mobiles can hurt

Hi everybody. This email I got from Rod Read.


To all those expecting sudden change on ES and EMF health effects:
I love your impatience, your snort of "let's get this done", you remind me of myself, especially three years ago, and still occasionally today.

Alasdair Philips and others, some now even deceased, have fought in this battle for years and years, decades, you do not yet comprehend the scale of what we are up against. This is long ongoing.

I get the same flavour from others in the group, a wishful thinking that once we put the science 'out there' all the pieces will re-arrange. Recognition will follow and research and treatments.

THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN. It already has not happened!

The world just does not work in such a simple uncomplicated way. It is naieve, huge fortunes and investments are not relinquished with a shrug of

"Oh is that the case? Mobile phones can hurt you. We give up then, we were wrong"

Not even regulatory limits will be accepted, for a long time the telecoms have known we are right, since Carlo for sure, but decided deliberately on denial as the only strategy, The Big Simple Lie, otherwise they will have sold the pass, they know we know, and they know we are right.

I wish it would all change easily, I am not pessimistic, this is not patronising or preaching, this is a long-term fight we have to win, so realism isrequired.

Others with huge resources will not admit this, its red in blood, tooth andclaw, all the way, it has to be dragged on to the public stage and fought over when and as we get it there.

I believe we hold the aces, the correct and proper science, but that is notenough, the truth on its own never has been. They hold very high value court cards eg

access to the media

unlimited funding

access to power, like politicians, other massive companies, banks, international clout,

all the brains and 'research' money can buy

add lawyers to that too

and Universities and medical training establishments, old institutions,

placemen on major funders, committees etc,

they, the telecoms and advisors, have been playing their cards carefully and establishing control of this debate in a skilful professional long-term manner, knowing the stakes are so high.

plus they have the power of the status quo

which includes those with no wish to be shaken out of their dogma and ideas, such as GPs, their teachers, professors, media scientists and doctors.

Its very embarrassing to say "I was wrong", especially to a motley crew like us. Life and death decisions have been performed on the basis of existing'science', people will die first before admitting mistakes, and many do.

Resistance to a scientific/health paradigm shift like this, with unexaggeratable political and commercial implications will never melt away, it is inch by inch warfare. Our view has already been defeated for decades, we are not winning.

In fact this may be a generational thing, ALL, or most of the old believershave to DIE before our views will be accepted, and only then if new modern"EMFs CAN hurt you" is taught in universities' physics biology medical courses etc., which it isn't.

A meeting which anticipates glorious immediate capitulation of our opponents may as well be held in Cloud-cuckoo land as the Midlands.

Dr Robert Becker and others pointed out 'linking mechanisms" decades ago, it is ignored. Why? ask yourself.

Sorry, but its true,

fight the good fight, but see the size of it,

Rod









ElectroSensitivity-UK (registered charity 1103018) helping the vulnerable minority with Radiation Sickness from electromagnetic fields, microwaves, RF etc. all 'electrosmog'.

Rod Read M.Phil.,(Cantab), Dip Psych Couns., Cert.Ed. director

Please support us with a donation, (£10 min.) our only income, to ES-UK as below.

We welcome help from scientists, doctors and health experts in understanding causes and links, diagnosis and treatments. Also all media inquiries.

ES-UK Office, Bury Lane, Sutton, Ely, Cambs, CB6 2BB. Tel: 01353-778151 or at www.electrosensitivity.org.uk Also by e-mail at [hidden email]

Trustees: Professor of Human Radiation Effects Dr Denis Henshaw, Dr David Dowson MD., ChB, Jean Philips BA. Scientific advice from: www.powerwatch.org.uk, Keith Jamieson Dip.AAS. Bsc(Hons) RIBA. Inst.Ph., Environmental Consultant and others. Visit www.tetrawatch.net




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From: "Hillel Wahrman" <[hidden email]>
To: "Rod Read" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] They don't believe me
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:02:06 +0300


I send to [hidden email] <[hidden email]>

Do you want me to post it for you?

You should contact the manager for problems.

Thank you very much for your email.

Hillel
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From: Rod Read
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [eSens] They don't believe me










Hillel,

can you help?

When I sent this email it went off to you but is rejected by the group address.

Who do you send to? Do let me know.

Please forward this on, we know there are others with your problem, butnot so acutely, mostly it is GPs, not lovers!


Good luck

Rod


Dear es group,

In the Guardian of 30/05/06 James Randerson their Science correspondentquotes the famous evolutionary biologist Prof Steve Jones:

"If somebody has decided to believe something - whatever the evidence -then there is nothing you can do about it".

His context was creationism and blind anti-science belief in the bible.

