liposomal Vit C for E smog damage?

ginna i just ordered the stuff you sugested through amazon, Thank You for The tip! I will give it a try!

I am happy to hear you tried it and that it works :)

I have been trying a little myself, just with the asorbic acid powder (L-ascorbic Acid), which I haven’t had any noticeable problems with either. It’s hard to tell what is working becuase I am also on Vit D3/K2 and B12, potassium and phosphorus because I am low on all of those and also started a good multivitamin to make sure I am not lacking in any vitamins. I do feel a lot better in general. I started taking 1000 mg (1g) a day, then started taking that twice a day once in the morning and once at NIGHT. My sleep has been a problem as I keep waking up so I am glad you wrote about the sleep, because I never would have considered the Vit C might have something to do with it. I have been waking up a lot during the night and my back has felt burning and inflamed as well as gut (probably not my stomach but probably gallbladder). So I am going to try just taking it in the mornings only.

I have been using the asorbic acid powder from bulk supplements which can be purchased at their website bulksupplements.com or on amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Ascorbic-Vitamin-Powder-kilogram/dp/B00AYIM9Y8/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1527176526&sr=8-2&keywords=bulk%2Bsupplements%2Bascorbic%2Bacid&th=1

I got the small bag to try because it was only about $10 for 100 servings. They recommend taking up to 3 times daily. It tastes great, very sour, can just add it to my water. I usually just put 1 grams in a liter of water and drink it throughout the morning/ early afternoon. Now I am going to try 2 grams.

Amazing that others are wanting to try the Vit C too! Maybe you got a business going now! :)

I have noticed a reduction in my ES symptoms too, and just overall problems right now. It’s probably not just the Vit C but I think its a part of it!

Sorry for late response, I was in vacations in beautiful Greece.

We rented a brand new car, awful experience!! I still survived it though, after more than 2,000 km!!!

Anyway, I'm going to make some samples of lipo C and give it around to see. I'm truly interested in the effects, as it is looking too good to be true!

Well, I did a 3rd (or 4th) batch with Vit Bs (B6 and B12), plus something else. The effect is less clear, but it is still there.

The best is to try it pure, in GREAT concentrations (like the qualityliposomal site suggests), then add things later, if you wish. Only like that, you'll know how freaking amazing liposomal Vit C is.

I like the mixing idea now just to make my intake of supplements easier.

The problem of lack of sleep ended the moment I added binders, 2 times a day. Now I'm on binders only 1x a day, but the amount of Vit C is lower (as I mix other supplements inside).

I'm convinced that the lipo C moves toxins around too. It does not ONLY cancels toxins, as it is known, but also moves toxins around and that is maybe the reason I could not sleep well. I'm taking DE (diatomaceous earth), zeolites of good quality, chlorella, omega 3 and magnesium, in rotation (or daily).

Now I think I can be brave again and try to increase the dose of Vit C. I'm thinking to do 2 batches, one with pure Vit C, the other with a mix of Vit C and other B vitamins.

I walked, swam, was active despite great heat for about 12 days.
Despite the awful car too (electrosmog was bad...), I was still fine.

I took the liposomal mix of vitamins daily, once a day only. The effect as I said, was still there, but less clear (as I'm also afraid to take too much, so I only took one spoon or less).

Another thing I realized in the car, electrosmog-wise: after 10 minutes in the car, I felt my brain getting foggy, fatigue increasing (like when I take the Swiss trains). It would not get better UNLESS I fell asleep.

It happened every single time: if I felt tired (like when we take the airplaine, it makes your brain / soul tired after about an hour, right?), and allowed myself to sleep (because I was not driving...), well, I felt like re-booted. When the trip ended (after 1, 2 hours), I felt my brain still fresh, and I was energetic.

If I did not fall asleep, but kept awaken the whole trip (30 min, 50 min, 1 hour or more), it would take me hours to recover. I could still walk, but I would have brain fog, be much more tired than what I should be.

It's funny that some types of radiation (cell phone, or wifi, a computer or house wireless phones) will keep me awaken. Other types (train, car, airplane) feel like sucking my life energy, and make me tired, sleepy...

I did not take the liposomal Vit C in pure form to try to see if it cancels the effect, but it is something I'm considering to do next time.

One thing I'm sure is that if I slept in the car, even shortly, my energy battery was recharged and the car radiation affected me only a little.

I hope more people will try this lipo C experiment to share their opinions here!

> I hope more people will try this lipo C experiment to share their opinions here!

After seeing these messages, I bought some lipo C on Amazon, and can't say that I notice anything from it at all.

Marc

Hey Marc, which one did you buy?

