metal roof question

> A while back someone asked about a metal roof and Marc replied:
> "I think a metal roof could definitely cause problems, although
> I suppose it's possible that grounding it might help?"
>
A metal roof is a good receiver of frequencies, which will then be
passed on to the house. As most people in the USA and Canada have a serious
ground current problem, grounding a metal roof will usually mean that whatever
current/frequency is on the ground will then be on the roof. If you have metal
drain pipes, they will also conduct current/frequency up to a metal roof.
Metal siding is the same story. Current with health-damaging high frequencies
can "hop on" anywhere along the line of metal siding, drain pipes and
roofing, from where it will be broadcast through your living space. All the metal
structures you have in your house can do this, such as metal grids holding up
tile ceilings, metal beams, ductwork, water pipes, etcetera. Not to
mention, of course, your wiring system.
In the USA, grounding is dangerous. If you do it, you must check with
meters to see if you have made matters better or worse.
Regards,
Shivani
>
>



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I have a metal roof and metal siding on my mobile home. It may all
be in my head but I thought I felt better after grounding them as
well as the two I-Beams under the home. The more grounding I do the
better I feel. But there is a point where you can ground too much
and actually create your own magnetic fields with your ground wires.
Or so I was told by an electrician. I asked him what kind of meter
to use to check which way the current was flowing and I don't
remember but I think he evaded the question. He answered by saying
it didn't matter which was the current was flowing as long as it was
flowing. Hopefully it is flowing into the ground and not coming up
through the ground into the home. I used big AWG #2 and AWG #4 wires
except for on the roof which I think was AWG #8. Using a trifield
meter I get the most current coming off of the roof. I'm getting a 4
reading. What kind of meter should I use? A clamp meter that has a
direction flow indicator? Those are more than a hundred bucks I
think.


--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote:
> > A while back someone asked about a metal roof and Marc replied:
> > "I think a metal roof could definitely cause problems, although
> > I suppose it's possible that grounding it might help?"
> >
> A metal roof is a good receiver of frequencies, which will
then be
> passed on to the house. As most people in the USA and Canada
have a serious
> ground current problem, grounding a metal roof will usually mean
that whatever
> current/frequency is on the ground will then be on the roof. If
you have metal
> drain pipes, they will also conduct current/frequency up to a metal
roof.
> Metal siding is the same story. Current with health-damaging high
frequencies
> can "hop on" anywhere along the line of metal siding, drain pipes
and
> roofing, from where it will be broadcast through your living
space. All the metal
> structures you have in your house can do this, such as metal grids
holding up
> tile ceilings, metal beams, ductwork, water pipes, etcetera. Not
to
> mention, of course, your wiring system.
> In the USA, grounding is dangerous. If you do it, you must
check with
> meters to see if you have made matters better or worse.
> Regards,
> Shivani
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
>
> I have a metal roof and metal siding on my mobile home. It may all
> be in my head but I thought I felt better after grounding them as
> well as the two I-Beams under the home. The more grounding I do the
> better I feel.

I watched a video by the swedish homeopath "Healthy Lars" a while ago.
He talks a lot about this problem. He tells people to ground the metal
roof for example. If the ground is "dirty", as Shivaji said, you can
make your OWN ground by digging a deep hole and put a copperplate
there, with a ground cable to it. Now you got private ground, but
remember there should be only ONE ground, so the old ground has to be
disconnected. In Sweden we need a permit to do this. Ask an
electrician for more details.

I have only one ground to the roof. But it is all kind of connected
as the roof touches the sides, etc. I got several grounds on the
sides and underneath. I got different advice from an electrician who
installs filters and consults people on these issues. He says to
ground the mobile home on the four corners of the home on the
underlying I-beams. Mine is not dones exactly like that but I have
three or four grounds under the home as well as two grounds on the
sides. I use 8 foot ground rods that are pounded into the ground in
places that are usually kept moist. I definitely felt better when I
did all the grounding. I put in a bunch of stetzer filters and when
I plugged in a quantum pro it really made me improve in my symptoms.
Right now I'm pretty much leaving well enough alone as it seems to be
working.

