I bought a 1982 300D Mercedes, which is definitely a major improvement on my ES symptoms over my old gasoline car. But I still must deal wit with the alternator, which is giving me symptoms. My mechanic said that I can't disconnect the alternator because it will prevent the water pump from working. But I've read on this forum that some people do disconnect the alternators.If so, how did you do it - and did it not impact your water belt? Am I missing something? Best,
Josh |
All you have to do is unplug the alternator (leave the belt in place). The
plug is on the back side of the alternator. It is held in by a clip. Use a screwdriver to loosen up (or remove the clip). When you need to plug the plug back in, forget the clip. The first few times it is not easy to get the plug in and out. After that it's not bad, but takes a long time before it is really easy. Beware, there is a wire in the plug that is always hot. You may get some nice sparks when the front of the plug touches anything metal in the engine. I found the harness behind the instrument panel to add a kill switch for that wire. But make sure the wire is hot when driving with the plug in or you can kill the regulator in your alternator (after the alternator self-seeds at higher rpms). Actually, if starting on a low battery with the plug in, you can have the switch off, then turn it on as soon as the engine gets going. Starts noticeably easier. Never try to plug or unplug with the engine going. Get a deep cycle yellow-top Optima battery, 15 to 60 watts of solar panels (on the roof you need a flexible one; the trunk is flat enough to mount a glass one). 7amp sun-force charge controller. I had to mount the battery backwards and use a longer negative cable. Add some kind of voltmeter. Get a plug-in charger too (though they are mostly nasty emf-wise; keep it far away; The intelitender model 150 by Patco is not too bad but only 1.5 amp. If you're handy add your own plug connector so you don't have to open the hood (Anderson PowerPole connectors are nice). Get a volt meter. At 10.5 volts the battery is dead. Below 11.5 you risk not being able to start (though in warm conditions you may start at 11, and in freezing weather need 12). There's stuff you can disconnect that wastes power: a relay for the heater valve (just use a mechanical clamp) radio and antenna, window relay (just wire past it so windows always work--but beware if a switch gets stuck you'll drain the battery). Incidentally, the problem is not so much the alternator as the regulator, but replacing it with a linear one is a big job and not as good as running without the alternator. You should notice a big improvement. Check with an am radio, because there may be other noise sources (loose wires etc) that need to be addressed before you feel the benefit. Bill On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Joshua Kurlantzick <[hidden email]>wrote: > I bought a 1982 300D Mercedes, which is definitely a major improvement > on my ES symptoms over my old gasoline car. But I still must deal wit with > the alternator, which is giving me symptoms. My mechanic said that I can't > disconnect the alternator because it will prevent the water pump from > working. But I've read on this forum that some people do disconnect the > alternators. If so, how did you do it - and did it not impact your water > belt? Am I missing something? Best, > > Josh > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Thanks so much. I'm not that handy, which is why I took it to the mechanic.So it's not going to kill the cooling fan? He assured me it would. The problem is - I have to have a mechanic do this, because I would just screw up the easiest mechanical task, so I need to convince someone this is feasible. Best, Josh To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:44:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] modifying a 1982 mercedes diesel All you have to do is unplug the alternator (leave the belt in place). The plug is on the back side of the alternator. It is held in by a clip. Use a screwdriver to loosen up (or remove the clip). When you need to plug the plug back in, forget the clip. The first few times it is not easy to get the plug in and out. After that it's not bad, but takes a long time before it is really easy. Beware, there is a wire in the plug that is always hot. You may get some nice sparks when the front of the plug touches anything metal in the engine. I found the harness behind the instrument panel to add a kill switch for that wire. But make sure the wire is hot when driving with the plug in or you can kill the regulator in your alternator (after the alternator self-seeds at higher rpms). Actually, if starting on a low battery with the plug in, you can have the switch off, then turn it on as soon as the engine gets going. Starts noticeably easier. Never try to plug or unplug with the engine going. Get a deep cycle yellow-top Optima battery, 15 to 60 watts of solar panels (on the roof you need a flexible one; the trunk is flat enough to mount a glass one). 