I heard of other people not feeling anything either. Recipes vary, and brands vary. I know temperature higher than 35 celsius already damage the liposomes (so in summer, it's not a good idea to purchase them).

I never really felt anything with normal Vit C either, that is why I never tried to buy the liposomal version.

As it's hard to find them here, I decided to produce them at home. I swear this is one of the best things that happened to me, healthwise, in the last years.

My husband, who suffers from gout on and off, just commented it is funny he's not having any more gout attacks, despite our last 2 week trip in Greece (because he took quite some oily food and a lot of white whine, beer there). It usually takes a few days on this diet for him to get gout, but nothing happened (I was giving him lipo C daily).

It could be a coincidence, though.

Could you tell us the brand you took? How much you took? Thanks.

The lipo C I I bought was from LipoNaturals, which has 4.5 stars on Amazon.  :-)

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IMO09IO/

Although I do see now that I'm taking a 1/3 of the recommended dosage, so
it's possible that I need to take more.

Marc

 

I just got someone on skype today, who decided to shift from Mercola's liposomal C to home made version (the very concentrate one, from qualityliposomal.com).

She said she took 10 grams a day of Vit C from Mercola, and felt nothing.
She took the whole bottle / box, never felt anything.

She did her liposomal vit C yesterday, very thick liquid, as I said, from qualityliposomal recipe, and took quite some of it and got VERY strong reactions (her tummy was grumbling, she felt pain all over, but still could sleep well after).

today, I suggested her to take less, about 2 table spoons, which she did.

We continued talking, and minutes after she said her knee was in pain, her wrists too. Stinging pains (exactly like I felt). She never had arthritis though, as far as I know.

She said she feels it in her head too, like her brain feels like changing (she doesn't know if this is positive or negative though). She said she feels it going through her body, almost immediately after ingestion (which is what I feel, when I take enough of it).

Now I'm on a lower dose, so I feel barely anything (very mild).

Wednesday I'll make some more again, probably pure ascorbic acid again, and re-try to take more of it.

Let's see.

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 If you still feel nothing, could you try to increase the dose (you know that for very ill people, they give 100 GRAMS of vit C in one day, through IV)?

I'm not telling you to take 100 grams though. I think the website of Linus Pauling foundation recommends 10 grams a day last time I read it. It's already pretty much. I take about 1 gram, I think.

Good luck!

I tried taking 1 gram of the lipo C yesterday, and got a sharp pain in my head.  So that's something... not sure I would classify that as a "good" reaction, though....

Marc

 

Poor you... I hope the pain did not last too long.

Were you ever on chelators / mobilizers?
I get sharp pains, muscle weakness, joint weakness, with some chelators, when they work.

When they stop working, pain goes away too.

This lipoC caused me the exact pains from heavy metal mobilizers (cilantro, Phospholipid Extract, zeolites in the past, etc).

I am taking binders with the lipo C because I feel my liver gets more toxins, and without binders, I can't sleep well.

I do think the lipo C grabs some free radicals and we eliminate some toxins on its own, but I'm starting to feel that there are some that are stirred by the lipo C, that remain and cause some anxiety, liver pain, fatigue, insomnia too. That is why I'm taking daily binders again.

The initial problem with sleep is gone since I tuned my binders.

How are things going Marc?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFT5rdwrNV0

This is a lecture of Dr Susanne Humphries who explains what Vit C does to the body.

I could understand much better HOW vit C can help ES by watching the first 30 minutes of this video.

You'll start taking Vit C if you watch the first 40 minutes of her lecture!

E smog will cause damage (radiation damage) to the body, and Vit C is one way to counteract with the damage.

the best lecture on Vit C I've seen!

My last recipe of liposomal vitamins / minerals.
It tastes much better than only liposomal C.

And I do not react with insomnia!

My daughter is in the USA now for the next 2 weeks, so that is what I prepared for her (but I'm also taking it).

50 grams ascorbic acid (Vit C)
15 capsules Magnesium (citrate, that is what I got)
16 capsules Selenium (natural source)
6 capsules B-Life Protect (HPU supplements with zinc, B6, manganese)
17 capsules Niacin (B3)
40 grams of maca powder
4 dropperful of CBD oil
5 dropperful of cilantro tincture
3 droppers of concentrate D3
(I would add about same amount of K2 if I had home, but I haven't got it now....)
2 teaspoons of honey
230 ml of water
75 ml of vodka

I blend it all for about 5 minutes

Then added 70 grams of lecithin and blended for about 5 minutes more.

Then sonicated the whole thing for about 40 minutes.

