Hi eSens group,
I joined this group after watching a video today about Electrosensitivity and Diabetes<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcM6RZwyfA&feature=player_embedded>. I know that I have blood sugar issues because my holistic health practitioners told me. I haven't been officially diagnosed with diabetes or pre-diabetes; I highly mistrust the western/allopathic medical industry, so a western diagnosis won't be helpful to me. I'm not sure yet whether electrosensitivity is a big factor me, but I do spend a LOT of time on the computer, and I notice that I'm generally happier and more energetic when I spend less time on the computer. My closest friend definitely has electrosensitivity and multiple health issues. Whenever she's near a computer or cell phone or radio tower for more than 5 minutes, her knuckles and other joints swell up visibly. She thinks that she has heavy metal poisoning from dental work. I'm on here to get more information. ~Amie Oakland California ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: eSens Moderator <[hidden email]> Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM Subject: Yahoo! Groups: Welcome to eSens. Visit today! To: [hidden email] Hello, Welcome to the Yahoo discussion group "eSens"! If you'd like, please introduce yourself to the group, possibly including information about the degree of your sensitivity, when did it start, and what you've tried that has and has not helped. The archives of past discussions may be found at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens To send a message to the group, send an email to [hidden email] If you ever wish to unsubscribe from the group, send an email to: [hidden email] Thanks, Marc Martin, [hidden email] eSens moderator Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Amie,
Regarding the blood sugar problem, I have read 2 accounts about that from: http://www.emrpolicy.org/news/headlines/emrpi_comment_gn_09_51_fcc_09_31\ .pdf I saved the original doc that used to be on their website from which the above summary doc was derived. * Mrs. Schou's glucose sugar varied from 120 in low conditions to 160 in higher electrical environments. * Mr. Kleiber mentioned normal blood sugar 100-120 jumping to over 300 from a neighbor's cell phone, not helped by insulin, but once the neighbor left, it dropped to 30. Both powerline EMF and wireless EMF may affect blood sugar, and possibly wireless EMF moreso. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to recommend any blood sugar monitoring equipment. Regarding your computer use, I think a computer can be used comfortably if following some general guidelines. First off, I would recommend an LCD flat panel monitor (esp. one that is TCO compliant) over a CRT monitor to reduce powerline magnetic fields. Ideally .29 mm dot pitch or higher and configured to screen refresh rate of 75 Hz for comfort on the eyes. I would also recommend using a USB keyboard and USB mouse to keep some distance from laptops, which also have some power line EMF. Keep the power surge protectors about a meter or more away. Prefer a wired connection over Wi-Fi. Instead of a Wi-Fi router, you can get a wired router. To turn off wi-fi on your laptop, you can check this link for more info: http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=214308 You can get some more ideas on precautionary measures here: http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php --- In [hidden email], Amie Kim <MsAmieKim@...> wrote: > > Hi eSens group, > > I joined this group after watching a video today about Electrosensitivity and > Diabetes<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcM6RZwyfA&feature=player_embed\ ded>. > I know that I have blood sugar issues because my holistic health > practitioners told me. I haven't been officially diagnosed with diabetes or > pre-diabetes; I highly mistrust the western/allopathic medical industry, so > a western diagnosis won't be helpful to me. I'm not sure yet whether > electrosensitivity is a big factor me, but I do spend a LOT of time on the > computer, and I notice that I'm generally happier and more energetic when I > spend less time on the computer. > > My closest friend definitely has electrosensitivity and multiple health > issues. Whenever she's near a computer or cell phone or radio tower for more > than 5 minutes, her knuckles and other joints swell up visibly. She thinks > that she has heavy metal poisoning from dental work. > > I'm on here to get more information. > > ~Amie > Oakland California > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: eSens Moderator [hidden email] > Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM > Subject: Yahoo! Groups: Welcome to eSens. Visit today! > To: MsAmieKim@... > > > > Hello, > > Welcome to the Yahoo discussion group "eSens"! If you'd like, please > introduce yourself to the group, possibly including information about > degree of your sensitivity, when did it start, and what you've tried that > has and has not helped. > > The archives of past discussions may be found at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens > > To send a message to the group, send an email to [hidden email] > > If you ever wish to unsubscribe from the group, send an email to: > [hidden email] > > Thanks, > > Marc Martin, marc@... > eSens moderator > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Besides Magda Havas's website, the other website with lots of information on dirty electricity is
