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amcafee

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The reason I think this evidence/research is important is that it
shows the link between vaccines, the measles, auto-immune diseases,
diabetes and DE-MYELINATION!

I think the ES syndrome is triggered from a vaccine induced
environment of dormant fungus/bacteria/mycoplasma, you name it, that
our immune system had been somewhat successful in holding at bay until
Wi-Fi came along and destroyed the body's ability to defend itself. To
fix this scenario, yes removing the stimuli (Wi-Fi is critical) and
also repairing/rebuilding the gut is key to some recovery. The
histamine/mast cell and NO (Nitric Oxide) connection is apart of this
as well as others that I don't understand fully.

Italian Court Reignites MMR Vaccine Debate After Award Over Child with
Autism
June 25 2012
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/25/mmr-vaccine-caused-autism.aspx
...MMR Vaccine Linked to Brain Inflammation

Whereas the research of Dr. Wakefield and others provide compelling
evidence that MMR vaccine can cause chronic inflammatory bowel
disease, other researchers have found links between the MMR and
inflammation of the brain. Dr. Harold Buttram has written about the
MMR vaccine's potential link to autism, due to the vaccine's potential
to cause brain inflammation. He explains:

"First and perhaps foremost, MMR is incubated in chick embryo culture
medium, which necessarily includes precursors of all the organ systems
of the chick, including myelin basic protein. Merck Pharmaceuticals,
which produces MMR vaccine, claims that all traces of the chick embryo
are removed before the vaccine is released for use.

This may be true, but it is probably irrelevant as it does not take
into account the process of mobile genetic elements, more commonly
referred to as "jumping genes." Viruses being made up entirely of
genetic material, they are highly susceptible to this process.

It has been shown that viruses are genetically changed by accepting
genetic material from cell cultures.' The genetic imprint of the chick
myelin basic protein, which is foreign to the human system because of
its chick origin, may be programmed to induce antibodies against human
myelin basic protein, once injected into the human system.

This in turn, potentially resulting in encephalitis."

If you don't want to take his word for it, take a look at the package
insert for Merck's MMR vaccinev , which, on page seven, lists
encephalitis as a potential side effect. Type 2 diabetes (diabetes
mellitus) is another, along with a number of other potentially life
altering conditions.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Elizabeth thode

RE: more from Mercola

IN addition, per Dr. Klinghardt, emfs MULTIPLY any micro toxins/bacteria/ heavy metals in the body.
He states: put any micro toxin, in the field of emfs, micro wave radiation, ect, and it will mulitply by
600%. This mechanism over whelms the immune system.
Also, geopathic stress IS ionizing radiation. So those sleeping/working directly in these paths,
are exposed to radiation; a factor rarely ever mentioned in this ES puzzle.
This translates to an exposure of radiation that has all but been ignored. Google: Richard Creightmore
Geopathic stress Land and Spirits and you will studies with blood tests, heart monitors, that prove
what Geopathic Stress does to the body.

Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:53:47 -0400
Subject: [eSens] more from Mercola

The reason I think this evidence/research is important is that it

shows the link between vaccines, the measles, auto-immune diseases,

diabetes and DE-MYELINATION!

I think the ES syndrome is triggered from a vaccine induced

environment of dormant fungus/bacteria/mycoplasma, you name it, that

our immune system had been somewhat successful in holding at bay until

Wi-Fi came along and destroyed the body's ability to defend itself. To

fix this scenario, yes removing the stimuli (Wi-Fi is critical) and

also repairing/rebuilding the gut is key to some recovery. The

histamine/mast cell and NO (Nitric Oxide) connection is apart of this

as well as others that I don't understand fully.

Italian Court Reignites MMR Vaccine Debate After Award Over Child with

Autism

June 25 2012

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/25/mmr-vaccine-caused-autism.aspx

...MMR Vaccine Linked to Brain Inflammation

Whereas the research of Dr. Wakefield and others provide compelling

evidence that MMR vaccine can cause chronic inflammatory bowel

disease, other researchers have found links between the MMR and

inflammation of the brain. Dr. Harold Buttram has written about the

MMR vaccine's potential link to autism, due to the vaccine's potential

to cause brain inflammation. He explains:

"First and perhaps foremost, MMR is incubated in chick embryo culture

medium, which necessarily includes precursors of all the organ systems

of the chick, including myelin basic protein. Merck Pharmaceuticals,

which produces MMR vaccine, claims that all traces of the chick embryo

are removed before the vaccine is released for use.

