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> Hi all,
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> Here's an update on my experiences with Vinny's Quantum Coherence
> Device, the AUTO-21.
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> Basically, after almost 2 weeks, I'm still trying to find a way just
> to tolerate being around it! At work, I've been experimenting with
> different distances, and it seems like about 12-15 feet is about
> as close as I can get to it before I get "burning face" symptoms.
> However, at that distance, it does seem like my tolerance for
> the workplace is a bit improved compared to not using it. I've
> been trying to ascertain if this really is the case, and so far
> I cannot conclusively say if this is true or not (although at
> the moment I'm leaning towards saying that it does improve things).
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> Vinny's description for the device states that its strongest effect
> is within a 14-foot radius, with a moderately strong effect out
> to 18 feet, so it appears that I can only handle the "moderately
> strong effect" range. This of course means that I can't really
> use it as a portable device, nor can I use it in the car,
> as I can't get far enough away from it!
>
> Marc
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>Hi all,
>
>Here's an update on my experiences with Vinny's Quantum Coherence
>Device, the AUTO-21.
>
>Basically, after almost 2 weeks, I'm still trying to find a way just
>to tolerate being around it! At work, I've been experimenting with
>different distances, and it seems like about 12-15 feet is about
>as close as I can get to it before I get "burning face" symptoms.
>However, at that distance, it does seem like my tolerance for
>the workplace is a bit improved compared to not using it. I've
>been trying to ascertain if this really is the case, and so far
>I cannot conclusively say if this is true or not (although at
>the moment I'm leaning towards saying that it does improve things).
>
>Vinny's description for the device states that its strongest effect
>is within a 14-foot radius, with a moderately strong effect out
>to 18 feet, so it appears that I can only handle the "moderately
>strong effect" range. This of course means that I can't really
>use it as a portable device, nor can I use it in the car,
>as I can't get far enough away from it!
>
>Marc
>
>

> > the AUTO-21 is now about 2 feet away
> > from me, and my adverse reactions so far are minimal. I'm not
> > sure that this is going to provide enough protection for a
> > complete 8-hour workday, though... we'll see...
>
>Well, this is all very interesting... it appears that my
>sensitivity to Vinny's AUTO-21 was due to the interaction
>between my Quantum power strip and his device. With
>the power strip unplugged, I don't get such a nasty
>reaction to Vinny's device, and can tolerate it being
>between my keyboard and monitor with only minor
>discomfort (mostly in the chest).
>
>However, the AUTO-21 is not strong enough by itself to
>overcome my workplace EMF problems (overhead florescent
>lighting plus 21" CRT monitor plus computer), so I have
>been testing it with other things that may be compatible
>with it. Interestingly, the Quantum Byte software seems
>okay, and also improves the situation over Vinny's
>device alone.
>
>Of course, this calls into question some of my other
>bad reactions to devices, as I was most certainly using
>them combined with the Quantum power strip. For example,
>the Personal Rejuvenizer pendant from LightHealing.com
>gave me a similar bad reaction...
>
>Marc