http://www.electricalpollution.com Here's another article on dirty electricity from another forum. http://www.gcnlive.com/wp/2010/06/10/new-research-electropollution-can-cause-diabetes/ About the dental poisoning, I do think that is a factor that makes some people more vulnerable to wireless radiation. The metal can create a hot spotin the mouth for the microwaves. Additionally, the microwaves might potentially trigger greater release of mercury. The Swedish book of testimonies, Black on White, tells a lot of stories of people who developed EHS in association with dental appointments. I have gradually had mine replaced to white fillings, but only doing one ortwo at a time having read that some mercury may leak in the process of removal, even if following safety procedures like the rubber dam. |
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Hi Amie
Welcome to the group - I hope you will find stuff on here which is useful to you in your quest to find more about ES etc. Altho I cannot say for certain, and can only relate from my own experience,it is likely that if your friend has metals issues they have probably come from dental amalgam. In my own experience I have metals issues, and am in the process of having my amalgam fillings removed. I curse the day that I ever got amalgam fillings in my mouth knowing what I know now. In my case, the metals have moved into tissues all over the place, but I experience particular problems in myhead and neck to the point where I get significant pain in my head and throat ifI am near wifi or even an I phone, almost as if there are metals in those tissues which are acting as an antenna. My advice would be to do 2 things - 1. search for information online about how to improve liver and bowel function because it is imperative to have them working well to get toxins leaving your body and 2. find a holistic dentist, one who uses the proper protocols for the safe removal of mercury amalgam fillings from teeth which will not cause further harm inthe process, who can remove and replace the mercury with material which is non toxic and bio compatible. I am about a quarter of the way through my replacement dental work and although it has not been problem free, I have noticed a bitof an increase in my energy levels and a reduction in bodily pain which could be due to the removal of the amalgam [or maybe the fact that it is summer and everyone feels better in summer - ask me again in the dead of winter LOL!!]. Even if you are not ES it is good to learn of the dangers which EMFs and radiation and the toxic soup we all live in now pose to the human body in order to try to reduce your exposure as much a possible in order to stay as healthy as you can. Bottom line is man is very inventive and the technology is proliferating at an amazingly speedy rate, but when man was created he wasn't designed to deal with the pollution emitted by all this and the safety and health aspects of it are being overlooked in the name of corporate profits,in the same way that big tobacco pulled the wool over everyone's eyes about the safety of smoking. Best wishes Steph ________________________________ From: Amie Kim <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sat, 28 August, 2010 7:04:42 Subject: [eSens] electrosensitivity, diabetes and dental poisoning Hi eSens group, I joined this group after watching a video today about Electrosensitivity and Diabetes<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcM6RZwyfA&feature=player_embedded>. I know that I have blood sugar issues because my holistic health practitioners told me. I haven't been officially diagnosed with diabetes or pre-diabetes; I highly mistrust the western/allopathic medical industry, so a western diagnosis won't be helpful to me. I'm not sure yet whether electrosensitivity is a big factor me, but I do spend a LOT of time on the computer, and I notice that I'm generally happier and more energetic when I spend less time on the computer. My closest friend definitely has electrosensitivity and multiple health issues. Whenever she's near a computer or cell phone or radio tower for more than 5 minutes, her knuckles and other joints swell up visibly. She thinks that she has heavy metal poisoning from dental work. I'm on here to get more information. ~Amie Oakland California ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: eSens Moderator <[hidden email]> Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM Subject: Yahoo! Groups: Welcome to eSens. Visit today! To: [hidden email] Hello, Welcome to the Yahoo discussion group "eSens"! If you'd like, please introduce yourself to the group, possibly including information about the degree of your sensitivity, when did it start, and what you've tried that has and has not helped. The archives of past discussions may be found at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens To send a message to the group, send an email to [hidden email] If you ever wish to unsubscribe from the group, send an email to: [hidden email] Thanks, Marc Martin, [hidden email] eSens moderator Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Some interesting stuff on raised blood sugar and emfs.
