inquiry re: MCS/EMF resources

>
>
> Interesting observation:
> * A battery-powered clock doesn't register on Trifield meter.
> * However, a battery-powered hand-sewing machine does register on Trifield
> meter.
>
> How does this happen? I read this:
> "Direct current motors, when they're spinning, put out alternating fields
> as well as DC fields, which are detectable on an AC gaussmeter when their
> rpms are within the meter's frequency range."
> I read this from
> http://electromagnetichealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/emf_test_of_2007_toyota_prius_hybrid-3.pdf:
>
> Good thing that Singer is selling the manual hand-crank sewing machines
> again. Completely mechanical...
>
> Otherwise, if the battery is not in use, maybe another consideration is the
> chemicals in the battery?
>
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Loni <loni326@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have a battery operated mattress pad I would love to use in the winter
> when sleeping outdoors but I react to it so can't use it. Loni
> >
>
>  
>

>
>
> Hi all, thanks to everyone who has had suggestions for Nicole and me. Just
> quickly, to clarify her reactions to batteries, that is to any
> battery-operated device, including tiny LED flashlights. She is fine if the
> item is off, but once turned on the tiny magnetic field is enough to give
> her symptoms, even from a good distance away. We have to use candles (found
> one that is MCS safe for her!), and wind up watch. Yes, she has felt tiny
> watch batteries!
>
> best,
> Jason
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>

>
> Can you say more about the sewing machine? I can't find it...
> Bill
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:53 AM, emraware <emraware@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Interesting observation:
> > * A battery-powered clock doesn't register on Trifield meter.
> > * However, a battery-powered hand-sewing machine does register on Trifield
> > meter.
> >
> > How does this happen? I read this:
> > "Direct current motors, when they're spinning, put out alternating fields
> > as well as DC fields, which are detectable on an AC gaussmeter when their
> > rpms are within the meter's frequency range."
> > I read this from
> > http://electromagnetichealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/emf_test_of_2007_toyota_prius_hybrid-3.pdf:
> >
> > Good thing that Singer is selling the manual hand-crank sewing machines
> > again. Completely mechanical...
> >
> > Otherwise, if the battery is not in use, maybe another consideration isthe
> > chemicals in the battery?
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Loni <loni326@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a battery operated mattress pad I would love to use in the winter
> > when sleeping outdoors but I react to it so can't use it. Loni
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Do you mean the handcrank mechanical sewing machine? It's completely
> powered mechanically by rotating by hand. It's a little hard in that one
> hand is used up by rotating the crank, but it's still work-able.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-XKviOoCV8&feature=related
> http://www.allbrands.com/products/abp07138.html
>
> There's also a treadle (foot pedal) version, also purely mechanical.
> However, takes up more space.
>
> I've heard industrial seamstresses may have higher rate of Alzheimer's
> possibly due to the AC EMF. Hence, I've wanted to get one of these for a
> while. Previously, they were only antiques available that I could find, but
> now apparently it's being sold new.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Bill Bruno
> <wbruno@...> wrote:
> >
> > Can you say more about the sewing machine? I can't find it...
> > Bill
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:53 AM, emraware <emraware@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting observation:
> > > * A battery-powered clock doesn't register on Trifield meter.
> > > * However, a battery-powered hand-sewing machine does register on
> Trifield
> > > meter.
> > >
> > > How does this happen? I read this:
> > > "Direct current motors, when they're spinning, put out alternating
> fields
> > > as well as DC fields, which are detectable on an AC gaussmeter when
> their
> > > rpms are within the meter's frequency range."
> > > I read this from
> > >
> http://electromagnetichealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/emf_test_of_2007_toyota_prius_hybrid-3.pdf:
> > >
> > > Good thing that Singer is selling the manual hand-crank sewing machines
> > > again. Completely mechanical...
> > >
> > > Otherwise, if the battery is not in use, maybe another consideration is
> the
> > > chemicals in the battery?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups.com>, Loni <loni326@>
>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a battery operated mattress pad I would love to use in the
> winter
> > > when sleeping outdoors but I react to it so can't use it. Loni
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>

>
>
> Hi all, thanks to everyone who has had suggestions for Nicole and me. Just
> quickly, to clarify her reactions to batteries, that is to any
> battery-operated device, including tiny LED flashlights. She is fine if the
> item is off, but once turned on the tiny magnetic field is enough to give
> her symptoms, even from a good distance away. We have to use candles (found
> one that is MCS safe for her!), and wind up watch. Yes, she has felt tiny
> watch batteries!
>
> best,
> Jason
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>

>
>
> My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to
> power their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I haveto
> keep moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at the
> other since distance from it is the only thing that helps.
>
> Steph
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]<marc%40ufoseries.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email] <marc%40ufoseries.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] batteries
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24
>
>
>
>
> > I just assumed Charles was talking about people like me, who drain
> > batteries.
>
> You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries...
> in fact, this person put a "D" battery on top of their computer monitor
> because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper
> than an EMF protection device, that's for sure!
>
> Marc
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>

>
>
> No Bill
>
> My reaction is independent of it being connected to the charger and plugged
> in on charge - I still react to it. With my eyes closed I could tell you
> whether it was in the room or not.
>
> Steph
>
> --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] batteries
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 15:31
>
>
> But is it connected to a charger when you react?
> The DC electric field should be very easy to screen.
> A piece of foil across the (insulated) connectors should
> do it (don't short out the battery).
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]<reader41%40ymail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to
> > power their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I have
> to
> > keep moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at the
> > other since distance from it is the only thing that helps.
> >
> > Steph
> >
> > --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]<marc%40ufoseries.com>
> <marc%40ufoseries.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email] <marc%40ufoseries.com> <marc%
> 40ufoseries.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] batteries
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>
> > Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I just assumed Charles was talking about people like me, who drain
> > > batteries.
> >
> > You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries...
> > in fact, this person put a "D" battery on top of their computer monitor
> > because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper
> > than an EMF protection device, that's for sure!
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
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