new to group

That is so very strange-our similar circumstances in life Amy! Gee, you
don't have a husband named Dave do ya?! ;)

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Amy -- Yup, uncanny! I do have fibromyalgia (although I had it for years
before the other problems hit), plus hashimoto's and adrenal fatigue. The
light sensitivity started when the thyroid and adrenal stuff started. I'm sure
it's connected, I just don't know how. I am much more sensitive to lights
in the morning, a bit less in the afternoon and even less in the evening.
That's an adrenal pattern, so I'm guessing the connection may be adrenal,
but I don't know and doctor's seem to have no idea. Is there a general
consensus on this forum for what causes fluorescent light problems??

BTW -- I also used to homeschool -- and I too had to quit teaching Sunday
School as well because of the lights and my general health issues. Strange
world isn't it??

Amy

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To: _eSens@yahoogroups.eSe_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:54:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group

I was going to add that it's uncanny how similar our situations are. I too

have thyroid issues, and got sensitive around the same time, although it
took me around 11 years to figure out what was making me feel so bad. The
doctors just said "fibromyalgia" , hashimoto's and fatigue. So not only do
we
share a name but similar unfortunate circumstances. While I wasn't a
teacher
(except a homeschool one and we have no fluorescents here!) I was teaching
Sunday School but had to stop that because of the lights, too.
Were you ever diagnosed w/fibro too?
Amy

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session.

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In a message dated 5/3/2009 1:17:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
amygreen53@yahoo. com writes:

I'm new to this group, but really glad I found you! For the past 3 years,
I
have had a terrible time with fluorescent lights. They make me feel weak,
dizzy, disoriented and terribly anxious. It started when my health crashed
with what seems to be endocrine (thyroid and adrenal problems), but as
those labs have improved, my problems with fluorescent lights have not.
The
problem is worse in the morning than it is in the evening. Stores are
virtually impossible to manage. I was a teacher and the last year I
taught, I had
to keep the lights off and just let the students work by natural light
coming in the windows. I LOVE teaching, but have had to quit, not only
because
of the light problem, but the health mess in general. Before getting sick,
I
had no problems with the lights ever. Sometimes the sun bothers me, but
not too badly because I spend a lot of time at the beach and can usually
manage without sunglasses. I don't know anyone else with this
problem and am so tired of trying to explain it to people. : (

I would really appreciate any advice y'all can give. Thanks! Amy

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Nope : ) What kind of treatment are you getting for the hashimoto's? Amy




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That is so very strange-our similar circumstances in life Amy! Gee, you
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In a message dated 5/4/2009 3:18:04 PM GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

The beach is good for many of us because it has various elements of good
health that we don't get indoors. At the beach, we get fresh air (good
for oxygenating the body which helps the immune system), sunshine (good
for Vitamin D), a high amount of negative ions (which are good for
health), plus I suspect being exposed to the natural salt on the ocean
beach also helps a bit with mineral deficiencies


I heard also that mobile phone masts dont tend to beam out to sea so "some"
beaches will be less radiated that is assuming that they are not wifi-d or
stacks of people using their mobiles nearby

puk


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Hi Amy,
 
I can't remember the brand of chelation I used way back when I was much sicker than I am now as that was in the early 1990's. However, I now use the one from "Health Resources" (www.healthresources.net) 1-800-471-4007 to order, or order online. This seems to be a very good brand. Allergy to metal does seem to be one one the symptoms of Electrical sensitivity. A book I readthat convinced me that that was my problem is "Electrical Sensitivity" by Lucinda Grant. That may answer many questions you may have. It is the best book I have found on this subject. Good luck with your healing process. I know from my own experiences how difficult it can be.
 
Cheryl

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Amy Green <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Amy Green <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 8:30 AM








Cheryl -- Wow, you've really been through it! What kind of chelation stuff did the health food store owner give you? I just bought an intestinal cleanse kit and I do have some milk thistle (that I've never used). I can't wearwatches that have any kind of metal in them or I get a real itchy rash where the metal touches -- same for earrings etc. Would that be at all connected?

