[esens] Is PH of body impacted by EMF or mercury?

Hi, I live 90 minutes from Toronto. Could we make a concerted
effort to find out who Terry Chappell MD got his training from? I
can then go into TO and, with help of doctor fiends there, find out
as much about this process as possible from the people who do
the training. I'm going to call Terry's office now and see if I can
get the name of the centre. John, since you're a patient of his,
you migth also be able to get this information quickly. Do you
know when you might be chatting with him next? If anyone needs
a place to stay near Toronto you're welcome to visit with me.

David


--- In [hidden email], "john" <runicm@1...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I think after all these years of searching, spending vast
amounts of money, suffering the tortures of the damned for
uncounted years I've found the ultimate solution to my electrical
sensitivity, leaky gut, food allergies, chemical allergies,
depression, i.e. the whole ugly package.
> I realize what I've just said sounds like total absolute bullshit
so let me explain.
> First of all, let me state that I've been totally absolutely free of
all electrical sensitivities for the past 3 weeks that have plagued
me continously for 24 years.
> What caused this miracle? Two weeks ago I took the first
shot in a series of shots from my MD that's been instrumental in
keeping me alive for the past 10 years.
> On my previous visit, he told me that there was something
totally new that they were importing from Czechoslovakia that
had shown miraculous results in reversing severe health
problems caused by allergies including food allergies leading to
leaky gut among other things. I said that along with the leaky gut,
my electrical sensitivities were making my life a total hell
especially after undergoing a series of chelations to get rid of
heavy metals. He said that it was his opinion that electrical
sensitivity was caused by the same cascade of events that lead
to all allergies. He said that in his opinion, though the allergen
was in a class entirely different than anything now considered to
be responsible for allergic reactions, that he believed it operated
by the same process & might well respond to this therapy also.
> To tell you the truth, I had no great expectations for this. This
is about the thousanth thing I've tried over the years & there was
no reason to expect that this would produce any real results of
any consequence.
> They had to send for the shots, which are shipped from
eastern europe to Great Britton to Canada to the US. It took a
month for the first three shots to get here. They give a minimum
of three shots to determine if the person is receiving any benefit.
If after 3 shots no improvement is observed, the shots are
discontinued. If results are received, the shots are continued
until 10 have been given.
> By that time a persons bone marrow should be producing the
substance in these shots.
> At this time, the percentage of people taking the shots who've
gotten positive results is 87%. The substance is a combination
of "peptides". At this time, I don't really know what exactly a
peptide is. There was an explanation of how these shot work that
they gave me to read. It was very technical. My understanding is
that it stops the chain reaction of events that occur in all allergic
reactions. Antihistamines only work at the very end of these
chain reactions & do nothing of any long term benefit.
> According to my interpretation of this information, an allergen
causes the production of IG-E (immunoglobulin-E) which is
produced in great quantities whenever an allergen is detected.
IG-E then plugs into mast cells which then dump out
inflammation causing prostaglandins, histamine, along with
seratonin. This then leads to more inflammation, more IG-E
release & more & more things causing allergic reactions. More
foods, more inhalants, & probably more energy frequencies that
irritate already inflamed mucous membranes in the lungs, nose,
& gut.
> This is just my interpretation from what I've read & what I've
experienced so far taking these shots.
> The shots are taken in a series. After the first shot, another is
given a week later. The next is given after another 3 weeks &
from then on they are given monthly until 10 have been given.
> I was told that I might not notice anything until after the
second shot. I may be an exception but I could begin to notice a
definite reduction after only an hour. I'd had to drive 3 hours on
the Interstate to get the shot then sat in the doctors office for a
while under flourescent lights. I barely knew where I was at with
the terrific brain fog at that time. I ached all over, my feet were hot
& numb, my gut was boiling & burning, my hands were shaking,
my blood pressure & pulse were way up.
> After receiving the shot in the ass, boy did that hurt, I began
driving back. After about an hour my brain fog & fullness in the
head began to diminish, as well as the aching, burning in my
feet & other symptoms. The next day I woke up for the first time in
years feeling great. I felt refreshed, happy & felt Absolutely no
electrical sensitivity in all the places I'd always felt it & that's the
way its stayed for the last 3 weeks. I had my second shot a week
ago & will have the next in 2 weeks from now.
> I had decided not to mention anything about this here on the
eSens group until enough time had gone by that I was pretty
sure this wasn't just some fluke or placebo effect or something.
It's my luck of course that something could still go wrong of
course but at this time, I'm very optomistic.
> For anyone that wants to look into this, the only contact I can
give you is my doctor. He would know if there are other doctors in
the US doing this yet. I do know that this is something that can't
just be shipped to your regular doctor so he can give you the
shot. Any doctor in this program has to go to Toronto, Ontario to
receive instruction in administering this before he can give it.
> My doctors name is Terry Chappell, MD. His clinic is the
Celebration of Health Center in Bluffton, Ohio which is about 50
miles south of Toledo. His phone is 419-358-4627.
>
> John M.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi John,

I think I congratulated you on your fake heartattack some weeks ago??!! Were you already on your bullit ride then?? Here is my take:

Dunno could quote the bible, or other scriptures, shrek, wizard of OZ or what not. Go with David Yarrow:

"Ancient tradition explains when pwin Serpents twined about our spine (S=serpent+ pine (ie pineal gland, wondered why one of the energy healers gave me a pine cone) stand on their tails to feed their neuro-nectar to Eagle, they unite into winged serpent:

The Dragon

Then enlightenment's blue fire is released through our nervous system. We transcend the physical/PHI-cycle world to achieve Divine Awareness.