I have Type 1 diabetes and I previously talked about diabetes from the viewpoint of the immune system side of things. Many have speculated here about the potential cause of esens being immune system damage/deficiency, and I just wondered if having an autoimmune disease such as diabetes could be an underlying cause of the electrosensitivity. But I've never heard of Type 3 diabetes, or of the possibility of emfs affecting blood sugars. I've never noticed anything in my sugar control in relation to being in the vicinity ofemfs, but then again I've never looked at the possibility. While emfs causing a type of diabetes may at first seem improbable, it got me thinking about the potential stress caused by emfs to the body and how stress can cause a rise in blood sugars. It has been proven, as mentioned inthe Bioinitiative Report, that emfs cause a stress response from the body.It has been shown in the past that when the body undergoes stressful situations, no matter what kind of situation it is, it often initiates the flight or fight response, which sets off endocrine signals resulting in the release of various hormones which, among other things, increase glucose/sugar in the blood. I wonder if these rises in blood sugar mentioned below is somehow related to this. The following article is a basic look at stress and blood sugars: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=47115 Indeed medical research has looked into the role of anxiety/fear in relation to diabetes and how the continuous release of sugar in response to stressful/fearful situations could overload the pancreas and be a potential causeof diabetes. so if the below articles have any substance, someone with electrosensitivity who doesn't have diabetes may still have a pancreas that isbeing overworked through sugar/glucose relese due to the stresses of the emfs. Just a personal theory --- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@...> wrote: > > Hi Amie, > > Regarding the blood sugar problem, I have read 2 accounts about that > from: > http://www.emrpolicy.org/news/headlines/emrpi_comment_gn_09_51_fcc_09_31\ > .pdf I saved the original doc that used to be on their website from > which the above summary doc was derived. > * Mrs. Schou's glucose sugar varied from 120 in low conditions to 160 in > higher electrical environments. > * Mr. Kleiber mentioned normal blood sugar 100-120 jumping to over 300 > from a neighbor's cell phone, not helped by insulin, but once the > neighbor left, it dropped to 30. > Both powerline EMF and wireless EMF may affect blood sugar, and possibly > wireless EMF moreso. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to recommend > any blood sugar monitoring equipment. > > Regarding your computer use, I think a computer can be used comfortably > if following some general guidelines. First off, I would recommend an > LCD flat panel monitor (esp. one that is TCO compliant) over a CRT > monitor to reduce powerline magnetic fields. Ideally .29 mm dot pitch > or higher and configured to screen refresh rate of 75 Hz for comfort on > the eyes. I would also recommend using a USB keyboard and USB mouse to > keep some distance from laptops, which also have some power line EMF. > Keep the power surge protectors about a meter or more away. > Prefer a wired connection over Wi-Fi. Instead of a Wi-Fi router, you > can get a wired router. To turn off wi-fi on your laptop, you can check > this link for more info: > http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=214308 > > You can get some more ideas on precautionary measures here: > http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php > > > --- In [hidden email], Amie Kim <MsAmieKim@> wrote: > > > > Hi eSens group, > > > > I joined this group after watching a video today about > Electrosensitivity and > > > Diabetes<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcM6RZwyfA&feature=player_embed\ > ded>. > > I know that I have blood sugar issues because my holistic health > > practitioners told me. I haven't been officially diagnosed with > diabetes or > > pre-diabetes; I highly mistrust the western/allopathic medical > industry, so > > a western diagnosis won't be helpful to me. I'm not sure yet whether > > electrosensitivity is a big factor me, but I do spend a LOT of time on > the > > computer, and I notice that I'm generally happier and more energetic > when I > > spend less time on the computer. > > > > My closest friend definitely has electrosensitivity and multiple > health > > issues. Whenever she's near a computer or cell phone or radio tower > for more > > than 5 minutes, her knuckles and other joints swell up visibly. She > thinks > > that she has heavy metal poisoning from dental work. > > > > I'm on here to get more information. > > > > ~Amie > > Oakland California > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: eSens Moderator [hidden email] > > Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM > > Subject: Yahoo! Groups: Welcome to eSens. Visit today! > > To: MsAmieKim@ > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Welcome to the Yahoo discussion group "eSens"! If you'd like, please > > introduce yourself to the group, possibly including information about > the > > degree of your sensitivity, when did it start, and what you've tried > that > > has and has not helped. > > > > The archives of past discussions may be found at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens > > > > To send a message to the group, send an email to [hidden email] > > > > If you ever wish to unsubscribe from the group, send an email to: > > [hidden email] > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marc Martin, marc@ > > eSens moderator > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |
I agree.
