flying and electrosensitivity

Hey,

I'm a new member of these forum and so always on the risk to ask silly questions that where asked and answered lots of times already.

My girlfriend got badly electrosensitiv during the last year. Her pretty metallic teeth are all redone but I didn't help so far. It started with mobile phones, then wireless internet and know it's even regular light bulbs that can cause headaches. We are searching for a solution very hard.
If someone could advise some former entries in this forum that gives some hints to experts or therapies that would be very nice.

But my original questions is: How do I know if she can flight? I tried to find information's on flying with electro sensitivity … but couldn't.
I found a isolated house on an isolated island I really believe it can onlydo her good. But how to get there???

Thanks a lot for any advise.

Kon from Ulm, Germany

> My girlfriend got badly electrosensitiv during the last year. Her pretty
> metallic teeth are all redone but I didn't help so far. It started with
> mobile phones, then wireless internet and know it's even regular light
> bulbs that can cause headaches. We are searching for a solution very
> hard.

It could be many things -- heavy metal toxicity (of which having your
fillings redone is only the first step, you then need to detoxify the
rest of the body, parasites, vitamin or mineral deficiencies, etc.
I also find that supplementing with antioxidants and essential fatty
acids to both be helpful.

> But my original questions is: How do I know if she can flight?

When I was really sensitive, I did not find flying to be so horrible.
You do have to worry about all the electronics in the airport and
nearby you inside the plane. But I was not bothered by the engines
on the planes at all.

> I found a isolated house on an isolated island I really believe it can
> only do her good.

Of course, isolation will not solve the problem. You probably need
to be near some type of civilization so that you can work with
a doctor of some type to help with nutrition, parasites, detox, etc.

Marc

> I'm a new member of these forum and so always on the risk to ask silly
> questions that where asked and answered lots of times already.

Oh, and if you are completely new to electrical sensitivity,
you might be interested in reading this website, written by
someone who overcame his ES:

http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/

Marc

In a message dated 3/9/2009 8:48:44 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
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> I found a isolated house on an isolated island I really believe it can
> only do her good.

Of course, isolation will not solve the problem. You probably need
to be near some type of civilization so that you can work with
a doctor of some type to help with nutrition, parasites, detox, etc.



There is also the issue of becoming to pure, you probably need to keep your
hand in, as you might find that both mentally and physically you will find
re-introduction to the real world all the more difficult - Hormesis whats that.


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Hi, Kon,
 
No question is too silly here--just read back over some of my posts.  ;)  Seriously, tho, how can you learn if you can't ask?  
 
Kon, I have no experience with flying (wish I could fly, but pesticides aremy problem and anaphylaxis in the air is a scary thought).  If, however, your girlfriend has no pesticide or mcs problems, then flying probably will be ok for her.  I disagree with the others here on the subject of getting away from ES on an island.  (Can I come too???  j/k)  If your girlfriend were to get away and THEN, on the island, be able to detox successfully, take the needed supplementation, and get her body back to a healthy place, she might react worse when she returned to civilization or she might not.  (She might not even react at all!)  Nobody here knows what would happen.  Sometimesreplies here are just conjecture--not hard facts.  I have been told by medical doctors to get away from electrical/magnetic sources as muchas possible because it is harder to heal when you are fighting multiple battles at the same time.  It is likely your girlfriend
would react again when she returned to civilization, but it is not likely she would react worse--though it might feel that way because she will have forgotten by then how she feels now.  I would welcome a vacation away,even if it were just that.  But realize that even getting away to an island might not work out if there is electricity there.  And, she would need some lifeline to civilization, because one can get into sticky situations sometimes when one tries to detox.  Detoxing is not easy and she will feel like crap for a long time from that.  Detoxing heavy metals from tooth fillings can be esp difficult.  That said, I still do not agree that going away to an island is necessarily a bad thing.  I think one reason many of us have so much problems detoxing is thatwe continue to stay in an electrified environment.  (And that, too, is just opinion.) 
 