Tree of peace and caduseus discribe in different imagery from different cultures the same Hueman Nature. They are archetypal images- transcendinglanguage and culture to express a deeper unity of biology and spirit. From reptile to hue-man"


Sure the angels are rejoicing and welcoming you. Hope those brave ones here will understand that we caan beat this. Free from these change, slaying that dragon.

Feel the sheckels move out very quick in the last and soon will join you up there. One and a half year, now but enough.

You are Free . be sure you took more than 6 years to get there, thousands, but as there was no return when the going got touch and you had to pass through the two scary levels, there is no return now. You are truely free, rejoice!!! Once you reach 7th you cannot be hurt, the possiblities are infinite, this is the start of LIFE.

One by one we reach




john <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,
I think after all these years of searching, spending vast amounts of money, suffering the tortures of the damned for uncounted years I've found the ultimate solution to my electrical sensitivity, leaky gut, food allergies, chemical allergies, depression, i.e. the whole ugly package.
I realize what I've just said sounds like total absolute bullshit so let me explain.
First of all, let me state that I've been totally absolutely free of all electrical sensitivities for the past 3 weeks that have plagued me continously for 24 years.
What caused this miracle? Two weeks ago I took the first shot in a series of shots from my MD that's been instrumental in keeping me alive for the past 10 years.
On my previous visit, he told me that there was something totally new that they were importing from Czechoslovakia that had shown miraculous results in reversing severe health problems caused by allergies including food allergies leading to leaky gut among other things. I said that along with the leaky gut, my electrical sensitivities were making my life a total hell especially after undergoing a series of chelations to get rid of heavy metals. He said that it was his opinion that electrical sensitivity was caused by the same cascade of events that lead to all allergies. He said that in his opinion, though the allergen was in a class entirely different than anything now considered to be responsible for allergic reactions, that he believed it operated by the same process & might well respond to this therapy also.
To tell you the truth, I had no great expectations for this. This is about the thousanth thing I've tried over the years & there was no reason to expect that this would produce any real results of any consequence.
They had to send for the shots, which are shipped from eastern europe to Great Britton to Canada to the US. It took a month for the first three shots to get here. They give a minimum of three shots to determine if the person is receiving any benefit. If after 3 shots no improvement is observed, the shots are discontinued. If results are received, the shots are continued until 10 have been given.
By that time a persons bone marrow should be producing the substance in these shots.
At this time, the percentage of people taking the shots who've gotten positive results is 87%. The substance is a combination of "peptides". At this time, I don't really know what exactly a peptide is. There was an explanation of how these shot work that they gave me to read. It was very technical. My understanding is that it stops the chain reaction of events that occur in all allergic reactions. Antihistamines only work at the very end of these chain reactions & do nothing of any long term benefit.
According to my interpretation of this information, an allergen causes the production of IG-E (immunoglobulin-E) which is produced in great quantities whenever an allergen is detected. IG-E then plugs into mast cells which then dump out inflammation causing prostaglandins, histamine, along with seratonin. This then leads to more inflammation, more IG-E release & more & more things causing allergic reactions. More foods, more inhalants, & probably more energy frequencies that irritate already inflamed mucous membranes in the lungs, nose, & gut.
This is just my interpretation from what I've read & what I've experienced so far taking these shots.
The shots are taken in a series. After the first shot, another is given a week later. The next is given after another 3 weeks & from then on they are given monthly until 10 have been given.
I was told that I might not notice anything until after the second shot. I may be an exception but I could begin to notice a definite reduction after only an hour. I'd had to drive 3 hours on the Interstate to get the shot then sat in the doctors office for a while under flourescent lights. I barely knew where I was at with the terrific brain fog at that time. I ached all over, my feet were hot & numb, my gut was boiling & burning, my hands were shaking, my blood pressure & pulse were way up.
After receiving the shot in the ass, boy did that hurt, I began driving back. After about an hour my brain fog & fullness in the head began to diminish, as well as the aching, burning in my feet & other symptoms. The next day I woke up for the first time in years feeling great. I felt refreshed, happy & felt Absolutely no electrical sensitivity in all the places I'd always felt it & that's the way its stayed for the last 3 weeks. I had my second shot a week ago & will have the next in 2 weeks from now.
I had decided not to mention anything about this here on the eSens group until enough time had gone by that I was pretty sure this wasn't just some fluke or placebo effect or something. It's my luck of course that something could still go wrong of course but at this time, I'm very optomistic.
For anyone that wants to look into this, the only contact I can give you is my doctor. He would know if there are other doctors in the US doing this yet. I do know that this is something that can't just be shipped to your regular doctor so he can give you the shot. Any doctor in this program has to go to Toronto, Ontario to receive instruction in administering this before he can give it.
My doctors name is Terry Chappell, MD. His clinic is the Celebration of Health Center in Bluffton, Ohio which is about 50 miles south of Toledo. His phone is 419-358-4627.

John M.

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This injection John received contained "peptides". This
reminded me of a mercury chelation supplement "PCA-Rx".
The "P" in this stands for "peptide". I remember
that Glenn was interested in this supplement at
one time. Did you try it, Glenn? Has anyone?

