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SArjuna
Does anyone here have a meter that indicates negative ion concentration
in air? I would very much like to know just how effective these salt lamps
are, and whether boiling salt water or heating salt in the oven, or whatever,
does the same thing. Objectively, I mean. (It seems different people
are reporting very different experiences.)

Thanks,
Shivani


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charles-4
Hello Shivani,

I do have an air ion counter.

And I have counted the air ions coming from those salt lamps.
I found zilch.
None.

On the other hand, I have found that the present negative air ions are
killed by the electrosmog.

from a distance of 200 meters from a mobile phone mast and then at a
distance of 60 meters, only 50 % are remaining.
The same goes for a cordless DECT phone at 1 meter to 15 cm; 50 % wasted.

Many years ago, we had some 3.000-4.000 negative air ions per cm3; nowadays
that amounts to 300-400 per cm3.
In the vicinity of phone masts that number may go down to 100 and even 80
per cm3.

The negative air ions work like an air police.
They attach to dust particles, polls and virusses.
Because they are in so little numbers, they can not catch all virusses.
So virusses can go freely through the air, many kilometers.
See?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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Subject: [eSens] neg. ions from salt


> Does anyone here have a meter that indicates negative ion
> concentration
> in air? I would very much like to know just how effective these salt
> lamps
> are, and whether boiling salt water or heating salt in the oven, or
> whatever,
> does the same thing. Objectively, I mean. (It seems different
> people
> are reporting very different experiences.)
>
> Thanks,
> Shivani

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snoshoe_2
Hey Charles,

If you have a gas stove, could you do a check with seriously boiling
water, (which is going to add some), and then one with say a quart of
water and a half cup or more of salt? (Grey celtic solar dried, is
what I used.)

That might make a difference. I have gas stove, and fireplace, but I
don't have any gizmos for testing. Just know what works for my body.

That might answer the question,

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote:

>
> Hello Shivani,
>
> I do have an air ion counter.
>
> And I have counted the air ions coming from those salt lamps.
> I found zilch.
> None.
>
> On the other hand, I have found that the present negative air ions
are
> killed by the electrosmog.
>

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perla1133
Hi charles,
Seconcd this, since you have the equipment, try boiling sea salt and whatever salts, even salt crystals to the cords of the elec. that is eliminating the ione\s or neg. ions (did go to univ. have the 3 DeGREES, not on this..i majored :))??!! heart heart heart//

Please experiment for us (i would send a pouty mouth picture if only something raTHER.. (scanners and stuff, maybe one day,,.//
]
oH HOW BOUT THE CANLDE ONES ( SALTY HOLDERS) for waxine lights??

Love and juniper beans, oh fresh curcuma ( cannot think of it go with latinish curcumine is soooo fine) come on it is it is aahh eating a root now to remind od the word, it is colouring my teeth orange it is (sorry it does not arrive, people like it on this board (curcuma longa in latin Whoa... ok gonna send it any way

Guys i have been symptom free in the city fot the first time! Oh it is so good thanks and praise to the Lord.. (hey Bob Marley got IT, like reggae listen them lyrics them


I and i

STARLIGHT


(pearl)
snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey Charles,

If you have a gas stove, could you do a check with seriously boiling
water, (which is going to add some), and then one with say a quart of
water and a half cup or more of salt? (Grey celtic solar dried, is
what I used.)

That might make a difference. I have gas stove, and fireplace, but I
don't have any gizmos for testing. Just know what works for my body.

That might answer the question,

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote:

>
> Hello Shivani,
>
> I do have an air ion counter.
>
> And I have counted the air ions coming from those salt lamps.
> I found zilch.
> None.
>
> On the other hand, I have found that the present negative air ions
are
> killed by the electrosmog.
>





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What??


