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Up to today have had phone service thru Comcast, my cable/internet provider. This has become intolerable so I am scheduled to have regular landline phone service (not DSL) from the phone company turned on today. However, I am just realizing that the phone line about to be "turned on" appears to enter the house right under my "safe" room where I sleep and normally have all electricity turned off. Not only that but there is a phone jack that is just inches away from my face while I sleep, which doesn't bother me now but I fear might once the phone service is turned on (facing an electrical outlet while I sleep is a killer for me, hence the worry about the phone jack). This is really the only tolerable sleeping location I have found in my whole house so I really don't want to mess that up.
Should I be worried??? Or are landlines generally tolerable, even by the most sensitive? Or maybe the phone line carries electricity regardless of whether service is turned off or on and so nothing will change in that regard? Thanks for any help. Russ |
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Regular phone lines have wi-fi. And electricity depending on electrical
issues. I have measured it I think we had issues w something going over our DSL. I feel less sensations under my feet w fiber optics. I would not want a phone jack near my bed. Maybe you can have them reroute the entrance to another room. I changed to a phone by our cable co. w fiberoptics. This line feels better than the phone co. I don't feel the wi-fi on the line. But fiberoptics may cause issues for some. You could try a separate line for phone & another line for DSL & not share. Kathy On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:48 AM, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > Up to today have had phone service thru Comcast, my cable/internet > provider. This has become intolerable so I am scheduled to have regular > landline phone service (not DSL) from the phone company turned on today. > However, I am just realizing that the phone line about to be "turned on" > appears to enter the house right under my "safe" room where I sleep and > normally have all electricity turned off. Not only that but there is a > phone jack that is just inches away from my face while I sleep, which > doesn't bother me now but I fear might once the phone service is turned on > (facing an electrical outlet while I sleep is a killer for me, hence the > worry about the phone jack). This is really the only tolerable sleeping > location I have found in my whole house so I really don't want to mess that > up. > > Should I be worried??? Or are landlines generally tolerable, even by the > most sensitive? Or maybe the phone line carries electricity regardless of > whether service is turned off or on and so nothing will change in that > regard? Thanks for any help. > > Russ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks Kathy. Yeah, my plan was to keep the phone and internet seperate. The internet will stay with the cable company, the phone line being "turned on" today will just be a regular signal (not DSL). Do your warnings about the phone jack and the wifi on the line still apply or is that only the case if it were DSL?
--- In [hidden email], Kathy Baumann <auburnone277@...> wrote: > > Regular phone lines have wi-fi. And electricity depending on electrical > issues. I have measured it I think we had issues w something going over > our DSL. I feel less sensations under my feet w fiber optics. > > I would not want a phone jack near my bed. Maybe you can have them reroute > the entrance to another room. I changed to a phone by our cable co. w > fiberoptics. This line feels better than the phone co. I don't feel the > wi-fi on the line. But fiberoptics may cause issues for some. > > You could try a separate line for phone & another line for DSL & not share. > > Kathy > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:48 AM, russel395 <russturk@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Up to today have had phone service thru Comcast, my cable/internet > > provider. This has become intolerable so I am scheduled to have regular > > landline phone service (not DSL) from the phone company turned on today. > > However, I am just realizing that the phone line about to be "turned on" > > appears to enter the house right under my "safe" room where I sleep and > > normally have all electricity turned off. Not only that but there is a > > phone jack that is just inches away from my face while I sleep, which > > doesn't bother me now but I fear might once the phone service is turned on > > (facing an electrical outlet while I sleep is a killer for me, hence the > > worry about the phone jack). This is really the only tolerable sleeping > > location I have found in my whole house so I really don't want to mess that > > up. > > > > Should I be worried??? Or are landlines generally tolerable, even by the > > most sensitive? Or maybe the phone line carries electricity regardless of > > whether service is turned off or on and so nothing will change in that > > regard? Thanks for any help. > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Yes, You may not be comfortable w ES near a phone jack. Frequencies may