> Hi Marc:
>
> Thanks for these continuing and interesting reports of your observations!
>
> BTW, I am not sure if uplugging the Quantum Power Strip totally turns
> off or disables all of its effects. I am not sure if that device uses
> a powered oscillator or whether it is simply a normal power strip
> which has been subjected to a "material treatment" by a special
> treatment field. If the latter is the case, the power strip can be
> expected to continue to radiate some effect for a radius of about 30
> to 60 feet even when unplugged.
>
> with care,
> --Vinny
>
> At 02:26 PM 10/6/2006, you wrote:
>
>>> the AUTO-21 is now about 2 feet away
>>> from me, and my adverse reactions so far are minimal. I'm not
>>> sure that this is going to provide enough protection for a
>>> complete 8-hour workday, though... we'll see...
>>>
>> Well, this is all very interesting... it appears that my
>> sensitivity to Vinny's AUTO-21 was due to the interaction
>> between my Quantum power strip and his device. With
>> the power strip unplugged, I don't get such a nasty
>> reaction to Vinny's device, and can tolerate it being
>> between my keyboard and monitor with only minor
>> discomfort (mostly in the chest).
>>
>> However, the AUTO-21 is not strong enough by itself to
>> overcome my workplace EMF problems (overhead florescent
>> lighting plus 21" CRT monitor plus computer), so I have
>> been testing it with other things that may be compatible
>> with it. Interestingly, the Quantum Byte software seems
>> okay, and also improves the situation over Vinny's
>> device alone.
>>
>> Of course, this calls into question some of my other
>> bad reactions to devices, as I was most certainly using
>> them combined with the Quantum power strip. For example,
>> the Personal Rejuvenizer pendant from LightHealing.com
>> gave me a similar bad reaction...
>>
>> Marc
>>
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>Hi Vinny or Marc,
>
>Is it possible to explain how the Quantum products work?
>Is there any way to measure their field?
>
>I would like to de-mystify or understand this. Would any possible
>oscillator have a "normal-physics" frequency? or Does the material
>treatment on the quantum level affect electron-spin angles?
>and how can we be sure this is a good thing?
>
>Thanks,
>Stewart
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>Vinny Pinto wrote:
> > Hi Marc:
> >
> > Thanks for these continuing and interesting reports of your observations!
> >
> > BTW, I am not sure if uplugging the Quantum Power Strip totally turns
> > off or disables all of its effects. I am not sure if that device uses
> > a powered oscillator or whether it is simply a normal power strip
> > which has been subjected to a "material treatment" by a special
> > treatment field. If the latter is the case, the power strip can be
> > expected to continue to radiate some effect for a radius of about 30
> > to 60 feet even when unplugged.
> >
> > with care,
> > --Vinny
> >
> > At 02:26 PM 10/6/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >>> the AUTO-21 is now about 2 feet away
> >>> from me, and my adverse reactions so far are minimal. I'm not
> >>> sure that this is going to provide enough protection for a
> >>> complete 8-hour workday, though... we'll see...
> >>>
> >> Well, this is all very interesting... it appears that my
> >> sensitivity to Vinny's AUTO-21 was due to the interaction
> >> between my Quantum power strip and his device. With
> >> the power strip unplugged, I don't get such a nasty
> >> reaction to Vinny's device, and can tolerate it being
> >> between my keyboard and monitor with only minor
> >> discomfort (mostly in the chest).
> >>
> >> However, the AUTO-21 is not strong enough by itself to
> >> overcome my workplace EMF problems (overhead florescent
> >> lighting plus 21" CRT monitor plus computer), so I have
> >> been testing it with other things that may be compatible
> >> with it. Interestingly, the Quantum Byte software seems
> >> okay, and also improves the situation over Vinny's
> >> device alone.
> >>
> >> Of course, this calls into question some of my other
> >> bad reactions to devices, as I was most certainly using
> >> them combined with the Quantum power strip. For example,
> >> the Personal Rejuvenizer pendant from LightHealing.com
> >> gave me a similar bad reaction...
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>

> > http://advancedliving.com/QuantumFAQs.ivnu
> > http://natural-stress-reduction.com/
> > http://quantumproducts.com/
>
>Oh, I have another paper that Quantum Products emailed
>me privately once, so you can add this to your reading:
>
> http://ufoseries.com/quantum.pdf
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>(although the names have changed, I believe that this
>is the same technology that they use in their consumer
>products)
>
>Marc

> > No, that's the only research paper I've been sent. But that's
> > one of the advantages of asking them questions directly --
> > they may send you something like this!
>
>Oh, I should also point out some pages buried within one of
>the Quantum Products websites I sent earlier. You probably
>won't find these pages unless you really do a thorough job
>reading the entire site (poor web design, if you ask me):
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> http://www.natural-stress-reduction.com/summary-of-research.html
> http://www.natural-stress-reduction.com/scientific-revolution.html
>
>Marc
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> > [Question to Marc: have you shared more of these
> > privately-distributed papers from QP on this list in the past? Is it
> > worthwhile for me to do a quick search of the archived posts for more
> > links to such papers?]
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>No, that's the only research paper I've been sent. But that's
>one of the advantages of asking them questions directly --
>they may send you something like this!
>
>Also, when one is researching these products, one can also
>look at a different company that is confusingly named
>"Quantum Products". This company was formed by someone who
>originally worked at the first company, but started his own
>company using similar technology, and sells it in the
>high-end audio industry. Their explanation of their technology
>is here:
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> http://quantumqrt.com/explanation.htm
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>They also sell items for health, under the brand name "Quantum Life",
>but I (amazingly) haven't tried any of these items:
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> http://www.promolife.com/products/active.htm
>
>Marc
>
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> Hi Marc:
>
> Thanks for the links for the articles! Yes, I have come across some
> interesting articles and pages on some of the sites for several of
> the companies by using the Google feature which allowed a searcher to
> ask to see all the pages which Google had catalogued for a site, even
> if the current site was no longer actively linking to them.
> Unfortunately, they discontinued offering that service (i.e., "Show
> me all the pages Google has found at this site") about a month ago
> after having offered it for over 4.5 years, apparently due to
> complaints from some commercial websites that the feature was
> betraying too many of their company secrets!
>
> None of those pages are -- at this time -- worth finding again (and
> that would, of course, be difficult, given that Google has disabled
> that site-dump feature) or including links for them here, but in
> several cases, the information on those pages was valuable to me, as
> it helped to confirm my memories of what some of the companies (esp.
> Clarus and a few other oldies) had been claiming about their products
> in the early days.
>
> with care,
> --Vinny