hi my name is karen, i feel like im at a AA meeting hahaha, as you can
see i still have humour, i came across your website from a links page on the electosenstivity.org website, im not 100% sure if i do suffer from this(or im just compleatly mad) but if i describe my symptoms to you maybe you can help me, 12months ago i was described a antideppresant called citalopram 20mgs, due to a loss of a loved one, which spiraled me into a nervous break down at the time i suffered severe panic attacks , i took them for 12months then just recently i stoped taking them, one day after stopping them i started to get these symptoms at first i thought it was because as you no antidepressents supress certian parts of the brain, and the brain being so complex as a biologist as you no were made up of so many atoms electrons etc etc, so i just thought the symptoms i was having was a side affect to stoping the tablets but apparently its not, these are my symptoms, the only way i can describe them is have you ever took out a plug of a appliance and by accident you touch the plug and you get a shock, wel i get that feeling every half hour and have done for the past 3 weeks, also if i go to a place were there is flouresent lights it starts again it feels like im going to fit, i never do it just feels like it, what happens is i feel very sick and sometimes i get a severe headace also my hearing is like 100 mega times more eg if a car goes past me it feels like im at a stadium i feel the vibration go right through me, if the phone rings weather its a mobile or a house phone it feels like its ringing inside me i no it sounds crazy but its the only way i can describe what im feeling, i stand by my pc i get a shock again, when i sleep at night i have dreams of falling i jolt upright and its like im having a electric shock only for a few seconds but its very frightening, i now have insomnia as im scared of geting a shock, if i go near anything metal in a shop eg a lift or a shelf i get a severe shock, im like a walking electric pylon i also have had experances of plugging in a hoover and walking away for a second i felt a electrical surge next thing the hover turned on by itself ive sat by the tv and the remote is on the other side of the room and the tv switches chanels very spooky like a scene from the film carrie ,i was told i had a sixth sense and im cabable of psychokinetics, it could be a case of mind over matter but i realy dont think it is im at my witts end my doctor sugests to go back on antidepresents something i dont want to do, as i like to have my own mind, and although i must admit last year after my breakdown i really did need them i feel ok now just this matter of finding out what it actualy is im suffering from is it side affects of stoping taking the medication or do i suffer from electrosensitivity? on the main website it doesnt seem to mention anything about psychokinetics or eletrical surges through your body the only thing it does say is adversion to bright lights migrane and feeling faint no mention of feeling like a electric pylon , you could get a radio signal off me im that live right now!! putting jokes aside i guess this is quite a serious thing and i would be very greatfull for some advice on how to deal with this i dont fancy spending the rest of my life like this is there anything i can do? also i find i can only wear certain clothes eg cotton anything else and its like im a dodgem car you no that feeling when you have something nylon on and you can actualy hear the eletricty and it sticks to your skin wel thats what its like for me i can assure you i am of sane mind i think hehehe but i cant asure you im going to stay that way unless i get some advice on how to deal with this my doctor doesnt have much info on this subject like i said his answer is to supress it with antidepresents, perahaps if i wear rubber wellies oh thats another thing i can sense a lighting storm maybe 3 hours before it happens as my hair stands on end, i look forward to some advice from you i hope i made you smile a little can you make me smile and give me some advice on how to deal with this thanks your sincerly karen xx |
hi karen
how interesting.. 2 years ago i started getting burning on my face when i was outside, around my cheeks and temple areas really bad guess what, this was happening when i was coming off citalopram, now i stayed off it for 16 months and my symptoms got worse and i started having problems with computer screens and lighting in general.. i have had many many blood tests, it seems maybe that the citalopram withdrawal could well have caused this, also there could be and usually is an underlying problem with detoxing this drug from the system thus creating these symptoms. I have found that i do not detox properly this could well be due to haven been on so many meds over the years, i still have severe photosensitivity and i am back on meds due to the consequences of being ill from this. I have also recently found out from an atp profile blood test that i have a dysfunctional mitochondria and that i have a sensitivity to mercury. My acupuncturist has also seen similar problems with ppl coming off ssri's best pete On 30 Mar 2007, at 01:43, karen935875 wrote: > hi my name is karen, i feel like im at a AA meeting hahaha, as you can > see i > still have humour, i came across your website from a links page on the > electosenstivity.org website, im not 100% sure if i do suffer from > this(or > im just compleatly mad) but if i describe my symptoms to you maybe you > can > help me, 12months ago i was described a antideppresant called > citalopram > 20mgs, due to a loss of a loved one, which spiraled me into a nervous > break > down at the time i suffered severe panic attacks , i took them for > 12months > then just recently i stoped taking them, one day after stopping them i > started to get these symptoms at first i thought it was because as you > no > antidepressents supress certian parts of the brain, and the brain > being > so > complex as a biologist as you no were made up of so many atoms > electrons > etc etc, so i just thought the symptoms i was having was a side affect > to > stoping the tablets but apparently its not, these are my symptoms, the > only > way i can describe them is have you ever took out a plug of a > appliance > and > by accident you touch the plug and you get a shock, wel i get that > feeling > every half hour and have done for the past 3 weeks, also if i go to a > place > were there is flouresent lights it starts again it feels like im going > to > fit, i never do it just feels like it, what happens is i feel very > sick > and > sometimes i get a severe headace also my hearing is like 100 mega > times > more > eg if a car goes past me it feels like im at a stadium i feel the > vibration > go right through me, if the phone rings weather its a mobile or a > house > phone it feels like its ringing inside me i no it sounds crazy but its > the > only way i can describe what im feeling, i stand by my pc i get a > shock > again, when i sleep at night i have dreams of falling i jolt upright > and > its > like im having a electric shock only for a few seconds but its very > frightening, i now have insomnia as im scared of geting a shock, if i > go > near anything metal in a shop eg a lift or a shelf i get a severe > shock, > im > like a walking electric pylon i also have had experances of plugging > in > a > hoover and walking away for a second i felt a electrical surge next > thing > the hover turned on by itself ive sat by the tv and the remote is on > the > other side of the room and the tv switches chanels very spooky like a > scene > from the film carrie ,i was told i had a sixth sense and im cabable of > psychokinetics, it could be a case of mind over matter but i realy > dont > think it is im at my witts end my doctor sugests to go back on > antidepresents