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Gruendg
Hello,
I am new in this list an would like to introduce myself. I live in germany in
the south near Stuttgart. I am not electrosensitiv. But as a medical doctorI
have to deal with patients who also sometimes complain about symptoms caused
by EMF.Through elektroacupuncture I can clearly measure the biological
negative effect of various elektromagnetic radiations. So far a mobile at your ear
ist worst. Through electroacupunkture I could find some things, that cancprevent
the negative effekt of EMF. I also can confirm, that intoxication with
mercury and other heavy metals greatly can increase the electrosensitivity to the
degree, that other means that usually help are not sufficient any more in these
people.

Through my research into the nature of electrosmog via electroacupuncture  I
developed an new and wider understandig about the true nature of electrosmog
and its negative biological effects. This might be discussed later.
Greetings
Dietrich Gruen


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Re: new member

Marc Martin
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> Through electroacupunkture I could find some things, that cancprevent
> the negative effekt of EMF.

Welcome!

I agree that Electroacupuncture According to Voll (aka "EAV testing" or
"Electrodermal Screening") can be very useful for one's recovery from a
number of chronic illnesses. I currently see someone once a month who
tests me for supplements and EMF devices to keep my recovery going along
smoothly.

However, as with all professions, there are some people who are good at
this kind of testing, and some who are not. I saw 2 people prior to the
person I'm seeing now that weren't good, which gave me the impression
that this wasn't a useful form of testing. But now I know that it is
useful if you can find someone who knows what they are doing!

My EAV tester is energy sensitive, and claims that she can feel the
energy emitting from some of the devices I have brought in. So at least
I don't have to worry about her being skeptical about these devices...
:-)

Marc

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RE: new member

Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
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How fantastic to have a doctor on the list who is interested in ES.

Sarah


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Hello,
I am new in this list an would like to introduce myself. I live in germany in
the south near Stuttgart. I am not electrosensitiv. But as a medical doctorI
have to deal with patients who also sometimes complain about symptoms caused
by EMF.Through elektroacupuncture I can clearly measure the biological
negative effect of various elektromagnetic radiations. So far a mobile at your ear
ist worst. Through electroacupunkture I could find some things, that cancprevent
the negative effekt of EMF. I also can confirm, that intoxication with
mercury and other heavy metals greatly can increase the electrosensitivity to the
degree, that other means that usually help are not sufficient any more in these
people.

Through my research into the nature of electrosmog via electroacupuncture  I
developed an new and wider understandig about the true nature of electrosmog
and its negative biological effects. This might be discussed later. Greetings Dietrich Gruen


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ADSL lines

yldiz
Hi all,

I had a problem with my PC and some of my mails got lost. So,sorry if there were any mails sent for me and I could not answer.
I have a question. I was using dial-up connection previously. I decided to switch to ADSL connection and we were trying to get me connected for the last couple of days. I noticed that I got quite stressed during this period. I am really not sure if this was due to the stress of the operation or if it was due to the magnetic field generated by ADSL modem sitting besides me .I wanted to check this with you. ADSL will be quite cost effective for me but If it is producing high level of magnetic field I may decide not to use it. Do you have any info on that?If this type is not good for us which type of connection would be the best?Or isn't there any differance betwen the three?
I have three options
dial up
connection through TV lines
adsl

Thanks very much in advance.

Nil



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Re: ADSL lines

Nikolaj Holtermann
Dear Nil,

I just tried to measure magnetic field levels from my ADSL-connection, and as I see it they were "rather small". I would say the connection on the spot increased background levels from 20 to 40 nT (=0.4 milliGauss), and this increase faded away at a distance of ~20 cm.

You may experience problems from harmonics from this phone connection spreading to your PC-system, as "incoherent, noisy" electricity can be a result of mixing different line infrastructures - water, heat, TV cable, telephone, electricity, each of them pciks up hum from the others and results in harmonics from superimposed frequencies. www.amak.se work with and write about this.

Nikolaj

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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] ADSL lines


Hi all,

I had a problem with my PC and some of my mails got lost. So,sorry if there were any mails sent for me and I could not answer.
I have a question. I was using dial-up connection previously. I decided to switch to ADSL connection and we were trying to get me connected for the last couple of days. I noticed that I got quite stressed during this period. I am really not sure if this was due to the stress of the operation or if it was due to the magnetic field generated by ADSL modem sitting besides me .I wanted to check this with you. ADSL will be quite cost effective for me but If it is producing high level of magnetic field I may decide not to use it. Do you have any info on that?If this type is not good for us which type of connection would be the best?Or isn't there any differance betwen the three?
I have three options
dial up
connection through TV lines
adsl

Thanks very much in advance.

Nil



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Re: ADSL lines

yldiz
Thanks very much Nikolaj.This was very helpful.
Nil
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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] ADSL lines


Dear Nil,

I just tried to measure magnetic field levels from my ADSL-connection, and as I see it they were "rather small". I would say the connection on the spot increased background levels from 20 to 40 nT (=0.4 milliGauss), and


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