It acts as Lipo C (joint cleansing /pain, sinuses feel cleaning from inside, etc), but it does not excite me as Lipo C does.

Lipo C alone causes me anxiety.

Daughter and I take 4 teaspoons of that liposomal mixture.  Then we take CoQ10 and Iodine.

In the evening, we take fish oil or krill oil with chlorella (because zinc, cilantro, vit C do mobilize heavy metals). And that is all.

After reading about teeth health, I'm thinking about cod liver oil.... Still wondering if I'll take it or not, due to heavy metals....

This is the other recipe I use in between:


- 40 grams organic turmeric powder
- 20 grams acerola (for the taste and bits of Vit C)
- 20 grams spirulina powder
- added bits of MSM in powder (not a lot, will add more next batch)
- 200 ml vodka
- 300 ml water
- 125 grams sunflower lecithin

Blend it all (except lecithin), when well dissolved, add lecithin, blend for more about 4-6 minutes, then use the ultrasound for minimum 30 minutes (with pause, checking the temperature - it has to be lower than 30 C).

I take just one spoon of that and remark after about 3-6 hours that my body gets toxic. I don't know what is pulling all these toxins off, probably both turmeric and spirulina.

I need intake of SA, at least 3 times a day, about 1 gram of Vit C every time, to keep feeling normal, not jittery, anxious.

The taste is very good compared with Lipo C. Not acid at all. The consistency is almost like jelly, very thick, like LivOn Lipo C. I only stir lightly and drink, so that I even taste the whole thing less. But it tastes good compared to Lipo C!

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I take either this or Liposomal C pure or the mixture above (with maca powder).

Next time I may add chlorella to this spirulina liposomal product. Probably chlorella and some barley grass powder.

Jinna do you use sunflower lecithin in all your recipes and it still works well?

I'm just wondering because the qualityliposomal website recommends granules.

I don't like soy, so it would be great if the sunflower liquid works too.

Yes, I use sunflower lecithin powder (it dissolves easier than granules, I read).

I also avoid soy (due to GMO contamination danger).

Just let me know if you do that.


Liposomals have been the biggest discovery of the last year.

When I actually started, I was skeptical it would go so deep inside.

The fact that it affects (cleans) most of my joints makes me keep going.

And the rush to the brain (if I take higher doses) feel also good!!

Plus, daughter and I stopped having all those nose allergies, then our food allergies are getting smaller, and on top, we never really fall very ill with infections like before (we still may catch them, but they look so mild, and like heal on their own).

Another thing that proves this thing is powerful: cuts on skin.
 I usually have problem to heal, it takes me many days (usually more than a week, specially when on hands, that get wet all the time).

Last cut was a bit deep, on thumb, and it did not take 2 days to heal (even with water, soap etc).
By day 3, the skin fell off, changed.
Day 4, I don't even see where the cut was. Sort of magic.

Practically any medicine, supplement will be much better absorbed with liposomals.

Even glutathione, CoQ10, melatonin, all difficult-to-absorb substances take a real short cut and go deep inside your body when in liposomal form.

Plus you save a lot of money for much more efficient delivery.

and lecithin itself, with phospholipids, is a healing substance!! All cell walls are formed with phospholipids, and will regenerate by contact with lecithin (it is building material for cell walls)!

If anyone would like to know more:

Cell walls made of double layer phospholipids:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_bilayer

Paper showing some cool drawings on how liposomes get fusioned with cell walls and how delivery of its content happen!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5043431/

A cool drawing showing how the double layer liposomal membrane will become part of the cell membrane: https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0005273612003501-fx1_lrg.jpg

Hey, I found an easy 9 min video about liposomes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZvvd5dhfM

> Yes, I use sunflower lecithin powder (it dissolves easier than granules, I read).

Thanks Jinna. This is really excellent and very interesting information. Thanks for putting it all in this thread.

Could you also tell me which sunflower lecithin powder you're using.
I want to try to replicate your setup to see if I can get the same effects.

I continue taking this stuff, now in different recipes, in rotation.

I did one with turmeric and spirulina, the other with vit C + maca, now I'm thinking to do one Vit C with MSM (but have to see if the MSM won't wash the vit C away... or cancel its effect).

I need to take binders FOR SURE if I'm on liposomal C, as it moves toxins around (probably heavy metals).

Lipo C alone is very strong for me, and I need either pulsing or mixing with other things so that I can sleep.

The recipe I follow is close to what qualityliposomalc.com suggests.

If anyone would like to know more, I can write here my exact recipe.

Or just go visit my FB page (that is only about liposomal supplements, called Liposomal Vitamins and Supplements). There are only 20 people there, very small, but I have some of my recipes there.