something i dont want to do, as i like to have my own > mind, > and although i must admit last year after my breakdown i really did > need > them i feel ok now just this matter of finding out what it actualy is > im > suffering from is it side affects of stoping taking the medication or > do > i > suffer from electrosensitivity? on the main website it doesnt seem to > mention anything about psychokinetics or eletrical surges through your > body > the only thing it does say is adversion to bright lights migrane and > feeling > faint no mention of feeling like a electric pylon , you could get a > radio > signal off me im that live right now!! putting jokes aside i guess > this > is > quite a serious thing and i would be very greatfull for some advice on > how > to deal with this i dont fancy spending the rest of my life like this > is > there anything i can do? also i find i can only wear certain clothes > eg > cotton anything else and its like im a dodgem car you no that feeling > when > you have something nylon on and you can actualy hear the eletricty and > it > sticks to your skin wel thats what its like for me i can assure you i > am > of > sane mind i think hehehe but i cant asure you im going to stay that > way > unless i get some advice on how to deal with this my doctor doesnt > have > much > info on this subject like i said his answer is to supress it with > antidepresents, perahaps if i wear rubber wellies oh thats another > thing > i > can sense a lighting storm maybe 3 hours before it happens as my hair > stands > on end, i look forward to some advice from you i hope i made you > smile a > little can you make me smile and give me some advice on how to deal > with > this thanks your sincerly karen xx > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 3/30/2007 8:12:04 AM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: i > can sense a lighting storm maybe 3 hours before it happens as my hair > stands > on end, i look forward to some advice from you i hope i made you > smile a > little can you make me smile and give me some advice on how to deal > with > this thanks your sincerly karen xx > It seems that your nervous system has become oversensitive most likely due to the drugs. If you supress one thing then the body will try to balance it elesewhere, if it cant it will act like an uncoiled spring when it can. As you are coming off the citolapram, so your cns and brain will need to re-adjust form the chemical cusion it has been sleeping on for a while. Sugesst, plenty of cardio exersise, water intake, fresh air, keep off mobiles, general ES advice.(see electrosensitivity.org.uk) , try yoga, herbal teas and keep dredging up the positive thoughts. PS - Also we must not ignore the fact that there is plenty of research into the effects of microwaves and the synergistic effects with chemicals in our bodies wether they are artificial or natural. Paul UK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Karen,
Well you don't seem 'mad' to me. It sounds like EMF sensitivity. I am wondering if it's worth getting a neurotransmitter test to see if you are off-balance on one of theneurotransmitters that could possibly be supplemented...anyone know if this might at all be related? Julie www.PlanetThrive.com --- In [hidden email], "karen935875" <karenkendal564@...> wrote: > > hi my name is karen, i feel like im at a AA meeting hahaha, as you can > see i still have humour, i came across your website from a links page on the > electosenstivity.org website, im not 100% sure if i do suffer from > this(or im just compleatly mad) but if i describe my symptoms to you maybe you > can help me, |
neurotransmitter test is a waste of money if you ask me..
On 30 Mar 2007, at 16:27, lunagirl32002 wrote: > Hi Karen, > Well you don't seem 'mad' to me. It sounds like EMF sensitivity. I am > wondering if it's worth > getting a neurotransmitter test to see if you are off-balance on one > of the neurotransmitters > that could possibly be supplemented...anyone know if this might at > all be related? > Julie > www.PlanetThrive.com > > --- In [hidden email], "karen935875" <karenkendal564@...> > wrote: > > > > hi my name is karen, i feel like im at a AA meeting hahaha, as you > can > > see i still have humour, i came across your website from a links > page on the > > electosenstivity.org website, im not 100% sure if i do suffer from > > this(or im just compleatly mad) but if i describe my symptoms to > you maybe you > > can help me, > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yes I think it is all related, neurotransmitters, chemicals, nerves,
cells, detox systems, etc. I am seeing Dr. Neal Speight and so far we have only done testing and no supplementation. This is an article that he co-authored and I think explains a lot. It may not be what we all are going through but definitely has things everyone can address. Andrew The Detoxx System: Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes By John Foster, M.D., Patricia Kane, Ph.D., Neal Speight, M.D. Chronically ill individuals suffering from neurotoxin exposure impacts patient populations with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, MS, Autism, Cardiovascular Disease, Depression, Rheumatoid Arthritis, IBS, Infertility, ALS, Parkinsons, Lyme, Toxic Building Syndrome, Estuary Associated Syndrome, Psychosis, Diabetes without family Hx, Optic Neuritis, Refractory Heavy Metal Toxicity, Pulmonary Hemorrhage, Stroke. Patients diagnosed with these chronic illnesses may be potentially classified as 'Neurotoxic Membrane Syndrome' (NMS) with the endothelial cell membrane as the target of degeneration. While hypercoagulation involves a myriad of proteins, it is ultimately a membrane event, essentially disrupting the phospholipids that structure the membrane. Agglomeration (blocked cellular exposure to blood flow/nutrients and impaired cell-to-cell communication) indicates elevation of phospholipase A2 and the uncoupling of eicosanoids from the cell membrane causing inflammation. The agglomeration that eventually occurs is, in essence, a product of a weakened membrane, and ultimately a disturbed red cell fatty acid profile. Clinical Research We have established a biomedical protocol in our clinics, The Haverford Wellness Center in Havertown, PA and The Center for Wellness in Charlotte, NC for patients with neurotoxic illness. Our biomedical approach is an attempt to reach the systemic nature of these tenacious neurotoxic syndromes and provide clinically proven methods that eradicate neurotoxins. Our course of action is that of freeing the patient of pervasive symptoms of neurotoxic illness in a noninvasive manner that heals the membrane, and ultimately the body and brain. The recent pioneering work of Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D., as communicated in his book Desperation Medicine and his peer reviewed papers (Shoemaker 2001), lends strong support to a connection between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Lyme Disease, Pfiesteria infection and that of numerous Neurotoxic Syndromes. Biotoxins as Neurotoxins The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels neurological and psychological impairment due to the interrelationship between the ENS (Enteral Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall bladder, and bile formation within the liver serve in the vital processes of detoxication (disposal of waste products bilirubin, heavy metals, biotoxins, xenobiotics), lipid metabolism, transport and digestion (bile acids). Abnormalities of the hepatobiliary system may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious material or biotoxins reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as a viscous suspension in biliary sludge. Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes, dinoflagelletes, and fungus may be within biliary sludge often creating neurotoxins impacting the CNS via the ENS, or the Second Brain (gut). The occurrence of biliary sludge may be due to prolonged fasting, low fat intake, high carbohydrate diets or exposure to pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may impair biliary flow which would be contraindicated in attempting to clear toxicity as bile is paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and heavy metals excreted into the fecal matter. Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD (kilodaltons) that are comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in such a way as to make the outside of the molecule fat loving and water hating. As such, once it enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are rich in fat such as most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney, and brain. Neurotoxins are capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and moving through it, crossing cell membranes (transporting against a gradient, particularly with potassium) disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself. As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body from the GI tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve, whereby they eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once neurotoxins bind with bile they have access to the liver, the body is poisoned over and over again as the bile is re-circulated (first released into the intestine to digest fats, and then reabsorbed). Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium channel receptors, attacking enzyme reactions involved in glucose production thereby disrupting energy metabolism in the cell, manufacturing renegade fatty acids as saturated very long chain, odd chain and branched chain fatty acids impairing membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2) which uncouple essential fatty acids from the cell membrane and impairing the function of the nuclear receptor PPAR gamma which partially controls transcription (the conversion of instructions held in our DNA to RNA which then leads to translation or protein production in the cell). Heavy Metals reside in Fatty Tissue with Biotoxins Heavy metals are also lipid soluble and often compound the removal of biotoxins (Aschner et al 1990, 1998; Dutzak 1991). As has been observed by many clinicians, often as the patients' heavy metal toxicity is addressed they are faced with the additional complication of the presence of biotoxins. Biotoxins and heavy metal exposure co-exist within the cell membrane and fatty tissue requiring consideration for both types of toxicity in regard to patient intervention. By stabilizing glutathione we in turn impact metallothionein markers (Nordberb and Nordberb 2000, Ebadi et al 1995, Sato et al 1995, Kerper et al 1996, Susanto et al 1998), glycoaminoglycans or GAGS (Klein 1992), methylation, sulfation, hepatic and renal function as we introduce treatment protocols for detoxication with gentle, natural modalities that unload cellular toxicity safely. GSH infusion by fast IV push has been a remarkable tool to unload the body burden of heavy metals and neurotoxins in both pediatric and adult populations, without side effects. Renegade fatty acids as Neurotoxin Markers Renegade fats as very long chain fats (VLCFAs) that are over expressed, disrupt the membrane structure. There is a beautiful geometry to the membrane that is highly sensitive to the size of the lipid chains. The overall width of the fatty acid portion of the membrane is ~3 ½ nm which must be maintained for stability. Saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids with a length of 16 or 18 carbons and polyunsaturated fatty acids of 18 to 22 carbons are preferred to permit the structure to maintain optimal horizontal fluidity. VLCSFAs that range from 20 to 26 carbons force the parallel dimensions vertically. There simply is not enough room. The distortion weakens the phosphate bonds that derive their strong attraction only as long as the phospholipids are parallel to each other on both sides of the membrane. The cell weakness is then expressed in leaky attraction to ion channels and receptors which marginalize cell cytosol fluids and electrolytes with the only option as early cell death. The Brain is Comprised of 60% Fat To view the brain beyond its architecture as a biological orchestration of the physical and chemical constituents necessary for performance, we cannot begin to conceptualize without considering the importance of fatty acids as the human brain is 60% lipid. Dendrites and synapses are up to 80% in lipid content. Although Arachidonic acid (AA) has been given a negative association, it is the most prominent essential fatty acid in the red cell and comprises 12% of the total brain and 15.5% of the body lipid content. If AA is depleted by overdosing with marine or flax oil establishing the balance of the EFAs is profoundly impaired. Often both prostaglandin one and two series relating to omega six metabolism are compromised when flax and marine oils are overdosed or lipid intake is insufficient. When AA, the lead eicosanoid of the body, is suppressed due to excess intake of omega 3, toxicity or disease the control circuitry of the body is impaired as is clearly viewed in the patient's presentation. Arachidonic acid is preferentially wasted in states of heavy metal toxicity (Tiin and Lin, 1998) and has been observed to be sharply suppressed in RBC lipid analysis in states of heavy metal toxicity (Kane, clinical observation 1997-2002). The fatty acid cleaving enzyme PLA2 In states of toxicity via biotoxins or heavy metals there is a dramatic elevation in Phospholipase A2 (PLA2) activity (Verity et al 1994) Increases in PLA2 activity result in premature uncoupling of the essential fatty acids (EFAs) from phospholipids in the cell membrane. Accelerated loss of EFA places the patient in a severely compromised position as that of inflammation which results from the promiscuous release of AA in the presence of an overexpression of PLA2. Carbohydrate consumption, as one of the most profound stimulators of PLA2, must be restricted to control the insulin response and the subsequent loss of EFAs. Phospholipids and Neurons Phospholipids, cholesterol, cerebrosides, gangliosides and sulfatides are the lipids most predominant in the brain residing within the architectural bilayers (Bazan et al 1992). The phospholipids and their essential fatty acid components provide second messengers and signal mediators. In essence, phospholipids and their essential fatty acid components play a vital role in the cell signaling systems in the neuron. The functional behavior of neuronal membranes largely depends upon the ways in which individual phospholipids are aligned, interspersed with cholesterol, and associated with proteins. All neurotransmitters are wrapped up in phospholipid vesicles. The release and uptake of the neurotransmitters depends upon the realignment of the phospholipid molecules. The nature of the phospholipid is a factor in determining how much neurotransmitter or metal ion will pass out of a vesicle or be taken back in. Phospholipid re-modeling may be accomplished by supplying generous amounts of balanced lipids and catalysts via nutritional intervention and the use of intravenous Phospholipid Exchange (IV Phosphatidyl choline). Hypercoagulation and Membrane Integrity An undesirable course of events in an exposure to biotoxins is agglomeration in a hypercoagulation state. The distorted membrane with its weakened structure and almost absolute reduced fluidity is powerless to resist coagulation. A highly fluid membrane would kick off an accumulation of oxidized cholesterol; it would not permit it to attach. This is not the case when the membrane is compromised, as in much of the patient population affected with neurotoxic illness. Hypercoagulation is predominantly