dnr system for ES people now available

http://dnrsystem.com/dnrs_dvd.html#DNRSTRANSCRIPTION

and here is a new testimony: http://www.dnrsystem.com/testimonial_linda.html

I think Gupta system was useless but this might be better, who knows, at least Annie Hopper herself had ES.

So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?
I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases.  Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist? I can understand where the snowball effect kicks in once the personal safety net is perceived as flawed, but are they saying that personal stress is what initially created these various responses?  It's interesting. 

Pam

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and here is a new testimony: http://www.dnrsystem.com/testimonial_linda.html



I think Gupta system was useless but this might be better, who knows, at least Annie Hopper herself had ES.





   
     

   
   






 










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On May  1, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:
> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?
> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases. 
> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?

I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.
They did not work for me at all.

Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really
going to do anything other than waste your time and money.

Marc

Thanks Marc,

I had a line out to you.  I was hoping that you would reply to this, but I didn't realize it would be so quickly.  I guess it's worth trying once I can come up with the money.  I was in a very stressful place when I came down with this thing.  Maybe it was the snowball effect in this case. Now, here's the toss do I try the quantum thing or the neuro thing first?  H-m-m-m.

Pam


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      On May  1, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?

> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases. 

> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?



I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.

They did not work for me at all.



Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really

going to do anything other than waste your time and money.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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I agree. Toxicity plays a huge role in any chronic condition.

But you know, there are some people who are easily
hypnotized. Military methods often push people past their
stress limits, and then re program the mind/memory.

Elizabeth

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      On May  1, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?

> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases.  

> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?



I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.

They did not work for me at all.



Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really

going to do anything other than waste your time and money.



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Hi Pam,

I am not trashing DNR, I do think most of us would profit from it, or a similar program, at some point.  But there are both neural memories, and actual bodily dysfunctions at work with ES.  DNR will not heal, for instance, ion channel leaking.  But DNR will heal the anticipation or anxiety one encounters when they go into an area they formerly reacted to but should not *now* react to, because they are healed, or partially, healed. 


I personally have found I sometimes react to pesticides in my old house (which had a bad pesticide problem--long story), and it is now 6 years after the pesticide was used.  I now tell myself that I am just imagining it, and I often do not react the same (bronchial mucus, chest pain, lymphatic swelling.....  However, I have had complete anaphylaxis [complete inability to breathe within 10 steps of the front door] to pesticides in some shops which I have entered and had no idea they pesticided before going in.  So.... you do the math.) 


I can sometimes see a difference in ES situations by doing this, also.  But it doesn't always work.  I usually do not react anymore, but still there are times I do.  Now when I react, the reaction usually isn't due to anticipation or neural memories, but due to me not taking good enough care of my health, overall.  [Due to caring for my parents and hanging out in hospitals and doctors offices too much.]  In otherwords, telling myself I am imagining it doesn't usually help.  But if I go home and nurture myself for a few days, I can return to the same environment and not react to the same emfs.

Blessings,
Diane



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Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:18 PM
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Thanks Marc,

I had a line out to you.  I was hoping that you would reply to this, but I didn't realize it would be so quickly.  I guess it's worth trying once I can come up with the money.  I was in a very stressful place when I came down with this thing.  Maybe it was the snowball effect in this case. Now, here's the toss do I try the quantum thing or the neuro thing first?  H-m-m-m.

Pam


--- On Tue, 5/1/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

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      On May  1, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?

> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases. 

> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?



I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.

They did not work for me at all.



Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really

going to do anything other than waste your time and money.



Marc



   
   

   
   






 










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Hi, Lizzie,

You have a point here!  Yes, some forms of neural reprogramming might not be particularly good, healthwise.

Thanks for the thought,
Diane



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Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 2:27 PM
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I agree. Toxicity plays a huge role in any chronic condition.

But you know, there are some people who are easily
hypnotized. Military methods often push people past their
stress limits, and then re program the mind/memory.

Elizabeth

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      On May  1, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?

> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases. 

> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?



I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.

They did not work for me at all.



Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really

going to do anything other than waste your time and money.



Marc



   
   

   
   






                            

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> I had a line out to you.  I was hoping that you would reply to this,
> but I didn't realize it would be so quickly. 