This may be true, but it is probably irrelevant as it does not take

into account the process of mobile genetic elements, more commonly

referred to as "jumping genes." Viruses being made up entirely of

genetic material, they are highly susceptible to this process.

It has been shown that viruses are genetically changed by accepting

genetic material from cell cultures.' The genetic imprint of the chick

myelin basic protein, which is foreign to the human system because of

its chick origin, may be programmed to induce antibodies against human

myelin basic protein, once injected into the human system.

This in turn, potentially resulting in encephalitis."

If you don't want to take his word for it, take a look at the package

insert for Merck's MMR vaccinev , which, on page seven, lists

encephalitis as a potential side effect. Type 2 diabetes (diabetes

mellitus) is another, along with a number of other potentially life

altering conditions.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

cjosephj

Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

In reply to this post by amcafee

Yes, I believe de-myelination is the key. But the part you may be missing is how to re-myelinate, or repair the damage to the myelin sheath. This is done with a diet high in cholesterol.

Of course with Big Pharma's push to get everyone on statins by constantly lowering the "acceptable" upper limit of serum cholesterol, many people today are dangerously low in this life-saving hormone. Studies have shown that the LOWER your cholesterol, the HIGHER the incidence of death from all causes.

For those of us with ES, I think it is particularly important to eliminate ALL trans-fats and polyunsaturated oils from our diets and make sure we are eating plenty of healthy saturated fats and cholesterol, and that we keep our serum cholesterol levels well above 220.

In an article titled "High intake of cholesterol shown to actually repair damaged brains," Ethan Huff writes:

"Including high-cholesterol foods as part of a healthy diet may not be the poor dietary choice we have all been told it is, suggests a new study published in the journal Nature Medicine. It turns out that cholesterol actually helps increase production of an important component of the nervous system that facilitates proper nerve cell communication, and prevents the onset of brain diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.

"The study focused specifically on patients with a condition known as Pelizaeus-Merzbacher disease (PMD), in which nerve cells are unable to properly manufacture protective myelin sheaths. It is these myelin sheaths, which are composed of lipid fats and proteins, that allow nerves to communicate and send appropriate electrical signals that trigger movement and cognition, and that protect nerves from damage.

"Cholesterol, which is commonly dismissed as harmful and something that people should avoid, actually contributes to producing and maintaining myelin sheaths. Without it, as evidenced by the recent studies, individuals with PMD -- and potentially all individuals -- are at a higher risk of developing cognitive illness and brain degradation. And particularly those with PMD, low-cholesterol diets are almost sure to leave them exceptionally prone to nerve damage."

And, I think, also those with ES. He goes on to state that a diet high in healthy saturated fats and cholesterol is critical to brain health, and "by interfering with the liver's natural function of producing cholesterol, statin drugs can actually strip the body of much-needed cholesterol, and cause serious nervous system and cognitive damage."

Colleen

The whole article is here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/036258_cholesterol_brain_repair_Alzheimers

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <Andrewmcafee1@...> wrote:

>
> The reason I think this evidence/research is important is that it
> shows the link between vaccines, the measles, auto-immune diseases,
> diabetes and DE-MYELINATION!
>
> I think the ES syndrome is triggered from a vaccine induced
> environment of dormant fungus/bacteria/mycoplasma, you name it, that
> our immune system had been somewhat successful in holding at bay until
> Wi-Fi came along and destroyed the body's ability to defend itself. To
> fix this scenario, yes removing the stimuli (Wi-Fi is critical) and
> also repairing/rebuilding the gut is key to some recovery. The
> histamine/mast cell and NO (Nitric Oxide) connection is apart of this
> as well as others that I don't understand fully.

evie15422

Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

Thanks Colleen! Amen to this info! Our bodies are built to repair.

Thanks for sharing,
Diane

________________________________
From: cjosephj <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

Yes, I believe de-myelination is the key. But the part you may be missing is how to re-myelinate, or repair the damage to the myelin sheath. This is done with a diet high in cholesterol.