Here's a website which sells it (a bottle costs $125):

http://www.awakennutrition.com/more.html

Marc

Thanks Marc, would I take 1/4 of a spoon too? Or take the full
amount?...Debbie



--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:

> Thanks Marc, would I take 1/4 of a spoon too? Or take the full
> amount?...Debbie

Ideally, you would find the amount which makes you feel the
best. At first, you need to be careful that you don't have
a bad reaction to it, so I'd say that 1/4 of a scoop would
be a good "test" dosage. Then you could later ramp up to
larger doses if you feel that the 1/4 scoop isn't doing much,
or do multiple 1/4 scoops throughout the day.

When I first took this supplement, I started out at an
equivalent of a 1/2 scoop, then ramped up to about 2
scoops per day, then eventually ramped down to 1/4 scoop.
So even my dosage varied quite a bit depending on where
I was in my recovery.

Marc

David,
I'll call on Monday & see if I can learn what the contact information is in Toronto. I'll let you know what I find out & please let me know what youcan find.

John M.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Fancy
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: The Magic Bullet!!!



Hi, I live 90 minutes from Toronto. Could we make a concerted
effort to find out who Terry Chappell MD got his training from? I
can then go into TO and, with help of doctor fiends there, find out
as much about this process as possible from the people who do
the training. I'm going to call Terry's office now and see if I can
get the name of the centre. John, since you're a patient of his,
you migth also be able to get this information quickly. Do you
know when you might be chatting with him next? If anyone needs
a place to stay near Toronto you're welcome to visit with me.

David


--- In [hidden email], "john" <runicm@1...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I think after all these years of searching, spending vast
amounts of money, suffering the tortures of the damned for
uncounted years I've found the ultimate solution to my electrical
sensitivity, leaky gut, food allergies, chemical allergies,
depression, i.e. the whole ugly package.
> I realize what I've just said sounds like total absolute bullshit
so let me explain.
> First of all, let me state that I've been totally absolutely free of
all electrical sensitivities for the past 3 weeks that have plagued
me continously for 24 years.
> What caused this miracle? Two weeks ago I took the first
shot in a series of shots from my MD that's been instrumental in
keeping me alive for the past 10 years.
> On my previous visit, he told me that there was something
totally new that they were importing from Czechoslovakia that
had shown miraculous results in reversing severe health
problems caused by allergies including food allergies leading to
leaky gut among other things. I said that along with the leaky gut,
my electrical sensitivities were making my life a total hell
especially after undergoing a series of chelations to get rid of
heavy metals. He said that it was his opinion that electrical
sensitivity was caused by the same cascade of events that lead
to all allergies. He said that in his opinion, though the allergen
was in a class entirely different than anything now considered to
be responsible for allergic reactions, that he believed it operated
by the same process & might well respond to this therapy also.
> To tell you the truth, I had no great expectations for this. This
is about the thousanth thing I've tried over the years & there was
no reason to expect that this would produce any real results of
any consequence.
> They had to send for the shots, which are shipped from
eastern europe to Great Britton to Canada to the US. It took a
month for the first three shots to get here. They give a minimum
of three shots to determine if the person is receiving any benefit.
If after 3 shots no improvement is observed, the shots are
discontinued. If results are received, the shots are continued
until 10 have been given.
> By that time a persons bone marrow should be producing the
substance in these shots.
> At this time, the percentage of people taking the shots who've
gotten positive results is 87%. The substance is a combination
of "peptides". At this time, I don't really know what exactly a
peptide is. There was an explanation of how these shot work that
they gave me to read. It was very technical. My understanding is
that it stops the chain reaction of events that occur in all allergic
reactions. Antihistamines only work at the very end of these
chain reactions & do nothing of any long term benefit.
> According to my interpretation of this information, an allergen  
causes the production of IG-E (immunoglobulin-E) which is
produced in great quantities whenever an allergen is detected.
IG-E then plugs into mast cells which then dump out
inflammation causing prostaglandins, histamine, along with
seratonin. This then leads to more inflammation, more IG-E
release & more & more things causing allergic reactions. More
foods, more inhalants, & probably more energy frequencies that
irritate already inflamed mucous membranes in the lungs, nose,
& gut.
> This is just my interpretation from what I've read & what I've
experienced so far taking these shots.
> The shots are taken in a series. After the first shot, another is
given a week later. The next is given after another 3 weeks &
from then on they are given monthly until 10 have been given.
> I was told that I might not notice anything until after the
second shot. I may be an exception but I could begin to notice a
definite reduction after only an hour. I'd had to drive 3 hours on
the Interstate to get the shot then sat in the doctors office for a
while under flourescent lights. I barely knew where I was at with
the terrific brain fog at that time. I ached all over, my feet were hot
& numb, my gut was boiling & burning, my hands were shaking,
my blood pressure & pulse were way up.
> After receiving the shot in the ass, boy did that hurt, I began
driving back. After about an hour my brain fog & fullness in the
head began to diminish, as well as the aching, burning in my
feet & other symptoms. The next day I woke up for the first time in
years feeling great. I felt refreshed, happy & felt Absolutely no
electrical sensitivity in all the places I'd always felt it & that's the
way its stayed for the last 3 weeks. I had my second shot a week
ago & will have the next in 2 weeks from now.
> I had decided not to mention anything about this here on the
eSens group until enough time had gone by that I was pretty
sure this wasn't just some fluke or placebo effect or something.
It's my luck of course that something could still go wrong of
course but at this time, I'm very optomistic.
> For anyone that wants to look into this, the only contact I can
give you is my doctor. He would know if there are other doctors in
the US doing this yet. I do know that this is something that can't
just be shipped to your regular doctor so he can give you the
shot. Any doctor in this program has to go to Toronto, Ontario to
receive instruction in administering this before he can give it.
> My doctors name is Terry Chappell, MD. His clinic is the
Celebration of Health Center in Bluffton, Ohio which is about 50
miles south of Toledo. His phone is 419-358-4627.
>
> John M.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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I was going to test PCA-Rx but then learned that it didn't work as
advertised. They claim that it removes heavy metal and completely
encapsulates mercury so it can safely get out of system. But some people
who have tested it said they still experienced free mercury poisoning their
bodies. So I chose other chelators.

