supposed to be EMF protective from the Earthing Company. When I began using this product, I was only very mildly EMF sensitive. After using it for a few weeks, and getting some very frightening symptoms (terrible headaches and severe eye pain, tinnitus, itching, nausea), I finally traced this to the Earthing mat, and I've been hypersensitive since then. I also have found three others so far who were made ill by this product. But, the Earthing people insist that it's safe and effective. It's not!!

Thanks to all of you who've written to me on this forum and also privately. I am extremely grateful for the support here.

I guess it's just part of the territory to have to become a researcher into all of these matters, and I've begun that with a will. I need to get well.

Thanks to you all,
Denise

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

Hi, Denise
Here some more info for you.
Best
Giles
Electro-Sensitivity
(ES)

Electro-sensitive
people suffer from a variety of symptoms in close vicinity to electromagnetic
fields, Wifi, mobiles, DECT phones, baby monitors, certain light sources etc:
Headaches, dizziness, chest palpations, tinnitus, sweating at night. skin
irritations, pins and needles in the hands in the mornings, short-term memory
loss, nauseas, joint aches and pressures at the back of the head as well as in
the sinus or forehead area.

 

Even if you are
not ES, it is beneficial to turn off your Wifi over night, as well as to ban
electrical items, your cordless phones and mobiles from your bedroom. You will
sleep much better and are less likely to have an interrupted sleep pattern.
Usually waking around 4 am.

 

Another simple test is to stop carrying your mobile
on your body (chest or trouser pockets). in many cases people experience the
so-called “phantom text messages”. This describes a situation where every now
and then you think you had a text message, when keeping the phone in your pockets,
but when you checked there was no message. Some even suffer from heart
palpitations. If that is case, just try for a while to carry your mobile in a
bag or switch it off, while you have it in your pocket.

 

If you want to
find out more:

www.es-uk.info/ 

www.magdahavas.com
(Canadian website)

http://electromagnetichealth.org/audio-archives-and-more/

www.electrosensitivity.org

www.weepinitiative.com (Canadian website)

http://www.feb.se/FEB/feb_techman.html
(Swedish website)

http://fullsignalmovie.com/index.html

http://safeantenna.org/

http://www.radiationresearch.org/

http://www.mastsanity.org/home.html

http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/

http://www.mast-victims.org/

Recent articles in the press:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/mobile-phone-radiation-wrecks-your-sleep-771262.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318992/Mobile-phone-health-risk-Phone-giants-accused-burying-warnings-handsets-small-print.html

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7725169/Landmark-study-set-to-show-potential-dangers-of-heavy-mobile-phone-use.html

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article7127799.ece

 

http://www.gq.com/cars-gear/gear-and-gadgets/201002/warning-cell-phone-radiation?currentPage=1

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthcomment/geoffrey-lean/6175172/Mobiles-and-cancer-the-plot-thickens.html

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6805895.e

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/61725/Is-wi-fi-putting-our-children-in-danger-





--- On Sun, 3/4/11, Denise Getz <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Denise Getz <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 3 April, 2011, 19:01















 
 



 


   
     
     
      Yes, it was a mat that was supposed to be EMF protective from the Earthing Company. When I began using this product, I was only very mildly EMF sensitive. After using it for a few weeks, and getting some very frightening symptoms (terrible headaches and severe eye pain, tinnitus, itching, nausea), I finally traced this to the Earthing mat, and I've been hypersensitive since then. I also have found three others so far who were made ill by this product. But, the Earthing people insist that it's safe and effective. It's not!!



Thanks to all of you who've written to me on this forum and also privately. I am extremely grateful for the support here.



I guess it's just part of the territory to have to become a researcher into all of these matters, and I've begun that with a will. I need to get well.



Thanks to you all,

Denise



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> What was it from the Earthing Co that you used?

> No, you're not crazy. We are ten million strong and growing

> by the day.

> Lizzie

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> To: [hidden email]

> From: denisegetz@...

> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:40:58 -0700

> Subject: [eSens] new to group

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> I've newly become electrically-sensitive due to using one of the products

> from the Earthing Co. This was supposed to be protective, but resulted in

> massive overexposure to what, I don't know altogether. I'm trying to

> comprehend what is happening to me, and I feel afraid, because I seem to be

> reacting to so many things. I have Stetzer filters in my house now, which

> seems to help, but going anywhere else is kind of a nightmare. Just needing

> to connect with people that will understand that I am not crazy. Is there a

> hotline anywhere with someone I could talk to? Thanks for your help...

>

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EMF protection is really difficult.  You think you've escaped one pit only to fall into another one.  That's happened to me many times.  

Yep, grounding is dangerous if done in a high-electrical environment, because then you may become the target of the electrical fields looking to get grounded (whether through visible wires or unseen wires under the flooring and behind the walls).  Additionally the electrical ground is not exactly the same as the earth, and could potentially carry voltage as well, so it's dangerous to connect to the electrical ground.

Btw, I heard that Graham-Stetzer filters don't really work.  They also add their own frequencies onto the wire.  If you use an AM radio on AM setting, you can detect it.

What you need to do is fix the problem at the source -- e.g., replace CFL's with incandescent, replace dimmer switches with regular dipole switches, replace plasma TV's with LCD TV's, etc.  For a more comprehensive list, see http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php


--- In [hidden email], "Denise Getz" <denisegetz@...> wrote:

Oh that's interesting! I'm glad I sent my grounding mat back. I live in an area with close to 300 antennas near by. So for me going out in my yard in my bare feet might be more injurious to me?
 