a non-regulated mass of proteins disrupting function. When referencing the artery; hypercoagulation invariably involves the plasmic side of the cell and if endothelial cells of the vascular system are targeted by a toxin (virus, neurotoxin, metal, antibody, etc) , restriction of blood flow ultimately results. If a neuron is targeted then signaling is disrupted. The presence of neurotoxins invariably involves PLA2, which is the "sergeant at arms" monitoring cell membrane health. A membrane disturbance(unwanted mass) would trigger PLA2, which hydrolyses the release of eicosanoids, which would then induce inflammation and call to attention the clean-up committee, i.e. macrophages. Hypercoagulation is a restrictive agglomeration, (mass) that occurs principally on the membrane of endothelial cells blocking the flow of vital fluids, blood, bile, etc., with a high causal relationship to oxidation, and equally to toxicity, quite often neurotoxins. Oxidized LDL (Sobel et al 2000) is predominantly a membrane disturbing event agglomerating and attaching to endothelial cells, while neurotoxins can move through the lipid membrane and attack the cell itself. The Liver as the Center of the Storm Unhealthy bacteria have been known to colonize the liver and its biliary system. These bacteria as well as viruses, spirochetes, dinoflagellates, and the like can synthesize very long chain saturated or renegade fats (Harrington et al 1968, Carballerira et al 1998) that lead to liver toxicity, biliary congestion, impairment of prostaglandin synthesis and the release of glutathione (Ballatori et al 1990). Lipids vibrate in the cell at millions of times/second. The double bonds of the omega 6 and omega 3 lipids are the singing backbone of life expressed through their high energy level. These bonds are their vibratory song, and they absolutely carry a tune befitting every act and function in the exercise of life, providing all 70 trillion of our cells their flexible nature. When renegade fats are over represented in the cell membrane they result in off key expression, and if strong enough, may spell cellular death and apoptosis. Healing the outer leaflet of the membrane (Schachter et al 1983), comprised primarily of phosphatidylcholine, with phospholipid therapy, is our highest priority in addressing chronic illness and hypercoagulation. The Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test Our clinical approach is to first confirm that neurotoxin mediated illness could in fact be a problem for the patient via the Visual Contrast Sensitivity test that isolates deficits in velocity of flow in retinal capillaries. If the patient scores poorly on this test then the evaluation may include screening for cytokine elevations followed by coagulation and red blood cell lipid testing through Johns Hopkins/interpretation through BodyBio. (For pediatric patients the Heidelberg Retinal Tomogram Flow Meter Evaluation may be performed in place of the Visual Contrast Test by an ophthalmologist.) Neurotoxins and Cytokines Once neurotoxins enter the cell they move toward the nucleus turning on indirectly the production of cytokines such as TNF alpha, IL6, and IL-1Beta (Shrief and Thompson 1993, Tsukamoto 1995, Abordo et al 1997,Rajora et al 1997, Brettelal 1989, Hassen et al 1999, Davidson 2001). TNF alpha will stimulate macrophages in the body (macrophages) to become active. The white cells are also induced to gather in the area of the cytokine (TNF alpha) release. In addition, TNF alpha induces endothelial cell adhesion. Endothelial cells which line the blood vessels of the body become "sticky" in conjunction with the increase in white cells. Increased blood viscosity results in restricted blood flow in neurotoxic patients leading to fatigue and discomfort, and quite possibly disturbed toxic photoreceptor lipid structures that become compromised with subsequent reduction in visual performance. The cellular impact of biotoxin and heavy metal burdens results in disturbed prostaglandin synthesis, poor cellular integrity, decreased GSH levels (DeLeve and Kaplowitz 1990, Dentico et al 1995, Hayter et al 2001, Miles et al 2000, Nagai et al 2002, Zalups and Barfuss 1995, Watanabe et al 1988, Fernandez-Checa et al 1996), significant suppression of omega 6 arachidonic acid and marked elevation of Renegade fats and ultimately with demyelination (depressed DMAs). The presence of VLCFAs are evidence of peroxisomal dysfunction and suppression of the beta oxidation of lipids and cellular respiration. Renegade fats (VLCSFAs, Odd Chains, Branched Chains) are represented as an increase in fat content in the brain as discovered in stroke patients examined by Stanley Rapoport, Chief of the Laboratory of Neuroscience at the NIH. Biotoxins and heavy metals are lipid soluble thus the effect upon cellular processes and hepatobiliary function is often gravely deranged. Often, patients do not possess a gross burden of toxins but rather a burden that has a finite impact upon the cell by blocking receptor sites such as G proteins, which act as a relay system through the cell. Peroxisomes, most prevalent in the liver and kidney, are organelles within the cell that play a crucial role in clearing xenobiotics and the third phase of detoxification. Peroxisomes are intimately involved in cellular lipid metabolism (Bentley et al 1993, Mannaerts and Van Veldhoven 1992, Luers et al 1990, Leiper 1995) as in the biosynthesis of fatty acids via ß-oxidation involving physiologically important substrates for VLCFAs, thromboxanes, leukotrienes and prostaglandins. The creation of a prostaglandin is an oxidative event (Diczfalusy 1994). Inappropriate use of antioxidants (mega-dosing) will inhibit ß-oxidation, the production of prostaglandins and cellular metabolism, thus the liberal use of potent antioxidants would be contraindicated in the buildup of Renegade fats as VLCFAs, Odd Chain and Branched Chains (Akasaka et al 2000) which are the hallmark of toxicity (Kane and Kane 1997, Kane 1999, Kane 2000, Roels et al 1993, Rustan et al 1992). Peroxisomal oxidation enzymes are suppressed by elevation of cytokines such as TNFalpha (Beier et al 1992). Individuals with immune, CNS, cardiac, GI and endocrine disorders often present with complex xenobiotics involving disturbances in the cytochrome P450 superfamily (hepatic detoxification difficulties) which parallels disturbances in peroxisomal function. The cytochrome P450's are responsible for the biotransformation of endogenous compounds including fatty acids, steroids, prostaglandins, leukotrienes and vitamins as well as the detoxification of exogenous compounds resulting in substantial alterations of P450s (Guengerich 1991) as xenobiotics may turn off or greatly reduce the expression of constitutive isoenzymes (Sharma et al 1988). Targeted Nutritional Intervention for Toxicity Inadequate stores of arachidonic acid can compromise P450 function (McGiff 1991). Oral application of hormones such as pregnenolone, DHEA (Di Santo et al 1996, Ram et al 1994, Rao et al 1993) or thyroid stimulate peroxisomal proliferation and the ß-oxidation of Renegade fats as would nutrients (riboflavin, pyruvate, manganese) and oxidative therapies. Anti-oxidants slow cellular metabolism and must remain in the proper balance with all the essential nutrients and substrates (lipids, protein) to maintain metabolic equilibrium. Removal of renegade fats in the diet is accomplished by the avoidance of mustard, canola oil (Naito et al 2000), peanuts and peanut oil which contain VLCSFAs that can challenge patients with liver and CNS toxicity. The oral use of butyrate, a short 4-carbon chain fatty acid, is of striking benefit (Fusunyan et al 1998, Segain et al 1983, Yin et al 2001) in mobilizing renegade fats, lowering TNFalpha, sequestering ammonia, and clearing biotoxins. In states of toxicity it is paramount to stabilize