copper paint

I too have not figured out how to make the copper paint work completely, after 5 years!
I have tried different grounding sources and techniques, different blocking materials on the windows, $100s on specialists, turning off the power at the breakers, etc.
I am currently working with turning off the power to the entire house at the outside breaker and running the fridges from my solar system batteries.
The next thing to try is grounding the copper wall directly with its own dedicated line to the house main ground rod. The separate ground did not work and I think is dangerous.

Good luck to anyone to make it work. There are so many variables.

Andrew

Raleigh, NC

Andrew,
This sounds like it has been an incredibly frustrating situation for you.
Copper is an excellent electrical conductor. Its why copper is used in wiring.
I can't imagine using copper paint would lower or block because of its properties to conduct electricity.

Also: Do you know if your electric is grounded to any water lines?
It was standard for electricians to ground electrical to water lines. This creates what is called: net current to
piggyback on all water lines in the house. Although the effect is worse with radiator heat, it still causes net current
even with forced air heating systems.
As of 2011, this code was changed by the NEC. (National Electric Code). But few Electricians seem to understand
why this code was changed, or the dangers it creates.
The electric should only be grounded at the service entrance, which is the main panel box.
And it also common to find duct work in contact with wiring. This will also create emfs.

Also, turning off the circuits does not actually zero out current in the wiring.
To actually have no electrical net current in the wiring (walls, ceiling light fixtures), the only
way would be to completely disconnect that wiring from the main power panel box.
Otherwise, you will get something similiar to phantom current. Even though the meters will show nothing, which is  quite misleading.

In addition, broadband over power lines translates to wifi/ and wireless signals piggybacking onto the house's wiring system,
even if your house does not have any wireless, it will piggyback on to the wiring from either the power line
or the telephone lines.

In my opinion, the only way to get a clean room, would be a total disconnect of any wiring in the room, the room under or over
that room, any wiring on opposite wall of that room, disconnected completely from the main power box.... because all the wiring is connected.

In addition, if your bedroom is in the path of any geopathic stress lines, this adds ionizing radiation to the whole situation.
Read: http://www.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html
IF the above link doesn't work, google: richard creightmore land and spirits geopathic stress.
While not a commonly looked at factor in ES, I have seen enough to believe that this geopathic stress
acts to magnify or multiply ALL other forms of emfs.

Lizzie
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      I too have not figured out how to make the copper paint work completely, after 5 years!

I have tried different grounding sources and techniques, different blocking materials on the windows, $100s on specialists, turning off the power at the breakers, etc.

I am currently working with turning off the power to the entire house at the outside breaker and running the fridges from my solar system batteries.

The next thing to try is grounding the copper wall directly with its own dedicated line to the house main ground rod. The separate ground did not work and I think is dangerous.



Good luck to anyone to make it work. There are so many variables.



Andrew



Raleigh, NC





   
     

   
   






       

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If you have unfiltered wiring passing through the shield, you're going to
have signals getting through.

You have to decide on your goals.  If you just want to block microwaves,
It's not hard to get 10, maybe 20 db
with a shielding paint.  Getting more is hard, but if there are no leaks
it's possible.

On the other hand, the whole thing may resonate at some lower frequency,
like FM.
Whether that affects you I don't know.  RF grounding should kill the
resonances.

The other problem is low frequency magnetic fields that can't be shielded,
and
can be made worse by creative grounding.  Make sure everything is only
grounded once.

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This is my experience which I would like to better understand…

I turned all my breakers off except for one, and was informed that by doing this (rather than using the main electrical shut off) that the neutral wire was still active throughout my house. So current was still flowing through all neutral wires.

I have also learned that wireless (and electricity too) flies through the air and creates EMFs wherever there is metal. So even if the main electrical box is completely disconnected anything metal/conductive will take on EMFs through the air. So anything metal--house wiring, copper paint, your car, and even grounding rods will become sources of where EMFs concentrate.

Attaching things to grounding rods which are not connected to electrical systems (and located away from electrical systems) is what I have been advising people to do. But with all the wireless in the air I am not sure there is any good way to ground.




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Ya it's really complicated. I hate this. Wish something would work. My Building Biologist said there's a new mesh out you can cover your walls with 10 Ghz. But you have to ground that also which again is a problem. Loni
 
Hey Scotty McCreary is from Raleigh! I bet there was some chaos when he won!
 


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Subject: [eSens] copper paint
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I too have not figured out how to make the copper paint work completely, after 5 years!
I have tried different grounding sources and techniques, different blocking materials on the windows, $100s on specialists, turning off the power at the breakers, etc.
I am currently working with turning off the power to the entire house at the outside breaker and running the fridges from my solar system batteries.
The next thing to try is grounding the copper wall directly with its own dedicated line to the house main ground rod. The separate ground did not work and I think is dangerous.

Good luck to anyone to make it work. There are so many variables.

Andrew

Raleigh, NC








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I guess we cant have out technological cake and eat it ! unless its 100%  
organic of course.
 
Puk
 
 
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[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
This is my experience which I would like to better understand…

I  turned all my breakers off except for one, and was informed that by
doing this  (rather than using the main electrical shut off) that the neutral
wire was  still active throughout my house. So current was still flowing
through all  neutral wires.

I have also learned that wireless (and electricity too)  flies through the
air and creates EMFs wherever there is metal. So even if the  main
electrical box is completely disconnected anything metal/conductive will  take on
EMFs through the air. So anything metal--house wiring, copper paint,  your car,
and even grounding rods will become sources of where EMFs  concentrate.

Attaching things to grounding rods which are not  connected to electrical
systems (and located away from electrical systems) is  what I have been
advising people to do. But with all the wireless in the air I  am not sure there
is any good way to ground.

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Bill Bruno  
<wbruno@...> wrote: shielded, completely,
> > after 5 years!
> > I have tried different  grounding sources and techniques, different
> > blocking materials on  the windows, $100s on specialists, turning off
the
> > power at the  breakers, etc.
> > I am currently working with turning off the power  to the entire house
at
> > the outside breaker and running the  fridges from my solar system
batteries.
> > The next thing to try is  grounding the copper wall directly with its
own
> > dedicated line to  the house main ground rod. The separate ground did
not





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