Loni
 


--- On Sun, 4/3/11, emraware <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: emraware <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 3:11 PM


 



EMF protection is really difficult. You think you've escaped one pit only to fall into another one. That's happened to me many times.

Yep, grounding is dangerous if done in a high-electrical environment, because then you may become the target of the electrical fields looking to get grounded (whether through visible wires or unseen wires under the flooring and behind the walls). Additionally the electrical ground is not exactly the same as the earth, and could potentially carry voltage as well, so it's dangerous to connect to the electrical ground.

Btw, I heard that Graham-Stetzer filters don't really work. They also add their own frequencies onto the wire. If you use an AM radio on AM setting, you can detect it.

What you need to do is fix the problem at the source -- e.g., replace CFL's with incandescent, replace dimmer switches with regular dipole switches, replace plasma TV's with LCD TV's, etc. For a more comprehensive list, see http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php

--- In [hidden email], "Denise Getz" <denisegetz@...> wrote:








     

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> Oh that's interesting! I'm glad I sent my grounding mat back. I live in
> an area with close to 300 antennas near by. So for me going out in my
> yard in my bare feet might be more injurious to me?

Presumably that would be okay... :-)

And presumably an Earthing grounding mat connected to a stake
in the soil would be okay as well.  However, many of us connect
our grounding mats to the ground pin in a nearby power outlet,
which isn't exactly the same thing... who knows what kind of
frequencies are riding on your ground wires...

Marc

No, you wouldn't want to ground in an area with 300 antennas nearby.  As you say, that could be more injurious.  I would prefer only to ground in an area with low EMF to begin with.  


--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
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> Oh that's interesting! I'm glad I sent my grounding mat back. I live in an area with close to 300 antennas near by. So for me going out in my yard in my bare feet might be more injurious to me?
>  
> Loni
>  

>who knows what kind of frequencies are riding on your ground wires...
 
Well I'm wondering if this is why my y shield paint in the master is not working because the Building Biologist ran the silver tape around the room & then grounded it to the outlet. I paid $2,000 for that job & can't sleep in there even with the electric turned off.
 
Any ideas?  Loni



--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 11:39 AM


 



> Oh that's interesting! I'm glad I sent my grounding mat back. I live in
> an area with close to 300 antennas near by. So for me going out in my
> yard in my bare feet might be more injurious to me?

Presumably that would be okay... :-)

And presumably an Earthing grounding mat connected to a stake
in the soil would be okay as well. However, many of us connect
our grounding mats to the ground pin in a nearby power outlet,
which isn't exactly the same thing... who knows what kind of
frequencies are riding on your ground wires...

Marc








     

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I have been told by a power quality specialist, that it isn't necessarily safe to plug a grounding mat into the ground either. Apparently a large percentage of our power supply in the US is returned to the substations via the earth. So, there are ground currents that can be drawn inside and into the body via these so-called grounding mats.

Please be very careful if you are using one of these, and even if you feel it is a good thing for you. This product has devastated my health, and I feel obligated to caution others.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

I am struggling with the same thing (copper painted bedroom). I am  
now experimenting with microwave absorbing material. I'll have the  
drapes finished in a few weeks and will let you know if it makes a  
difference.
In the mean time, please make sure as much as possible is turned off  
so there is no electricity getting into that room. Check for  
electrical fields off the walls/shielding paint which will reveal/  
signify there is current running into the room from somewhere.
Andrew

On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Loni wrote:

Andrew McAfee
Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)

919.787.3022 (home)
919.962-2492 (office)

[hidden email]
www.hornlessons.org






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Hey Guys,

Do you know that the static electricity could emphasis your sensibility ?


Roberto


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From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 1:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: new to group/Grounding

 
I am struggling with the same thing (copper painted bedroom). I am
now experimenting with microwave absorbing material. I'll have the
drapes finished in a few weeks and will let you know if it makes a
difference.
In the mean time, please make sure as much as possible is turned off
so there is no electricity getting into that room. Check for
electrical fields off the walls/shielding paint which will reveal/
signify there is current running into the room from somewhere.
Andrew

On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Loni wrote:

Andrew McAfee
Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)

919.787.3022 (home)
919.962-2492 (office)

[hidden email]
www.hornlessons.org

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I don't have a meter to measure anything. I just know I'm still frying in there. Let me know about the drapes. Loni

--- On Tue, 4/5/11, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: new to group/Grounding
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 10:12 AM


 



I am struggling with the same thing (copper painted bedroom). I am
now experimenting with microwave absorbing material. I'll have the
drapes finished in a few weeks and will let you know if it makes a
difference.
In the mean time, please make sure as much as possible is turned off
so there is no electricity getting into that room. Check for
electrical fields off the walls/shielding paint which will reveal/
signify there is current running into the room from somewhere.
Andrew

On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Loni wrote:

Andrew McAfee
Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet
Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007)

919.787.3022 (home)
919.962-2492 (office)

[hidden email]
www.hornlessons.org

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Thank you for that-I was going to order one soon and now I'm not going to.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], "Denise Getz" <denisegetz@...> wrote:

Yes it seems to have the opposite effect somehow. Not good. However I talked to someone that did find it useful. Loni

--- On Wed, 4/6/11, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 9:13 AM


 



Thank you for that-I was going to order one soon and now I'm not going to.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], "Denise Getz" <denisegetz@...> wrote:








     

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