omega 6 fatty acids and the lead eicosanoid (Attwell et al 1993) Arachidonic acid (AA) before introducing omega 3 lipids. There exists a crucial balance between omega 6 and omega 3 fatty acids in human lipid metabolism which has only recently been brought into clearer focus through the work of Yehuda (1993, 1994, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2002). His development of the SR-3 (specific ratio of omega 6 to omega 3) has revealed that the optimum ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 FAs is 4:1. AA, the lead eicosanoid, must be stable first along with the other w6 EFAs before w3 fatty acids are introduced and balanced. Clinicians are often met with poor patient outcomes when merely administering omega 3 lipids without first introducing omega 6 fatty acids, stabilizing the structural lipids, increasing the fat content of the diet, stimulating the ß-oxidation of renegade fatty acids, flushing of the gall bladder/biliary tree and supporting digestion of fats with bile salts and lipase. The manipulation of lipid distortion involves two basic essential fats: omega 6 and omega 3. The body loses its ability to metabolize fats in states of toxicity and therefore becomes depleted in the eicosanoids and prostaglandins. Essential fatty acids are the precursors to the regulatory prostaglandins which are "local hormones" providing the communication controlling all cell to cell interactions. The human cell membrane cannot be supported nor its function controlled without respect to lipid substrate, yet fatty acid metabolism has been poorly delineated in the medical literature. An optimum balance of fatty acids make up the dynamic membrane. The membrane of every living cell and organelle is composed of two fatty acid tails facing each other. This bilipid layer is so minute (3.5 nanometers) that it would take 10,000 membranes layered on top of each other to make up the thickness of this paper. Yet the dynamics that occur within this tiny envelope with organelles prancing up and down the cytoskeleton microtubules is a microcosm that is a challenge for the human mind to envision. Mercury toxicity damages the microtubule structure of the cell. All cells must synthesize molecules and expel waste. All cells must create, through gene expression, the proteins needed for cellular gates embedded in the membrane as ion channels and receptors. The ultimate control of how those peptides behave rests with the character of the membrane while the integrity of the membrane rests with the structural (oleic, stearic, palmitic, cholesterol) and essential lipids (omega 6, omega 3). Without control of membrane function through lipid manipulation, detoxication is compromised. In essence, the life of the cell is intimately tied to health of the membrane and the health of the entire organism. Our clinical protocol is to initiate treatment with changing the patients' overall diet, addressing the lipid balance and especially the outer lipid leaflet of the cell membrane through fatty acid therapy and the addition of supplementation targeted towards dissolving fibrin, clearing the liver/biliary tree, and healing the cell membrane. Patient progress is evaluated through the Visual Contrast Test and repeat lab evaluation. Blood thinning agents such as Heparin and Warfarin increase blood flow around the blocked endothelium, however, reconstituting membrane fluidity can directly address coagulation in a natural restorative way. Vibrant healthy membranes will not permit agglomeration. The high polyunsaturated lipids with a preponderance of phosphatidylcholine on the plasmic surface precludes undesirable clumping to occur. Treatment modalities should address dissolving fibrin and healing the cell membrane. Spreading Infection It has been suggested that the use of heparin will address hypercoagulation. Recent data from JAMA (Stephenson 2001) indicates that the use of low dose heparin may transform a 'benign fungal infection into a toxic shock-like reaction'. This research was presented at the 39th annual meeting of the Infectious Diseases Society of America in 2001 by Margaret K. Hostetter, M.D. of Yale University School of Medicine (Hostetter 2001 and San-Blas et al 2000). Hostetter and colleagues found that Candida albicans can attach to host cells and form invasive hyphae. Low dose heparin utilized in procedures for hospitalized patients through the practice of heparin in intravascular catheters may transform C. albicans into a life-threatening pathogen. Hostetter was able to identify a gene, INT1, encoding a C. albicans surface protein, Intlp, which was linked with adhesion, the ability to grow filaments and ultimately virulence of C. albicans of a systemic nature. The use of heparin raises the cytokines TNF alpha and IL-6 (Stephenson 2001) in addition to Phospholipase A2 (Mudher et al 1999; Kern et al 2000; Farooqui 1999; Verity et al 1994). Biotoxins which form neurotoxins, may create a state of hypercoagulation from the rise in TNF alpha. Consequently, the use of heparin may exacerbate the hypercoagulation and the neurotoxic condition. The source of the problem- biotoxins, which have formed neurotoxins creating a state of hypercoagulation, must be addressed from the context of the underlying neurotoxic condition and healing the cell membrane. Evidence Based Clinical Protocols By stabilizing lipid status with intravenous Phospholipid exchange and oral EFA supplementation we have remarkable tools to unload the body burden of neurotoxins (Jenkins et al 1982, Cariso et al 1983, Jaeschke et al 1987, Kolde et al 1992) in both pediatric and adult populations, without side effects. Oral use of phospholipids in a Liver Flush is also an effective intervention in addressing neurotoxic syndromes. Through isolating individual fatty acids and dimethylacetyls in red cells we can now examine the cellular integrity/structure, fluidity, the formation of renegade fats that impair membrane function, myelination status, and the intricate circuitry of the prostaglandins. The systemic health of the individual patient may reached and targeted nourishment utilized through evidence based intervention which may yield positive patient outcomes. Healing the membrane is virtually ... healing the brain. > References for this Article Neal Speight, M.D. may be reached at Center For Wellness in Charlotte, NC. Patricia Kane, Ph.D. at the Haverford Wellness Center in Havertown, PA. or to obtain the 'The Detoxx Book: Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes' at 888.320.8338 or 856.825.8338 Dr. Mercola's Comment: If you are interested in detoxification, I encourage you to check out the upcoming Detoxx BioMedical Symposium with Dr. Patricia Kane. The symposium will be held in September in both New Jersey and Connecticut. Print :: Close On Mar 30, 2007, at 11:27 AM, lunagirl32002 wrote: > Hi Karen, > Well you don't seem 'mad' to me. It sounds like EMF sensitivity. I am > wondering if it's worth > getting a neurotransmitter test to see if you are off-balance on one > of the neurotransmitters > that could possibly be supplemented...anyone know if this might at all > be related? > Julie > www.PlanetThrive.com > > --- In [hidden email], "karen935875" <karenkendal564@...> wrote: >> >> hi my name is karen, i feel like im at a AA meeting hahaha, as you can >> see i still have humour, i came across your website from a links page >> on the >> electosenstivity.org website, im not 100% sure if i do suffer from >> this(or im just compleatly mad) but if i describe my symptoms to you >> maybe you >> can help me, > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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> By stabilizing lipid status with intravenous Phospholipid exchange and