I have also read the Adrenal Fatigue book. It's wonderful. His program and supplements brought me from low cortisol levels up to pretty much normal levels -- but it didn't solve all my health issues, so I'm trying to dig deeper than just adrenals.

Thanks! Amy

____________ _________ _________ __

Hence I had metal poisoning so severe that by the age of 35 I was often so weak that I was in bed all day. Of course at that time I had no clue why I was so sick. Fortunatly a very knowledgeable health food store owner told me what was wrong and sold me chelation. I believe that she saved my life asno doctor would have ever diagnosed me with metal poisoning in all likelihood. I noticed that whenever I toched metal my skin broke out in terrible red
rashes and I had to give up using silverware due to this. Has anyone else experienced this? Hope this info helps.

Cheryl

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Hi Amy
 
My detoxing hasn't got very far beyond trying to improve my diet and nutrition and consciously reduce my exposure to chemicals and EMFs where possible- and I'm very much a learner on the subject - there are many others on this site who know a lot more about that subject than I ever will!!  which is why it would be worth having a look at posts in the archive. Having saidthat I have tried some supplements in the last couple of months which havehelped. I have introduced calcium and magnesium - I'm taking 800mg calciumin 2 400mg doses on in the am and one in the pm and 200mg magnesium at night - these have helped with pain in muscles and joints. Diane on this forum[aka Evie] recommends a supplement called calcium AEP which she says has helped her greatly. I have also added 1000mcg of vitamin B12 and am taking 1000mcg of Vitamin D3 - I started out with a low level of the vit D3 becauseI haven't had my blood levels tested and it is important to do that
regularly if you are taking vitamin D -i'm having the tests done shortly and will prob up the dosage depending on those results. I have also been advised to try melatonin but am having difficulty sourcing that in the UK since health stores aren't allowed to sell it here.I'm also goint to try to getan appointment with a holistic dentist to look at the prospect of the removal of my amalgam fillings and root canals and crown - they may not make a difference to the ES but I don't like the idea of all those toxic metals inmy mouth.
 
Like you I have dreadful problems with temperature regulation. When I was working I kept the window open all year round to try to counteract the feelings I had of suffocating when I felt overheated - needless to say this did not go down well with my "cold rife" colleagues. I used to sit i work everyday with a flushed face as if permanently embarassed and had to take the layered clothing look to new levels to cope with the heat inside and then the cold outside LOL. I now find that I get dreadfully cold hands and feet - worse in winter - combined with a very flushed face in front of the computer.
 
Even when it is cold I prefer to be outdoors and ideally if I could get well enough to work again I'd prefer to do something where I was outdoors a lot of the time.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Mon, 4/5/09, Amy Green <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Amy Green <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group/Steph
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 4:23 AM








Steph -- What kind of detoxing do you do and how has it helped? I don't know much about that. I can see that you've thought this through a lot more than I have. Fluorescent lights were easy to figure out, but I never thought about things like cash registers -- although now that you mention it, checking out is the worst part of any store experience. I also never thought about cell phones and wifi etc. Hmmm.

I also get real hot! It's funny, because in the school where I taught, the students stayed in the same classroom and the teachers rotated in and out. When I would walk into the room, the students would automatically turn off the lights and open the windows. : ) Sometimes I think I froze the poor kids!

The beach is where I feel the best and thankfully I'm 30 minutes away, so Igo every weekend. I also spend a lot of time outside, because like you, I feel better there. Is that just because we are away from lights and computer etc, or is there more to it?

Thanks for the welcome. I am going to spend tomorrow poking through all theposts and trying to figure things out!

Thanks!! Amy

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 9:39:07 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group

Hi Amy

Welcome to the group - I'm glad you found us and hopefully from reading theposts here and making contacts with the other members in the group you might get some help in coping with what is a miserable and much misunderstood problem. What you describe is something that a lot of people on the forum have problems with. I too react badly to fluorescent lighting and shopping is extremely difficult - I find that being in large stores makes me feel extremely hot, with a flushed face broken out in an unsightly skin rash, and exhausted after only a short time, and exhausted and sickish the next day too. The best thing for me is avoidance - I don't shop unless I absolutely have to and try to shop in smaller stores which don't have so much of the fluoros and all the other associated paraphernalia which don't help - like thefreezers [in the supermarket] and the cash register system and the music etc and a lot of people's cell phones in an enclosed space and the
wifi in the cafe - they all add up!