still come w it. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:58 PM, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > Thanks Kathy. Yeah, my plan was to keep the phone and internet seperate. > The internet will stay with the cable company, the phone line being "turned > on" today will just be a regular signal (not DSL). Do your warnings about > the phone jack and the wifi on the line still apply or is that only the > case if it were DSL? > > --- In [hidden email], Kathy Baumann <auburnone277@...> wrote: > > > > Regular phone lines have wi-fi. And electricity depending on electrical > > issues. I have measured it I think we had issues w something going over > > our DSL. I feel less sensations under my feet w fiber optics. > > > > I would not want a phone jack near my bed. Maybe you can have them > reroute > > the entrance to another room. I changed to a phone by our cable co. w > > fiberoptics. This line feels better than the phone co. I don't feel the > > wi-fi on the line. But fiberoptics may cause issues for some. > > > > You could try a separate line for phone & another line for DSL & not > share. > > > > Kathy > > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:48 AM, russel395 <russturk@...> wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Up to today have had phone service thru Comcast, my cable/internet > > > provider. This has become intolerable so I am scheduled to have regular > > > landline phone service (not DSL) from the phone company turned on > today. > > > However, I am just realizing that the phone line about to be "turned > on" > > > appears to enter the house right under my "safe" room where I sleep and > > > normally have all electricity turned off. Not only that but there is a > > > phone jack that is just inches away from my face while I sleep, which > > > doesn't bother me now but I fear might once the phone service is > turned on > > > (facing an electrical outlet while I sleep is a killer for me, hence > the > > > worry about the phone jack). This is really the only tolerable sleeping > > > location I have found in my whole house so I really don't want to mess > that > > > up. > > > > > > Should I be worried??? Or are landlines generally tolerable, even by > the > > > most sensitive? Or maybe the phone line carries electricity regardless > of > > > whether service is turned off or on and so nothing will change in that > > > regard? Thanks for any help. > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Russ,
Like you, I used to have phone, Cable TV, and internet bundled. It finally dawned on me that that was just like being on the internet, since it was the same line. So I did what you're doing, and separated lines. I have a corded phone on a land line. Improved, but I still have problems with phones - all phones. I have to limit phone time. I also am trying to figure out if it makes a difference what kind of phone system is on the other end! I have figured out that phone conversation that is emotional or animated in any way exacerbates the problem! And something else weird... my phone has a light that lights when the phone rings. I have noticed lately, with the unusual stormy (electric) weather we're having, the light on the phone spikes/lights when no one is calling! So there is electrical activity coming through the line from storm through ground or somewhere. Good luck! Judy --- In [hidden email], "russel395" <russturk@...> wrote: > > Up to today have had phone service thru Comcast, my cable/internet provider. This has become intolerable so I am scheduled to have regular landline phone service (not DSL) from the phone company turned on today. However, I am just realizing that the phone line about to be "turned on" appears to enter the house right under my "safe" room where I sleep and normally have all electricity turned off. Not only that but there is a phone jack that is just inches away from my face while I sleep, which doesn't bother me now but I fear might once the phone service is turned on (facing an electrical outlet while I sleep is a killer for me, hence the worry about the phone jack). This is really the only tolerable sleeping location I have found in my whole house so I really don't want to mess that up. > > Should I be worried??? Or are landlines generally tolerable, even by the most sensitive? Or maybe the phone line carries electricity regardless of whether service is turned off or on and so nothing will change in that regard? Thanks for any help. > > Russ > |
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Thanks Judy and Kathy. The landline was turned on today and it is definitely bothering me so I am going to have to switch back to the cable phone. The cable phone bothered me as well but not as bad as this. I think to some extent you can become sort of used to certain frequencies and so a new frequency (or wave pattern or whatever), while not necessarily worse, might bother you more than the one you
re used to. Just a thought. By the way, with a cable phone, while the cable line itself is fiber optic and shielded, I just have a regular phone cord going from the modem to the phone and I think there is some leakage here. Is there a better type of cord to use? Thanks! Russ --- In [hidden email], "judyl_nev" <judyl_nev@...