> oral EFA supplementation we have remarkable tools to unload the body > burden of neurotoxins So what exactly are they recommending that one take for EFA supplementation? I've tried almost every EFA supplement on the planet :-), and my reaction to them vary all over the map... some appear to do nothing, some appear to have minor benefit, and some cause nasty adverse reactions (oxygen starvation, chest pains, panic attacks, etc). I can't say that any of them have produced spectacular results.... Marc |
That is a great question. I have overheard them talk about
supplementing with the usual ones in their office. I think you probably know as much as the nurses so. Dr. Mercola says Krill Oil is the best if one needs Omega 3 and Cannabis Sativa seems to have a great ratio. I am not sure how coconut oil fits into the picture but I know it is an important good fat. My understanding is that there is an exchange between good fats and bad fats and a release of toxins and chemicals in the process. The toxins unbury themselves from the fat, nerves, cholesterol, etc. as we replace them with good fat so that might be the reason for the adverse reactions. My understanding is the ratio is the most important aspect of Essential Fatty Acids: Omega 6 at a 4:1 ratio to Omega 3 (I've seen 1:1, 6:1, etc.). This ratio seems to be in dispute and I think blood types will vary the ratio. So too much fish oil is not good or animal fats for that matter. Balance... Maybe the blood test is the easiest way: http://www.omega-3-fish-oil-wonders.com/omega-3-fatty-acids-dosage.html If you want to be more technical there is a blood test, Araquidonic Acid/Eicosapentaenoic acid, AA/EPA, that can give you a more exact measurement. It should be between 1.5 to 3 to have your omega 6 and omega 3 balanced. There is also the triglycerides/ HDL cholesterol test, that can give you and indirect measurement of your Omega 6/3 ratio. It should be close to 1. I'll ask Dr. Speight after I get my fat biopsy results back (I still have 6 stitches in my butt) if there is any easier way to test the balance of EFA or the toxicity contained in one's fat and what he recommends for supplementation. Andrew On Mar 30, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Marc Martin wrote: >> By stabilizing lipid status with intravenous Phospholipid exchange and >> oral EFA supplementation we have remarkable tools to unload the body >> burden of neurotoxins > > So what exactly are they recommending that one take for EFA > supplementation? > I've tried almost every EFA supplement on the planet :-), and my > reaction > to them vary all over the map... some appear to do nothing, some appear > to > have minor benefit, and some cause nasty adverse reactions (oxygen > starvation, > chest pains, panic attacks, etc). > > I can't say that any of them have produced spectacular results.... > > Marc > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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> Dr. Mercola says Krill Oil is the best if one needs Omega 3 and
> Cannabis Sativa seems to have a great ratio. > I am not sure how coconut oil fits into the picture but I know it is an > important good fat. Krill oil leaves me oxygen starved... coconut oil makes my legs weak... (also, cod liver oil and chia seeds give me chest pains and panic attacks). Of course, all of this would be consistent with the body releasing toxins... one just has to find a combination/dosage that is tolerable and also gets the toxins out of the body! I do note benefits from flax, evening primrose, and borage oils, and I have no reaction at all to olive oil... Marc |
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Hi Karen, although you may have some form of electrosensitivity, the
"electric shocks in the head" symptom is quite often experienced by people who suddenly stop taking SSRI antidepressants - others call them "brain zaps" or similar things. It's more often reported with Prozac, Seroxat etc but that may simply be because they are more widely used. If you discontinue SSRI's it should normally be done by ramping the dose down gradually over a period of days or weeks - sometimes even months. This often avoids the "electric zaps" problem. But do keep an eye out for electrical sensitivity symptoms afterwards - stress and antidepressants side effects can both weaken your system and make you more susceptible to developing ES. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of karen935875 Sent: 30 March 2007 01:43 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] hi can anybody help? hi my name is karen, i feel like im at a AA meeting hahaha, as you can see i still have humour, i came across your website from a links page on the electosenstivity.org website, im not 100% sure if i do suffer from this(or im just compleatly mad) but if i describe my symptoms to you maybe you can help me, 12months ago i was described a antideppresant called citalopram 20mgs, due to a loss of a loved one, which spiraled me into a nervous break down at the time i suffered severe panic attacks , i took them for 12months then just recently i stoped taking them, one day after stopping them i started to get these symptoms at first i thought it was because as you no antidepressents supress certian parts of the brain, and the brain being so complex as a biologist as you no were made up of so many atoms electrons etc etc, so i just thought the symptoms i was having was a side affect to stoping the tablets but apparently its not, these are my symptoms, the only way i can describe them is have you ever took out a plug of a appliance and by accident you touch the plug and you get a shock, wel i get that feeling every half hour and have done for the past 3 weeks, also if i go to a place were there is flouresent lights it starts again it feels like im going to fit, i never do it just feels like it, what happens is i feel very sick and sometimes i get a severe headace also my hearing is like 100 mega times more eg if a car goes past me it feels like im at a stadium i feel the vibration go right through me, if the phone rings weather its a mobile or a house phone it feels like its ringing inside me i no it sounds crazy but its the only way i can describe what im feeling, i stand by my pc i get a shock again, when i sleep at night i have dreams of falling i jolt upright and its like im having a electric shock only for a few seconds but its very frightening, i now have insomnia as im scared of geting a shock, if i go near anything metal in a shop eg a lift or a shelf i get a severe shock, im like a walking electric pylon i also have had experances of plugging in a hoover and walking away for a second i felt a electrical surge next thing the hover turned on by itself ive sat by the tv and the remote is on the other side of the room and the tv switches chanels very spooky like a scene from the film carrie ,i was told i had a sixth sense and im cabable of psychokinetics, it could be a case of mind over matter but i realy dont think it is im at my witts end my doctor sugests to go back on antidepresents something i dont want to do, as i like to have my own mind, and although i must admit last year after my breakdown i really did need them i feel ok now just this matter of finding out what it actualy is im suffering from is it side affects of stoping taking the medication or do i suffer from electrosensitivity? on the main website it doesnt seem to mention anything about psychokinetics or eletrical surges through your body the only thing it does say is adversion to bright lights migrane and feeling faint no mention of feeling like a electric pylon , you could get a radio signal off me im that live right now!! putting jokes aside i guess this is quite a serious thing and i would be very greatfull for some advice on how to deal with this i dont fancy spending the rest of my life like this is there anything i can do? also i find i can only wear certain clothes eg cotton anything else and its like im a dodgem car