furnace/magnetic fields

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the info, yes our furnace works the same way - no power - no furnace - rats.

I'm trying to come up with a way to live with no power - its not that easy. Any ideas?

Thanks again

Judy


From: "Ian Kemp" <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: Natural gas boilers

Yes, we measured our gas boiler with a field meter and found it gave a
magnetic (not electric) field when the furnace was alight. The furnace has
an electrical relay to open the gas supply line, and this is a coil
(transformer), hence the magnetic field. As far as I know this is virtually
standard on boilers, at least in the UK, for safety reasons (the gas supply
automatically shuts off if the power or ignition fails). With this type of
boiler, turning off the electrical power will stop it working completely.
Ian



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> Thanks for the info, yes our furnace works the same way - no power -
no furnace - rats.  
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> I'm trying to come up with a way to live with no power - its not
that easy. Any ideas?
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> Thanks again
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> Judy
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> I don't know where you live but in the states I bought a product
called "cozy wall vent furnace" from a company run by I think a Amish
person in Idaho. There is no electricity required for it. It vents
to the outside of the house and so you'd have to put a hole in the
wall to install it. It came in very handy a few years ago when the
electricy went out do to an ice storm in the wintertime for about a
week. Mine runs on propane. The propane pipe runs under the house.  
I disconnected it from the steel I-beams under my home and grounded it
separately. But I still get a slight reading on my tri-field when the
meter is right up next to the pipe. About a 1 and a half on the
magnectic scale. They will also run on natural gas.
>

Hi, Judy,

I have a "gas floor furnace". These were common before the days of electricity and, yes, you can still buy them! We got a new one about 7 years ago because we liked our original one so much. What it is, is, an open grate with a gas burner attached to the ceiling of the basement. Since we live in a flood prone area, having the furnace 5 feet off of the basement floor helps. This furnace relies on the fact that hot air rises and cold air drops. There is no electrical fan. And the thermometer runs on piezel (spelling??) electric from the gas, itself.

We have a large 2 story house and it works well heating the house--our heating was always less than the neighborhood average and we keep our home toasty, not cool. (Tho I think this may be about to change with a 70% rise in area gas prices this year!) I do imagine that where you place a furnace like this will affect how well it heats. Also, because it is an open flame beneath a floor grate, you must be careful not to drop anything combustible on it. It is not a great system to have with children around, however, my son survived and only lost a toy van and some crayons to it. ;) You do have to be very careful with kids and strangers to the house--it can burn if someone stands on it.

If you need more info on finding one of these, I can send it.

Good health,
Diane (Yes, I REALLY am Diane and not Evie or Mia! I just forget to sign Diane alot because I spend so much time incognito as Mia at 3 other forums. I had a few bad experiences with people online calling and dropping by my house, so just do not ask any questions re what town I live in and we will be fine. lol And no, 15422 is not my zip--it is to confuse the public.)

Judy Marie Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Ian,

Thanks for the info, yes our furnace works the same way - no power - no furnace - rats.

I'm trying to come up with a way to live with no power - its not that easy. Any ideas?

Thanks again

Judy


From: "Ian Kemp" <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: Natural gas boilers

Yes, we measured our gas boiler with a field meter and found it gave a
magnetic (not electric) field when the furnace was alight. The furnace has
an electrical relay to open the gas supply line, and this is a coil
(transformer), hence the magnetic field. As far as I know this is virtually
standard on boilers, at least in the UK, for safety reasons (the gas supply
automatically shuts off if the power or ignition fails). With this type of
boiler, turning off the electrical power will stop it working completely.
Ian



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Yes, there s a nice book called "Living Without Electricity"
See http://www.lessemf.com/book8.html

"A charming and useful book explains how to cook and store food, pump water,
wash clothes and even run farms and business- all without electricity. Want
to know how to light a room? Keep warm? Communicate without a phone? Find
some obvious and not so obvious answers to these and many more questions.
Based on the non-electric and practical lifestyles of the Amish. 128 pp."

Emil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Marie Taylor" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: [eSens] furnace/magnetic fields


> Hi Ian,
>
> Thanks for the info, yes our furnace works the same way - no power - no
furnace - rats.
>
> I'm trying to come up with a way to live with no power - its not that
easy. Any ideas? has
> an electrical relay to open the gas supply line, and this is a coil
> (transformer), hence the magnetic field. As far as I know this is
virtually
> standard on boilers, at least in the UK, for safety reasons (the gas
supply
> automatically shuts off if the power or ignition fails). With this type
of