> wrote: > > Russ, > > Like you, I used to have phone, Cable TV, and internet bundled. It finally dawned on me that that was just like being on the internet, since it was the same line. So I did what you're doing, and separated lines. I have a corded phone on a land line. Improved, but I still have problems with phones - all phones. I have to limit phone time. I also am trying to figure out if it makes a difference what kind of phone system is on the other end! > > I have figured out that phone conversation that is emotional or animated in any way exacerbates the problem! And something else weird... my phone has a light that lights when the phone rings. I have noticed lately, with the unusual stormy (electric) weather we're having, the light on the phone spikes/lights when no one is calling! So there is electrical activity coming through the line from storm through ground or somewhere. > > Good luck! > > Judy > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "russel395" <russturk@> wrote: > > > > Up to today have had phone service thru Comcast, my cable/internet provider. This has become intolerable so I am scheduled to have regular landline phone service (not DSL) from the phone company turned on today. However, I am just realizing that the phone line about to be "turned on" appears to enter the house right under my "safe" room where I sleep and normally have all electricity turned off. Not only that but there is a phone jack that is just inches away from my face while I sleep, which doesn't bother me now but I fear might once the phone service is turned on (facing an electrical outlet while I sleep is a killer for me, hence the worry about the phone jack). This is really the only tolerable sleeping location I have found in my whole house so I really don't want to mess that up. > > > > Should I be worried??? Or are landlines generally tolerable, even by the most sensitive? Or maybe the phone line carries electricity regardless of whether service is turned off or on and so nothing will change in that regard? Thanks for any help. > > > > Russ > > > |
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You might try using snap on ferrites from ebay on the phone line cord and also the handset cord. And also put carbon fiber paper (just enter carbon fiber on ebay search), on the phone itself..
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thanks. i'll check those things out.
--- In [hidden email], "AliasSmithand Jones" <quaixemen@...> wrote: > > You might try using snap on ferrites from ebay on the phone line cord and also the handset cord. And also put carbon fiber paper (just enter carbon fiber on ebay search), on the phone itself.. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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i have measured the EMF on all phones and
they are all off the scale... cell phone, land line, cordless phones. must be all those little electrons pushing through all that sound. therefore, i use my computer with a magicjack - use a microphone to speak into and the computer speakers to hear. i now understand better why i've always felt uncomfortable speaking on the phone - and why i have felt totally FRANTIC using a cell phone. i have a little cell phone i take when i feel i need an emergency phone in my car, but even then, i use its speaker function. love, patricia On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:21 PM, russel395 wrote: > thanks. i'll check those things out. > > --- In [hidden email], "AliasSmithand Jones" <quaixemen@...> wrote: >> >> You might try using snap on ferrites from ebay on the phone line cord and also the handset cord. And also put carbon fiber paper (just enter carbon fiber on ebay search), on the phone itself.. |
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Thanks Patricia. Very helpful.
--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote: > > i have measured the EMF on all phones and > they are all off the scale... cell phone, land > line, cordless phones. must be all those > little electrons pushing through all that sound. > therefore, > i use my computer with a magicjack - use a > microphone to speak into and the computer > speakers to hear. i now understand better > why i've always felt uncomfortable speaking > on the phone - and why i have felt totally > FRANTIC using a cell phone. i have a little > cell phone i take when i feel i need an > emergency phone in my car, but even then, > i use its speaker function. > love, patricia > > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:21 PM, russel395 wrote: > > > thanks. i'll check those things out. > > > > --- In [hidden email], "AliasSmithand Jones" <quaixemen@> wrote: > >> > >> You might try using snap on ferrites from ebay on the phone line cord and also the handset cord. And also put carbon fiber paper (just enter carbon fiber on ebay search), on the phone itself.. > |
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Patricia,
Please explain how a magic jack works? I guess we'd have to leave the computer going to get phone calls. It's not a good idea to do that for many of us, b/c of emfs put out by my older computer cpu & our electric bill would be higher. I have vibration on the floor from cpus. Maybe w a laptop w/o wi-fi would work well. Kathy I will try the ferrits on my landline phone. On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>wrote: > ** > > > i have measured the EMF on all phones and > they are all off the scale... cell phone, land > line, cordless phones. must be all those > little electrons pushing through all that sound. > therefore, > i use my computer with a magicjack - use a > microphone to speak into and the computer > speakers to hear. i now understand better > why i've always felt uncomfortable speaking > on the phone - and why i have felt totally > FRANTIC using a cell phone. i have a little > cell phone i take when i feel i need an > emergency phone in my car, but even then, > i use its speaker function. > love, patricia > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:21 PM, russel395 wrote: > > > thanks. i'll check those things out. > > > > --- In [hidden email], "AliasSmithand Jones" <quaixemen@...> > wrote: > >> > >> You might try using snap on ferrites from ebay on the phone line cord > and also the handset cord. And also put carbon fiber paper (just enter > carbon fiber on ebay search), on the phone itself.. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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What are ferrits and where do you get them?