you no that feeling when you have something nylon on and you can actualy hear the eletricty and it sticks to your skin wel thats what its like for me i can assure you i am of sane mind i think hehehe but i cant asure you im going to stay that way unless i get some advice on how to deal with this my doctor doesnt have much info on this subject like i said his answer is to supress it with antidepresents, perahaps if i wear rubber wellies oh thats another thing i can sense a lighting storm maybe 3 hours before it happens as my hair stands on end, i look forward to some advice from you i hope i made you smile a little can you make me smile and give me some advice on how to deal with this thanks your sincerly karen xx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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how can you tell that you are having reactions to these things like you said i dont know whats going on with what i take pete On 30 Mar 2007, at 21:29, Marc Martin wrote: > > Dr. Mercola says Krill Oil is the best if one needs Omega 3 and > > Cannabis Sativa seems to have a great ratio. > > I am not sure how coconut oil fits into the picture but I know it > is an > > important good fat. > > Krill oil leaves me oxygen starved... coconut oil makes my legs > weak... (also, cod liver oil and chia seeds give me chest pains > and panic attacks). > > Of course, all of this would be consistent with the body releasing > toxins... one just has to find a combination/dosage that is > tolerable and also gets the toxins out of the body! > > I do note benefits from flax, evening primrose, and borage oils, > and I have no reaction at all to olive oil... > > Marc > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> how can you tell that you are having reactions to these things like you > said i dont know whats going on with what i take I can tell because it is obvious. I know what my "normal" level of health is. If I start taking something new and then I get some new symptom, I will likely blame it on the new supplement I am taking. Especially if the symptom goes away when I stop taking it, and returns when I start up again. But I understand what you mean when you say that you don't know what's going on with what you take. There are many supplements that I have tried that don't appear to do much of anything, good or bad. However, since I have tried so many different supplements over the past 7 years (hundreds?), there are a handful that have given me an extreme reaction, although most of the time I have no idea why I'm having that reaction. Currently, I am experimenting with the supplement "Holy Basil", which has been described as protective against radiation and detoxes you from heavy metals. In my typical obsessive fashion, I have ordered several different brands of Holy Basil and am comparing my reaction to them. I have already determined that the Holy Basil from New Chapter is too strong for me, and makes me feel weird (possibly heavy metal mobilization). However, other brands such as Medi-Herb seem fine, although I'm not sure if I'm seeing any real benefits. I will certainly report here if I'm seeing some definite benefits with regards to ES. Marc |
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In a message dated 3/31/2007 4:37:00 PM GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: I can tell because it is obvious. I know what my "normal" level of health is. If I start taking something new and then I get some new symptom, I will likely blame it on the new supplement I am taking. Especially if the symptom goes away when I stop taking it, and returns when I start up again. PAUL UK - This is often the most rational route to discover wether you are ES, but as in most cases it can take a long time before the conection between the ill health reactions often initiated and felt from VDU use and more commonly Mobile use is made, sometimes a few years. Thank heavens for groups like this. When I first fell ill with ES back in late 90s there was no such support for me, I merely worked it out by the same mechanism Marc describes above. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I took the Fatty Acid Test from Great Smokies a couple years ago and it
showed I had way too much Omega 3 (from my daily diet of wild salmon, cod liver oil, and grass-fed meats). So I made changes in my diet to increase the Omega 6s and decrease Omega 3s. I started having more health problems when I did this...and then when I tried to go back to the daily cod liver oil, I found I was intolerant of it. I also react to coconut oil ingested and topical. I can tolerate olive oil fine. I eat wild salmon 4-6x week. Still wishing I could take the cod liver oil again...makes me feel sick and 'off'. Maybe I should perservere and try to build up my reserves so that something starts to shift internally?? _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 |
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yes marc it seems to be a mindfield, and i know what you mean by
becoming obsessed i apparently have mercury toxicity, i have 11 amalgams, i was given homeopathy tinctures to remove the mercury and also others for my liver and kidneys so that it could be excreted properly. I didn't want to get my fillings out because of the mental problems i have been having the severe depression and mood swings so i was scared about becoming worse and still am. I stopped the homeopathy after a few days as i felt extremley suicidal. Also half the time im wondering if by what i am taken is it making my photo sensitivity worse, but sometimes being in ones head and trying to work all this out makes things so much worse. pete On 31 Mar 2007, at 16:34, Marc Martin wrote: > > marc > > how can you tell that you are having reactions to these things like > you > > said i dont know whats going on with what i take > > I can tell because it is obvious. I know what my "normal" level of > health is. If I start taking something new and then I get some new > symptom, I will likely blame it on the new supplement I am taking. > Especially if the symptom goes away when I stop taking it, and returns > when I start up again. > > But I understand what you mean when you say that you don't know what's > going on with what you take. There are many supplements that I have > tried that don't appear to do much of anything, good or bad. However, > since I have tried so many different supplements over the past 7 > years (hundreds?), there are a handful that have given me an extreme > reaction, although most of the time I have no idea why I'm having > that reaction. > > Currently, I am experimenting with the supplement "Holy Basil", which > has been described as protective against radiation and detoxes you > from heavy metals. In my typical obsessive fashion, I have ordered > several different brands of Holy Basil and am comparing my reaction > to them. I have already determined that the Holy Basil from New > Chapter is too strong for me, and makes me feel weird (possibly > heavy metal mobilization). However, other brands such as Medi-Herb > seem fine, although I'm not sure if I'm seeing any real benefits. > I will certainly report here if I'm seeing some definite benefits > with regards to ES. > > Marc > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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ES may very well be caused by neurotoxins. However, other
influences may very well be at work. An interesting quote from a 'Newsweek' article on men's depression: "Newer research focuses on the nerve cells themselves and how the brain's circuitry can be permanently damaged by hyperactive stress responses, brought on by genetic predisposition, prolonged stress or even a single traumatic event". |
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> I stopped the homeopathy after a few days as i felt extremley suicidal.