The skin rash has improved somewhat for me since I started to detox in earnest, taking in more water, more fruit and veg, being more conscious that I avoid additives and try to cook my own food from scratch and drink less teaand coffee. If you go through the archives here you may find info about detoxing and problems with liver pathways [I'm no expert but others on the forum are very knowledgeable] which may be of help. I am sorry to hear you have had to give up a job which you loved because of your health. I can sympathise, since I too was forced to give up work in similar circumstances - I wouldn't say that I loved my job, but I would love to be able to go back towork and that isn't possible at the moment.

The beach is good - I try to go when I can and always feel better there - most of the time the sun helps me too - which is maybe odd, but maybe its because I feel better outdoors than I do inside.

Hope this helps a bit Amy.

Best wishes

Steph

Have you tried any supplements or anything?



--- On Sun, 3/5/09, Amy Green <amygreen53@ yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Amy Green <amygreen53@ yahoo. com>
Subject: [eSens] new to group
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, 3 May, 2009, 2:37 AM

I'm new to this group, but really glad I found you! For the past 3 years, Ihave had a terrible time with fluorescent lights. They make me feel weak, dizzy, disoriented and terribly anxious. It started when my health crashed with what seems to be endocrine (thyroid and adrenal problems), but as those labs have improved, my problems with fluorescent lights have not. The problem is worse in the morning than it is in the evening. Stores are virtually impossible to manage. I was a teacher and the last year I taught, I had to keep the lights off and just let the students work by natural light coming in the windows. I LOVE teaching, but have had to quit, not only because of the light problem, but the health mess in general. Before getting sick, Ihad no problems with the lights ever. Sometimes the sun bothers me, but not too badly because I spend a lot of time at the beach and can usually manage without sunglasses. I don't know anyone else with this
problem and am so tired of trying to explain it to people. : (

I would really appreciate any advice y'all can give. Thanks! Amy

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Hi, Amy,
 
I have not been online for awhile--my father is ill and my life has gotten more complicated recently.  I did not read yet your original post(s).  Steph has given you good advise regarding supplementation, tho, and I senseyou were asking about supplementation.  "Sweats" and getting too hot is among the many autonomic nervous system/adrenal symptoms which can be affected by es (and toxic problems in general).  For my adrenals, I have found that Calcium AEP and pantethine, taken together with a large glass of water, are the most helpful.  Also CoQ10 sublingually in high doses is very helpful.  I can actually gauge the helpfulness of these with a bp monitor, tho I imagine that this is not always the case for others.  In my experience, my blood pressure falls along with the occurence of other autonomic nervous system and adrenal symptoms.  I have written many times inthe past about the dosages, but I will be writing a post in the near future for
Christine here at this forum in which I will again mention the dosage.  Look for that post if you are interested in this.  I expect to get to this in the next 2 days, hopefully.
 
I also find D3 helpful (tho I only supplement it in the winter and rainy--ie right now--months.  lol)  I get out in the sun during the sunny days, as often as I can.  And I supplement also with B12 (I mentioned thisin a recent post to Kooky).  I am experimenting right now with manganesebut I do not recommend this for others since manganese can be, in high doses, considered a heavy metal which could cause es!  I am experimenting with it because I show signs of deficiency and it is one supplement which is associated with closing calcium ion channels.  I have not had complete success with the supplementation, tho sometimes it appears to work for this (es is much better or gone the days it works).  STILL, I do not recommend this supplement until I know more about it--there is more to consider than just closing calcium ion channels.   
 
One thing which Marc touched on recently in a post I read today was hydrogen supplementation (Mega-H, I think is Marc's brand).  Hydrogen supplementation also helps me--esp the adrenal/ autonomic nervous system symptoms.  One reason this helps possibly is hydrogen adds to negative ionization (like what you get at the ocean!)  I also do better with electrolyte supplementation in general.  I like the brand "Electro-blast" which are like little "fizzies" you put into a bottle of water.  I have only found these online, btw. 
 
