Dear Group,
I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifieldmeter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my needs.) Thank you for any help. Best, Sue |
That's nice of them, as for the circuit breaker depends I suppose how far
from it you would be, also depends on how much RF noise is on the line at any one time some of which turning the breaker off will not stop, as you know other issue such as what is below above and around you, whats coming in from outside and so on#you really need 48hrs in there to test I guess. puk In a message dated 20/06/2010 04:25:34 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Dear Group, I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my needs.) Thank you for any help. Best, Sue [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Yes, you could measure it, but like Puk says testing in real life is alwaysthe best option, maybe you can ask them to "test" the room for a couple ofdays?
One bedroom in my parent's house is close to the breaker, the bed is like 2metres away from it and I sleep great there... I don't think you will find a lot rooms for rent in a house where they are willing to put the breakers + wifi off at night... Also important emf-wise is whether you have neighbours closeby, with wifi/dect/... Stephen. --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: > > That's nice of them, as for the circuit breaker depends I suppose how far > from it you would be, also depends on how much RF noise is on the line at > any one time some of which turning the breaker off will not stop, as youknow > other issue such as what is below above and around you, whats coming in > from outside and so on#you really need 48hrs in there to test I guess. > > puk > > > In a message dated 20/06/2010 04:25:34 GMT Daylight Time, > marydelamer@... writes: > > > > > Dear Group, > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which > contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting > out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various > reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield > meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. > (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my > needs.) > > Thank you for any help. > > Best, > Sue > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Now I think of it, my bed in my house is also only 4 metres away from the fuse box... well next month I'll know more but otherwise I will have to put the bed on a geopathic stress line or in the living room...
Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote: > > Yes, you could measure it, but like Puk says testing in real life is always the best option, maybe you can ask them to "test" the room for a couple of days? > > One bedroom in my parent's house is close to the breaker, the bed is like2 metres away from it and I sleep great there... > > I don't think you will find a lot rooms for rent in a house where they are willing to put the breakers + wifi off at night... > > Also important emf-wise is whether you have neighbours closeby, with wifi/dect/... > > Stephen. > > > > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > That's nice of them, as for the circuit breaker depends I suppose how far > > from it you would be, also depends on how much RF noise is on the line at > > any one time some of which turning the breaker off will not stop, as you know > > other issue such as what is below above and around you, whats coming in > > from outside and so on#you really need 48hrs in there to test I guess. > > > > puk > > > > > > In a message dated 20/06/2010 04:25:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > marydelamer@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which > > contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting > > out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various > > reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield > > meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. > > (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my > > needs.) > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > Best, > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |
puk and Stephen,
Thank you for your help. I decided not to take the room for other reasons. It was a room in Fairfax, which is very advanced, in terms of ecology and politics -- they are one of only 2 municipalities in the entire Bay Area who are refusing the Smart Meter roll-out from PG&E. But Fairfax originated as a "vacation town" for San Franciscans, so the homes I've seen are built in a ramshackle way, the construction is not good, and there is mold presence. And, this room I wasconsidering was beside the oft-watered garden, and I have tried to live beside a garden before, and was made very sick by the soil molds (which especially emit into the air when watered). I feel I must buy a used car and move to a rural area, but it could take a long time, for me to find a way to raise enough money. I am worried about detoxing heavy metals in such high ambient electrosmog. Best, Sue --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote: > > Now I think of it, my bed in my house is also only 4 metres away from thefuse box... well next month I'll know more but otherwise I will have to put the bed on a geopathic stress line or in the living room... > > Stephen. > > > > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote: > > > > Yes, you could measure it, but like Puk says testing in real life is always the best option, maybe you can ask them to "test" the room for a couple of days? > > > > One bedroom in my parent's house is close to the breaker, the bed is like 2 metres away from it and I sleep great there... > > > > I don't think you will find a lot rooms for rent in a house where they are willing to put the breakers + wifi off at night... > > > > Also important emf-wise is whether you have neighbours closeby, with wifi/dect/... > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > > > That's nice of them, as for the circuit breaker depends I suppose howfar > > > from it you would be, also depends on how much RF noise is on the line at > > > any one time some of which turning the breaker off will not stop, asyou know > > > other issue such as what is below above and around you, whats comingin > > > from outside and so on#you really need 48hrs in there to test I guess. > > > > > > puk > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 20/06/2010 04:25:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > marydelamer@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which > > > contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > > > > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting > > > out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various > > > reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with myTrifield > > > meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > > > > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. > > > (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my > > > needs.) > > > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > > > Best, > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > |
Hi Sue,