Glenn

I don't know who you are or what your talking about a fake heart attack? You've got me mixed up with someone else. I don't know what your talking about period. I don't know what kind of wierd shit you're into & I don't want to know. If you have something to say, speak English & limit yourself to ESand don't be verbally abusive. Try and get your shit together or get help.

John M.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ellen Hellingwerf
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] The Magic Bullet!!! John you must be in seventh* heaven


Hi John,

I think I congratulated you on your fake heartattack some weeks ago??!! Were you already on your bullit ride then?? Here is my take:

Dunno could quote the bible, or other scriptures, shrek, wizard of OZ or what not. Go with David Yarrow:

"Ancient tradition explains when pwin Serpents twined about our spine (S=serpent+ pine (ie pineal gland, wondered why one of the energy healers gave me a pine cone) stand on their tails to feed their neuro-nectar to Eagle, they unite into winged serpent:

The Dragon

Then enlightenment's blue fire is released through our nervous system. Wetranscend the physical/PHI-cycle world to achieve Divine Awareness.

Tree of peace and caduseus discribe in different imagery from different cultures the same Hueman Nature. They are archetypal images- transcendinglanguage and culture to express a deeper unity of biology and spirit. From reptile to hue-man"


Sure the angels are rejoicing and welcoming you. Hope those brave ones here will understand that we caan beat this. Free from these change, slaying that dragon.

Feel the sheckels move out very quick in the last and soon will join you up there. One and a half year, now but enough.

You are Free . be sure you took more than 6 years to get there, thousands, but as there was no return when the going got touch and you had to pass through the two scary levels, there is no return now. You are truely free, rejoice!!! Once you reach 7th you cannot be hurt, the possiblities are infinite, this is the start of LIFE.

One by one we reach




john <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,
I think after all these years of searching, spending vast amounts of money, suffering the tortures of the damned for uncounted years I've found the ultimate solution to my electrical sensitivity, leaky gut, food allergies, chemical allergies, depression, i.e. the whole ugly package.
I realize what I've just said sounds like total absolute bullshit so let me explain.
First of all, let me state that I've been totally absolutely free of all electrical sensitivities for the past 3 weeks that have plagued me continously for 24 years.
What caused this miracle? Two weeks ago I took the first shot in a series of shots from my MD that's been instrumental in keeping me alive for the past 10 years.
On my previous visit, he told me that there was something totally new that they were importing from Czechoslovakia that had shown miraculous results in reversing severe health problems caused by allergies including food allergies leading to leaky gut among other things. I said that along with the leaky gut, my electrical sensitivities were making my life a total hell especially after undergoing a series of chelations to get rid of heavy metals. He said that it was his opinion that electrical sensitivity was caused by the same cascade of events that lead to all allergies. He said that in his opinion, though the allergen was in a class entirely different than anything now considered to be responsible for allergic reactions, that he believed it operated by the same process & might well respond to this therapy also.
To tell you the truth, I had no great expectations for this. This is about the thousanth thing I've tried over the years & there was no reason toexpect that this would produce any real results of any consequence.
They had to send for the shots, which are shipped from eastern europe to Great Britton to Canada to the US. It took a month for the first three shots to get here. They give a minimum of three shots to determine if the person is receiving any benefit. If after 3 shots no improvement is observed,the shots are discontinued. If results are received, the shots are continued until 10 have been given.
By that time a persons bone marrow should be producing the substance in these shots.
At this time, the percentage of people taking the shots who've gotten positive results is 87%. The substance is a combination of "peptides". At this time, I don't really know what exactly a peptide is. There was an explanation of how these shot work that they gave me to read. It was very technical. My understanding is that it stops the chain reaction of events that occur in all allergic reactions. Antihistamines only work at the very end of these chain reactions & do nothing of any long term benefit.
According to my interpretation of this information, an allergen causes the production of IG-E (immunoglobulin-E) which is produced in great quantities whenever an allergen is detected. IG-E then plugs into mast cells which then dump out inflammation causing prostaglandins, histamine, along with seratonin. This then leads to more inflammation, more IG-E release & more& more things causing allergic reactions. More foods, more inhalants, & probably more energy frequencies that irritate already inflamed mucous membranes in the lungs, nose, & gut.
This is just my interpretation from what I've read & what I've experienced so far taking these shots.
The shots are taken in a series. After the first shot, another is given a week later. The next is given after another 3 weeks & from then on theyare given monthly until 10 have been given.
I was told that I might not notice anything until after the second shot. I may be an exception but I could begin to notice a definite reduction after only an hour. I'd had to drive 3 hours on the Interstate to get the shot then sat in the doctors office for a while under flourescent lights. I barely knew where I was at with the terrific brain fog at that time. I achedall over, my feet were hot & numb, my gut was boiling & burning, my hands were shaking, my blood pressure & pulse were way up.
After receiving the shot in the ass, boy did that hurt, I began driving back. After about an hour my brain fog & fullness in the head began to diminish, as well as the aching, burning in my feet & other symptoms. The next day I woke up for the first time in years feeling great. I felt refreshed, happy & felt Absolutely no electrical sensitivity in all the places I'd always felt it & that's the way its stayed for the last 3 weeks. I had my second shot a week ago & will have the next in 2 weeks from now.
I had decided not to mention anything about this here on the eSens group until enough time had gone by that I was pretty sure this wasn't just some fluke or placebo effect or something. It's my luck of course that something could still go wrong of course but at this time, I'm very optomistic.
For anyone that wants to look into this, the only contact I can give you is my doctor. He would know if there are other doctors in the US doing this yet. I do know that this is something that can't just be shipped to your regular doctor so he can give you the shot. Any doctor in this program has to go to Toronto, Ontario to receive instruction in administering this before he can give it.
My doctors name is Terry Chappell, MD. His clinic is the Celebration of Health Center in Bluffton, Ohio which is about 50 miles south of Toledo. His phone is 419-358-4627.

