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Flavio

"magick" vs irritating vibes

Hi folks,

During the past 12 months I have moved 7 times. I am a student
living abroad so I have the chance to move as I wish. So far, I
have moved more times of appartments that I have passed school
courses in these l2 months. Coincidentally, I began this craze due
to "electrosensitivity" issues and continued it due
to "electrosensitivity" issues. Amazingly, 5 of the 7 times I moved
the reason was a environmental vibrational issue. It is as if the
electrodemons are all after me!! First some minor electrical
wiring, then strong geopathic zone, then a telephone tower, then a
electrical tower, then again a geopathic zone. Why have I make the
same dump mistake 5 times? Well, that would be the issue of another
post. So far my parents think I am insane. They do not recognize
vibes as reality.

Here I want to write my experience with some simple "witchcraft"
tools for making the vibes more friendly : candles, incense ,
essencial oils and devic clearings. I have to mention that prior to
meeting the EMFs I was an skeptic of the "occult". I do not think
these tools are a solution to the problem, the solution is moving to
another house! I hope there are other more practical alternatives.
But they could make your life easier while you find out those other
alternatives.

Candle Magick is recognized all around the world by certain people.
Candle magick is used by most religions and by most esoteric
groups. To me candle magick has an effect harmonizing living
quarters, the color of the candles is important. For instance, I
light three candles: one white, one gray and one blue; specific
colors for my geopathic situation. When I was living near the
telephone tower, the red candle was important. As I light them up
in a safe place outdoors (since they are gonna be on 24 hours they
the candle smoke is a pollutant to me) I mentally pray making clear
my intention of harmonizing the vibes inside my home. As they are
on 24 hours** they harmonize living quarters; I find this the most
effective although there are some books that describe spells for
harmonizing homes in which you only have to leave the candles on for
lets say 30 minutes, I have found them less powerful than letting
them on full time. Candle magick is a bit complex, but it can do
wonders.

Burning incense also make the vibes around more bearable, more
friendly or even heavenly, however incense smoke is slightly toxic.
I have found that burnig incense outside the home along with a short
prayer making clear that our intention is to harmonize the vibes
inside the targeted home has a marked effect as well. It has to be
quality incense.

Essencial oils also help but in my experience they are less
effective than both candles and incense but they can be done inside
safely!!

And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
have been some beneficial effects.

Although Devic clearings have only initially been used for geopathic
issues, some folks feel they have a lot of potencial in EMF
situations. Don't take me wrong... someone sometime said: "reality
is weirder than fiction".

Some links to devic work and other vibe protection stuff:

http://www.earthtransitions.com/
http://www.slimspurling.com/
http://www.ablecrystals.com/center.html

sincerely,

Flavio

Peter Needham

Re: "magick" vs irritating vibes

Hi Flavio,

"And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
have been some beneficial effects. "

I wonder if its not the 'unfriendly' nature spirits who are causing some of the bad vibes??

Cheers
Pete

flavio_novelo wrote:

>Hi folks,
>
>During the past 12 months I have moved 7 times. I am a student
>living abroad so I have the chance to move as I wish. So far, I
>have moved more times of appartments that I have passed school
>courses in these l2 months. Coincidentally, I began this craze due
>to "electrosensitivity" issues and continued it due
>to "electrosensitivity" issues. Amazingly, 5 of the 7 times I moved
>the reason was a environmental vibrational issue. It is as if the
>electrodemons are all after me!! First some minor electrical
>wiring, then strong geopathic zone, then a telephone tower, then a
>electrical tower, then again a geopathic zone. Why have I make the
>same dump mistake 5 times? Well, that would be the issue of another
>post. So far my parents think I am insane. They do not recognize
>vibes as reality.
>
>Here I want to write my experience with some simple "witchcraft"
>tools for making the vibes more friendly : candles, incense ,
>essencial oils and devic clearings. I have to mention that prior to
>meeting the EMFs I was an skeptic of the "occult". I do not think
>these tools are a solution to the problem, the solution is moving to
>another house! I hope there are other more practical alternatives.
>But they could make your life easier while you find out those other
>alternatives.
>
>Candle Magick is recognized all around the world by certain people.
>Candle magick is used by most religions and by most esoteric
>groups. To me candle magick has an effect harmonizing living
>quarters, the color of the candles is important. For instance, I
>light three candles: one white, one gray and one blue; specific
>colors for my geopathic situation. When I was living near the
>telephone tower, the red candle was important. As I light them up
>in a safe place outdoors (since they are gonna be on 24 hours they
>the candle smoke is a pollutant to me) I mentally pray making clear
>my intention of harmonizing the vibes inside my home. As they are
>on 24 hours** they harmonize living quarters; I find this the most
>effective although there are some books that describe spells for
>harmonizing homes in which you only have to leave the candles on for
>lets say 30 minutes, I have found them less powerful than letting
>them on full time. Candle magick is a bit complex, but it can do
>wonders.
>
>Burning incense also make the vibes around more bearable, more
>friendly or even heavenly, however incense smoke is slightly toxic.
>I have found that burnig incense outside the home along with a short
>prayer making clear that our intention is to harmonize the vibes
>inside the targeted home has a marked effect as well. It has to be
>quality incense.
>
>Essencial oils also help but in my experience they are less
>effective than both candles and incense but they can be done inside
>safely!!
>
>And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
>spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
>the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
>has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
>have been some beneficial effects.
>
>Although Devic clearings have only initially been used for geopathic
>issues, some folks feel they have a lot of potencial in EMF
>situations. Don't take me wrong... someone sometime said: "reality
>is weirder than fiction".
>
>Some links to devic work and other vibe protection stuff:
>
>http://www.earthtransitions.com/
>http://www.slimspurling.com/
>http://www.ablecrystals.com/center.html
>
>
>sincerely,
>
>Flavio
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perla1133