I know what you mean about cost of moving as it took me a long time also tobe able to afford it. I finally moved last October. You are right, it is hard to detox in a high electrosmog area. There was a very good article referred to from here about research done with autistic children. When they were heavily exposed to EMF, I am assuming cell phones ,computers, etc. they were given chelation and still couldn't effectively release the metal from their bodies. However, when removed as much as possible from the EMF sources they began to excrete the metal even without the chelation! This means that when you move away from the electosmog sources youmay likely naturally get rid of the metal from your body without taking anything to detox. This is extremely important to know because when I moved Icontinued to take chelation as I didn't know about this and in effect I was "double detoxing" and got worse from detoxing too fast. The elderly man Iwas taking care of was effected even more. After the move I continued to give him chelation which had helped him so much in the past. But after the move he started to detox so fast that he passed out several times and was overnight in the hospital. So the point that is so important to understand is that it could be dangerous to take anything to detox your bodywith at the same time that your EMF exposure is dramatically reduced as that alone will detox your body. I mentioned this before in previous correspondence here but I want to be sure people are aware of this phenomena. If myexplanation is unclear please let me know. If you need help finding that article that I referred to about the autistic kids let me know and I will see if I can find it. It was last November I believe. I also live in California, but in L.A. area. Best of luck with your endeavor. Cheryl --- On Mon, 6/21/10, lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: circuit breaker in bedroom? To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:28 AM puk and Stephen, Thank you for your help. I decided not to take the room for other reasons. It was a room in Fairfax, which is very advanced, in terms of ecology and politics -- they are one of only 2 municipalities in the entire Bay Area who are refusing the Smart Meter roll-out from PG&E. But Fairfax originated as a "vacation town" for San Franciscans, so the homes I've seen are built in a ramshackle way, the construction is not good, and there is mold presence. And, this room I wasconsidering was beside the oft-watered garden, and I have tried to live beside a garden before, and was made very sick by the soil molds (which especially emit into the air when watered). I feel I must buy a used car and move to a rural area, but it could take a long time, for me to find a way to raise enough money. I am worried about detoxing heavy metals in such high ambient electrosmog. Best, Sue --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote: > > Now I think of it, my bed in my house is also only 4 metres away from thefuse box... well next month I'll know more but otherwise I will have to put the bed on a geopathic stress line or in the living room... > > Stephen. > > > > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote: > > > > Yes, you could measure it, but like Puk says testing in real life is always the best option, maybe you can ask them to "test" the room for a couple of days? > > > > One bedroom in my parent's house is close to the breaker, the bed is like 2 metres away from it and I sleep great there... > > > > I don't think you will find a lot rooms for rent in a house where they are willing to put the breakers + wifi off at night... > > > > Also important emf-wise is whether you have neighbours closeby, with wifi/dect/... > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > > > That's nice of them, as for the circuit breaker depends I suppose howfar > > > from it you would be, also depends on how much RF noise is on the line at > > > any one time some of which turning the breaker off will not stop, asyou know > > > other issue such as what is below above and around you, whats comingin > > > from outside and so on#you really need 48hrs in there to test I guess. > > > > > > puk > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 20/06/2010 04:25:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > marydelamer@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which > > > contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > > > > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting > > > out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various > > > reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with myTrifield > > > meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > > > > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. > > > (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my > > > needs.) > > > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > > > Best, > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
In reply to this post by lolahunt3
Wow, I wouldn't. Loni
--- On Sat, 6/19/10, lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] circuit breaker in bedroom? To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 8:23 PM Dear Group, I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my needs.) Thank you for any help. Best, Sue [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thank you, Cheryl. I had no idea this would be the case. Very important to know. I will try to find the article. -Sue
--- In [hidden email], Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...> wrote: > > Hi Sue, > > I know what you mean about cost of moving as it took me a long time also to be able to afford it. I finally moved last October. > > You are right, it is hard to detox in a high electrosmog area. There was a very good article referred to from here about research done with autisticchildren. When they were heavily exposed to EMF, I am assuming cell phones, computers, etc. they were given chelation and still couldn't effectivelyrelease the metal from their bodies. However, when removed as much as possible from the EMF sources they began to excrete the metal even without the chelation! This means that when you move away from the electosmog sources you may likely naturally get rid of the metal from your body without taking anything to detox. This is extremely important to know because when I movedI continued to take chelation as I didn't know about this and in effect I was "double detoxing" and got worse from detoxing too fast. The elderly manI was taking care of was effected even more. After the move I continued togive him chelation which had helped him so much in the past. But > after the move he started to detox so fast that he passed out several times and was overnight in the hospital. So the point that is so important tounderstand is that it could be dangerous to take anything to detox your body with at the same time that your EMF exposure is dramatically reduced as that alone will detox your body. I mentioned this before in previous correspondence here but I want to be sure people are aware of this phenomena. If my explanation is unclear please let me know. If you need help finding thatarticle that I referred to about the autistic kids let me know and I will see if I can find it. It was last November I believe. > > I also live in California, but in L.A. area. > > Best of luck with your endeavor. > > Cheryl > > > > > --- On Mon, 6/21/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote: > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: circuit breaker in bedroom? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:28 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > puk and Stephen, > > > > Thank you for your help. > > > > I decided not to take the room for other reasons. It was a room in Fairfax, which is very advanced, in terms of ecology and politics -- they are one of only 2 municipalities in the entire Bay Area who are refusing the Smart Meter roll-out from PG&E. But Fairfax originated as a "vacation town" for San Franciscans, so the homes I've seen are built in a ramshackle way, the construction is not good, and there is mold presence. And, this room I was considering was beside the oft-watered garden, and I have tried to live beside a garden before, and was made very sick by the soil molds (which especially emit into the air when watered). > > > > I feel I must buy a used car and move to a rural area, but it could take a long time, for me to find a way to raise enough money. I am worried about detoxing heavy metals in such high ambient electrosmog. > > > > Best, > > Sue > > > > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote: > > > > > > Now I think of it, my bed in my house is also only 4 metres away from the fuse box... well next month I'll know more but otherwise I will have to put the bed on a geopathic stress line or in the living room... > > > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, you could measure it, but like Puk says testing in real life is always the best option, maybe you can ask them to "test" the room for a couple of days? > > > > > > > > One bedroom in my parent's house is close to the breaker, the bed is like 2 metres away from it and I sleep great there... > > > > > > > > I don't think you will find a lot rooms for rent in a house where they are willing to put the breakers + wifi off at night... > > > > > > > > Also important emf-wise is whether you have neighbours closeby, with wifi/dect/... > > > > > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That's nice of them, as for the circuit breaker depends I suppose how far > > > > > from it you would be, also depends on how much RF noise is on the line at > > > > > any one time some of which turning the breaker off will not stop, as you know > > > > > other issue such as what is below above and around you, whats coming in > > > > > from outside and so on#you really need 48hrs in there to test I guess. > > > > > > > > > > puk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 20/06/2010 04:25:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > > marydelamer@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which > > > > > contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting > > > > > out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various > > > > > reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield > > > > > meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > > > > > > > > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. > > > > > (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my > > > > > needs.) > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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thank you, Loni -- I really would prefer a more safe haven than that! -Sue
--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Wow, I wouldn't. Loni > > --- On Sat, 6/19/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote: > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> > Subject: [eSens] circuit breaker in bedroom? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 8:23 PM > > > Â > > > > Dear Group, > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room whichcontains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my needs.) > > Thank you for any help. > > Best, > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Hi Sue,
A couple of years ago when I didn't know what the heck was going on with meI tried to find a room to rent & I couldn't tolerate any of them. But thatcircuit breaker would really be the deal breaker for me. Hope you can find something Sue. I can certainly relate. Loni --- On Mon, 6/21/10, lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: circuit breaker in bedroom? To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 11:48 AM thank you, Loni -- I really would prefer a more safe haven than that! -Sue --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Wow, I wouldn't. Loni > > --- On Sat, 6/19/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote: > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> > Subject: [eSens] circuit breaker in bedroom? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 8:23 PM > > > Â > > > > Dear Group, > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room whichcontains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my needs.) > > Thank you for any help. > > Best, > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
thank you, Loni -- it helps a lot to have found this yahoo group -- it helps a lot to know that there are other people out there, who are going through, or who have been through, the same things... -Sue
--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Hi Sue, >  > A couple of years ago when I didn't know what the heck was going on with me I tried to find a room to rent & I couldn't tolerate any of them. But that circuit breaker would really be the deal breaker for me. Hope you can find something Sue. I can certainly relate. Loni > > --- On Mon, 6/21/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote: > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: circuit breaker in bedroom? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 11:48 AM > > >  > > > > thank you, Loni -- I really would prefer a more safe haven than that! -Sue > > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote: > > > > Wow, I wouldn't. Loni > > > > --- On Sat, 6/19/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote: > > > > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> > > Subject: [eSens] circuit breaker in bedroom? > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 8:23 PM > > > > > > à> > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my needs.) > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > Best, > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Yes if not for groups like this one I don't think I would have made it through to this point with all the social alienation. Truely are life saving for people like us! Loni
--- On Mon, 6/21/10, lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: circuit breaker in bedroom? To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 1:52 PM thank you, Loni -- it helps a lot to have found this yahoo group -- it helps a lot to know that there are other people out there, who are going through, or who have been through, the same things... -Sue --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Hi Sue, >  > A couple of years ago when I didn't know what the heck was going on with me I tried to find a room to rent & I couldn't tolerate any of them. But that circuit breaker would really be the deal breaker for me. Hope you can find something Sue. I can certainly relate. Loni > > --- On Mon, 6/21/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote: > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: circuit breaker in bedroom? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 11:48 AM > > >  > > > > thank you, Loni -- I really would prefer a more safe haven than that! -Sue > > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote: > > > > Wow, I wouldn't. Loni > > > > --- On Sat, 6/19/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote: > > > > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> > > Subject: [eSens] circuit breaker in bedroom? > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 8:23 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I was offered a room for rent today, in a 4-br home. It is the room which contains the circuit breaker box. What do you think? > > > > I did not get to see, nor electrically test, the room (they were renting out 2 other rooms, which I had looked at, but could not take for various reasons). Is it worth it, for me to go back and test the room with my Trifield meter? Or, is a circuit breaker box a dealbreaker? > > > > They do turn off the circuit breakers every night while everyone sleeps. (And they're willing to turn off the wi-fi router every night to meet my needs.) > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > Best, > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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