John M.

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Glenn,
I Still want to find out exactly what the definition of a peptide is. I'mgoing to do a search to see what I can find.
The injections I'm taking sound pretty different. It's not a chelator. Iknow that. It's supposed to affect the way the immune system works. I'll try to find out more.

P.S. Are you the moderator? Did you see the post that came in from Ellen Hellingwerf? That person scares me. Can you check out anything else like thatthat comes in please. Thanks.

John M.  
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] peptides


I was going to test PCA-Rx but then learned that it didn't work as
advertised. They claim that it removes heavy metal and completely
encapsulates mercury so it can safely get out of system. But some people
who have tested it said they still experienced free mercury poisoning their
bodies. So I chose other chelators.

Glenn




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This is great, John. I called the doctor but the clinic was closed.
When we find out the location of the Toronto clinic I'll do some
onsite research, see if I can get any documentation about this,
turn it into a PDF, put it on the list database, and report any other
developments, clues, etc.

Have a great weekend, and once again: so happy to hear that
you're feeling so much better.

Best for now
David

--- In [hidden email], "john" <runicm@1...> wrote:
> David,
> I'll call on Monday & see if I can learn what the contact
information is in Toronto. I'll let you know what I find out & please
let me know what you can find.
>

Ellen ,
After reading & rereading your message a number of times & looking at your other posts, I think I understand now what you're saying.
Initially, I thought you were accusing me of posting on some other groupor site about a made up story about a heart attack & I misread "bullit as bullshit".
After looking at other posts you had written in this group, I saw one where a Peter someone had explained about thinking he had had a heart attack.
I believe I understand now what you're implying with this quote by DavidYarrow. As you can see from my hostile response when I felt I was being attacked, I haven't by any means reached the spiritual level that you allude to.
I'm scared of anything having to do with witchcraft & references to winged serpents wrapping around my backbone & such scared me.
Again, I apologize. I misunderstood what you were saying .It was I that was abusive & out of line..

John M..

----- Original Message -----
From: john
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] The Magic Bullet!!! John you must be in seventh* heaven


I don't know who you are or what your talking about a fake heart attack? You've got me mixed up with someone else. I don't know what your talking about period. I don't know what kind of wierd shit you're into & I don't wantto know. If you have something to say, speak English & limit yourself to ES and don't be verbally abusive. Try and get your shit together or get help.

John M.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ellen Hellingwerf
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] The Magic Bullet!!! John you must be in seventh* heaven


Hi John,

I think I congratulated you on your fake heartattack some weeks ago??!! Were you already on your bullit ride then?? Here is my take:

Dunno could quote the bible, or other scriptures, shrek, wizard of OZ or what not. Go with David Yarrow:

"Ancient tradition explains when pwin Serpents twined about our spine (S=serpent+ pine (ie pineal gland, wondered why one of the energy healers gave me a pine cone) stand on their tails to feed their neuro-nectar to Eagle, they unite into winged serpent:

The Dragon

Then enlightenment's blue fire is released through our nervous system. We transcend the physical/PHI-cycle world to achieve Divine Awareness.

Tree of peace and caduseus discribe in different imagery from differentcultures the same Hueman Nature. They are archetypal images- transcendinglanguage and culture to express a deeper unity of biology and spirit. From reptile to hue-man"


Sure the angels are rejoicing and welcoming you. Hope those brave ones here will understand that we caan beat this. Free from these change, slaying that dragon.

Feel the sheckels move out very quick in the last and soon will join you up there. One and a half year, now but enough.

You are Free . be sure you took more than 6 years to get there, thousands, but as there was no return when the going got touch and you had to passthrough the two scary levels, there is no return now. You are truely free,rejoice!!! Once you reach 7th you cannot be hurt, the possiblities are infinite, this is the start of LIFE.