And I should note that I have NOT tried this specific program, so
who knows, maybe it would be more helpful than the things
I've tried.

The last neural training thing I tried was called "NMT", which is
supposed to be an improvement over "NAET".  In the past,
we had at least one person say that NMT cured them of their
ES.  However, NMT didn't do anything for me, and the practitoner
even admitted that is was not working.

This DNR program at least has the advantage that you don't
have to setup and go to appointments with someone.

Marc

I too, agree.  If the toxicity isn't going away then why not try to enjoy it.
 
Have a great week Ms. Lizzie!
Pam


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I agree. Toxicity plays a huge role in any chronic condition.

But you know, there are some people who are easily
hypnotized. Military methods often push people past their
stress limits, and then re program the mind/memory.

Elizabeth

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 10:12:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] dnr system for ES people now available

On May 1, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?

> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases.

> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?

I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.

They did not work for me at all.

Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really

going to do anything other than waste your time and money.

Marc



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Thanks Diane,
 
That's exactly how I feel.  That now, since the snowball began to grow, I can get freaked out just at the thought of certain things or situations that were bad for me in the past.  I do believe that this condition has changed attitudes of mine.  But as I told Marc, I was feeling under the gun before the full blown EHS kicked in, so maybe the overload on my limpic system was the final straw.  It was limpic, right?  I totally get everything you shared.  Everything works off of everything.
 
Have a great week!
Pam

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Hi Pam,

I am not trashing DNR, I do think most of us would profit from it, or a similar program, at some point.  But there are both neural memories, and actual bodily dysfunctions at work with ES.  DNR will not heal, for instance, ion channel leaking.  But DNR will heal the anticipation or anxiety one encounters when they go into an area they formerly reacted to but should not *now* react to, because they are healed, or partially, healed. 

I personally have found I sometimes react to pesticides in my old house (which had a bad pesticide problem--long story), and it is now 6 years after the pesticide was used.  I now tell myself that I am just imagining it, and I often do not react the same (bronchial mucus, chest pain, lymphatic swelling.....  However, I have had complete anaphylaxis [complete inability to breathe within 10 steps of the front door] to pesticides in some shops which I have entered and had no idea they pesticided before going in.  So.... you do the math.) 

I can sometimes see a difference in ES situations by doing this, also.  But it doesn't always work.  I usually do not react anymore, but still there are times I do.  Now when I react, the reaction usually isn't due to anticipation or neural memories, but due to me not taking good enough care of my health, overall.  [Due to caring for my parents and hanging out in hospitals and doctors offices too much.]  In otherwords, telling myself I am imagining it doesn't usually help.  But if I go home and nurture myself for a few days, I can return to the same environment and not react to the same emfs.

Blessings,
Diane

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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] dnr system for ES people now available

Thanks Marc,

I had a line out to you.  I was hoping that you would reply to this, but I didn't realize it would be so quickly.  I guess it's worth trying once I can come up with the money.  I was in a very stressful place when I came down with this thing.  Maybe it was the snowball effect in this case. Now, here's the toss do I try the quantum thing or the neuro thing first?  H-m-m-m.

Pam

--- On Tue, 5/1/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

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To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 1:12 PM

 

 

   
     
     
      On May  1, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?

> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases. 

> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?

I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.

They did not work for me at all.

Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really

going to do anything other than waste your time and money.

Marc

   
   

   
   

 

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True Marc,
 
And it looks like you can go at your own pace with the DVD set.  I appreciate your candor and frankness.  Also, as you've stated many times, among us--everything doesn't work for everyone.  I know I am grateful for any small improvement I can acquire at any given time.
 
Have a great week!
Pam
 

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> I had a line out to you.  I was hoping that you would reply to this,
> but I didn't realize it would be so quickly. 

And I should note that I have NOT tried this specific program, so
who knows, maybe it would be more helpful than the things
I've tried.

The last neural training thing I tried was called "NMT", which is
supposed to be an improvement over "NAET". In the past,
we had at least one person say that NMT cured them of their
ES. However, NMT didn't do anything for me, and the practitoner
even admitted that is was not working.

This DNR program at least has the advantage that you don't
have to setup and go to appointments with someone.

Marc







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