cell phone towers

Ohhhhhhh thanks Stewart; that's interesting!  Loni

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:57 AM


 



Loni wrote:
> Are you saying there is a difference in what the antennas do on the towers or just about distance & strength difference? Loni
>

I am not sure how much the towers vary their output depending on the
distance of the remote cel-phone. That will need an engineer closer to
the technology to answer. As far as I'm concerned, they are always
"shouting."

To the second half of your question, if I understand you correctly, the
answer is no. I had two things in mind:
For the tower side, it is more important to increase your distance, to
get the strength lower.
For the cel-phone side, when the tower is farther away, the cel-phone
must increase it's transmitting power to be heard. So it becomes just as
important to have fewer cel-phones around you.

Stewart









     

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Hi, Stewart and Loni,
 
Thanks for all the info you have been sharing on this thread, Stewart.  I had not realized that cell phone strength increased the further away you are from the tower.  I do not use a cell phone, but that does explain some reactions I've experienced with others' phones.
 
Loni, in our area, towers are all different strengths (I live in a mostly mountainous area).  We have one that seems to be a WiMax--way stronger than all the rest; It radiates from a high mountain-side for great distances; I avoid even going in that vacinity.  Then, depending on topography, other towers are lesser intensity, but vary a great deal in strengths.  Also, when it is particularly rainy or snowy, the emfs on all the towers are increased, as well.  Also I think you are asking whether some towers put out different types of frequencies than other towers?  This seems the case here also.  Not all towers are strictly cell towers. 
 
So at our house, we have one tower out the side window of our livingroom about 2 miles away.  I can barely feel it.  But we have another tower (not the WiMax) out our back diningroom patio doors which is, I think, 3 1/2 miles away (nearly twice as far), but it feels twice the strength of the closer one inside our house.  (I would love to own a rocket launcher--it would be dead meat!  lol)  Instead I am busy adding pine trees at the back of our property.  A new tower is also being erected in that same vacinity, so I hope it is not going to be as strong!  In the summer, trees help shield the towers alot, but in winter, I have to use emf shielding fabric to line drapes.  (I velcro it to the tops of the drapes.)
 
Diane

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:57 AM


 



Loni wrote:
> Are you saying there is a difference in what the antennas do on the towers or just about distance & strength difference? Loni
>

I am not sure how much the towers vary their output depending on the
distance of the remote cel-phone. That will need an engineer closer to
the technology to answer. As far as I'm concerned, they are always
"shouting."

To the second half of your question, if I understand you correctly, the
answer is no. I had two things in mind:
For the tower side, it is more important to increase your distance, to
get the strength lower.
For the cel-phone side, when the tower is farther away, the cel-phone
must increase it's transmitting power to be heard. So it becomes just as
important to have fewer cel-phones around you.

Stewart









     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Diane!
 
Thanks for that info! So how do I find out if there is a Wimax antenna near by?
 
I wish my towers were miles away not that any of it's good. I've got the antennas at the High School not even a quarter of a mile away & then the tower at the library which is about a half a mile away. Then there are several all around me all directions.
 
I can see the antennas out my back window that are very close & I, too, like you have put up trees to block some of it. Taking too darn long to grow however.
 
I would like to know the strength of the antennas. With the addition of smart meters I just need to get the hell outa dodge! 
 
Loni
 
 
 
 


--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:47 PM


 



Hi, Stewart and Loni,
 
Thanks for all the info you have been sharing on this thread, Stewart.  I had not realized that cell phone strength increased the further away you are from the tower.  I do not use a cell phone, but that does explain some reactions I've experienced with others' phones.
 
Loni, in our area, towers are all different strengths (I live in a mostly mountainous area).  We have one that seems to be a WiMax--way stronger than all the rest; It radiates from a high mountain-side for great distances; I avoid even going in that vacinity.  Then, depending on topography, other towers are lesser intensity, but vary a great deal in strengths.  Also, when it is particularly rainy or snowy, the emfs on all the towers are increased, as well.  Also I think you are asking whether some towers put out different types of frequencies than other towers?  This seems the case here also.  Not all towers are strictly cell towers. 
 
So at our house, we have one tower out the side window of our livingroom about 2 miles away.  I can barely feel it.  But we have another tower (not the WiMax) out our back diningroom patio doors which is, I think, 3 1/2 miles away (nearly twice as far), but it feels twice the strength of the closer one inside our house.  (I would love to own a rocket launcher--it would be dead meat!  lol)  Instead I am busy adding pine trees at the back of our property.  A new tower is also being erected in that same vacinity, so I hope it is not going to be as strong!  In the summer, trees help shield the towers alot, but in winter, I have to use emf shielding fabric to line drapes.  (I velcro it to the tops of the drapes.)
 