Thanks, Esther On Dec 22, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Kathy Baumann wrote: > Patricia, > > > I will try the ferrits on my landline phone. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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"Ferrites" not ferrits. :-)
You can get them at Radio Shack I believe, and also online. These are things that you can put around your cables, and they remove some of the RF noise that might be riding on the cable. You've probably already seen them built-into cables of electronics/ computer mice, etc. They are usually a small cylindrical thing that surrounds the wire. Here's what the snap-on types look like: http://static2.djtechtools.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ferrite.gif Marc On December 23, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote: > What are ferrits and where do you get them? |
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You can get the snap on ferrites on ebay. Put those words into the search on ebay once you've logged in.
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Just a comment... My sister has a Magic Jack and I can't stand talking to her when she's on that phone. It agitates me and makes me sorta batty!
Judy --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote: > > i have measured the EMF on all phones and > they are all off the scale... cell phone, land > line, cordless phones. must be all those > little electrons pushing through all that sound. > therefore, > i use my computer with a magicjack - use a > microphone to speak into and the computer > speakers to hear. i now understand better > why i've always felt uncomfortable speaking > on the phone - and why i have felt totally > FRANTIC using a cell phone. i have a little > cell phone i take when i feel i need an > emergency phone in my car, but even then, > i use its speaker function. > love, patricia > |
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hi, kathy.
i bought mine a long time ago when all they had was a 'standard magicjack'. since i am on the computer 24/7 (or at least it seems that way), i don't really need the type that you can use when your computer is off. it cost me something like $50 or $60 for the first year and that included the service for the first year... $20/year after that. hmm... i see that right now it costs $35 - they're having a half-price sale. i love this company - they make phone service affordable. you can call anywhere, anytime, in the US, canada, etc... not sure exactly where... maybe mexico... for $20 a year. long distance can be arranged at a low rate, but i don't use that... i use skype for overseas calls. they sent me a little gadget that i put into a USB port in my computer. there is a telephone outlet in the magicJack gadget, but since i don't like to use telephones, due to the EMF, i opted for setting it up through my computer. (if i did use a phone, i'd use a wired phone and i'd put it on "speaker".) on the magic jack menu, at "volume/headset control" you can designate phone or headset... however, even a headset has that same nasty high EMF field. so i opt for listening through my computer's built-in speakers. i speak through a standard microphone - audio-technica - connected to an M-audio mobilePre USB (a "pre-amp") - and these days you can buy a USB mic if you prefer. then i just call and receive calls - just like through a phone, but through my computer instead. when i first signed up with magicJack, i kept my land line because i had that phone number for over 20 years and everyone knew it... and i'd advertised it for my business. so when it became possible to "port" my old number to magicJack, i did that. it costs me an additional $10 a year, so that's a grand total of $30/year for phone service all over the nation and canada. love, patricia On Dec 22, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Kathy Baumann wrote: > Patricia, > > Please explain how a magic jack works? I guess we'd have to leave the > computer going > to get phone calls. It's not a good idea to do that for many of us, b/c of > emfs put out by > my older computer cpu & our electric bill would be higher. I have vibration > on the floor from cpus. > > Maybe w a laptop w/o wi-fi would work well. Kathy > > I will try the ferrits on my landline phone. > > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> i have measured the EMF on all phones and >> they are all off the scale... cell phone, land >> line, cordless phones. must be all those >> little electrons pushing through all that sound. >> therefore, >> i use my computer with a magicjack - use a >> microphone to speak into and the computer >> speakers to hear. i now understand better >> why i've always felt uncomfortable speaking >> on the phone - and why i have felt totally >> FRANTIC using a cell phone. i have a little >> cell phone i take when i feel i need an >> emergency phone in my car, but even then, >> i use its speaker function. >> love, patricia |
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judy, the magicjack is not the phone...