> Hi charles,
> Seconcd this, since you have the equipment, try boiling sea salt and
> whatever salts, even salt crystals to the cords of the elec. that is
> eliminating the ione\s or neg. ions (did go to univ. have the 3
> DeGREES, not on this..i majored :))??!! heart heart heart//
>
> Please experiment for us (i would send a pouty mouth picture if only
> something raTHER.. (scanners and stuff, maybe one day,,.//
> ]
> oH HOW BOUT THE CANLDE ONES ( SALTY HOLDERS) for waxine lights??
>
> Love and juniper beans, oh fresh curcuma ( cannot think of it go with
> latinish curcumine is soooo fine) come on it is it is aahh eating a root
> now to remind od the word, it is colouring my teeth orange it is (sorry
> it does not arrive, people like it on this board (curcuma longa in latin
> Whoa... ok gonna send it any way
>
> Guys i have been symptom free in the city fot the first time! Oh it is
> so good thanks and praise to the Lord.. (hey Bob Marley got IT, like
> reggae listen them lyrics them
>
>
> I and i
>
> STARLIGHT
>
>
> (pearl)
> snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hey Charles,
>
> If you have a gas stove, could you do a check with seriously boiling
> water, (which is going to add some), and then one with say a quart of
> water and a half cup or more of salt? (Grey celtic solar dried, is
> what I used.)
>
> That might make a difference. I have gas stove, and fireplace, but I
> don't have any gizmos for testing. Just know what works for my body.
>
> That might answer the question,
>
> ~ Snoshoe
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Shivani,
>>
>> I do have an air ion counter.
>>
>> And I have counted the air ions coming from those salt lamps.
>> I found zilch.
>> None.
>>
>> On the other hand, I have found that the present negative air ions
> are
>> killed by the electrosmog.
>>
>
>
>
>
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Emil at Less EMF Inc
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Yes, we have them. Air Ion Counter measures + and - ion concentration in
air. See http://www.lessemf.com/unique.html#156

Though I don't expect a salt lamp or any other lump of salt to emit
negative ions. After all, how do you explain all the positive ions that
would be left behind?

Emil

> Does anyone here have a meter that indicates negative ion
> concentration
> in air? I would very much like to know just how effective these salt
> lamps
> are, and whether boiling salt water or heating salt in the oven, or
> whatever,
> does the same thing. Objectively, I mean. (It seems different
> people
> are reporting very different experiences.)
>
> Thanks,
> Shivani
>
>
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Feel free to just ignore the drunken posts!! Weird how the ones i wanna post seem to disappear. Like when i recommended Mentat from http://www.himalayahealthcare.com and other products (Great stuff!!). Guess i get a little i dunno, do think i am pretty harmless when tipsy, but will try and not post my beautiful thoughtpatterns to you guys,, (still could get stuff out of it, well guess it has not worn off completely, blame the neighbor-hotel for being out of agua quinada///)

ok better go

Love

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Re: Tumeric

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Hi,

Had to do a search to find the word back, here we call in curcuma (longa), apparently in the English language that word is reserved for another variety of this plant family. Tumeric.

Several people on this board use it. Some manage to get the fresh roots. Have been lucky enough to have a farmer in the area that is bringing me kilos of it now!

When i have it in my system i am symptom free ie cell-phones do not bother me at all anymore, even in the city. (use it like the yogies in anus and vagina, also eat it, plan to add it to creams and dye my hair with it as well, and boil it so i can drink the curcumine)

Another thing is that i had a little spot of black on my arm (actually since the time the whole thing came down on me 2 1/2 years ago). Always tried all kinda herbs on it and poking it out, kept coming back. It grew real slow. Was about to have it cut out or tested, then i tried some of the root on it with a bandaid and it immediately disppeared. It threathened to come back and i repeated the bandaid with curcuma and now the spot has cleared. (in just a few days). No way of telling if it was, curcuma does stop the blood from making the kinda cells cancer feeds on, it also is a powerful anti-oxidant and has another benefit that does not come to mind now.

Feel having it in my system like this is the perfect solution and defenitely recommend it. It allows my sustem to take from it whatver and whenevr needed.