Of course with Big Pharma's push to get everyone on statins by constantly lowering the "acceptable" upper limit of serum cholesterol, many people today are dangerously low in this life-saving hormone. Studies have shown that the LOWER your cholesterol, the HIGHER the incidence of death from all causes.

For those of us with ES, I think it is particularly important to eliminate ALL trans-fats and polyunsaturated oils from our diets and make sure we are eating plenty of healthy saturated fats and cholesterol, and that we keep our serum cholesterol levels well above 220.

In an article titled "High intake of cholesterol shown to actually repair damaged brains," Ethan Huff writes:

"Including high-cholesterol foods as part of a healthy diet may not be the poor dietary choice we have all been told it is, suggests a new study published in the journal Nature Medicine. It turns out that cholesterol actually helps increase production of an important component of the nervous system that facilitates proper nerve cell communication, and prevents the onset of brain diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.

"The study focused specifically on patients with a condition known as Pelizaeus-Merzbacher disease (PMD), in which nerve cells are unable to properly manufacture protective myelin sheaths. It is these myelin sheaths, which are composed of lipid fats and proteins, that allow nerves to communicate and send appropriate electrical signals that trigger movement and cognition, and that protect nerves from damage.

"Cholesterol, which is commonly dismissed as harmful and something that people should avoid, actually contributes to producing and maintaining myelin sheaths. Without it, as evidenced by the recent studies, individuals with PMD -- and potentially all individuals -- are at a higher risk of developing cognitive illness and brain degradation. And particularly those with PMD, low-cholesterol diets are almost sure to leave them exceptionally prone to nerve damage."

And, I think, also those with ES. He goes on to state that a diet high in healthy saturated fats and cholesterol is critical to brain health, and "by interfering with the liver's natural function of producing cholesterol, statin drugs can actually strip the body of much-needed cholesterol, and cause serious nervous system and cognitive damage."

Colleen

The whole article is here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/036258_cholesterol_brain_repair_Alzheimers

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <Andrewmcafee1@...> wrote:

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Snoshoe

Lowfat Diet - Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

I've been wondering how many of us have been on low or moderate fat
diets for any length of time before becoming ES? Just because of this
problem.

I was on a lowfat diet for many years, because that was what was promoted as healthy in the day. I've wondered if that was an additional cause to this.

I mentioned about the Ketogenic diet a while back, which should help correct this, and am really adding the fats to my diet.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>
> Thanks Colleen! Amen to this info! Our bodies are built to repair.
>
> Thanks for sharing,
> Diane
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: cjosephj <cjosephj@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:55 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination
>
> Yes, I believe de-myelination is the key. But the part you may be missing is how to re-myelinate, or repair the damage to the myelin sheath. This is done with a diet high in cholesterol.
>
> Of course with Big Pharma's push to get everyone on statins by constantly lowering the "acceptable" upper limit of serum cholesterol, many people today are dangerously low in this life-saving hormone. Studies have shown that the LOWER your cholesterol, the HIGHER the incidence of death from all causes.
>
> For those of us with ES, I think it is particularly important to eliminate ALL trans-fats and polyunsaturated oils from our diets and make sure we are eating plenty of healthy saturated fats and cholesterol, and that we keep our serum cholesterol levels well above 220.
>
> In an article titled "High intake of cholesterol shown to actually repair damaged brains," Ethan Huff writes:
>
> "Including high-cholesterol foods as part of a healthy diet may not be the poor dietary choice we have all been told it is, suggests a new study published in the journal Nature Medicine. It turns out that cholesterol actually helps increase production of an important component of the nervous system that facilitates proper nerve cell communication, and prevents the onset of brain diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.
>
> "The study focused specifically on patients with a condition known as Pelizaeus-Merzbacher disease (PMD), in which nerve cells are unable to properly manufacture protective myelin sheaths. It is these myelin sheaths, which are composed of lipid fats and proteins, that allow nerves to communicate and send appropriate electrical signals that trigger movement and cognition, and that protect nerves from damage.
>
> "Cholesterol, which is commonly dismissed as harmful and something that people should avoid, actually contributes to producing and maintaining myelin sheaths. Without it, as evidenced by the recent studies, individuals with PMD -- and potentially all individuals -- are at a higher risk of developing cognitive illness and brain degradation. And particularly those with PMD, low-cholesterol diets are almost sure to leave them exceptionally prone to nerve damage."
>
> And, I think, also those with ES. He goes on to state that a diet high in healthy saturated fats and cholesterol is critical to brain health, and "by interfering with the liver's natural function of producing cholesterol, statin drugs can actually strip the body of much-needed cholesterol, and cause serious nervous system and cognitive damage."
>
> Colleen
>
> The whole article is here:
> http://www.naturalnews.com/036258_cholesterol_brain_repair_Alzheimers
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <Andrewmcafee1@> wrote:
> >
> > The reason I think this evidence/research is important is that it
> > shows the link between vaccines, the measles, auto-immune diseases,
> > diabetes and DE-MYELINATION!
> >
> > I think the ES syndrome is triggered from a vaccine induced
> > environment of dormant fungus/bacteria/mycoplasma, you name it, that
> > our immune system had been somewhat successful in holding at bay until
> > Wi-Fi came along and destroyed the body's ability to defend itself. To
> > fix this scenario, yes removing the stimuli (Wi-Fi is critical) and
> > also repairing/rebuilding the gut is key to some recovery. The
> > histamine/mast cell and NO (Nitric Oxide) connection is apart of this
> > as well as others that I don't understand fully.
>