One by one we reach




john <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,
I think after all these years of searching, spending vast amounts ofmoney, suffering the tortures of the damned for uncounted years I've foundthe ultimate solution to my electrical sensitivity, leaky gut, food allergies, chemical allergies, depression, i.e. the whole ugly package.
I realize what I've just said sounds like total absolute bullshit solet me explain.
First of all, let me state that I've been totally absolutely free ofall electrical sensitivities for the past 3 weeks that have plagued me continously for 24 years.
What caused this miracle? Two weeks ago I took the first shot in a series of shots from my MD that's been instrumental in keeping me alive for the past 10 years.
On my previous visit, he told me that there was something totally newthat they were importing from Czechoslovakia that had shown miraculous results in reversing severe health problems caused by allergies including foodallergies leading to leaky gut among other things. I said that along with the leaky gut, my electrical sensitivities were making my life a total hellespecially after undergoing a series of chelations to get rid of heavy metals. He said that it was his opinion that electrical sensitivity was causedby the same cascade of events that lead to all allergies. He said that in his opinion, though the allergen was in a class entirely different than anything now considered to be responsible for allergic reactions, that he believed it operated by the same process & might well respond to this therapy also.
To tell you the truth, I had no great expectations for this. This isabout the thousanth thing I've tried over the years & there was no reason to expect that this would produce any real results of any consequence.
They had to send for the shots, which are shipped from eastern europe to Great Britton to Canada to the US. It took a month for the first threeshots to get here. They give a minimum of three shots to determine if the person is receiving any benefit. If after 3 shots no improvement is observed, the shots are discontinued. If results are received, the shots are continued until 10 have been given.
By that time a persons bone marrow should be producing the substance inthese shots.
At this time, the percentage of people taking the shots who've gotten positive results is 87%. The substance is a combination of "peptides". Atthis time, I don't really know what exactly a peptide is. There was an explanation of how these shot work that they gave me to read. It was very technical. My understanding is that it stops the chain reaction of events that occur in all allergic reactions. Antihistamines only work at the very end of these chain reactions & do nothing of any long term benefit.
According to my interpretation of this information, an allergen causes the production of IG-E (immunoglobulin-E) which is produced in great quantities whenever an allergen is detected. IG-E then plugs into mast cells which then dump out inflammation causing prostaglandins, histamine, along with seratonin. This then leads to more inflammation, more IG-E release & more & more things causing allergic reactions. More foods, more inhalants, & probably more energy frequencies that irritate already inflamed mucous membranes in the lungs, nose, & gut.
This is just my interpretation from what I've read & what I've experienced so far taking these shots.
The shots are taken in a series. After the first shot, another is given a week later. The next is given after another 3 weeks & from then on they are given monthly until 10 have been given.
I was told that I might not notice anything until after the second shot. I may be an exception but I could begin to notice a definite reductionafter only an hour. I'd had to drive 3 hours on the Interstate to get the shot then sat in the doctors office for a while under flourescent lights. Ibarely knew where I was at with the terrific brain fog at that time. I ached all over, my feet were hot & numb, my gut was boiling & burning, my hands were shaking, my blood pressure & pulse were way up.
After receiving the shot in the ass, boy did that hurt, I began driving back. After about an hour my brain fog & fullness in the head began to diminish, as well as the aching, burning in my feet & other symptoms. The next day I woke up for the first time in years feeling great. I felt refreshed, happy & felt Absolutely no electrical sensitivity in all the places I'dalways felt it & that's the way its stayed for the last 3 weeks. I had my second shot a week ago & will have the next in 2 weeks from now.
I had decided not to mention anything about this here on the eSens group until enough time had gone by that I was pretty sure this wasn't just some fluke or placebo effect or something. It's my luck of course that something could still go wrong of course but at this time, I'm very optomistic.
For anyone that wants to look into this, the only contact I can giveyou is my doctor. He would know if there are other doctors in the US doingthis yet. I do know that this is something that can't just be shipped to your regular doctor so he can give you the shot. Any doctor in this program has to go to Toronto, Ontario to receive instruction in administering this before he can give it.
My doctors name is Terry Chappell, MD. His clinic is the Celebrationof Health Center in Bluffton, Ohio which is about 50 miles south of Toledo. His phone is 419-358-4627.

John M.

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> The injections I'm taking sound pretty different. It's not a chelator.
> I know that. It's supposed to affect the way the immune system works.

PCA-Rx is also supposed to affect the way the immune system works,
and is primarily "good bacteria", so I don't see any inconsistencies
yet.

> P.S. Are you the moderator? Did you see the post that came in from
> Ellen Hellingwerf? That person scares me.

Heh, my wife (the yoga teacher) explained to me that this was based on
Kundalini. It didn't scare her...

Oh, and *I* am the moderator. It's hard to say where I should
draw the line on what is acceptable and what is not... although perhaps
Ellen, you should tone down your posts a bit... :-)

Marc

Glenn Coleman wrote:
> I was going to test PCA-Rx but then learned that it didn't work as
> advertised. They claim that it removes heavy metal and completely
> encapsulates mercury so it can safely get out of system. But some people
> who have tested it said they still experienced free mercury poisoning their
> bodies. So I chose other chelators.

Well, it appears that more than one chelator has gone by the name
"PCA", so there is a lot of confusion in general about PCA-Rx:

http://ssl.maxamlabs.com/MAXAM_ASP_CMS_Templates_STD_HTML.asp?PageINDX=18

Considering this recent peptide/ES news, I'm gonna give it a try...
will report later...