Not surprising... most people with mercury poisoning who take homeopathic mercury detox supplements have to stop taking them almost immediately due to adverse reactions. I think with mercury poisoning, you don't want to take anything that is going to just mobilize the stuff into your bloodstream. You want to take things that will grab onto the mercury and hold onto it long enough for it to leave your body. Marc |
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Just popping in here, no way I'll ever catch up on all the reading.
Have you (or anyone) ever tried "Camelina oil". It's been being promoted as a grain crop out this way the past couple years. I expect will be taking over more of the wheat with time, as more and more people are becoming intolerant to it. Anyway, I looked up camelina info., and it apparently is high in efa's. http://www.bjcomfort.com/en/index.htm Camelina and oil content http://www.grdc.com.au/growers/gc/gc63/oilseeds.htm camelina I find no matter what the oil, if it is not a 100% organically grown one it makes me feel headachey and/or ill, this includes the cod liver oil. Only the Norwegian deep sea that they've tested for impurities does not bother me as far as fish oils. For Karen too: What about taking phosphatidyl choline, if you can't tolerate the oils? It at least helps with the integrity of the myelin sheath. When that's eroded, nerves short circuit and can lead to shocks also. Also using a natural progesterone cream may be highly beneficial in reducing these shocks. -They also label a couple for the male gender as well. ~ Snoshoe --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Dr. Mercola says Krill Oil is the best if one needs Omega 3 and > > Cannabis Sativa seems to have a great ratio. > > I am not sure how coconut oil fits into the picture but I know it is an > > important good fat. > > Krill oil leaves me oxygen starved... coconut oil makes my legs > weak... (also, cod liver oil and chia seeds give me chest pains > and panic attacks). > > Of course, all of this would be consistent with the body releasing > toxins... one just has to find a combination/dosage that is > tolerable and also gets the toxins out of the body! > > I do note benefits from flax, evening primrose, and borage oils, > and I have no reaction at all to olive oil... > > Marc > |
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Hi Karen,
We had another Karen with similar symptoms from electocution, being shocked merely by being near things. You might want to read online id you can, what helps people who have been struck by lighting. Cotton and other plant fabrics hold a negative charge, where where animal and synthetic hold a positive charge, if the plant ones aren't loaded with fabric softener, that would be why they are more tolerable for you. I just posted a bit ago in another message about trying natural progesterone cream, that cut down the amount of shocks I receive greately, also phosphatidyl choline. You might want to see about grounded shoes too, in the search for the group it should come up, some of the folks here have used these too. Hopefully with good supplements your body will be able to correct the damage from the pharmeceutical chemicals. :) Humor is the best help there is at many times. Keep it up! :) (I just learned recently that formaldehyde is used on cotton clothing to help it not wrinkle, hence that horrid smell that requires I wash something 4x's to get enough out I can wear it. Just thought I'd add that, since I think others here have mentioned it bothering them also.) ~ Snoshoe --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: these are my symptoms, the > only > way i can describe them is have you ever took out a plug of a > appliance > and > by accident you touch the plug and you get a shock, wel i get that > feeling > every half hour and have done for the past 3 weeks, also if i go to a > place > were there is flouresent lights it starts again it feels like im going > to > fit, i never do it just feels like it, what happens is i feel very > sick > and > sometimes i get a severe headace also my hearing is like 100 mega > times > more > eg if a car goes past me it feels like im at a stadium i feel the > vibration > go right through me, if the phone rings weather its a mobile or a > house > phone it feels like its ringing inside me i no it sounds crazy but > the > only way i can describe what im feeling, i stand by my pc i get a > shock > again, when i sleep at night i have dreams of falling i jolt upright > and > its > like im having a electric shock only for a few seconds but its very > frightening, i now have insomnia as im scared of geting a shock, if i > go > near anything metal in a shop eg a lift or a shelf i get a severe > shock, > im > like a walking electric pylon i also have had experances of plugging > in > a > hoover and walking away for a second i felt a electrical surge next > thing > the hover turned on by itself ive sat by the tv and the remote is on > the > other side of the room and the tv switches chanels very spooky like a > scene > from the film carrie ,i was told i had a sixth sense and im cabable of > psychokinetics, it could be a case of mind over matter but i realy > dont > think it is im at my witts end my doctor sugests to go back on > antidepresents something i dont want to do, as i like to have my own > mind, > and although i must admit last year after my breakdown i really did > need > them i feel ok now just this matter of finding out what it actualy is > im > suffering from is it side affects of stoping taking the medication or > do > i > suffer from electrosensitivity? on the main website it doesnt seem to > mention anything about psychokinetics or eletrical surges through your > body > the only thing it does say is adversion to bright lights migrane and > feeling > faint no mention of feeling like a electric pylon , you could get a > radio > signal off me im that live right now!! putting jokes aside i guess > this > is > quite a serious thing and i would be very greatfull for some advice on > how > to deal with this i dont fancy spending the rest of my life like this > is > there anything i can do? also i find i can only wear certain clothes > eg > cotton anything else and its like im a dodgem car you no that feeling > when > you have something nylon on and you can actualy hear the eletricty and > it > sticks to your skin wel thats what its like for me |
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