het bitje August

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on:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina110.html

is the August issue of *het bitje* available for download.

It is in three languages.

This time it describes a small detector.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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Hi all,

I received a single Noise Harvester today. I checked it
with my Stetzerizer meter, and the meter readings are no
different when the Harvester is plugged in or not. Does
anyone know what precisely this meter is reading? Is it a
single frequency, or a combination of frequencies?

It'll take more investigation to determine if I feel
anything from this single Noise Harvester. So far
I've only used it briefly, and did not experience
any sharp pains in my head, which every other
capacitor filter has caused me almost immediately. And
I'm not concerned about it not registering on the
Stetzerizer meter, as the Quantum MiniMax and Power
strips don't register on that meter either, yet I
can feel the difference with those plugged in.

Marc

> I received a single Noise Harvester today. I checked it
> with my Stetzerizer meter, and the meter readings are no
> different when the Harvester is plugged in or not.

Oh wait, I just tried this experiment again, and the
Noise Harvester *did* change the Stetzer meter readings.
Without the Noise Harvester plugged in, the readings
were on the order of 145. With it plugged in, the
reading dropped to about 105. That's not a big
drop though...

Marc

Bit enough for me to try one. Ordering one now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:19 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Noise Harvester arrives


> I received a single Noise Harvester today. I checked it
> with my Stetzerizer meter, and the meter readings are no
> different when the Harvester is plugged in or not.

Oh wait, I just tried this experiment again, and the
Noise Harvester *did* change the Stetzer meter readings.
Without the Noise Harvester plugged in, the readings
were on the order of 145. With it plugged in, the
reading dropped to about 105. That's not a big
drop though...

Marc



   

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Have you tried other outlets on the circuit to see what kind of effect it may have on them both closer to the fuse box (working backwards) and fartheraway from the fuse box? Any effect on outlets on other circuits than the one it is plugged into? Does putting it close to the fusebox the way they recommend placement of the stetzer filters give improvement in readings at the other end of the circuit.? Just a few questions I can think of off thetop. thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:19 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Noise Harvester arrives


> I received a single Noise Harvester today. I checked it
> with my Stetzerizer meter, and the meter readings are no
> different when the Harvester is plugged in or not.

Oh wait, I just tried this experiment again, and the
Noise Harvester *did* change the Stetzer meter readings.
Without the Noise Harvester plugged in, the readings
were on the order of 145. With it plugged in, the
reading dropped to about 105. That's not a big
drop though...

Marc



   

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

denom wrote:
> Have you tried other outlets on the circuit to see what kind of
> effect it may have on them both closer to the fuse box (working backwards)
> and farther away from the fuse box? Any effect on outlets
> on other circuits than the one it is plugged into? Does putting it
> close to the fusebox the way they recommend placement of the stetzer filters
> give improvement in readings at the other end of the
> circuit.? Just a few questions I can think of off the top.

In my living room (where I've been testing so far), I don't know which way
is upstream or downstream of the fusebox. I did try plugging in the
noise harvester in outlets to the left and to the right of the meter.
To the left, the meter readings dropped, while to the right, the meter
readings went up -- I seem to recall Charles saying that the
Stetzer filters also did this. Can one determine which way is closer
to the fusebox based on this?

I then went and plugged the Neutralizer into the kitchen (presumably
a different circuit) and the meter reading in the living room dropped
a little.

The Noise Harvester has a light which blinks more rapidly when it's
working harder. Curiously, I've found outlets where it doesn't blink
very fast (once a second), and then I go over to a nearby outlet, and
it blinks much more rapidly (10 times a second?). I've brought
the Stetzer meter over to those outlets, and do see that there is
a higher reading on these outlets... (e.g. 200 instead of 150)

Marc

Thanks for the info. I can't wait till mine arrives. I'll just buy them slowly until I got enough of them. You got high readings in your house. I never could get mine down below 25 to 30. Maybe now I will be able to.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Noise Harvester arrives


denom wrote:
> Have you tried other outlets on the circuit to see what kind of
> effect it may have on them both closer to the fuse box (working backwards)
> and farther away from the fuse box? Any effect on outlets
> on other circuits than the one it is plugged into? Does putting it
> close to the fusebox the way they recommend placement of the stetzer filters
> give improvement in readings at the other end of the
> circuit.? Just a few questions I can think of off the top.

In my living room (where I've been testing so far), I don't know which way
is upstream or downstream of the fusebox. I did try plugging in the
noise harvester in outlets to the left and to the right of the meter.
To the left, the meter readings dropped, while to the right, the meter
readings went up -- I seem to recall Charles saying that the
Stetzer filters also did this. Can one determine which way is closer
to the fusebox based on this?

I then went and plugged the Neutralizer into the kitchen (presumably
a different circuit) and the meter reading in the living room dropped
a little.

The Noise Harvester has a light which blinks more rapidly when it's
working harder. Curiously, I've found outlets where it doesn't blink
very fast (once a second), and then I go over to a nearby outlet, and
it blinks much more rapidly (10 times a second?). I've brought
the Stetzer meter over to those outlets, and do see that there is
a higher reading on these outlets... (e.g. 200 instead of 150)

Marc


   

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> You got high readings in your house. I never could get mine down below 25 to 30.

I recently moved into this house, and these readings are about the same as
they were in my previous house. Historically, my favorite way to deal with
the electrical lines has been to use the Quantum Products "Mini-Max" or
"Power Conditioner", which doesn't affect the Stetzer meter at all, but
I can certainly feel the difference! So I don't know exactly how
important these Stetzer meter readings really are, as I suspect the
Stetzer meter is designed to make their filters look good. I've read that
a company called AudioPrism make both a meter and a line filter, and
essentially the filter removes frequencies around 200 khz, and the
meter measures frequencies around 200 khz. Not very useful, but
the meter sure makes the filters look good! (but their filters don't
do anything to the Stetzer meter)

Last night I watched a DVD movie with the Noise Harmonizer plugged in
next to the TV. My impression was that the TV picture looked better
than it usually does (which is really what the Noise Harmonizer is
marketed for), but I'm going to need to do further testing to ensure
that this is not simply a placebo effect (after all, this is a new
house for me, so I'm not really used to what things are normally like
here). And I did NOT get any sharp pains in my head, which I did
get when trying the Stetzer and AudioPrism filters.

Marc

> The Noise Harvester has a light which blinks more rapidly when it's
> working harder. Curiously, I've found outlets where it doesn't blink
> very fast (once a second), and then I go over to a nearby outlet, and
> it blinks much more rapidly (10 times a second?).

This morning, I went and re-plugged the Noise Harvester into the outlets
which were causing it to blink furiously last night, and now they are
blinking much less frequently.

Also, the Stetzer meter is reading only about 45 this morning, and at
this low reading, my one Noise Harmonizer isn't having any effect on
the meter (although the Harmonizer is flashing, and presumably removing
noise)

Also, as to the big question, whether the Noise Harvester is making any
difference in the way I feel, that I cannot say for sure at this point.
I did feel a bit different watching TV last night, but I cannot say
yet whether it was the Noise Harvester that was responsible, nor can
I really say if the feeling was good or bad! So further testing is
required, with and without the Noise Harvester present... (I'm not
quite ready to purchase a second one just yet!)

Marc