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SArjuna
Below is an article containing information about how much current is
returning to the substations via the ground. I see that it is not possible to
highlight or bold particular statements, but they are in there.
The Wisconsin PSC has changed their ruling on how much voltage is
allowed on the ground three times so far. Every time the amount exceeds their
present ruling, they just change the rule. The political clout of the electric
utilities is like that of the pharmeceutical and tobacco industries.
As the amount of high frequency pollution in the loads increases, the
amount of current that returns to the substations via the ground increases
directly, due to the skin effect.
Shivani
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April 23, 2000
New state rule won't cover earth currents
By CHRIS HARDIE Local news editor

A revised state rule that regulates such utility issues as billing, meter
reading and telephone customer response time does not regulate the amount of
electrical current that returns through the earth.

An early version of Wisconsin Public Service Commission Chapter 113 contained
a pro posed voltage level, but it was dropped from the version that has just
passed legislative review.

The issue of how much electricity is flowing into the ground from power lines
and its effect on cows is at the center of the controversy over stray
voltage, the term used to describe earth currents that have an adverse effect on
cows. It is the focus of the Michigan attorney general's office complaint against
Consumers Energy Co.

"It's our view that the utilities have no right to put electricity in the
ground by any means," said Peter Lark, assistant in charge of special litigation
for the Michigan attorney general's office. "There should be no electricity
going into the ground."

The grounded power line system -- which features a grounded neutral wire that
returns current to the substation -- is used all over the country.
Electricity flows through the system from the substation and returns on the neutral line
and in the ground to complete the circuit. Grounding, the process of running
a wire from the neutral to a metal rod driven in the ground, is done for
safety purposes.

No one disputes that electricity flows through the ground, but the
controversy is over what level is harmful. And there are no regulations in Wisconsin or
apparently in any other state that establishes a voltage level for primary
neutral-to-earth voltage.

The early version of Chapter 113, which defines power quality terms and sets
utility service standards, set a limit of 3 volts neutral-to-earth voltage.
Mark Cook, manager of the Public Service Com mission Rural Electric Power
Services Program, said the limit was dropped because it was considered a double
standard.

Cook said the PSC's current standard that defines stray voltage -- at least
0.5 volts of 60-hertz current at animal contact -- adequately covers
neutral-to-earth measurements.

"We know that one-third of the voltage (in neutral-to-earth voltage) will
show up in cow contact," Cook said. "If we have 0.5 or 1 volt on cow contact,
that's 1.5 to 3 volts at those levels. The average neutral-to-earth voltage in
Wisconsin is about 1.4 volts at the farm."

Cook said there would be difficulties regulating the standard and coming up
with a test protocol. He said some utilities have their own neutral-to-earth
voltage guidelines.

Cook said while there is no PSC rule on how much current should return on the
neutral line compared to the ground, he said the guideline is 66 percent.
"The range is actually 30 to 90 percent," he said. "When you have a current ratio
in that range it's unlikely to have a cow contact range above a level of
concern."

But according to the Jackson Electric Cooperative, a power line that served
the Gary Stetzer dairy farm in rural Black River Falls and was replaced because
of stray voltage problems on the Stetzer farm, was returning 70 percent of
the current. The new power line, which Stetzer and the cooperative say took care
of the stray voltage problems, returned 85 percent of the current.

A 1995 survey by the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission of 48 utilities
found that 59 percent of the current returns through the earth. The Michigan
attorney general says as much as 75 percent of Consumers Energy returns through
the earth.

"The reality is with a multigrounded system, part of the current associated
with customer load flows through the earth," Cook said.

Duane Dahlberg, a retired physicist who is now a consultant for The
Electromagnetics Research Foundation in Moorhead, Minn., and has studied ground
currents and stray voltage since 1983, said the conductivity of the earth determines
how electrical current returns to the substation. Electricity follows the path
of least resistance, so if the earth is a better conductor than the neutral
wire, the current will flow into the earth.

"There has been no program for determining the magnitudes of these currents,
nor any effort placed on mapping the paths of these currents in the earth,"
Dahlberg said. "The apparent belief is that once the currents enter the earth,
they are 'out of sight, out of mind,' and consequently, little thought has been
given to possible effects.

"It is almost unbelievable that electric current from the distribution system
is free to literally travel through every animate and inanimate object that
is contact with the earth."

Utility officials have told the Tribune that Dahlberg is not a credible
source, citing an Iowa Supreme Court stray voltage case where the court ruled that
his testimony was not credible.

But according to the Michigan attorney general's complaint, the flow of
ground currents from Consumers electric system causes economic losses and harm to
dairy and livestock animals.

Charlie MacInnis, director of news and information for Consumers, said the
utility's ground currents do not cause farmers harm.

"There are small amounts of ground current everywhere we go, but in the case
of our system the ground current is principally flowing on the wires and the
small amount in the ground is going from one of our grounds to another one,"
MacInnis said. "It's highly unlikely that any electricity from our system has
any ability to get to the farm."