Diane

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:57 AM

 

Loni wrote:
> Are you saying there is a difference in what the antennas do on the towers or just about distance & strength difference? Loni
>

I am not sure how much the towers vary their output depending on the
distance of the remote cel-phone. That will need an engineer closer to
the technology to answer. As far as I'm concerned, they are always
"shouting."

To the second half of your question, if I understand you correctly, the
answer is no. I had two things in mind:
For the tower side, it is more important to increase your distance, to
get the strength lower.
For the cel-phone side, when the tower is farther away, the cel-phone
must increase it's transmitting power to be heard. So it becomes just as
important to have fewer cel-phones around you.

Stewart

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Stewart,
 
Bless your heart. You had me lmao with this one.  I came down with this EHS about 3 years ago between having gotten a knew cell phone that year (the ungodly i195v Motorola- CNET listed as the number 1 worst SAR rated phone -- discontinued at the time when I bought it.  It was my first phone) and then moving to Newark NJ that December.  I began feeling cell towers first, then WIFI, then other people's phones.  I had always felt the radiating of my phone, but didn't equate the feeling with any type of potential health threat.  I spent many hours on that phone. What a mistake that was!!!
 
But I had to laugh, because I know exactly how you feel when people turn off their phones for me (it's ghastly- even though they mean well.  I can only imagine your scenario that day.  Thanks for sharing.  If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?  Feel free to give a range it that's more comfortable. I had read that mostly middle-aged women are susceptible to EHS.

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:46 AM


 



Hi,
Evie wrote:
> As the conference started, the first speaker asked, in deference to anyone present with electro-magnetic sensitivity (I was probably the only one), everyone turn off their phones. I was already feeling quite ill, but when everyone simultaneously turned off their phones, I thought I would die.
>

Unfortunately, when the airplane mode is switched on, the cel phone
makes a call to the tower to tell it it is no longer at this address.

DUH!

So asking people to turn off their phone, results in just the opposite
for a few seconds.

Stewart









     

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Dear Fellow 3 year ES sufferer! Im amazed how many people came down with ES three years ago! Do we blame this on 3G? im from the UK and yes a great deal of middle aged women seem to be effected. Im a middle aged man! So im a sensitive guy!!!
Anyway if you haven't seen this website below already, i found it very helpful to read other peoples advise and stories on their road to recovery, or just understanding ES
ES-UK.info


Good Luck
Giles 40 something! UK
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From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, 20 December, 2010, 1:29















 
 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Stewart,

 

Bless your heart. You had me lmao with this one.  I came down with this EHS about 3 years ago between having gotten a knew cell phone that year (the ungodly i195v Motorola- CNET listed as the number 1 worst SAR rated phone -- discontinued at the time when I bought it.  It was my first phone) and then moving to Newark NJ that December.  I began feeling cell towers first, then WIFI, then other people's phones.  I had always felt the radiating of my phone, but didn't equate the feeling with any type of potential health threat.  I spent many hours on that phone. What a mistake that was!!!

 

But I had to laugh, because I know exactly how you feel when people turn off their phones for me (it's ghastly- even though they mean well.  I can only imagine your scenario that day.  Thanks for sharing.  If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?  Feel free to give a range it that's more comfortable. I had read that mostly middle-aged women are susceptible to EHS.



--- On Thu, 12/16/10, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers

To: [hidden email]

Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:46 AM



 



Hi,

Evie wrote:

> As the conference started, the first speaker asked, in deference to anyone present with electro-magnetic sensitivity (I was probably the only one), everyone turn off their phones. I was already feeling quite ill, but when everyone simultaneously turned off their phones, I thought I would die.

>



Unfortunately, when the airplane mode is switched on, the cel phone

makes a call to the tower to tell it it is no longer at this address.



DUH!



So asking people to turn off their phone, results in just the opposite

for a few seconds.



Stewart



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Pamela,

>  I spent many hours on that phone. What a mistake that was!!!
>  

I nod solemnly.

> But I had to laugh, because I know exactly how you feel when people turn off their phones for me (it's ghastly- even though they mean well.  I can only imagine your scenario that day.  

Laughter is good medicine.

That reminds me of when in 1997 staying at a farm, something happened
and I laughed for what must've been the first time in years since the
24/7 pain started, because the farm owners where I was staying remarked
she had never heard me laugh.

Regarding that day with the phone, yes it caused me pain, and so I
became determined to find out what that i-phone he turned off actually
did. Now with the Acoustimeter, I can hear or record the signals it
sends when going into airplane mode. Quite useful.