Liver pathway supplementation also has helped me.  I take molybdenum (which also can be a heavy metal in excess) due to my diet not containing much (since I am gluten-free).  Like Ian's wife Sue, I had liver detox pathway dysfunctions.  Glutathione and sulphur, B12, molybdenum, and other Bs (and other things like caffeine!) all have helped me with that.  I have to be careful here to mention that liver pathway dysfunction may or may not be a factor in your es.  (Just as not all here have dysfunctional adrenals or ANS.) 
 
However, a linking factor does seem to be lymphatic issues and detoxing. Correct me (anyone reading) if anyone here does not have some sort of lymphatic or toxic problem.  Fibromyalgia is now thought by some docs to beTOTALLY a lymphatic dysfunction.  And I did see complete reversal of my fibro symptoms once I got the hang of treating my lymphatic congestion.  I do once in awhile still get fibro symptoms, but they do not last.  I used to be pretty much unable to move from non-stop fibromyalgia.  When I am in very high emf environments (high wifi, cell, or microwaves, esp) for a prolonged time period, this can bring on fibro symptoms for me, but I can get rid of my symptoms within 1 or 2 days now.  There are alot ofeasy, cost-free lymphatic helps and if I can find one of my old posts on this, I will also send it in the info for Christine.  (Christine is compiling a site with profiles of essers and things which have helped them.) 
 
Hope this helps you some, Amy,
 
Diane

--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group/Steph
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 3:45 PM








Hi Amy
 
My detoxing hasn't got very far beyond trying to improve my diet and nutrition and consciously reduce my exposure to chemicals and EMFs where possible- and I'm very much a learner on the subject - there are many others on this site who know a lot more about that subject than I ever will!!  which is why it would be worth having a look at posts in the archive. Having saidthat I have tried some supplements in the last couple of months which havehelped. I have introduced calcium and magnesium - I'm taking 800mg calciumin 2 400mg doses on in the am and one in the pm and 200mg magnesium at night - these have helped with pain in muscles and joints. Diane on this forum[aka Evie] recommends a supplement called calcium AEP which she says has helped her greatly. I have also added 1000mcg of vitamin B12 and am taking 1000mcg of Vitamin D3 - I started out with a low level of the vit D3 becauseI haven't had my blood levels tested and it is important to do that
regularly if you are taking vitamin D -i'm having the tests done shortly and will prob up the dosage depending on those results. I have also been advised to try melatonin but am having difficulty sourcing that in the UK sincehealth stores aren't allowed to sell it here.I'm also goint to try to get an appointment with a holistic dentist to look at the prospect of the removal of my amalgam fillings and root canals and crown - they may not make a difference to the ES but I don't like the idea of all those toxic metals in my mouth.
 
Like you I have dreadful problems with temperature regulation. When I was working I kept the window open all year round to try to counteract the feelings I had of suffocating when I felt overheated - needless to say this did not go down well with my "cold rife" colleagues. I used to sit i work everyday with a flushed face as if permanently embarassed and had to take the layered clothing look to new levels to cope with the heat inside and then the cold outside LOL. I now find that I get dreadfully cold hands and feet - worse in winter - combined with a very flushed face in front of the computer.
 
Even when it is cold I prefer to be outdoors and ideally if I could get well enough to work again I'd prefer to do something where I was outdoors a lot of the time.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Mon, 4/5/09, Amy Green <amygreen53@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Amy Green <amygreen53@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group/Steph
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 4:23 AM

Steph -- What kind of detoxing do you do and how has it helped? I don't know much about that. I can see that you've thought this through a lot more than I have. Fluorescent lights were easy to figure out, but I never thought about things like cash registers -- although now that you mention it, checking out is the worst part of any store experience. I also never thought about cell phones and wifi etc. Hmmm.

I also get real hot! It's funny, because in the school where I taught, the students stayed in the same classroom and the teachers rotated in and out. When I would walk into the room, the students would automatically turn off the lights and open the windows. : ) Sometimes I think I froze the poor kids!

The beach is where I feel the best and thankfully I'm 30 minutes away, so Igo every weekend. I also spend a lot of time outside, because like you, I feel better there. Is that just because we are away from lights and computer etc, or is there more to it?

