One thing that has been haunting me is a nausea and nerve pain that starts in
my chest and goes through my throat, up through my sinuses, and ends up in an ear ache. It is the last major symptom that I haven't been able to get rid of no matter what I do. I finally figured I would just live with it since it has been with me for so long. Dr. Hoffer told me before that I should stop using all forms of dairy products, and at first I listened, but then I slid back into using a few dairy products. So in the last week I stopped all dairy products again, but still I was feeling the nausea. Then I realized I was taking Colostrum everyday for my immune system, but this is also a dairy product, so I've stopped taking it too. Today is the first day I am 100% dairy free, and my symptoms are becoming less. I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up poisoning rest of body. I'm curious if others experience elevated ES symptoms when they eat dairy products? Glenn |
"I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in
milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up poisoning rest of body" Hi Glenn, Thats probably the A1 protein. There is a type of milk called A2 that you can research - it started in New Zealand I believe, but it is better for most of us as it has different protein make up than the normal A1 milk. Apparently the A1 protein is also classified as an opiate!? http://www.vegparadise.com/news35.html Of course raw milk is best for all of us, but again the market is dominated by regulation in favour of longer life poor quality half nuked products! http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html Cheers Pete On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 21:57:28 -0800, Glenn Coleman <[hidden email]> wrote: > > One thing that has been haunting me is a nausea and nerve pain that starts in > my chest and goes through my throat, up through my sinuses, and ends up in an > ear ache. It is the last major symptom that I haven't been able to get rid > of no matter what I do. I finally figured I would just live with it since it > has been with me for so long. > > Dr. Hoffer told me before that I should stop using all forms of dairy > products, and at first I listened, but then I slid back into using a few > dairy products. > > So in the last week I stopped all dairy products again, but still I was > feeling the nausea. Then I realized I was taking Colostrum everyday for my > immune system, but this is also a dairy product, so I've stopped taking it > too. > > Today is the first day I am 100% dairy free, and my symptoms are becoming > less. > > I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in > milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up > poisoning rest of body. > > I'm curious if others experience elevated ES symptoms when they eat dairy > products? > > Glenn > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > |
Hi Glenn,
I have had a similar thing happening, do not feel sick though and no pain, only I just feel a stream of energy, coming out to my left ear, I can squeeck it out. My glass Tachyon disk pulls it out, and or the earplugs behind the ear (also in the ear but the energy or air or gas, I call it "the thing" and know it is being pulled out because appears directly related to a period of about a month in my life at the start of my "ES crisis" or the start of definite strong allergy of man-made EM. It was pain then and now it goes out as energy. Have been saying this for quite awhile, but getting towards the end of the string of events, it is going out where it came in, MY HAIR (the roots of the tree of Life I AM)) http://www.tachyon-partners.com/healingcostarica Earplugs might bring relieve, worth a try, they send tachyon energy into inner ear. One actually can hear the energy come out against the plugs behind the ear, my glass necklace or the glass disk, it makes a loud rattling noise, but that is only if I press it. Or via my earrings onto the glass disk. The energy has broken the silver chain my hanger was on, now i wear it on a rope, easy, because I can adjust it. Wear it on my thymus, move it to behind my ear, or on third eyes chakra or heart, or on the neck on that "worry bump". The silica disks work, but from a distance. Have used them directle against the ear, but the energy breaks the silica. Seems tachyon works the best with at least two sources. To speed up the process I am considering earcandling. Have the candles (only two, they are hard to get around here) already for some time. Probably will combine it with Reiki and waiting for the right healer and moment now, one that knows how to protect in white light. Just got to shaky attempting it with the lady that sold them to me, like I always get a little scared for my healers. Even though there is a lot of ear-candling trashing on the internet, cannot help but feel a lot of people on the board will benefit greatly. They are also not legal for treatment anymore, so they are sold as "for fun use" in the States now. That's it. Muscle test on it!! Love Peter Needham <[hidden email]> wrote: "I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up poisoning rest of body" Hi Glenn, Thats probably the A1 protein. There is a type of milk called A2 that you can research - it started in New Zealand I believe, but it is better for most of us as it has different protein make up than the normal A1 milk. Apparently the A1 protein is also classified as an opiate!? http://www.vegparadise.com/news35.html Of course raw milk is best for all of us, but again the market is dominated by regulation in favour of longer life poor quality half nuked products! http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html Cheers Pete On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 21:57:28 -0800, Glenn Coleman <[hidden email]> wrote: > > One thing that has been haunting me is a nausea and nerve pain that starts in > my chest and goes through my throat, up through my sinuses, and ends up in an > ear ache. It is the last major symptom that I haven't been able to get rid > of no matter what I do. I finally figured I would just live with it since it > has been with me for so long. > > Dr. Hoffer told me before that I should stop using all forms of dairy > products, and at first I listened, but then I slid back into using a few > dairy products. > > So in the last week I stopped all dairy products again, but still I was > feeling the nausea. Then I realized I was taking Colostrum everyday for my > immune system, but this is also a dairy product, so I've stopped taking it > too. > > Today is the first day I am 100% dairy free, and my symptoms are becoming > less. > > I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in > milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up > poisoning rest of body. > > I'm curious if others experience elevated ES symptoms when they eat dairy > products? > > Glenn > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Pete makes a great point about the "milk" industry and real milk providers. I also got around the allergic rxn I had to the processed stuff they sell in grocery stores under the misleading term "milk". I started drinking real ("raw") milk which is, thankfully, available in CA. What you get from a "milk" processing plant is a recombined mixture of separated and processed components that originally came from real milk. But only after the separated components are super-heated, destroying the mammilian-life-supportive qualities of the real milk and turning the nurturing proteins into forms that are allergenic. Going through the processing pipes, full of heat-resistant bacteria, also adds something to the mix you don't want in your body. Funny thing is, the standard for processed "milk" is lower than for real milk -- especially in terms of the bacteriological count. Industry has to protect their contaminated investment... The biocompatibility of milk for humans is Mother's milk, sheep milk, goat milk, cow milk (all raw, of course) in this order. Beau --- In [hidden email], Peter Needham <peter.needham@g...> wrote: > "I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in > milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up > poisoning rest of body" > > Hi Glenn, > > Thats probably the A1 protein. There is a type of milk called A2 that > you can research - it started in New Zealand I believe, but it is > better for most of us as it has different protein make up than the > normal A1 milk. Apparently the A1 protein is also classified as an > opiate!? > > http://www.vegparadise.com/news35.html > > Of course raw milk is best for all of us, but again the market is > dominated by regulation in favour of longer life poor quality half > nuked products! > > http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html > > Cheers > Pete > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 21:57:28 -0800, Glenn Coleman > <ghcoleman@w...> wrote: > > > > One thing that has been haunting me is a nausea and nerve pain > > my chest and goes through my throat, up through my sinuses, and ends up in an > > ear ache. It is the last major symptom that I haven't been able to get rid > > of no matter what I do. I finally figured I would just live with it since it > > has been with me for so long. > > > > Dr. Hoffer told me before that I should stop using all forms of dairy > > products, and at first I listened, but then I slid back into using a few > > dairy products. > > > > So in the last week I stopped all dairy products again, but still I was > > feeling the nausea. Then I realized I was taking Colostrum everyday for my > > immune system, but this is also a dairy product, so I've stopped taking it > > too. > > > > Today is the first day I am 100% dairy free, and my symptoms are becoming > > less. > > > > I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in > > milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up > > poisoning rest of body. > > > > I'm curious if others experience elevated ES symptoms when they eat dairy > > products? > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > |
Beau,
When you say `raw`,do you mean uncooked for drinking or just unprocessed? I also have allergy to processed milk. Surprisingly I was in a village last year. I had unprocessed milk there and I did not have much allergy symptoms. Thanks. Nil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beau" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Milk products aggrevate my ES > > > Pete makes a great point about the "milk" industry and real milk > providers. I also got around the allergic rxn I had to the processed > stuff they sell in grocery stores under the misleading term "milk". I > started drinking real ("raw") milk which is, thankfully, available in > CA. What you get from a "milk" processing plant is a recombined > mixture of separated and processed components that originally came > from real milk. But only after the separated components are > > |
Hi Nil, The milk I drink isn't processed or cooked. It's taken straight from the cow or goat, then bottled and refrigerated. The cows or goats are also from small herds which are well-tended and treated humanely. They are fed on organically grown range grass and organic feed, no lactation-increasing hormones given. As long as the animals are well-treated, kept happy and healthy, the milk they produce surpasses standards for the allergenic and unhealthy bacteria-laden "milk" the industrialists foist on the rest of society. And in California it has to pass these standards every day, and not just once a month like the processed, reconstituted stuff they label pasteurized milk at the store. My household has consumed real milk for almost two years now. The health benefits are very noticeable. Here's a comparative example from the realmilk site: http://www.realmilk.com/whichchoose.html Beau --- In [hidden email], "yldiz" <ng2113@s...