cjosephj

Lowfat Diet - Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

Just two words of caution concerning fats. First, make sure you are only eating healthy fats. In other words, no polyunsaturates. That means literally no oils, or anything that contains them, whether corn oil or soy oil, or even things like sunflower or safflower. They all contain PUFAs, which more and more research is showing to create all sorts of havoc in the body (and that includes olive oil, which has other even more serious problems). Plus seriously limiting the amount of nuts and seeds in your diet.

The other thing is be very careful with ketogenic diets, because after a while they can totally trash your adrenals. I find it best to eat just enough low-glycemic carbs to stay just above going into ketosis. And also, if you are eating high saturated fat, it has to be only the good kind--meat and dairy products must be from organic 100% grass-fed animals. All the toxins in their body get stored in their fat, which you definitely don't want to ingest if they are conventionally raised feedlot animals.

But also, once a ruminant animal (e.g., cows) are fed corn or soy, which are not part of their natural diet and they cannot properly metabolize, its body greatly reduces its production of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), and the fatty acid ratio of their meat and milk reverses to high Omega 6/low Omega 3, which can cause havoc similar to PUFA oils.

--Which is why so many studies "seem" to show saturated fat to be dangerous--These studies are all done with people who eat saturated fat from commercial animals. It's not the saturated fat that's dangerous, but ANY product from commercially-raised and fed animals. And the same with eggs--get them from free-range chickens that are not fed soy, because again, it adversely affects the fatty acid balance of the egg, and ultimately, how your body makes brain cells and nerve cells and everything else for which it uses fats.

I was fortunate in that I never did fall for the low-fat myth, and I believe that has a lot to do with why I've never had any ES symptoms in my head--no brain fog, no headaches, no dizziness--even in spite of severe mercury poisoning many years ago--and I'm never lacking in energy. It's all local, deep tissue and skin burning and swelling. For 10 or 15 years now I've had 2 or 3 eggs for breakfast every day, usually raw, and the only fats I use in food preparation are coconut oil, grass-fed butter, and, when I can get it, good lard. When I get into trouble is if I start eating anything with sugar (including high sugar vegetables like corn or potatoes), or anything made with flour, which I think a lot of people think they can do along with all the fat, and when it doesn't work they blame the fat.

--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <snoshoe_2@...> wrote:

