fridge

HI again
Also wonderig what is best way to protect against EMF's from fridge.  I get very clumsy when I am in there and my fridge reads quite HIGH with my tri field meter.  I have seen some sort of shielding online and a timer but I don't know what is best.

We suggest putting the refrigerator in a timer or switch, so it can be
turned off at the necessary times.

Emil



> HI again
> Also wonderig what is best way to protect against EMF's from fridge.  I
> get very clumsy when I am in there and my fridge reads quite HIGH with my
> tri field meter.  I have seen some sort of shielding online and a timer
> but I don't know what is best.
>

Bruce made a circuit to use a motion sensor to turn off
the switch when he's near.  You can also run an extension
cord to a switched outlet (be careful... "permanent" extension
cords are considered a hazard and are a code violation).
Don't use a cord meant for lamps only.

Or get a new fridge... Conserv is the best bet, but not as big
as most US models.  SunFrost is also not bad, though kind
of noisy in my opinion.

A big piece of steel can reduce the field in the next room behind
the fridge.


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Bruce made a circuit to use a motion sensor to turn off
the switch when he's near.  You can also run an extension
cord to a switched outlet (be careful... "permanent" extension
cords are considered a hazard and are a code violation).
Don't use a cord meant for lamps only.

Or get a new fridge... Conserv is the best bet, but not as big
as most US models.  SunFrost is also not bad, though kind
of noisy in my opinion.

A big piece of steel can reduce the field in the next room behind
the fridge.


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 Unless your frig is itself creating harmful frequencies, installing Stetzer filters on the A an B  line of your home will cut down the "dirty electicity" frequencies being broadcast from the frig.  if you are on city water, you may need to deal with frequencies on the incoming water pipe, as well.

I have heard that ice makers create harmful frequencies, but have not tested one to see.  Has anyone here?

Even at the peak of my electrical sensitivity when i was a virtual walking meter, I never reacted to our frig at all.   It's an old one.  No ice maker.  It does not add frequencies to the electricity. Just increases the field strength, and if the field is "clean" that does not cause symptoms.  ES symptoms are caused by the frequencies present.

 
Shivani
www.LifeEnergies.com




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Hello,

please have a look at:
http://www.minderstraling.nl/Pagina050.html

As can be seen, the door of our fridge does emit a number of nasty frequencies.
Stetzer filters do not help here. They can only see that these frequencies do not go into the mains electricitry net.
But Stetzer filters can not do this job right, because they only work up to 150 kHz.

It is clear, that frequencies from 3 MHz up to 16 MHz are transmitted, also into the air, what I call *dirty air*.

Although hardliners would say, that the field strenght of these frequencies is not high (in order to cause heating effects), it is a fact, that electrosensitive people may react to these fields with adverse health effects.

That is the reason why f.i. PUK experiences heavy trouble with the plasma TV from his neighbour across the street.
He gets *dirty power* over the mains electricity net, and *dirty air* through the air.

Mobile phone masts may also emit *dirty air*, because some electronic parts in their switching cabinets may cause this.
I have a client who had a lot of dirty air in the corner of her house that way.
I advised for mounting an outside grounding antenna.
About half a meter from the roof-rain-gutter (facia) a copper tube was mounted against the housefront and leaded onto a good grounding rod. The copper tubing was optically insulated with foam against thieves.
She now can use this side of the house, and even the cat is very satisfied.

My point is, that a Stetzerizer meter only works up to 150 kHz.
An Entech meter goes up to 800 kHz (one may hear local radio transmissions).
And a spectrumanalyser may go to 20 or 30 MHz.
I also use some detectors for quickly finding sources.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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   Unless your frig is itself creating harmful frequencies, installing Stetzer filters on the A an B  line of your home will cut down the "dirty electicity" frequencies being broadcast from the frig.  if you are on city water, you may need to deal with frequencies on the incoming water pipe, as well.

  I have heard that ice makers create harmful frequencies, but have not tested one to see.  Has anyone here?

  Even at the peak of my electrical sensitivity when i was a virtual walking meter, I never reacted to our frig at all.   It's an old one.  No ice maker.  It does not add frequencies to the electricity. Just increases the field strength, and if the field is "clean" that does not cause symptoms.  ES symptoms are caused by the frequencies present.