> wrote: > Beau, > > When you say `raw`,do you mean uncooked for drinking or just unprocessed? > I also have allergy to processed milk. Surprisingly I was in a village last > year. I had unprocessed milk there and I did not have much allergy symptoms. > > Thanks. > > Nil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beau" <netfarer2@y...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:16 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Milk products aggrevate my ES > > > > > > > > Pete makes a great point about the "milk" industry and real milk > > providers. I also got around the allergic rxn I had to the > > stuff they sell in grocery stores under the misleading term "milk". I > > started drinking real ("raw") milk which is, thankfully, available in > > CA. What you get from a "milk" processing plant is a recombined > > mixture of separated and processed components that originally came > > from real milk. But only after the separated components are > > > |
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Hi Nil,
Raw usually means un-pasturised and un-homogenised. It is a great source of nourishment with a bunch of enzymes that help digestion. It can be used as a whole food apparently. The heating processes basically kill much of the real goodness, and allows lower standards of milk quality due to heat treatment making it 'safe'. You can feed baby cows on raw milk (obviously) but they die on treated milk. This book is an amazing look at the dairy industry and raw milk for any who are interested. I would recommend everyone on this planet read it. It was a shocking and very education read. "The Untold Story Of Milk" by Ron Schmid - available at amazon Cheers Pete On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 05:29:24 -0000, Beau <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi Nil, > > The milk I drink isn't processed or cooked. It's taken straight from > the cow or goat, then bottled and refrigerated. The cows or goats are > also from small herds which are well-tended and treated humanely. > They are fed on organically grown range grass and organic feed, no > lactation-increasing hormones given. As long as the animals are > well-treated, kept happy and healthy, the milk they produce surpasses > standards for the allergenic and unhealthy bacteria-laden "milk" the > industrialists foist on the rest of society. And in California it has > to pass these standards every day, and not just once a month like the > processed, reconstituted stuff they label pasteurized milk at the > store. > > My household has consumed real milk for almost two years now. The > health benefits are very noticeable. > > Here's a comparative example from the realmilk site: > http://www.realmilk.com/whichchoose.html > > Beau > --- In [hidden email], "yldiz" <ng2113@s...> wrote: > > Beau, > > > > When you say `raw`,do you mean uncooked for drinking or just > unprocessed? > > I also have allergy to processed milk. Surprisingly I was in a > village last > > year. I had unprocessed milk there and I did not have much allergy > symptoms. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Nil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Beau" <netfarer2@y...> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:16 PM > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Milk products aggrevate my ES > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pete makes a great point about the "milk" industry and real milk > > > providers. I also got around the allergic rxn I had to the > processed > > > stuff they sell in grocery stores under the misleading term > "milk". I > > > started drinking real ("raw") milk which is, thankfully, > available in > > > CA. What you get from a "milk" processing plant is a recombined > > > mixture of separated and processed components that originally came > > > from real milk. But only after the separated components are > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > |
--- In [hidden email], Peter Needham <peter.needham@g...> > "The Untold Story Of Milk" by Ron Schmid - available at amazon Thanks for the info and book tip, Pete. Beau |
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I experience all sorts of negative symptoms with commercial milk and
dairy products that do not occur if I buy organic or Bio-dynamic products. This is because they are free of the antibiotics and hormone supplements etc added to animal feed. I keep saying this about dairy, and it amazes me how little this info gets taken on board by people. Commercial milk is toxic! I'm also amzed tghat more effort isn't made by the wholesalers of organic products to advertise these facts. Oh well - I guess we like to learn the hard way. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Coleman [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 4:57 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [esens] Milk products aggrevate my ES One thing that has been haunting me is a nausea and nerve pain that starts in my chest and goes through my throat, up through my sinuses, and ends up in an ear ache. It is the last major symptom that I haven't been able to get rid of no matter what I do. I finally figured I would just live with it since it has been with me for so long. Dr. Hoffer told me before that I should stop using all forms of dairy products, and at first I listened, but then I slid back into using a few dairy products. So in the last week I stopped all dairy products again, but still I was feeling the nausea. Then I realized I was taking Colostrum everyday for my immune system, but this is also a dairy product, so I've stopped taking it too. Today is the first day I am 100% dairy free, and my symptoms are becoming less. I also read an article in Dr. Hoffer's office about problems that caseine in milk can cause by creating some type of bacteria in intestine that ends up poisoning rest of body. I'm curious if others experience elevated ES symptoms when they eat dairy products? Glenn Yahoo! Groups Links |
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