Marc has a page that addresses some of the therapies we have discussed in the past, but I think each person here has to post to it and I haven't personally done that--so know there is more info out there, because many here may have not done that.  For me, tho, supplementation and detoxing have so far been the best helps.  If you desire to hear what has helped me, you can write me personally and I will send you further info on that.  Avoidance of emfs is still most important for me, however.  (But I am able to live a fairly normal life other than avoiding various places/things.)  I have been able to find ways to enable me to be on computer for long periods of time, daily, for instance.  I have been able to find the problems and address most of them in my home (I bought another house I hoped would be even better, but it turned out to be worse--don't know yet if I can in time make it safer; I hope so).  I am telling you this so you
understand--healing from es is usually a combo of avoidance techniques, addressing house/car problems, and treating the body.  It is not a "one fix addresses all" type of thing. 
 
My 2 cents, for what it is worth,
Diane

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, kraftlos <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: kraftlos <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] flying and electrosensitivity
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 4:38 PM






Hey,

I'm a new member of these forum and so always on the risk to ask silly questions that where asked and answered lots of times already.

My girlfriend got badly electrosensitiv during the last year. Her pretty metallic teeth are all redone but I didn't help so far. It started with mobile phones, then wireless internet and know it's even regular light bulbs that can cause headaches. We are searching for a solution very hard.
If someone could advise some former entries in this forum that gives some hints to experts or therapies that would be very nice.

But my original questions is: How do I know if she can flight? I tried to find information' s on flying with electro sensitivity … but couldn't.
I found a isolated house on an isolated island I really believe it can onlydo her good. But how to get there???

Thanks a lot for any advise.

Kon from Ulm, Germany

















     

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> I disagree with the others here on the
> subject of getting away from ES on an island. (Can I come too???)

Heh, heh... I went to Hawaii a couple of years ago, and I agree that
it is nice to find places completely away from EMFs, but then you
probably just have new problems that you didn't have at home --
sunburn, heat exhaustion, bug bites, colds/flus due to exposure to
sick people on the plane, bad reactions to suntan lotions... :-)

Marc

True, Marc,
 
I guess.  But isn't that a bit defeatist???  (Just teasing you abit.)  If we don't try things, we might miss healing.  Hawaii isn't exactly a deserted island without electricity and cell phones.  And you are rightabout bugs and sunburn..., but one can plan somewhat for those, too.  I am not saying that there are not side issues to living on an island that would not have to be dealt with.  But, if one were able to deal with those,it might work out.  With that attitude, I should not go out in the forest to ground myself, either--I might catch a bug or get poison ivy.... 
 
Diane

--- On Tue, 3/10/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] flying and electrosensitivity
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 5:01 PM






> I disagree with the others here on the
> subject of getting away from ES on an island. (Can I come too???)

Heh, heh... I went to Hawaii a couple of years ago, and I agree that
it is nice to find places completely away from EMFs, but then you
probably just have new problems that you didn't have at home --
sunburn, heat exhaustion, bug bites, colds/flus due to exposure to
sick people on the plane, bad reactions to suntan lotions... :-)

Marc
















     

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> Hawaii isn't exactly a deserted island without electricity and cell phones.

True, but you can find some pretty remote areas -- although I think
there is probably still cellphone coverage... :-) And even a remote
island will receive satellite signals and some radio signals as well.

I was just pointing out that changing locations can just mean you
are exchanging one set of problems for another... and I did indeed
have all those problems on my last trip to Maui... but I'd still
go back! :-)

Marc

Hi Diane,

thanks for you informative answer.



The thing with flying to the remote island...

Unfortunately, I was only talking about a vacation. Would be too good to live a
relaxed life in paradise. But at least I have to earn some money at one
point...



So that is the problem. It's only a two week vacation.

I thought 2 week away ... sea and sun, fresh air and nature, no emf would be a
good therapy.



But Suzanne, my girlfriend, is scared. She doesn't want to go, because she
believes the whole trip to the island would make her so sick, that she will not
be able to recover during the stay. She expecting a worst scenario, and I don't
blame her. But feel she is missing a chance.

Anyway ... of course she wished there would be people to talk with. To reassure
the she should go or better skip it.