>
> I've been wondering how many of us have been on low or moderate fat
> diets for any length of time before becoming ES? Just because of this
> problem.
>
> I was on a lowfat diet for many years, because that was what was promoted as healthy in the day. I've wondered if that was an additional cause to this.
>
> I mentioned about the Ketogenic diet a while back, which should help correct this, and am really adding the fats to my diet.
>
> ~ Snoshoe
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Colleen! Amen to this info! Our bodies are built to repair.
> >
> > Thanks for sharing,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: cjosephj <cjosephj@>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:55 AM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination
> >
> > Yes, I believe de-myelination is the key. But the part you may be missing is how to re-myelinate, or repair the damage to the myelin sheath. This is done with a diet high in cholesterol.
> >
> > Of course with Big Pharma's push to get everyone on statins by constantly lowering the "acceptable" upper limit of serum cholesterol, many people today are dangerously low in this life-saving hormone. Studies have shown that the LOWER your cholesterol, the HIGHER the incidence of death from all causes.
> >
> > For those of us with ES, I think it is particularly important to eliminate ALL trans-fats and polyunsaturated oils from our diets and make sure we are eating plenty of healthy saturated fats and cholesterol, and that we keep our serum cholesterol levels well above 220.
> >
> > In an article titled "High intake of cholesterol shown to actually repair damaged brains," Ethan Huff writes:
> >
> > "Including high-cholesterol foods as part of a healthy diet may not be the poor dietary choice we have all been told it is, suggests a new study published in the journal Nature Medicine. It turns out that cholesterol actually helps increase production of an important component of the nervous system that facilitates proper nerve cell communication, and prevents the onset of brain diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.
> >
> > "The study focused specifically on patients with a condition known as Pelizaeus-Merzbacher disease (PMD), in which nerve cells are unable to properly manufacture protective myelin sheaths. It is these myelin sheaths, which are composed of lipid fats and proteins, that allow nerves to communicate and send appropriate electrical signals that trigger movement and cognition, and that protect nerves from damage.
> >
> > "Cholesterol, which is commonly dismissed as harmful and something that people should avoid, actually contributes to producing and maintaining myelin sheaths. Without it, as evidenced by the recent studies, individuals with PMD -- and potentially all individuals -- are at a higher risk of developing cognitive illness and brain degradation. And particularly those with PMD, low-cholesterol diets are almost sure to leave them exceptionally prone to nerve damage."
> >
> > And, I think, also those with ES. He goes on to state that a diet high in healthy saturated fats and cholesterol is critical to brain health, and "by interfering with the liver's natural function of producing cholesterol, statin drugs can actually strip the body of much-needed cholesterol, and cause serious nervous system and cognitive damage."
> >
> > Colleen
> >
> > The whole article is here:
> > http://www.naturalnews.com/036258_cholesterol_brain_repair_Alzheimers
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <Andrewmcafee1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason I think this evidence/research is important is that it
> > > shows the link between vaccines, the measles, auto-immune diseases,
> > > diabetes and DE-MYELINATION!
> > >
> > > I think the ES syndrome is triggered from a vaccine induced
> > > environment of dormant fungus/bacteria/mycoplasma, you name it, that
> > > our immune system had been somewhat successful in holding at bay until
> > > Wi-Fi came along and destroyed the body's ability to defend itself. To
> > > fix this scenario, yes removing the stimuli (Wi-Fi is critical) and
> > > also repairing/rebuilding the gut is key to some recovery. The
> > > histamine/mast cell and NO (Nitric Oxide) connection is apart of this
> > > as well as others that I don't understand fully.
> >
>

melissascotthasmail

Lowfat Diet - Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

Thanks for the Ketogenic diet reference because this sounds promising. Oils are the only thing which I see consistently helping people with EHS (besides avoidance and grounding). Some take cocoanut oil. I take cod liver oil and evening primrose oil and it has helped.

I have wondered about fat and EHS. A few months ago I spoke to a woman who was going through the exact extreme symptoms as I had when I was in my house with a smart meterbody temperature fluctuations which became life-threatening. Shortly after that I saw her picture and she looked like mesame body type and thin.

I eat the skin on my chicken, and if I drink milk I drink whole milk. But except for olive oil to cook with my diet is pretty low fat.

I am 5'3", 115 pounds. I do wonder if our group is thinner and eating diets low in fat.

--- In [hidden email], "cjosephj" <cjosephj@...> wrote:

>
> Just two words of caution concerning fats. First, make sure you are only eating healthy fats. In other words, no polyunsaturates. That means literally no oils, or anything that contains them, whether corn oil or soy oil, or even things like sunflower or safflower. They all contain PUFAs, which more and more research is showing to create all sorts of havoc in the body (and that includes olive oil, which has other even more serious problems). Plus seriously limiting the amount of nuts and seeds in your diet.
>
> The other thing is be very careful with ketogenic diets, because after a while they can totally trash your adrenals. I find it best to eat just enough low-glycemic carbs to stay just above going into ketosis. And also, if you are eating high saturated fat, it has to be only the good kind--meat and dairy products must be from organic 100% grass-fed animals. All the toxins in their body get stored in their fat, which you definitely don't want to ingest if they are conventionally raised feedlot animals.
>
> But also, once a ruminant animal (e.g., cows) are fed corn or soy, which are not part of their natural diet and they cannot properly metabolize, its body greatly reduces its production of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), and the fatty acid ratio of their meat and milk reverses to high Omega 6/low Omega 3, which can cause havoc similar to PUFA oils.
>
> --Which is why so many studies "seem" to show saturated fat to be dangerous--These studies are all done with people who eat saturated fat from commercial animals. It's not the saturated fat that's dangerous, but ANY product from commercially-raised and fed animals. And the same with eggs--get them from free-range chickens that are not fed soy, because again, it adversely affects the fatty acid balance of the egg, and ultimately, how your body makes brain cells and nerve cells and everything else for which it uses fats.
>
> I was fortunate in that I never did fall for the low-fat myth, and I believe that has a lot to do with why I've never had any ES symptoms in my head--no brain fog, no headaches, no dizziness--even in spite of severe mercury poisoning many years ago--and I'm never lacking in energy. It's all local, deep tissue and skin burning and swelling. For 10 or 15 years now I've had 2 or 3 eggs for breakfast every day, usually raw, and the only fats I use in food preparation are coconut oil, grass-fed butter, and, when I can get it, good lard. When I get into trouble is if I start eating anything with sugar (including high sugar vegetables like corn or potatoes), or anything made with flour, which I think a lot of people think they can do along with all the fat, and when it doesn't work they blame the fat.
>
>

evie15422

Re: Lowfat Diet - Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

In reply to this post by Snoshoe

Hi Sno,

The docs say my body loves fat (and loves to store fat) because I was so severely nutrient deficient for so many years due to the gut damage from celiac disease--they think my body lived on stored fat a good many years before I was dxed, and possibly this fat contained nutrients my body couldn't get into my blood stream in the normal usable way. Now I actually cannot lose fat unless I feed myself MORE fat! Amazing, huh? lol [I am not over the guide lines into what you would call obese, but I tend toward an "apple" figure, or as I like to call it, a "butter-ball" figure. ;) I lose weight easily if I am diligent to eat a low carb diet with a high fat content and added nutritional supplements--essentially a ketogenic diet. But the minute I add carbs back or remove fats, I regain the weight again. This is WITH an already constantly gluten-free and sugar-free diet.]

So, now, my diet is always high fat. I do feel better eating a high fat diet--my body especially likes fat in the form of EV coconut oil and EV olive oil. The coconut oil is high in sat fat, but when I started using it, my cholesterol actually went down over 40 points in 3 months. Plus I mentioned how much better I did on sat fats to my nutritionist and he said he thought that was linked to how my body prefers to dispose of toxins. I do notice this is true--I don't have brain fog, etc when detoxing if I am eating a high sat fat diet. He said my body probably likes to keep a good store of adipose fat, also, because that is the safest place for my body to store toxins, and it makes it easier to detox those as you eat more fats.

As to your specific question about whether (I) was ever on a low or moderate fat diet..... When I was young, I didn't eat a lot of fats but I never went on an especially low fat diet. So, yes, I was probably at least on a moderate fat diet a good bit of my life. I am guessing, but perhaps the most important thing here as to why our bodies might crave high fats, is how our bodies deal with toxins over time; the body wanting more fats to deal with toxins, and to keep the body from breaking down or re-appropriating fats which are available already in the body (such as that used for nerve sheaths, and such) to use in the job of dealing with toxin retrieval and unloading.

Diane

________________________________
From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 1:46 PM
Subject: [eSens] Lowfat Diet - Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

I've been wondering how many of us have been on low or moderate fat
diets for any length of time before becoming ES? Just because of this
problem.

I was on a lowfat diet for many years, because that was what was promoted as healthy in the day. I've wondered if that was an additional cause to this.

I mentioned about the Ketogenic diet a while back, which should help correct this, and am really adding the fats to my diet.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

evie15422

Re: Lowfat Diet - Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

In reply to this post by cjosephj

Interesting, CJ,

I do eat extra-virgin olive oil. And I saw improvement in my health when I introduced it. I do not heat the oil, which denatures it, however. Is this the reason why it is not considered a good oil to use, in your opinion?