Marc

What kind of reaction are you speaking of like die-off? thanks again
Deb



--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
> > Thanks Marc, would I take 1/4 of a spoon too? Or take the full
> > amount?...Debbie
>
>

Hi John I just read this post tonight...I too use to have the IBS or
the leaky gut syndrome..the doctor I have been blessed with tested
my blood for systemic yeast and put me on nystatin and Zyflucan, and
tested my blood and found all the foods that I was having allergies
to and said to stay away from them for six months...I am in Grand
Rapids Michigan. If you don't get good results from what you are
doing now this doc I have up here is into all kinds of alternative
medicine....Debbie



--- In [hidden email], "john" <runicm@1...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I think after all these years of searching, spending vast
amounts of money, suffering the tortures of the damned for uncounted
years I've found the ultimate solution to my electrical sensitivity,
leaky gut, food allergies, chemical allergies, depression, i.e. the

> What kind of reaction are you speaking of like die-off? thanks again

Yes, nausea or die-off... some of the viruses, bacteria, yeast, can't
stand the increase in pH, so they die off. In such cases, it's best
to back off on dosage.

Also, when I take too much I sometimes get dehydrated...rather odd
for a supplement that's supposed to help rehydrate you!

Marc

>Considering this recent peptide/ES news, I'm gonna give it a try...
>will report later...

I just recalled that the company that produces the glutathione supplement
HMS-90 also has a peptide product. I have a bottle at home which I never
tried, so will give it a try. It is also inexpensive:

http://www.immunotec.com/biohealth/page.asp?intNodeID=2487


Glenn

It might have to be a very specific peptide to give the "magic bullet" effect that John has reported. There are lots of different peptides, and lots of them are in our gut already. They are formed from chains of amino acids, which are the building blocks for proteins, and are one of the main digestive products in our gut. So, in one sense, nothing that startling about them!

Supplements providing peptides are likely to be trying to correct nutritional deficiencies or problems in digestion/absorption (by providing what we would normally get from digested protein in a form that's already broken down and may be easier for the body to take in).

The preparation supplied to John sounds as if it is intended to work on a completely different principle - to stop at source all the antibodies triggering uncontrollable allergic reactions that cause us problems. Probably that means a very specific mix of particular peptides, so it's unlikely that standard supplements would have anything like the same mix.

Will be very interesting to hear of John's future experience and that of other people if they try this! It would be a great idea if it worked. It might not work the same for everyone, as everyone's individual mix of symptoms, causes and sensitivities seems to be a bit different.

Ian


----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Coleman
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] peptides


>Considering this recent peptide/ES news, I'm gonna give it a try...
>will report later...

I just recalled that the company that produces the glutathione supplement
HMS-90 also has a peptide product. I have a bottle at home which I never
tried, so will give it a try. It is also inexpensive:

http://www.immunotec.com/biohealth/page.asp?intNodeID=2487


Glenn



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Hi not that I take anything personally, but maybe I have tried to open enough minds.
 
Just wanted to say people should consider this might be kundalini related and let go of the believe this condition is here tio stay; you can get through it.
 
This is no nothing scary, and just by being a good person you can reach these levels.
 
Moderator could block me if he pleases, has been shutting down even down toearth suggestions, soon not gonna qualify as ES anywhooose. Liked this group because you seemed very down to earth spiritual to me. Compliment.
 
Toodles
 
Love and Light

Ellen Hellingwerf <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi John,

I think I congratulated you on your fake heartattack some weeks ago??!! Were you already on your bullit ride then?? Here is my take:

Dunno could quote the bible, or other scriptures, shrek, wizard of OZ or what not. Go with David Yarrow:

"Ancient tradition explains when pwin Serpents twined about our spine (S=serpent+ pine (ie pineal gland, wondered why one of the energy healers gaveme a pine cone) stand on their tails to feed their neuro-nectar to Eagle, they unite into winged serpent:

The Dragon

Then enlightenment's blue fire is released through our nervous system. We transcend the physical/PHI-cycle world to achieve Divine Awareness.

Tree of peace and caduseus discribe in different imagery from different cultures the same Hueman Nature. They are archetypal images- transcendinglanguage and culture to express a deeper unity of biology and spirit. From reptile to hue-man"


Sure the angels are rejoicing and welcoming you. Hope those brave ones herewill understand that we caan beat this. Free from these change, slaying that dragon.

Feel the sheckels move out very quick in the last and soon will join you upthere. One and a half year, now but enough.

You are Free . be sure you took more than 6 years to get there, thousands, but as there was no return when the going got touch and you had to pass through the two scary levels, there is no return now. You are truely free, rejoice!!! Once you reach 7th you cannot be hurt, the possiblities are infinite, this is the start of LIFE.