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Andrew McAfee
Please send the link or how I can site this quote in the future.
thank you for the info.
Andrew
On Sep 23, 2005, at 9:41 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Below is an article containing information about how much current
> is
> returning to the substations via the ground. I see that it is not
> possible to
> highlight or bold particular statements, but they are in there.
> The Wisconsin PSC has changed their ruling on how much voltage is
> allowed on the ground three times so far. Every time the amount
> exceeds their
> present ruling, they just change the rule. The political clout of
> the electric
> utilities is like that of the pharmeceutical and tobacco industries.
> As the amount of high frequency pollution in the loads increases,
> the
> amount of current that returns to the substations via the ground
> increases
> directly, due to the skin effect.
> Shivani
> -----------------
>
> April 23, 2000
> New state rule won't cover earth currents
> By CHRIS HARDIE Local news editor
>
> A revised state rule that regulates such utility issues as billing,
> meter
> reading and telephone customer response time does not regulate the
> amount of
> electrical current that returns through the earth.
>
> An early version of Wisconsin Public Service Commission Chapter 113
> contained
> a pro posed voltage level, but it was dropped from the version that
> has just
> passed legislative review.
>
> The issue of how much electricity is flowing into the ground from
> power lines
> and its effect on cows is at the center of the controversy over stray
> voltage, the term used to describe earth currents that have an adverse
> effect on
> cows. It is the focus of the Michigan attorney general's office
> complaint against
> Consumers Energy Co.
>
> "It's our view that the utilities have no right to put electricity in
> the
> ground by any means," said Peter Lark, assistant in charge of special
> litigation
> for the Michigan attorney general's office. "There should be no
> electricity
> going into the ground."
>
> The grounded power line system -- which features a grounded neutral
> wire that
> returns current to the substation -- is used all over the country.
> Electricity flows through the system from the substation and returns
> on the neutral line
> and in the ground to complete the circuit. Grounding, the process of
> running
> a wire from the neutral to a metal rod driven in the ground, is done
> for
> safety purposes.
>
> No one disputes that electricity flows through the ground, but the
> controversy is over what level is harmful. And there are no
> regulations in Wisconsin or
> apparently in any other state that establishes a voltage level for
> primary
> neutral-to-earth voltage.
>
> The early version of Chapter 113, which defines power quality terms
> and sets
> utility service standards, set a limit of 3 volts neutral-to-earth
> voltage.
> Mark Cook, manager of the Public Service Com mission Rural Electric
> Power
> Services Program, said the limit was dropped because it was considered
> a double
> standard.
>
> Cook said the PSC's current standard that defines stray voltage -- at
> least
> 0.5 volts of 60-hertz current at animal contact -- adequately covers
> neutral-to-earth measurements.
>
> "We know that one-third of the voltage (in neutral-to-earth voltage)
> will
> show up in cow contact," Cook said. "If we have 0.5 or 1 volt on cow
> contact,
> that's 1.5 to 3 volts at those levels. The average neutral-to-earth
> voltage in
> Wisconsin is about 1.4 volts at the farm."
>
> Cook said there would be difficulties regulating the standard and
> coming up
> with a test protocol. He said some utilities have their own
> neutral-to-earth
> voltage guidelines.
>
> Cook said while there is no PSC rule on how much current should return
> on the
> neutral line compared to the ground, he said the guideline is 66
> percent.
> "The range is actually 30 to 90 percent," he said. "When you have a
> current ratio
> in that range it's unlikely to have a cow contact range above a level
> of
> concern."
>
> But according to the Jackson Electric Cooperative, a power line that
> served
> the Gary Stetzer dairy farm in rural Black River Falls and was
> replaced because
> of stray voltage problems on the Stetzer farm, was returning 70
> percent of
> the current. The new power line, which Stetzer and the cooperative say
> took care
> of the stray voltage problems, returned 85 percent of the current.
>
> A 1995 survey by the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission of 48
> utilities
> found that 59 percent of the current returns through the earth. The
> Michigan
> attorney general says as much as 75 percent of Consumers Energy
> returns through
> the earth.
>
> "The reality is with a multigrounded system, part of the current
> associated
> with customer load flows through the earth," Cook said.
>
> Duane Dahlberg, a retired physicist who is now a consultant for The
> Electromagnetics Research Foundation in Moorhead, Minn., and has
> studied ground
> currents and stray voltage since 1983, said the conductivity of the
> earth determines
> how electrical current returns to the substation. Electricity follows
> the path
> of least resistance, so if the earth is a better conductor than the
> neutral
> wire, the current will flow into the earth.
>
> "There has been no program for determining the magnitudes of these
> currents,
> nor any effort placed on mapping the paths of these currents in the
> earth,"
> Dahlberg said. "The apparent belief is that once the currents enter
> the earth,
> they are 'out of sight, out of mind,' and consequently, little thought
> has been
> given to possible effects.
>
> "It is almost unbelievable that electric current from the distribution
> system
> is free to literally travel through every animate and inanimate object
> that
> is contact with the earth."
>
> Utility officials have told the Tribune that Dahlberg is not a credible
> source, citing an Iowa Supreme Court stray voltage case where the
> court ruled that
> his testimony was not credible.
>
> But according to the Michigan attorney general's complaint, the flow of
> ground currents from Consumers electric system causes economic losses
> and harm to
> dairy and livestock animals.
>
> Charlie MacInnis, director of news and information for Consumers, said
> the
> utility's ground currents do not cause farmers harm.
>
> "There are small amounts of ground current everywhere we go, but in
> the case
> of our system the ground current is principally flowing on the wires
> and the
> small amount in the ground is going from one of our grounds to another
> one,"
> MacInnis said. "It's highly unlikely that any electricity from our
> system has
> any ability to get to the farm."
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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