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snoshoe_2
Been having trouble posting lately. Tried twice a couple days ago to
reply to the survey questions.

Let us know what the turmeric/curcumin does for your hair color, and
if you're blonde or brunette to start with? It might add some nice
highlights for some of us!

Besides being anti-cancer, turmeric is an antinflammatory. It helps
your bodies cortizone receptors receive the cortizone better. Why
it's so helpful for arthritis and joints. I wonder if that has
something to do with helping the emf symptoms?

Yucca root by the way, contains natural cortizone, for anyone that
might be looking for a harmless way to help in that area.

It also is helpful for dissolving gallstones, and strengthens the
capillary walls. I take a tsp. or two a day if joints or allergies
are bothering. Maybe not often enough to know if would help emf
symptoms.

That's interesting about that spot Perla, I think I might give it a
try on spot or two I have. Not quite the same, but would like gone.

Hope this sends this time, ~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], perla1133 <perla1133@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>    
> Had to do a search to find the word back, here we call in curcuma
(longa), apparently in the English language that word is reserved for
another variety of this plant family. Tumeric.
>    
> Several people on this board use it. Some manage to get the fresh
roots. Have been lucky enough to have a farmer in the area that is
bringing me kilos of it now!
>    
> When i have it in my system i am symptom free ie cell-phones do
not bother me at all anymore, even in the city. (use it like the
yogies in anus and vagina, also eat it, plan to add it to creams and
dye my hair with it as well, and boil it so i can drink the curcumine)
>    
> Another thing is that i had a little spot of black on my arm
(actually since the time the whole thing came down on me 2 1/2 years
ago). Always tried all kinda herbs on it and poking it out, kept
coming back. It grew real slow. Was about to have it cut out or
tested, then i tried some of the root on it with a bandaid and it
immediately disppeared. It threathened to come back and i repeated
the bandaid with curcuma and now the spot has cleared. (in just a few
days). No way of telling if it was, curcuma does stop the blood from
making the kinda cells cancer feeds on, it also is a powerful anti-
oxidant and has another benefit that does not come to mind now.
>    
> Feel having it in my system like this is the perfect solution and
defenitely recommend it. It allows my sustem to take from it whatver
and whenevr needed.
>    
> Love and Light
>

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Re: Tumeric

perla1133
Hi Snow,

Yeah gonna be an interesting colouring one of these days. Gonna do it with Red henna, curcuma (boiled i figure) and see if i can get some saffran for specks, plan to put a little lemon or vinagre in it, no decision there yet. Well Im brunette and any henna treatments have always hardly been noticeable. the reason I want it on my head is for the antioxidant working.( Use a greentea shampoo and conditioner from Bioland, and that one always perks me right up, says it combats free radicals, and we dont like those!!) Well if it does work this time i will as always carry any embarrassment with a smile/ (heck it is all an illusion anyway is sometimes taken too far by me maybe) do feel it will be gorgeous...

Oh had a kinda bump since a fall above my knee. Always was bigger when i felt worse, and that too seems to be taken away with tumeric-patch-method (had been shrinking already though)

Oh by that time i seem to have all the ingredients for kunkuma, the stuff of the red dot on forehead, and i might just experiment a little there as well (saffron tumeric, clay and some lime-vaseline will do just fine i figure)


Love and Light

Christ will love you free

snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Been having trouble posting lately. Tried twice a couple days ago to
reply to the survey questions.

Let us know what the turmeric/curcumin does for your hair color, and
if you're blonde or brunette to start with? It might add some nice
highlights for some of us!

Besides being anti-cancer, turmeric is an antinflammatory. It helps
your bodies cortizone receptors receive the cortizone better. Why
it's so helpful for arthritis and joints. I wonder if that has
something to do with helping the emf symptoms?

Yucca root by the way, contains natural cortizone, for anyone that
might be looking for a harmless way to help in that area.

It also is helpful for dissolving gallstones, and strengthens the
capillary walls. I take a tsp. or two a day if joints or allergies
are bothering. Maybe not often enough to know if would help emf
symptoms.