7amp sun-force charge controller. I had to mount the battery backwards and use a longer negative cable. Add some kind of voltmeter. Get a plug-in charger too (though they are mostly nasty emf-wise; keep it far away; The intelitender model 150 by Patco is not too bad but only 1.5 amp. If you're handy add your own plug connector so you don't have to open the hood (Anderson PowerPole connectors are nice). Get a volt meter. At 10.5 volts the battery is dead. Below 11.5 you risk not being able to start (though in warm conditions you may start at 11, and in freezing weather need 12). There's stuff you can disconnect that wastes power: a relay for the heater valve (just use a mechanical clamp) radio and antenna, window relay (just wire past it so windows always work--but beware if a switch gets stuck you'll drain the battery). Incidentally, the problem is not so much the alternator as the regulator, but replacing it with a linear one is a big job and not as good as running without the alternator. You should notice a big improvement. Check with an am radio, because there may be other noise sources (loose wires etc) that need to be addressed before you feel the benefit. Bill On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Joshua Kurlantzick <[hidden email]>wrote: > I bought a 1982 300D Mercedes, which is definitely a major improvement > on my ES symptoms over my old gasoline car. But I still must deal wit with > the alternator, which is giving me symptoms. My mechanic said that I can't > disconnect the alternator because it will prevent the water pump from > working. But I've read on this forum that some people do disconnect the > alternators. If so, how did you do it - and did it not impact your water > belt? Am I missing something? Best, > > Josh > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveĀ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I should have said, the screwdriver is just to bend the clip out of the way.
Then you gradually work the plug out. Bill On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: > All you have to do is unplug the alternator (leave the belt in place). The > plug is on the back > side of the alternator. It is held in by a clip. Use a screwdriver to > loosen up (or > remove the clip). When you need to plug the plug back in, forget the clip. > The first few times it is not easy to get the plug in and out. After that > it's > not bad, but takes a long time before it is really easy. > > Beware, there is a wire in the plug that is always hot. You may get some > nice sparks when the front of the plug touches anything metal in the > engine. I found the harness behind the instrument panel to add a kill > switch for that wire. But make sure the wire is hot when driving with the > plug > in or you can kill the regulator in your alternator (after the alternator > self-seeds at > higher rpms). Actually, if starting on a low > battery with the plug in, you can have the switch off, then turn it on as > soon as the engine > gets going. Starts noticeably easier. > > Never try to plug or unplug with the engine going. > > Get a deep cycle yellow-top Optima battery, 15 to 60 watts of solar panels > (on the roof > you need a flexible one; the trunk is flat enough to mount a glass one). > 7amp sun-force > charge controller. I had to mount the battery backwards and use a longer > negative > cable. Add some kind of voltmeter. Get a plug-in charger too (though they > are mostly > nasty emf-wise; keep it far away; The intelitender model 150 by Patco is > not too bad > but only 1.5 amp. If you're handy add your own plug connector so you don't > have > to open the hood (Anderson PowerPole connectors are nice). Get a volt > meter. > At 10.5 volts the battery is dead. Below 11.5 you risk not being able to > start > (though in warm conditions you may start at 11, and in freezing weather > need 12). > > There's stuff you can disconnect that wastes power: a relay for the heater > valve (just > use a mechanical clamp) radio and antenna, window relay (just wire past it > so windows > always work--but beware if a switch gets stuck you'll drain the battery). > > Incidentally, the problem is not so much the alternator as the regulator, > but replacing > it with a linear one is a big job and not as good as running without the > alternator. > > You should notice a big improvement. Check with an am radio, because there > may > be other noise sources (loose wires etc) that need to be addressed before > you > feel the benefit. > > Bill > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Joshua Kurlantzick <[hidden email]>wrote: > >> I bought a 1982 300D Mercedes, which is definitely a major improvement >> on my ES symptoms over my old gasoline car. But I still must deal wit with >> the alternator, which is giving me symptoms. My mechanic said that I can't >> disconnect the alternator because it will prevent the water pump from >> working. But I've read on this forum that some people do disconnect the >> alternators. If so, how did you do it - and did it not impact your water >> belt? Am I missing something? Best, >> >> Josh >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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