measuring longitudinal waves

Hi, Ray,
these longitudinal or scalar waves have their biological effect not primarily
through their physical intensity but through the information they carry into
the biological organism. So, even if there would be a physical measuring tool,
it possibly could say, that there are longitudinal waves of a certain
intensity, but it could not say wether these waves have a positive or negative
effect on the body. Mesauring sound, you could have the same readings from the
engine of a car and your favourite music. The effect though would be very
different.

By the way, what today is termed as athermal effect of EMF is exactly the
effect of the longitudinal waves, that always accompany any electromagnetic
phenomena. This athermal effect can also be positiv, as everything in nature can be
positiv or negativ.

Dietrich Gruen


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Hi Dietrich:
Thank you for your insights.
So we are back to using living systems as the only effective responders to
scalar waves and the information they convey.
I remember reading an old Russian study from the 60's that indicated that
wearing leather clothing reduced the negative effects of scalar wave energy
(from underground streams) on the wearer. Has anyone on the list had any
experience with wearing leather on their EMF induced symptoms? Or silk?
Ray

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>
> Hi, Ray,
> these longitudinal or scalar waves have their biological effect not
primarily
> through their physical intensity but through the information they carry
into
> the biological organism. So, even if there would be a physical measuring
tool,
> it possibly could say, that there are longitudinal waves of a certain
> intensity, but it could not say wether these waves have a positive or
negative
> effect on the body. Mesauring sound, you could have the same readings from
the
> engine of a car and your favourite music. The effect though would be very
> different.
>
> By the way, what today is termed as athermal effect of EMF is exactly the
> effect of the longitudinal waves, that always accompany any
electromagnetic
> phenomena. This athermal effect can also be positiv, as everything in
nature can be