Andrew On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:14 PM, seandaly33 wrote: > someone with electrosensitivity who doesn't have diabetes may still > have a pancreas that is being overworked through sugar/glucose > relese due to the stresses of the emfs. |
Could that cause ones urine to smell sweet?
Thanks, Cheryl --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: electrosensitivity, diabetes and dental poisoning To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 9:47 AM I agree. Andrew On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:14 PM, seandaly33 wrote: > someone with electrosensitivity who doesn't have diabetes may still > have a pancreas that is being overworked through sugar/glucose > relese due to the stresses of the emfs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Interesting. I never thought of the connection. Several years ago I
was diagnosed with insulin resistance, cause unknown. Usually this condition happens to people who are overweight and is considered pre-diabetes 2. But I always had a normal weight and the insulin resistance *caused* a giant weight gain. I'm still trying to get that weight off, without much success so far. The time line fits my development of EMS, so it could very well be related. Rixta > Some interesting stuff on raised blood sugar and emfs. > > I have Type 1 diabetes and I previously talked about diabetes from the viewpoint of the immune system side of things. Many have speculated here about the potential cause of esens being immune system damage/deficiency, and I just wondered if having an autoimmune disease such as diabetes could be an underlying cause of the electrosensitivity. But I've never heard of Type 3 diabetes, or of the possibility of emfs affecting blood sugars. I've never noticed anything in my sugar control in relation to being in the vicinity of emfs, but then again I've never looked at the possibility. > > While emfs causing a type of diabetes may at first seem improbable, it got me thinking about the potential stress caused by emfs to the body and how stress can cause a rise in blood sugars. It has been proven, as mentioned in the Bioinitiative Report, that emfs cause a stress response from the body. It has been shown in the past that when the body undergoes stressful situations, no matter what kind of situation it is, it often initiates the flight or fight response, which sets off endocrine signals resulting in the release of various hormones which, among other things, increase glucose/sugar in the blood. I wonder if these rises in blood sugar mentioned below is somehow related to this. The following article is a basic look at stress and blood sugars: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=47115 > > Indeed medical research has looked into the role of anxiety/fear in relation to diabetes and how the continuous release of sugar in response to stressful/fearful situations could overload the pancreas and be a potential cause of diabetes. so if the below articles have any substance, someone with electrosensitivity who doesn't have diabetes may still have a pancreas that is being overworked through sugar/glucose relese due to the stresses of the emfs. > Just a personal theory > > --- In [hidden email], "emraware"<emraware@...> wrote: >> Hi Amie, >> >> Regarding the blood sugar problem, I have read 2 accounts about that >> from: >> http://www.emrpolicy.org/news/headlines/emrpi_comment_gn_09_51_fcc_09_31\ >> .pdf I saved the original doc that used to be on their website from >> which the above summary doc was derived. >> * Mrs. Schou's glucose sugar varied from 120 in low conditions to 160 in >> higher electrical environments. >> * Mr. Kleiber mentioned normal blood sugar 100-120 jumping to over 300 >> from a neighbor's cell phone, not helped by insulin, but once the >> neighbor left, it dropped to 30. >> Both powerline EMF and wireless EMF may affect blood sugar, and possibly >> wireless EMF moreso. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to recommend >> any blood sugar monitoring equipment. >> >> Regarding your computer use, I think a computer can be used comfortably >> if following some general guidelines. First off, I would recommend an >> LCD flat panel monitor (esp. one that is TCO compliant) over a CRT >> monitor to reduce powerline magnetic fields. Ideally .29 mm dot pitch >> or higher and configured to screen refresh rate of 75 Hz for comfort on >> the eyes. I would also recommend using a USB keyboard and USB mouse to >> keep some distance from laptops, which also have some power line EMF. >> Keep the power surge protectors about a meter or more away. >> Prefer a wired connection over Wi-Fi. Instead of a Wi-Fi router, you >> can get a wired router. To turn off wi-fi on your laptop, you can check >> this link for more info: >> http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=214308 >> >> You can get some more ideas on precautionary measures here: >> http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php >> >> >> --- In [hidden email], Amie Kim<MsAmieKim@> wrote: >>> Hi eSens group, >>> >>> I joined this group after watching a video today about >> Electrosensitivity and >> Diabetes<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcM6RZwyfA&feature=player_embed\ >> ded>. >>> I know that I