One by one we reach




john <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,
I think after all these years of searching, spending vast amounts of money, suffering the tortures of the damned for uncounted years I've found theultimate solution to my electrical sensitivity, leaky gut, food allergies,chemical allergies, depression, i.e. the whole ugly package.
I realize what I've just said sounds like total absolute bullshit so letme explain.
First of all, let me state that I've been totally absolutely free of allelectrical sensitivities for the past 3 weeks that have plagued me continously for 24 years.
What caused this miracle? Two weeks ago I took the first shot in a series of shots from my MD that's been instrumental in keeping me alive for the past 10 years.
On my previous visit, he told me that there was something totally new that they were importing from Czechoslovakia that had shown miraculous resultsin reversing severe health problems caused by allergies including food allergies leading to leaky gut among other things. I said that along with the leaky gut, my electrical sensitivities were making my life a total hell especially after undergoing a series of chelations to get rid of heavy metals.He said that it was his opinion that electrical sensitivity was caused by the same cascade of events that lead to all allergies. He said that in his opinion, though the allergen was in a class entirely different than anything now considered to be responsible for allergic reactions, that he believedit operated by the same process & might well respond to this therapy also.
To tell you the truth, I had no great expectations for this. This is about the thousanth thing I've tried over the years & there was no reason to expect that this would produce any real results of any consequence.
They had to send for the shots, which are shipped from eastern europe toGreat Britton to Canada to the US. It took a month for the first three shots to get here. They give a minimum of three shots to determine if the person is receiving any benefit. If after 3 shots no improvement is observed, the shots are discontinued. If results are received, the shots are continueduntil 10 have been given.
By that time a persons bone marrow should be producing the substance in these shots.
At this time, the percentage of people taking the shots who've gotten positive results is 87%. The substance is a combination of "peptides". At this time, I don't really know what exactly a peptide is. There was an explanation of how these shot work that they gave me to read. It was very technical. My understanding is that it stops the chain reaction of events that occur in all allergic reactions. Antihistamines only work at the very end of these chain reactions & do nothing of any long term benefit.
According to my interpretation of this information, an allergen causes the production of IG-E (immunoglobulin-E) which is produced in great quantities whenever an allergen is detected. IG-E then plugs into mast cells which then dump out inflammation causing prostaglandins, histamine, along with seratonin. This then leads to more inflammation, more IG-E release & more &more things causing allergic reactions. More foods, more inhalants, & probably more energy frequencies that irritate already inflamed mucous membranes in the lungs, nose, & gut.
This is just my interpretation from what I've read & what I've experienced so far taking these shots.
The shots are taken in a series. After the first shot, another is given a week later. The next is given after another 3 weeks & from then on they are given monthly until 10 have been given.
I was told that I might not notice anything until after the second shot.I may be an exception but I could begin to notice a definite reduction after only an hour. I'd had to drive 3 hours on the Interstate to get the shotthen sat in the doctors office for a while under flourescent lights. I barely knew where I was at with the terrific brain fog at that time. I ached all over, my feet were hot & numb, my gut was boiling & burning, my hands were shaking, my blood pressure & pulse were way up.
After receiving the shot in the ass, boy did that hurt, I began driving back. After about an hour my brain fog & fullness in the head began to diminish, as well as the aching, burning in my feet & other symptoms. The next day I woke up for the first time in years feeling great. I felt refreshed, happy & felt Absolutely no electrical sensitivity in all the places I'd always felt it & that's the way its stayed for the last 3 weeks. I had my second shot a week ago & will have the next in 2 weeks from now.
I had decided not to mention anything about this here on the eSens groupuntil enough time had gone by that I was pretty sure this wasn't just somefluke or placebo effect or something. It's my luck of course that something could still go wrong of course but at this time, I'm very optomistic.
For anyone that wants to look into this, the only contact I can give youis my doctor. He would know if there are other doctors in the US doing this yet. I do know that this is something that can't just be shipped to your regular doctor so he can give you the shot. Any doctor in this program has to go to Toronto, Ontario to receive instruction in administering this before he can give it.
My doctors name is Terry Chappell, MD. His clinic is the Celebration of Health Center in Bluffton, Ohio which is about 50 miles south of Toledo. His phone is 419-358-4627.

John M.

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You mean to say we should keep thinking in a way that keeps us enslaved??
 
About me being a witch: Most of us here would have been burned on the stakes. I guess at this level I would be considered one, but I do not practise wicca. I am more of a truth-seeker than a power seeker.
 
That said a good witch could help with what they would call unentaglement. For most with heavy symptoms it could take years, but they would recommend herbs, roots and hot baths.
 
Another approach I would like to suggest: Take a healing holiday in India. The Ayurvedic hospitals could prescribe you the diet most benificial to you, give you daily massage and pack you in the herbs they select for you, to let you sweat out the toxins. In addition they will teach you meditation and yoga (do not even think of the guru as a which, he will pick up your vibe). A 21 day trip to an ayurvedic spa will cost you less than you think and free you up quite a bit.
 
On the more spiritual board I feel you would like to send me to those that call themselves starchildren, kundalites, adult indigos going through the transition to the crystal vibration give similar suggestions for healing asthe ones over here. So use your OM-pendant and predent the white light is not spiritual, it will get you home. Enlightenment does not care how you reach it!!
 
Had been asking the 7th ray for healing for the people on the board, but will leave these things up to yourselves now. Sure he will have left those who do not wanna heal alone. I realise everyone will get there when they are ready.
 
Thanks John. I forgive myself for the assumtion I made.
 
The only thing scares me marc is the *bang* this will leave my system with.And I know it will happen soon, but only when I am ready. Guess you guys bought me a week, no my reaction on yours bought me that, fear bought me some extra enslavement time.
 
Choose Love, Think with your Hearts
 
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The injections I'm taking sound pretty different. It's not a chelator.
> I know that. It's supposed to affect the way the immune system works.

PCA-Rx is also supposed to affect the way the immune system works,
and is primarily "good bacteria", so I don't see any inconsistencies
yet.

> P.S. Are you the moderator? Did you see the post that came in from
> Ellen Hellingwerf? That person scares me.

Heh, my wife (the yoga teacher) explained to me that this was based on
Kundalini. It didn't scare her...

Oh, and *I* am the moderator. It's hard to say where I should
draw the line on what is acceptable and what is not... although perhaps
Ellen, you should tone down your posts a bit... :-)

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