How long before someone can expect to see results? In other words, how should I give it before moving on to try something else? Always optimistic but not wanting to waste a lot of time. Thanks. Cara --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote: > > this is nonsense. Something cannot be good BECAUSE quackwatch writes > > about it. There should be another reason. > > Yes, and I listed the other reason -- I've tried it, and it > works for me. > > Marc |
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> How long before someone can expect to see results? In other words,
> how should I give it before moving on to try something else? > > Always optimistic but not wanting to waste a lot of time. Thanks. My philosophy is that you should not have to wait too long. The best stuff works almost immediately -- that is, within 24 hours. Other good stuff works within a few days. A lot of companies try to convince you that you should try their product for 30-90 days before seeing results. I feel that this is ridiculous. If you can't tell that it's helping you within a week or two, then it's not helping you enough to keep buying more of it. Marc |
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Franz,
That's true, but it's OK to joke around a little bit too. John M. ----- Original Message ----- From: franspppp To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Seasilver vs Sea Energy? Marc and all, this is nonsense. Something cannot be good BECAUSE quackwatch writes about it. There should be another reason. Frans --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote: > Oh, and note that since Quackwatch took the time > to write about how awful Seasilver is, you know > it must be good! :-) > > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/seasilver.html > > Marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Not neccesarily, although I agree that anything has to stand on its own
merits.. The unstated assumption is that Quackwatch is not a benign set of scientific principled old gentlemen, but a targetting process or another form of lobbying for those who wish to deny scientific advancement outside of the traditional controls . If that is true (unlikely, but definately possible when you consider the stakeholders and previous history) then the statement makes sense. :-) Cheers Pete franspppp wrote: > > Marc and all, > > this is nonsense. Something cannot be good BECAUSE quackwatch writes > about it. There should be another reason. > > Frans > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote: > > Oh, and note that since Quackwatch took the time > > to write about how awful Seasilver is, you know > > it must be good! :-) > > > > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/seasilver.html > > > > Marc > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > |
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Frans, Again I take umbrage, although I enjoy your questions..
Hi Frans, I am not sure how you can say none of these things exist. If somebody gets sick from something, and somebody else does not, then surely its a matter of sensitivity. If somebody who sits in a high EMF field gets headaches and somebody else does not, then surely its still a matter of sensitivity. I dont see why you call electrosensitivity non existant, when it is only defining a level of radiation sickness vs exposure to the source which surely is valid? - Is this just a terminology problem? Cheers Pete franspppp wrote: > > Dear Marc, > > I am sorry, but reading what Hulda Clark writes there is only one > conclusion, this is bare nonsense. That does not mean that there > could not be some useful recipe, maybe epsomsalt+citrus+olive does > clean a lot. > > And electrosensitivity certainly does not exist (I don't need a > quackwatcher for this). Neither does magnetosensitivity. The only > organ of the human body sensitive to electromagnetic radiation is the > eye, it registrates the visible light. > > Suffering from microwave sickness is not sensitivity, it is suffering > from the consequences of effects of HF radiation. The problem is the > body does not have an answer to the present HF radiation. And the > medical and scientific people do not understand it is not > sensitivity, not allergy, not asbestos, smoking or drinking, it is > radiation sickness, basically to be understood and researched like > every radiation sickness (X-rays, sun burn, ionising rays), dosimetry > (place), accumulation (time), parameters of the patient, etc. > > That the quackbusters loose the claim that homeopathy is illegal and > advertising should be forbidden does not prove homeopathy is true. It > does tell however that the quackbusters are a bit strange. Why do > they think it is their task to fight vehemently like that and indeed, > they often use the argument of ridiculising, which is not valid. > > Don't take me wrong, I am serious about HF-radiation sickness and I > am in a terrible situation now, because I can't even go to my office > for more than a short time and at home there are dect's and > wlan's in the near neighbourhood. There is no doubt that there is a > correlation between HF-fields and the suffering of 'electrosensitive' > people. There are many people who have found this, by trying > protection, leaving to a less radiated place, measuring by simple > devices like the Aaronia HF-meter. Their stories are consistent. > > But to tell you this is all because of bleach, and flukes in your > liver since there are solvents in your brain, you can kill the flukes > and the HIV (which never has been seen to exist) and bacteria by the > zapper and then new viruses raise from the dead bacteria, so you have > to use the zapper another seven minutes, and then you can remove your > liver stones (??) by epsom salt+citrus+olive oil, and you will not > get cancer because you just killed the cancer virus, it's all nuts. > > Of course it is frustrating that regular medicine and science doesn't > research and explain HF radiation sickness (yet?). Of course I am > glad if people find relieve or even a solution by cognitive therapy > or suggestion or alternative means - it is good! But no reason to > leave regular science and follow nutty people like Hulda Clark. > > By the way, the quackwatch article is about power lines and cancer. > According to IARC (WHO) ELF is possibly carcinogenic (Group 2B). > Twofold risk for childhood leukemia at 400 nT. See: > http://www-cie.iarc.fr/htdocs/monographs/vol80/80.html > So, quackwatch is wrong, there is reason for concern. > > But, 'electrosensitivity' is about much more than the risk for > cancer, namely about the harmfulness of HF radiation. > > I am curious about the thinking of all the others on this forum, > > Frans > > > > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12c76bc6q/M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=grphealth/S=1705062215:HM/EXP=1104685425/A=2495208/R=0/SIG=11egg01lg/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60188914> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > |
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