That's interesting about that spot Perla, I think I might give it a
try on spot or two I have. Not quite the same, but would like gone.

Hope this sends this time, ~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], perla1133 <perla1133@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Had to do a search to find the word back, here we call in curcuma
(longa), apparently in the English language that word is reserved for
another variety of this plant family. Tumeric.
>
> Several people on this board use it. Some manage to get the fresh
roots. Have been lucky enough to have a farmer in the area that is
bringing me kilos of it now!
>
> When i have it in my system i am symptom free ie cell-phones do
not bother me at all anymore, even in the city. (use it like the
yogies in anus and vagina, also eat it, plan to add it to creams and
dye my hair with it as well, and boil it so i can drink the curcumine)
>
> Another thing is that i had a little spot of black on my arm
(actually since the time the whole thing came down on me 2 1/2 years
ago). Always tried all kinda herbs on it and poking it out, kept
coming back. It grew real slow. Was about to have it cut out or
tested, then i tried some of the root on it with a bandaid and it
immediately disppeared. It threathened to come back and i repeated
the bandaid with curcuma and now the spot has cleared. (in just a few
days). No way of telling if it was, curcuma does stop the blood from
making the kinda cells cancer feeds on, it also is a powerful anti-
oxidant and has another benefit that does not come to mind now.
>
> Feel having it in my system like this is the perfect solution and
defenitely recommend it. It allows my sustem to take from it whatver
and whenevr needed.
>
> Love and Light
>







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snoshoe_2
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I couldn't say, but it does something. Tried it again the other day.-
Although the salt likes to spit, and I don't have a screen to cover
the pot with,so it gets around the stove top.  

Things are always in a state of flux. You gather a + charge walking
across the carpet, or getting out of your car, touch something else,
and it transfers. Back and forth. Just the way nature works in all
things. Builds up, comes down. If the salt emits - with water
present, maybe it absorbs it back when it's dry. -Hence the headache
problems?  

People use to be told to vacation by the ocean to restore health.  
Being near a waterfall is helpful too, but the salty water seems to
do more.  

I'd say it might be possible that it has more again to do with
frequencies, than just ions, perhaps. Like quartz and other
gemstones are used for setting timing in good watches, or just
regular clocks now...

Heating quartz amplifies it's energy (I can't recall what the word
is, but thermoelectric seems to fit), the same as hooking it up to
something electrical (piezoelectric). Maybe the salt is doing a
similar thing.

~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], "Emil DeToffol" <lessemf@l...> wrote:
>
> Yes, we have them. Air Ion Counter measures + and - ion
concentration in
> air. See http://www.lessemf.com/unique.html#156
>
> Though I don't expect a salt lamp or any other lump of salt to emit
> negative ions. After all, how do you explain all the positive ions
that
> would be left behind?
>
> Emil

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snoshoe_2
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Hehehe. Well, remember English isn't her first language either.  
Think she does pretty good mostly! :)



--- In [hidden email], perla1133 <perla1133@y...> wrote:
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>
> Feel free to just ignore the drunken posts!! Weird how the ones i
wanna post seem to disappear. Like when i recommended Mentat from
http://www.himalayahealthcare.com and other products (Great stuff!!).
Guess i get a little i dunno, do think i am pretty harmless when
tipsy, but will try and not post my beautiful thoughtpatterns to you
guys,, (still could get stuff out of it, well guess it has not worn
off completely, blame the neighbor-hotel for being out of agua
quinada///)
>    
> ok better go
>    
> Love
>  
> Emil DeToffol <lessemf@l...> wrote:
> What??

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snoshoe_2
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I wasn't clear there. It's the turmeric that helps dissolve gallstones.
Both turmeric and yucca together are useful for hayfever and arthritis
by the way.

>
> It also is helpful for dissolving gallstones, and strengthens the
> capillary walls. I take a tsp. or two a day if joints or allergies
> are bothering. Maybe not often enough to know if would help emf
> symptoms.
>