How do you balance your omega 3, 6, 9s?

Thanks for the informative post,
Diane

________________________________
From: cjosephj <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:43 PM
Subject: [eSens] Lowfat Diet - Re: more from Mercola/now Myelination

Just two words of caution concerning fats. First, make sure you are only eating healthy fats. In other words, no polyunsaturates. That means literally no oils, or anything that contains them, whether corn oil or soy oil, or even things like sunflower or safflower. They all contain PUFAs, which more and more research is showing to create all sorts of havoc in the body (and that includes olive oil, which has other even more serious problems). Plus seriously limiting the amount of nuts and seeds in your diet.

The other thing is be very careful with ketogenic diets, because after a while they can totally trash your adrenals. I find it best to eat just enough low-glycemic carbs to stay just above going into ketosis. And also, if you are eating high saturated fat, it has to be only the good kind--meat and dairy products must be from organic 100% grass-fed animals. All the toxins in their body get stored in their fat, which you definitely don't want to ingest if they are conventionally raised feedlot animals.

But also, once a ruminant animal (e.g., cows) are fed corn or soy, which are not part of their natural diet and they cannot properly metabolize, its body greatly reduces its production of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), and the fatty acid ratio of their meat and milk reverses to high Omega 6/low Omega 3, which can cause havoc similar to PUFA oils.

--Which is why so many studies "seem" to show saturated fat to be dangerous--These studies are all done with people who eat saturated fat from commercial animals. It's not the saturated fat that's dangerous, but ANY product from commercially-raised and fed animals. And the same with eggs--get them from free-range chickens that are not fed soy, because again, it adversely affects the fatty acid balance of the egg, and ultimately, how your body makes brain cells and nerve cells and everything else for which it uses fats.

I was fortunate in that I never did fall for the low-fat myth, and I believe that has a lot to do with why I've never had any ES symptoms in my head--no brain fog, no headaches, no dizziness--even in spite of severe mercury poisoning many years ago--and I'm never lacking in energy. It's all local, deep tissue and skin burning and swelling. For 10 or 15 years now I've had 2 or 3 eggs for breakfast every day, usually raw, and the only fats I use in food preparation are coconut oil, grass-fed butter, and, when I can get it, good lard. When I get into trouble is if I start eating anything with sugar (including high sugar vegetables like corn or potatoes), or anything made with flour, which I think a lot of people think they can do along with all the fat, and when it doesn't work they blame the fat.

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--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
> I do eat extra-virgin olive oil. And I saw improvement in my health when I introduced it. I do not heat the oil, which denatures it, however. Is this the reason why it is not considered a good oil to use, in your opinion?
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> How do you balance your omega 3, 6, 9s?
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Evie,

No, that's not the reason. I stopped using it several years ago because almost all olive oil is fake. It's either totally mis-labeled as olive oil when it is really colza or canola or some other cheap oil mixed with chlorophyll to make it green, or else a mixture of these, along with some olive oil. This includes almost all brands labeled organic extra virgin olive oil as well.

The mafia has been involved in this for years. There have been raids and arrests and assassinations over it, but it still continues. I tried to warn people years ago about it but I was mostly either ridiculed or ignored. Now somebody wrote a book about it, so the awareness finally seems to be entering the mainstream. You can google it to find out more. Here's one good article: http://www.foodrenegade.com/your-extravirgin-olive-oil-fake/

As for balancing the omegas, as long as you don't ever consume any vegetable oils (or anything containing them), the balance takes care of itself. Use beef fat and cream and butter from 100% grass-fed cows, and good quality coconut oil, and enough of it, and eat an avocado and a can of sardines or some salmon once in a while and it works out great.

It's the junk food and processed food that's packed with omega 6's that throws everybody's balance off. So eliminate that. And go easy on the nuts and seeds. Here's an article about oils, if you're interested: http://wellnessmama.com/2193/why-you-should-never-eat-vegetable-oil-or-margarine/

Real olive oil is the exception, but unless you live in an olive-producing area and can get it fresh, there are still other reasons not to use it. Once it's put in a bottle and heated and shipped across the ocean to sit on a store shelf, bad things happen to it, so I just prefer not to use it even if it's real. And besides, I have ES, which calls for an abundance of saturated fats and zero extra PUFAs for at least 8 months in order to heal.

Colleen