have blood sugar issues because my holistic health >>> practitioners told me. I haven't been officially diagnosed with >> diabetes or >>> pre-diabetes; I highly mistrust the western/allopathic medical >> industry, so >>> a western diagnosis won't be helpful to me. I'm not sure yet whether >>> electrosensitivity is a big factor me, but I do spend a LOT of time on >> the >>> computer, and I notice that I'm generally happier and more energetic >> when I >>> spend less time on the computer. >>> >>> My closest friend definitely has electrosensitivity and multiple >> health >>> issues. Whenever she's near a computer or cell phone or radio tower >> for more >>> than 5 minutes, her knuckles and other joints swell up visibly. She >> thinks >>> that she has heavy metal poisoning from dental work. >>> >>> I'm on here to get more information. >>> >>> ~Amie >>> Oakland California >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: eSens Moderator [hidden email] >>> Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM >>> Subject: Yahoo! Groups: Welcome to eSens. Visit today! >>> To: MsAmieKim@ |
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Sweet smelling urine can be a sign of diabetes (It was one of the symptoms I noticed before being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes). some of the high blood sugar/glucose can leak into the kidney.
I'm no medical expert so I don't know if there are other causes of urine smelling sweet. If you're asking can having electrosensitivity cause ones urine to smell sweet. Well, firstly I guess only if the theories being put forward in the original posts on this topic are true, that emfs can raise your blood sugar. And secondly only if there's a problem with your pancreas and there isn't enough/any insulin being produced to move the glucose/sugar from the blood to your body's cells (as is the case with diabetes), which allows the glucose to build. If it's not diagnosed some of the glucose will start leaking into the kidneys, and hence the sweet smelling urine. If you have sweet smelling urine I would suggest going to a medical practitioner as soon as possible to rule out diabetes. --- In [hidden email], Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...> wrote: > > Could that cause ones urine to smell sweet? > > Thanks, > > Cheryl > > --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: electrosensitivity, diabetes and dental poisoning > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 9:47 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > Andrew > > > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:14 PM, seandaly33 wrote: > > > > > someone with electrosensitivity who doesn't have diabetes may still > > > have a pancreas that is being overworked through sugar/glucose > > > relese due to the stresses of the emfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Thanks for the info. I don't have medical insurance but I located a health fair at the end of this month that will test for diabetes and I will get the test done there. It sounds strange to say that I hope it is in fact diabetes. But that is because the other causes of sweet smelling urine are much more serious and would be very difficult to treat without medical insurance.
Thanks again, Cheryl --- On Thu, 9/9/10, seandaly33 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: seandaly33 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: electrosensitivity, diabetes and dental poisoning To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 9:23 AM Sweet smelling urine can be a sign of diabetes (It was one of the symptoms I noticed before being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes). some of the high blood sugar/glucose can leak into the kidney. I'm no medical expert so I don't know if there are other causes of urine smelling sweet. If you're asking can having electrosensitivity cause ones urine to smell sweet. Well, firstly I guess only if the theories being put forward in the original posts on this topic are true, that emfs can raise your blood sugar. And secondly only if there's a problem with your pancreas and there isn't enough/any insulin being produced to move the glucose/sugar from the blood to your body's cells (as is the case with diabetes), which allows the glucose to build. If it's not diagnosed some of the glucose will start leaking into the kidneys, and hence the sweet smelling urine. If you have sweet smelling urine I would suggest going to a medical practitioner as soon as possible to rule out diabetes. --- In [hidden email], Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...> wrote: > > Could that cause ones urine to smell sweet? > > Thanks, > > Cheryl > > --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: electrosensitivity, diabetes and dental poisoning > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 9:47 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > Andrew > > > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:14 PM, seandaly33 wrote: > > > > > someone with electrosensitivity who doesn't have diabetes may still > > > have a pancreas that is being overworked through sugar/glucose > > > relese due to the stresses of the emfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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