   
  Shivani
  www.LifeEnergies.com




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What is A & B lines? Loni

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Unless your frig is itself creating harmful frequencies, installing Stetzer filters on the A an B line of your home will cut down the "dirty electicity" frequencies being broadcast from the frig. if you are on city water, you may need to deal with frequencies on the incoming water pipe, as well.

I have heard that ice makers create harmful frequencies, but have not tested one to see. Has anyone here?

Even at the peak of my electrical sensitivity when i was a virtual walking meter, I never reacted to our frig at all. It's an old one. No ice maker. It does not add frequencies to the electricity. Just increases the field strength, and if the field is "clean" that does not cause symptoms. ES symptoms are caused by the frequencies present.

Shivani
www.LifeEnergies.com

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Charles,

That's good news that the plasma dirty power can be fixed.

I'm still in beginner mode.

How can we test our mains to see not only if it's okay but what we're picking up from neighbors?


Thanks, Kathy

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      Hello,



please have a look at:

http://www.minderstraling.nl/Pagina050.html



As can be seen, the door of our fridge does emit a number of nasty frequencies.

Stetzer filters do not help here. They can only see that these frequencies do not go into the mains electricitry net.

But Stetzer filters can not do this job right, because they only work up to 150 kHz.



It is clear, that frequencies from 3 MHz up to 16 MHz are transmitted, also into the air, what I call *dirty air*.



Although hardliners would say, that the field strenght of these frequencies is not high (in order to cause heating effects), it is a fact, that electrosensitive people may react to these fields with adverse health effects.



That is the reason why f.i. PUK experiences heavy trouble with the plasma TV from his neighbour across the street.

He gets *dirty power* over the mains electricity net, and *dirty air* through the air.



Mobile phone masts may also emit *dirty air*, because some electronic parts in their switching cabinets may cause this.

I have a client who had a lot of dirty air in the corner of her house that way.

I advised for mounting an outside grounding antenna.

About half a meter from the roof-rain-gutter (facia) a copper tube was mounted against the housefront and leaded onto a good grounding rod. The copper tubing was optically insulated with foam against thieves.

She now can use this side of the house, and even the cat is very satisfied.



My point is, that a Stetzerizer meter only works up to 150 kHz.

An Entech meter goes up to 800 kHz (one may hear local radio transmissions).

And a spectrumanalyser may go to 20 or 30 MHz.

I also use some detectors for quickly finding sources.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton



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Unless your frig is itself creating harmful frequencies, installing Stetzer filters on the A an B  line of your home will cut down the "dirty electicity" frequencies being broadcast from the frig.  if you are on city water, you may need to deal with frequencies on the incoming water pipe, as well.



I have heard that ice makers create harmful frequencies, but have not tested one to see.  Has anyone here?



Even at the peak of my electrical sensitivity when i was a virtual walking meter, I never reacted to our frig at all.   It's an old one.  No ice maker.  It does not add frequencies to the electricity. Just increases the field strength, and if the field is "clean" that does not cause symptoms.  ES symptoms are caused by the frequencies present.



Shivani

  www.LifeEnergies.com



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Hi,
 
I have found that just pulling the fridge out from the wall abit helps with the emfs I feel from mine.  My fridge was bothering me 2 rooms away when I laid in bed.  When up against the wall, it bothered me; pulled out 6" it doesn't.  There are also rubber feet you can put under it to help with vibration.  I thought about doing that, but found I didn't need to after I just pulled it away from the wall a bit.   
 
Diane

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Unless your frig is itself creating harmful frequencies, installing Stetzer filters on the A an B line of your home will cut down the "dirty electicity" frequencies being broadcast from the frig. if you are on city water, you may need to deal with frequencies on the incoming water pipe, as well.

I have heard that ice makers create harmful frequencies, but have not tested one to see. Has anyone here?

Even at the peak of my electrical sensitivity when i was a virtual walking meter, I never reacted to our frig at all. It's an old one. No ice maker. It does not add frequencies to the electricity. Just increases the field strength, and if the field is "clean" that does not cause symptoms. ES symptoms are caused by the frequencies present.

Shivani
www.LifeEnergies.com

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