Re: "magick" vs irritating vibes

Hi pete,

There is no need in responding to posts you assume have no truth in them..is there?? My opinion is when there is no more judgement the symptoms stop-- let everyone take their own path and have the freedom what works for them..

<As a response to your post: you might be closer to the truth than you wanna be..

Love and Light

pete <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Flavio,

"And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
have been some beneficial effects. "

I wonder if its not the 'unfriendly' nature spirits who are causing some of the bad vibes??

Cheers
Pete

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Re: "magick" vs irritating vibes

Hello,

I am very familiar with many symptoms of electrosensibility.
We encounter many people with our building biological house investigations.
With our many meters, we try to find many causes for the troubles.

However, from time to time it occurs, that people do have typical
electrosensibility symptoms, but we are not able to detect or measure the
sources.
We have experienced, that when people do consult a *healer* or *magnetizer*
or whatever you may call it, these healers can make entities, which are in
the body, will go out.
The people may *feel* the entities or ghosts go out and leave the body.

For me it is essential, that from the same moment, they leave the body, all
symptoms of electrosensibility are gone.

The only problem is, that after some time entities are coming back (or
others) and the process has to be repeated.

Entities or ghosts are not an religious issue.
For me, they are just a cloud of energy, with frequencies and information.
See http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina114b.html

So, although I am a type with only electronic gear (and no pendulums or
dowsing) for measuring, I am aware of other things, we cannot measue at the
moment, but which still exist and may be playing a part in our lives.
It is worth considering these phenomena also.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ellen Hellingwerf" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 19:46
Subject: Re: [eSens] "magick" vs irritating vibes

> Hi pete,
>
> There is no need in responding to posts you assume have no truth in
them..is there?? My opinion is when there is no more judgement the symptoms
stop-- let everyone take their own path and have the freedom what works for
them..
>
> <As a response to your post: you might be closer to the truth than you
wanna be..

>
> Love and Light
>
> pete <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Flavio,
>
> "And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
> spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
> the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
> has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
> have been some beneficial effects. "
>
> I wonder if its not the 'unfriendly' nature spirits who are causing some

of the bad vibes??