But she can use a computer only 10min a day, so she can't get in touch with
this forum for right now.



Are there any people from France
in this list??? Or a number she could call. Her English is very good.

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Thanks
everybody for the answers.

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Kon

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Hi, Kon,
 
Oh I see--a 2 week vacation!  Well....  That could be bad or good, unfortunately, and she would not know until she went.  Vacations often do notwork for various reasons (as Marc said).  I thought you were going away with the idea of helping your girlfriend recover!  My mistake.  ;)  Ihave gone on vacations in the past where I was ill the entire trip.  I have gone on other vacations (camping type vacations work the best for me--deep in the forest, by a river or lake works personally) where I was fine.  I recently went 7 hours by car to a doctor in NY (didn't stay but came home the same day)--the office was an hour and a half north of NYC.  I thought the trip would be unbareable, but committed myself to the task.  I had no more problems traveling there than I have traveling here in the country!  (Which means I am able to use aluminum foil on my visors, bottles of water on the dash, and supplementation with calcium AEP and pantethine to
get me by.)  Save for the corridor past NYC itself, which was like the bigger towns and cities here--very bad emfs, which I avoid if at all possible--it was not worse at all.  So, your girlfriend might like a trip by car to a remote village in forest, if such exists--ask about cell phone reception there before you go, if reception is good there, it is not remote enough. 
 
Btw, my NY doctor told me that some of his es patients open these bottles of spring water like I use on my car dash and sip the water in them whenthey are in high emfs and find it helps them in a sort of homeopathic application.  But I didn't notice a difference doing that--the water actually makes me gag and tastes bad after it has been subjected to emfs all day.  I find sipping clean spring water does help me, tho.  He also told me some patients find saving their urine in a small dropper bottle, carrying it with them, and applying it to the insides of their wrists also helps them when they are in high emf areas.  I haven't gone there, but if I had to go thru really high emfs I probably would try it--it would have todo wonders for me to do it more than once, tho.  lol  (I just avoid these places when possible.)  So these are ideas which Suzanne might try ifshe decides to fly to the island. 
 
What kind of computer is Suzanne using?  Maybe some people here can help her with suggestions for that.  I take B12 (methyl cobalamin) sublingually at night before bed and that helps me to use the computer--it probably will take a while before she'd see a difference tho if she tries it (injections might work faster).  I suspect that the supplements we use here don't work universally because all of us are probably a bit different in our needs.  However, B12 is one of those supplements which might work, because itheals demyelinated nerves (a common problem area for many es people).  Calcium AEP and pantethine might also work because they help the lymphatic system and adrenals (among other things), which also are common problems for es people--your girlfriend would have these problems too, sinceshe is toxic with metals.  Vitamin D3 can help some people (use ONLY best quality natural D3 if she tries it--same with all supplements; they should be
the best quality, natural, and only as I describe them.  B12 will not likely work, for instance, if she takes a digestible one instead of sublingual--under the tongue.) 
 
Good luck, if she tries the trip--hope it works for her.  Hope your girlfriend Suzanne will soon be able to join us, herself.  Give her my best wishes,
Diane

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, Konstantin Kraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Konstantin Kraft <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] flying and electrosensitivity
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 6:40 AM








Hi Diane,

thanks for you informative answer.

The thing with flying to the remote island...

Unfortunately, I was only talking about a vacation. Would be too good to live a
relaxed life in paradise. But at least I have to earn some money at one
point...

So that is the problem. It's only a two week vacation.

I thought 2 week away ... sea and sun, fresh air and nature, no emf would be a
good therapy.

But Suzanne, my girlfriend, is scared. She doesn't want to go, because she
believes the whole trip to the island would make her so sick, that she willnot
be able to recover during the stay. She expecting a worst scenario, and I don't
blame her. But feel she is missing a chance.

Anyway ... of course she wished there would be people to talk with. To reassure
the she should go or better skip it.

But she can use a computer only 10min a day, so she can't get in touch with
this forum for right now.

Are there any people from France
in this list??? Or a number she could call. Her English is very good.

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Thanks
everybody for the answers.

Â

Kon

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