what kind of phone is she using? that might be where the problem lies. otherwise, the magicjack is just the 'phone company'. when my account has been set incorrectly, i've had problems with it, but when i then set it correctly, it is just like any other phone service. love, patricia On Dec 23, 2012, at 12:33 PM, judyl_nev wrote: > Just a comment... My sister has a Magic Jack and I can't stand talking to her when she's on that phone. It agitates me and makes me sorta batty! > > Judy > > --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote: >> >> i have measured the EMF on all phones and >> they are all off the scale... cell phone, land >> line, cordless phones. must be all those >> little electrons pushing through all that sound. >> therefore, >> i use my computer with a magicjack - use a >> microphone to speak into and the computer >> speakers to hear. i now understand better >> why i've always felt uncomfortable speaking >> on the phone - and why i have felt totally >> FRANTIC using a cell phone. i have a little >> cell phone i take when i feel i need an >> emergency phone in my car, but even then, >> i use its speaker function. >> love, patricia > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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do you know what agitates you about it? is it in an emf way?
--- In [hidden email], "judyl_nev" <judyl_nev@...> wrote: > > Just a comment... My sister has a Magic Jack and I can't stand talking to her when she's on that phone. It agitates me and makes me sorta batty! > > Judy > > --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@> wrote: > > > > i have measured the EMF on all phones and > > they are all off the scale... cell phone, land > > line, cordless phones. must be all those > > little electrons pushing through all that sound. > > therefore, > > i use my computer with a magicjack - use a > > microphone to speak into and the computer > > speakers to hear. i now understand better > > why i've always felt uncomfortable speaking > > on the phone - and why i have felt totally > > FRANTIC using a cell phone. i have a little > > cell phone i take when i feel i need an > > emergency phone in my car, but even then, > > i use its speaker function. > > love, patricia > > > > |
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FYI, this is supposed to be a low-emf landline phone. Haven't tried it myself but the guy who wrote the review was one of the designers/engineers for the low-EMF housing community in Arizona (Snowflake), so I imagine he knows what he's talking about. Obviously won't help if there are emfs coming in on the line, but at least the phone itself won't add anything.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1URNAM1A35WJN Russ --- In [hidden email], "russel395" <russturk@...> wrote: > > Up to today have had phone service thru Comcast, my cable/internet provider. This has become intolerable so I am scheduled to have regular landline phone service (not DSL) from the phone company turned on today. However, I am just realizing that the phone line about to be "turned on" appears to enter the house right under my "safe" room where I sleep and normally have all electricity turned off. Not only that but there is a phone jack that is just inches away from my face while I sleep, which doesn't bother me now but I fear might once the phone service is turned on (facing an electrical outlet while I sleep is a killer for me, hence the worry about the phone jack). This is really the only tolerable sleeping location I have found in my whole house so I really don't want to mess that up. > > Should I be worried??? Or are landlines generally tolerable, even by the most sensitive? Or maybe the phone line carries electricity regardless of whether service is turned off or on and so nothing will change in that regard? Thanks for any help. > > Russ > |
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hmm... i don't believe it.
when sound comes out of any device, there is EMF. i left a message at his comment. perhaps he will respond. love, patricia Begin forwarded message: > FYI, this is supposed to be a low-emf landline phone. Haven't tried it myself but the guy who wrote the review was one of the designers/engineers for the low-EMF housing community in Arizona (Snowflake), so I imagine he knows what he's talking about. Obviously won't help if there are emfs coming in on the line, but at least the phone itself won't add anything. > > http://www.amazon.com/review/R1URNAM1A35WJN > > Russ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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