Thanks for the welcome. I am going to spend tomorrow poking through all theposts and trying to figure things out!

Thanks!! Amy

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 9:39:07 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group

Hi Amy

Welcome to the group - I'm glad you found us and hopefully from reading theposts here and making contacts with the other members in the group you might get some help in coping with what is a miserable and much misunderstood problem. What you describe is something that a lot of people on the forum have problems with. I too react badly to fluorescent lighting and shopping is extremely difficult - I find that being in large stores makes me feel extremely hot, with a flushed face broken out in an unsightly skin rash, and exhausted after only a short time, and exhausted and sickish the next day too. The best thing for me is avoidance - I don't shop unless I absolutely have to and try to shop in smaller stores which don't have so much of the fluoros and all the other associated paraphernalia which don't help - like thefreezers [in the supermarket] and the cash register system and the music etc and a lot of people's cell phones in an enclosed space and the
wifi in the cafe - they all add up!

The skin rash has improved somewhat for me since I started to detox in earnest, taking in more water, more fruit and veg, being more conscious that I avoid additives and try to cook my own food from scratch and drink less teaand coffee. If you go through the archives here you may find info about detoxing and problems with liver pathways [I'm no expert but others on the forum are very knowledgeable] which may be of help. I am sorry to hear you have had to give up a job which you loved because of your health. I can sympathise, since I too was forced to give up work in similar circumstances - I wouldn't say that I loved my job, but I would love to be able to go back towork and that isn't possible at the moment.

The beach is good - I try to go when I can and always feel better there - most of the time the sun helps me too - which is maybe odd, but maybe its because I feel better outdoors than I do inside.

Hope this helps a bit Amy.

Best wishes

Steph

Have you tried any supplements or anything?

--- On Sun, 3/5/09, Amy Green <amygreen53@ yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Amy Green <amygreen53@ yahoo. com>
Subject: [eSens] new to group
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, 3 May, 2009, 2:37 AM

I'm new to this group, but really glad I found you! For the past 3 years, Ihave had a terrible time with fluorescent lights. They make me feel weak, dizzy, disoriented and terribly anxious. It started when my health crashed with what seems to be endocrine (thyroid and adrenal problems), but as those labs have improved, my problems with fluorescent lights have not. The problem is worse in the morning than it is in the evening. Stores are virtually impossible to manage. I was a teacher and the last year I taught, I had to keep the lights off and just let the students work by natural light coming in the windows. I LOVE teaching, but have had to quit, not only because of the light problem, but the health mess in general. Before getting sick, Ihad no problems with the lights ever. Sometimes the sun bothers me, but not too badly because I spend a lot of time at the beach and can usually manage without sunglasses. I don't know anyone else with this
problem and am so tired of trying to explain it to people. : (

I would really appreciate any advice y'all can give. Thanks! Amy

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Hi, Cheryl,
 
I have found polarity to be an issue in my illness too.  Do you do polarity exercises?  They seem to help me.  I can send you a site, if you don't know how to do these.  I am mcs, too, so I didn't ever see my metal reactions in the same light as you.  I am certainly not as sensitive tometals as you are (tho Loni here possibly could be).  I seem however to be an "electric magnet".  (I might be considered also a toxin magnet!)
 
Diane

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 1:42 AM








Hi,
 
This could be the possible explanation between emf sensitivity and metal poisoning, as I have understood it, having experienced both quite severely. In my case, living only 30 yards from a power tower for an extended period of time caused my body to become negatively polorized. A normal body is towards the positive end of this spectrum. As a result of the negative polorization I rapidly absorbed any metal that I touched, as metal is composed of positive ions. So my body became a metal magnet, so to speak. Hence I had metal poisoning so severe that by the age of 35 I was often so weak that I was in bed all day. Of course at that time I had no clue why I was so sick. Fortunatly a very knowledgeable health food store owner told me what was wrong and sold me chelation. I believe that she saved my life as no doctor would have ever diagnosed me with metal poisoning in all likelihood. I noticed that whenever I toched metal my skin broke out in terrible red
rashes and I had to give up using silverware due to this. Has anyone else experienced this?  Hope this info helps.
 