>
> Cheers
> Pete
>
>
>
> flavio_novelo wrote:
>
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >During the past 12 months I have moved 7 times. I am a student
> >living abroad so I have the chance to move as I wish. So far, I
> >have moved more times of appartments that I have passed school
> >courses in these l2 months. Coincidentally, I began this craze due
> >to "electrosensitivity" issues and continued it due
> >to "electrosensitivity" issues. Amazingly, 5 of the 7 times I moved
> >the reason was a environmental vibrational issue. It is as if the
> >electrodemons are all after me!! First some minor electrical
> >wiring, then strong geopathic zone, then a telephone tower, then a
> >electrical tower, then again a geopathic zone. Why have I make the
> >same dump mistake 5 times? Well, that would be the issue of another
> >post. So far my parents think I am insane. They do not recognize
> >vibes as reality.
> >
> >Here I want to write my experience with some simple "witchcraft"
> >tools for making the vibes more friendly : candles, incense ,
> >essencial oils and devic clearings. I have to mention that prior to
> >meeting the EMFs I was an skeptic of the "occult". I do not think
> >these tools are a solution to the problem, the solution is moving to
> >another house! I hope there are other more practical alternatives.
> >But they could make your life easier while you find out those other
> >alternatives.
> >
> >Candle Magick is recognized all around the world by certain people.
> >Candle magick is used by most religions and by most esoteric
> >groups. To me candle magick has an effect harmonizing living
> >quarters, the color of the candles is important. For instance, I
> >light three candles: one white, one gray and one blue; specific
> >colors for my geopathic situation. When I was living near the
> >telephone tower, the red candle was important. As I light them up
> >in a safe place outdoors (since they are gonna be on 24 hours they
> >the candle smoke is a pollutant to me) I mentally pray making clear
> >my intention of harmonizing the vibes inside my home. As they are
> >on 24 hours** they harmonize living quarters; I find this the most
> >effective although there are some books that describe spells for
> >harmonizing homes in which you only have to leave the candles on for
> >lets say 30 minutes, I have found them less powerful than letting
> >them on full time. Candle magick is a bit complex, but it can do
> >wonders.
> >
> >Burning incense also make the vibes around more bearable, more
> >friendly or even heavenly, however incense smoke is slightly toxic.
> >I have found that burnig incense outside the home along with a short
> >prayer making clear that our intention is to harmonize the vibes
> >inside the targeted home has a marked effect as well. It has to be
> >quality incense.
> >
> >Essencial oils also help but in my experience they are less
> >effective than both candles and incense but they can be done inside
> >safely!!
> >
> >And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
> >spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
> >the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
> >has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
> >have been some beneficial effects.
> >
> >Although Devic clearings have only initially been used for geopathic
> >issues, some folks feel they have a lot of potencial in EMF
> >situations. Don't take me wrong... someone sometime said: "reality
> >is weirder than fiction".
> >
> >Some links to devic work and other vibe protection stuff:
> >
> >http://www.earthtransitions.com/
> >http://www.slimspurling.com/
> >http://www.ablecrystals.com/center.html
> >
> >
> >sincerely,
> >
> >Flavio
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Flavio

Re: "magick" vs irritating vibes

In reply to this post by Peter Needham

Hi Pete,

>
> I wonder if its not the 'unfriendly' nature spirits who are causing
some of the bad vibes??
>

It seems it was not the case in my situation. My point is that nature
spirits (aka devas and elementals) seem to be able to help us
harmonising our living quarters from unhealthy vibes either geopathic
or electromagnetic. They seem to be sort of God's Earthkeepers crew.
I have gotten considerable health benefits from doing work with them.

Also, they are kinda just waiting for us to contact them for helping
us

Flavio

Flavio

Re: "magick" vs irritating vibes

In reply to this post by perla1133

Hi Ellen,

>
> There is no need in responding to posts you assume have no truth
>in them..is there??

I think it is. It would help me to acknowledge my delusions and
misconceptions if there are some. And I would not be more grateful
for that.

<My opinion is when there is no more judgement the symptoms stop--
<let everyone take their own path and have the freedom what works
<for them.

I did not feel as if Pete was interfering in my path.

Flavio

Peter Needham

Re: "magick" vs irritating vibes

In reply to this post by perla1133

Ellen,

Actually you misunderstood me.

I believe in the existance of spirits. But I believe there are both good
and bad. I believe they have purpose, intelligence and intent. I also
believe they inhabit a plane that may interact with ours in various
ways, and one of those may be related to EMF. Certainly in some form of
frequency (vibe) within our own world. I cant prove it, I dont really
want to, but I do think its possible, and even likely.

I am not here to judge anyone, just to learn, and help myself and those
around me who suffer from this very misunderstood and often lonely
affliction.

All the best
Pete

Ellen Hellingwerf wrote:

>Hi pete,
>
>There is no need in responding to posts you assume have no truth in them..is there?? My opinion is when there is no more judgement the symptoms stop-- let everyone take their own path and have the freedom what works for them..
>
><As a response to your post: you might be closer to the truth than you wanna be..
>
>Love and Light
>
>pete <[hidden email]> wrote:
>Hi Flavio,
>
>"And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
>spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
>the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
>has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
>have been some beneficial effects. "
>
>I wonder if its not the 'unfriendly' nature spirits who are causing some of the bad vibes??
>
>Cheers
>Pete
>
>
>
>flavio_novelo wrote:
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>>Hi folks,
>>
>>During the past 12 months I have moved 7 times. I am a student
>>living abroad so I have the chance to move as I wish. So far, I
>>have moved more times of appartments that I have passed school
>>courses in these l2 months. Coincidentally, I began this craze due
>>to "electrosensitivity" issues and continued it due
>>to "electrosensitivity" issues. Amazingly, 5 of the 7 times I moved
>>the reason was a environmental vibrational issue. It is as if the
>>electrodemons are all after me!! First some minor electrical
>>wiring, then strong geopathic zone, then a telephone tower, then a
>>electrical tower, then again a geopathic zone. Why have I make the
>>same dump mistake 5 times? Well, that would be the issue of another
>>post. So far my parents think I am insane. They do not recognize
>>vibes as reality.
>>
>>Here I want to write my experience with some simple "witchcraft"
>>tools for making the vibes more friendly : candles, incense ,
>>essencial oils and devic clearings. I have to mention that prior to
>>meeting the EMFs I was an skeptic of the "occult". I do not think
>>these tools are a solution to the problem, the solution is moving to
>>another house! I hope there are other more practical alternatives.
>>But they could make your life easier while you find out those other
>>alternatives.
>>
>>Candle Magick is recognized all around the world by certain people.
>>Candle magick is used by most religions and by most esoteric
>>groups. To me candle magick has an effect harmonizing living
>>quarters, the color of the candles is important. For instance, I
>>light three candles: one white, one gray and one blue; specific
>>colors for my geopathic situation. When I was living near the
>>telephone tower, the red candle was important. As I light them up
>>in a safe place outdoors (since they are gonna be on 24 hours they
>>the candle smoke is a pollutant to me) I mentally pray making clear
>>my intention of harmonizing the vibes inside my home. As they are
>>on 24 hours** they harmonize living quarters; I find this the most
>>effective although there are some books that describe spells for
>>harmonizing homes in which you only have to leave the candles on for
>>lets say 30 minutes, I have found them less powerful than letting
>>them on full time. Candle magick is a bit complex, but it can do
>>wonders.
>>
>>Burning incense also make the vibes around more bearable, more
>>friendly or even heavenly, however incense smoke is slightly toxic.
>>I have found that burnig incense outside the home along with a short
>>prayer making clear that our intention is to harmonize the vibes
>>inside the targeted home has a marked effect as well. It has to be
>>quality incense.
>>
>>Essencial oils also help but in my experience they are less
>>effective than both candles and incense but they can be done inside
>>safely!!
>>
>>And the last but not the least, there are devic clearings. It is a
>>spiritual work of gently invoking friendly nature spirits for doing
>>the job of clearing the space from noxious vibes. My current home
>>has received one of those clearings from a "home healer" and there
>>have been some beneficial effects.
>>
>>Although Devic clearings have only initially been used for geopathic
>>issues, some folks feel they have a lot of potencial in EMF
>>situations. Don't take me wrong... someone sometime said: "reality
>>is weirder than fiction".
>>
>>Some links to devic work and other vibe protection stuff:
>>
>>http://www.earthtransitions.com/
>>http://www.slimspurling.com/
>>http://www.ablecrystals.com/center.html
>>
>>
>>sincerely,
>>
>>Flavio
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perla1133

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Hi pete,

Sorry for my assumption there..

Have no real understanding of nature spirits, elementals, devas and the like but start to see its real. (the violet flame balances all these forces i guess and it works for me) Found a good website that explains how elementals are formed through our own thought, they are thoughtforms. it stated that thoughts are living things.. in the reading room under the heading EMOTIONS

The article on how to heal a broken aura was helpful and on purification of the human organism seemed to describe exactly what is going in with me (which i guess is kundalini rising). For those interested it is at http://www.mysticonion.org

Love and Light

PS: The judgement thing was not meant like that, just about everything is judgement of yourself and others and things, and i feel i have somehow get past that to be be free.. from dark/light to light..if you take to the reading room at the site there is more on that too, but there the bible comes in.. (In my opinion a guidebook to walk us through this, very misunderstood..but i should not get into to that one now i guess)

pete <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ellen,

Actually you misunderstood me.

I believe in the existance of spirits. But I believe there are both good
and bad. I believe they have purpose, intelligence and intent. I also
believe they inhabit a plane that may interact with ours in various
ways, and one of those may be related to EMF. Certainly in some form of
frequency (vibe) within our own world. I cant prove it, I dont really
want to, but I do think its possible, and even likely.

I am not here to judge anyone, just to learn, and help myself and those
around me who suffer from this very misunderstood and often lonely
affliction.

All the best
Pete

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