--- In [hidden email], "Roger Olsson" <roger.olsson@p...>
wrote:
> --- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
> >
> > I have a metal roof and metal siding on my mobile home. It may
all
> > be in my head but I thought I felt better after grounding them as
> > well as the two I-Beams under the home. The more grounding I do
the
> > better I feel.
>
> I watched a video by the swedish homeopath "Healthy Lars" a while
ago.
> He talks a lot about this problem. He tells people to ground the
metal
> roof for example. If the ground is "dirty", as Shivaji said, you
can
> make your OWN ground by digging a deep hole and put a copperplate
> there, with a ground cable to it. Now you got private ground, but
> remember there should be only ONE ground, so the old ground has to
be
> disconnected. In Sweden we need a permit to do this. Ask an
> electrician for more details.

--- In [hidden email], "quaixemen" <straitguy@s...> wrote:
> I have only one ground to the roof.

RGO - What I meant was that one shouldn't use booth the power
companies ground and the selfmade one. This could lead to bad
electrical fields.

RGO - Now, maybe I should keep my mouth shut and not be the cause of
any worry. But I rarely can, so here goes. I am reading MD Sherry
Rogers book "The EI syndrome". The plethora of chemicals that outgas
from at least NEW mobile homes are the cause of many new allergies for
her patients. They get so chemically sensitive that they cant read a
book for the formaldehyde it outgasses and so on. If I where you I
would have very good ventilation. And and ionizer to the 12 volt
system. They dont use much power. And maybe an aircleaner too, maybe
with charcoal filter. Yes, I have lived through this too. Ended up in
a party tent in Sweden during the winter. ?:-o

Take care,

Roger

wrote:
> > I have only one ground to the roof.
>
> RGO - What I meant was that one shouldn't use booth the power
> companies ground and the selfmade one. This could lead to bad
> electrical fields.
>

There are two copper ground wires coming down from the fuse box. I
can only find one underneath the mobile home. I think the second one
is grounded to a piece of metal that is connected to the frame of
the mobile home itself. And the first ground wire is connected to
the water pipe which is supposed to be the code. The consultant I
referred to told me I should add another ground wire from the water
pipe to the frame of the home near the place where the ground from
the fuse box connects to the water pipe just in case. Using a
trifield meter I can detect a small field next to the pipe where it
comes up outside where there is an outside faucet. I'm told by this
consultant that since I have to put the meter right up next to the
pipe before I can detect any field that it is probably okay. The
consultant also suggested using extra grounds such as the ones that I
have grounded to the frame for the reason that I am using graham-
stetzer filters which do not have a ground pin but only use the two
prongs when you plug them in. For these filters to work he says you
should increase your ground this way. But I also ground the sheeting
on the outside and the roof as it seems to me that the metal is
absorbing the electricity in the atmosphere and it needs to go to
ground instead of just radiating that electricity possibly into the
home.
> RGO - Now, maybe I should keep my mouth shut and not be the cause
of
> any worry. But I rarely can, so here goes. I am reading MD Sherry
> Rogers book "The EI syndrome". The plethora of chemicals that
outgas
> from at least NEW mobile homes are the cause of many new allergies
for
> her patients. They get so chemically sensitive that they cant read
a
> book for the formaldehyde it outgasses and so on. If I where you I
> would have very good ventilation. And and ionizer to the 12 volt
> system. They dont use much power. And maybe an aircleaner too,
maybe
> with charcoal filter. Yes, I have lived through this too. Ended up
in
> a party tent in Sweden during the winter. ?:-o
>
> When I bought this mobile home it had been so completely torn up by
the previous owner I had to completely gut it and rebuild it from the
inside. That's what happens when you have a fire and very little
insurance money. Today I would have used the insurance money as a
down payment and purchased a better one. But back then I didn't have
that thought and bought this place. I sheetrocked the entire thing
like a regular house using that green moisure resistant sheet rock. I
have had many allergies since I was young. They say I was allergic
to 21 different things as a baby and even had to get rid of wool
carpeting because of me. I was very mindful of what materials I used
to rebuild the inside of my home. Everything is real wood as I can't
tolerate that fake wood and glue stuff.