Cheryl

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 10:14 PM

> Is there a general consensus on this forum for what causes fluorescent
> light problems??

There is (somewhat) a consensus that EMF sensitivity has something to do
with heavy metal poisoning, typically mercury is thought to be a culprit
(with dental fillings and fish being the main sources). But I would
also consider adrenal/thyroid problems, possibly nutritional
deficiencies (perhaps iodine, or essential fatty acids, B vitamins, or
vitamin D), also a possibility is chronic low level infections (or
parasites) dragging down your immune system. These are all things that
can be checked by doctors, although I think alternative health doctors
(naturopaths, chiropracters) seem to better with this than regular
doctors, if for no other reason than they generally take their patients
more seriously, and not try to get them on anti-depressants. The
downside is that the treatments may not be covered by insurance.
The upside is that they can work, as evidenced by several people
here who have improved considerably (including myself).

Marc

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Interesting. I have to wear quality gold jewelry. If I wear substitute earrings, my ears get infected. My husband can only wear his wedding ring for ashort period of time before he gets a rash. I wonder if we have metal poisoning? I've been very slighly chelating myself, but not my husband.

About 4 years ago, my son, who used to have autism, got headaches from metal silverware. I've been chelating him for about 3 years. Now, he's only slighly bothered by metal spoons at times. I wonder if it's coincidence or a true correlation.

Christine Hoch

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[hidden email] writes:

Nope : ) What kind of treatment are you getting for the hashimoto's? Amy


Nothing, really. My doctor refuses to put me on anything other than
synthroid, even though I still have some symptoms. Every time I move (which is
quite a lot) I can never find a doc that will allow me to do anything other
than that. I really have to try harder on this next move!
How about you?
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Armour. I have a gynecologist who is a DO and they just seem a lot more open to more alternative stuff than MD's -- he doesn't like Synthroid and much prefers Armour. I'm up to 60mg (which is like 100mcg of Synthroid). I still have some symptoms too, although with each raise I feel a little better. He also has me taking zinc and selenium -- they both help convert T4 to T3 apparently. Some folks say that selenium also helps lessen the antibody attack we're getting with the hashimotos. Royal jelly is supposed to help with that too, although I've never tried it.

Sometimes the best way to find alternative doctors is to ask pharmacists -- especially compounding pharmacists. They know who are the docs who can think outside the box.
Amy




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amygreen53@yahoo. com writes:

Nope : ) What kind of treatment are you getting for the hashimoto's? Amy

Nothing, really. My doctor refuses to put me on anything other than
synthroid, even though I still have some symptoms. Every time I move (which is
quite a lot) I can never find a doc that will allow me to do anything other
than that. I really have to try harder on this next move!
How about you?
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Hi Amy
 
the problem with the watch and the earrings [do you mean expensive gold or platinum ones or cheaper ones you buy at an accessories shop?] could be an allergy to the nickel or nickel alloys used in their manufacture - just a thought
 
Best wishes
 
Steph
 


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From: Amy Green <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] new to group
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Cheryl -- Wow, you've really been through it! What kind of chelation stuff did the health food store owner give you? I just bought an intestinal cleanse kit and I do have some milk thistle (that I've never used). I can't wearwatches that have any kind of metal in them or I get a real itchy rash where the metal touches -- same for earrings etc. Would that be at all connected?

I have also read the Adrenal Fatigue book. It's wonderful. His program and supplements brought me from low cortisol levels up to pretty much normal levels -- but it didn't solve all my health issues, so I'm trying to dig deeper than just adrenals.

Thanks! Amy

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Hence I had metal poisoning so severe that by the age of 35 I was often so weak that I was in bed all day. Of course at that time I had no clue why I was so sick. Fortunatly a very knowledgeable health food store owner told me what was wrong and sold me chelation. I believe that she saved my life asno doctor would have ever diagnosed me with metal poisoning in all likelihood. I noticed that whenever I toched metal my skin broke out in terrible red
rashes and I had to give up using silverware due to this. Has anyone else experienced this? Hope this info helps.

Cheryl

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