We have it worse because doctors are claiming to be acting on correct scientific precepts. Ones that are mistaken, outdated, but now exist as dogma.

The Victorian scientists who refused to accept the idea of meteorites said :

"Stones do not fall from the sky because there are no stones in the sky"

Now we have EMFs do not hurt you because EMFs cannot hurt you, or vice versa, totally self-sufficient, inexorable and in defiance of the evidence.

Put the copy of Gro Harlem Brundtland's (former secretary-general of World Health Organisation) interview under their noses and above all keep calm and rational.

Remember THEY are the deluded Hillel.

Appendix 1 Case Study, Gro Harlem Brundtland

(English translation from Cover story in Norwegian newspaper "Dagbladet" of March 9, 2002: http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2002/03/09/318013.html Copyright Dagbladet 9/3/2002 )

Former Norwegian Prime Minister, WHO Director-General, Gro Harlem Brundtland is getting headaches every time she's using a mobile phone. Mobile phone radiation gives Gro Harlem Brundtland headaches.

WHO Director-General Gro Harlem Brundtland (62), gets headaches from talking on a mobile phone. That is not enough: People in her proximity must turn their phones off in order to prevent discomfort. By Aud Dalsegg Saturday 9 March 2002

"It's not the sound, but the waves I react on. My hypersensitivity hasgone so far that I even react on mobiles closer to me than about four metres,"

Gro explains. When we sit with her in her office at "Helsetilsynet" in Oslo she asks if there is an active mobile phone in the room. She finds that she has developed a slight headache.

The cellular phone of the photographer was turned on but without sound in the pocket of his jacket. The earlier Minister of State [Prime Minister]never had a mobile of her own, but she has close associates who do and sheearlier often received calls on their phones.

She says there are reasons to be cautious about mobile phone use.

"In the beginning I felt a local warmth around my ear. But the agony got worse, and turned into a strong discomfort and headaches every time I used a mobile phone,"

Gro says. She thought she could escape the pain by shorter calls, but it didn't help.

Neither did it help that she herself stopped using a mobile phone. Today it is a tool everybody uses, also at her workplace, the World Health Organisation (WHO) in Geneva.

"I felt after a while that I had developed a sensitivity against the radiation. And in order not to be thought to be hysterical - that someone should believe that this was just something I imagined - I have made several tests: People have been in my office with their mobile hidden in their pocket or bag. Without knowing if it was on or off, we have tested my reactions.I have always reacted when the phone has been on - never when it's off. Sothere is no doubt." What about PCs? - "If I hold a laptop to read what's on the screen, it feels like I get an electric shock through my arms."....

The headache she gets from mobile radiation abates about half an hour to an hour after the radiation exposure stops. She cannot stand wireless [phones].

Wireless phones, becoming more and more common in homes are said to radiate stronger than mobile phones [due to the lack of low power modes of DECT]. Gro cannot stand such [phones] either.

"I get an instant reaction if I touch such a phone".

Do you advise against using a mobile phone? -

"We do not have scientific evidence to go out with a clear warning. It is not established that the radiation for instance can result in brain cancer. WHO has a big study going on and in 2-3 years from now, we will have better answers to all these questions. But I understand the scientists who warn. I think we have reason to be cautious, and not use the [mobile] phone more than necessary. And the younger you are, the more reason to take this seriously. I think you should follow the precautionary principle",

Gro Harlem Brundtland says.

" Previously scientists and physicians have ignored hypersensitivity toelectricity."

The Norwegian Association for Electro-sensitive felt the resistance to be so strong they closed down their work [they have since started again].

"But I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people developsensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer or other diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.".






     







ElectroSensitivity-UK (registered charity 1103018) helping the vulnerable minority with Radiation Sickness from electromagnetic fields, microwaves, RF etc. all 'electrosmog'.

Rod Read M.Phil.,(Cantab), Dip Psych Couns., Cert.Ed. director

Please support us with a donation, (£10 min.) our only income, to ES-UK as below.

We welcome help from scientists, doctors and health experts in understanding causes and links, diagnosis and treatments. Also all media inquiries.

ES-UK Office, Bury Lane, Sutton, Ely, Cambs, CB6 2BB. Tel: 01353-778151or at www.electrosensitivity.orguk Also by e-mail at electrosensitivity@hotmailcom

Trustees: Professor of Human Radiation Effects Dr Denis Henshaw, Dr David Dowson MD., ChB, Jean Philips BA. Scientific advice from: www.powerwatch.org.uk, Keith Jamieson Dip.AAS. Bsc(Hons) RIBA. Inst.Ph., Environmental Consultant and others. Visit www.tetrawatch.net




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