> Thanks for sharing.  If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
>  
42
That isn't a secret, as I have given enough clues here over the years on
this board, and on my webpages.
Neither do I have a credit score worth stealing.

Stewart

Thanks Stewart.  I am just familiarizing myself with this site.  I did notice later that you said the experience was from Evie. Have you suffered your entire life? How did you get sick?  Do you know Arthur Firstenberg? I know that he's been sick for over 30 years.  Did you have pre-existing conditions when you came down with EHS? Are you in the US? Sorry for all the questions, I have so many.  You said you have a website.  What is your link?  Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it.  Do you know many men with this condition?  Oh and don't even begin to mention credit rating, brother. I hope to bring laughter. Peace.
Also,feel free to bombard me with questions if you want to.
 
 12/20/10, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 2:10 PM


 



Hi Pamela,

> I spent many hours on that phone. What a mistake that was!!!
>

I nod solemnly.

> But I had to laugh, because I know exactly how you feel when people turn off their phones for me (it's ghastly- even though they mean well. I can only imagine your scenario that day.

Laughter is good medicine.

That reminds me of when in 1997 staying at a farm, something happened
and I laughed for what must've been the first time in years since the
24/7 pain started, because the farm owners where I was staying remarked
she had never heard me laugh.

Regarding that day with the phone, yes it caused me pain, and so I
became determined to find out what that i-phone he turned off actually
did. Now with the Acoustimeter, I can hear or record the signals it
sends when going into airplane mode. Quite useful.

> Thanks for sharing. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
>
42
That isn't a secret, as I have given enough clues here over the years on
this board, and on my webpages.
Neither do I have a credit score worth stealing.

Stewart









     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Pamela,

pamela clemonts wrote:
> I did notice later that you said the experience was from Evie.
Which experience? The one I just wrote about was mine.

>  Have you suffered your entire life?
Not quite. My earliest symptoms were from high school, where I could
_hear_ the apple monitors, some gave out a high-pitch whine. But it
would be another 6 years before I started getting troublesome symptoms.

> How did you get sick?  
This much I have figured out: I grew up too close to BPA powerlines,
where I was downwind of an aluminum plant/refinery, and the Arco oil
refinery. Then when out of school, I worked closely around computers, my
corner office was sprayed for ants, and on the day my 24/7 pain started,
I was installing a computer network in a new office building, right next
to a transformer yard. The place buzzed, so the magnetic fields were
certainly strong. That's the condensed version.

> Do you know Arthur Firstenberg?
no


> Did you have pre-existing conditions when you came down with EHS?
Not really. Only highly sensitive hearing, but it did not bother me.
Also, I suppose the stress I felt for a year beforehand was something I
now recognize as being connected.

> Are you in the US?
Yes, NE WA state.

> Sorry for all the questions, I have so many.
>  
Questions are good, way to learn.

>  You said you have a website.  What is your link?
>  
http://seaHorseCorral.org
You'll probably want to click the About me (and ehs) series first.

>  Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it.  
Sure :)

> Do you know many men with this condition?  
Interestingly enough, I have met a couple others, men yes, who were
looking for property, and when I told them why I moved here, they shared
they have similar problem.

Stewart

>
> > Are you in the US?
> Yes, NE WA state.
>
>
Excuse me, but I can't tell from this exchange if it was Pamela or Stewart who said they lived in NE WA state.  I am thinking of moving to Chewelah, WA can either of you give me some information about that area?  Cell danger?  Thanks,

Marji

Marjij wrote:
>>> Are you in the US?
>>>      
>> Yes, NE WA state.
>>
>>
>>    
> Excuse me, but I can't tell from this exchange if it was Pamela or Stewart who said they lived in NE WA state.
Sorry if it was not clear, I wrote the email, so it was me.

Oh that is clear as mud. I am Stewart typing... and I have lots of
pictures of NE WA on my webpage, so...

>  I am thinking of moving to Chewelah, WA can either of you give me some information about that area?
I've been in that area several times, and have studied the locations of
the hazards.
This summer I drove to Valley for hay, and only two months ago, I drove
Hwy 395 south to Spokane, with the Acoustimeter on the dashboard, and
the audio plugged into the truck radio/CD-in. Makes a nifty hands free
setup.

Starting in Colville, they just put up a new tower across from the
Walmart, so downtown is now very very bad. There are 3 towers on the
hill 1 mile north on Colville Mtn, and another tower 2 Mi SE on
Huckleberry Range Paradis Peak.
Also the local AM radio tower is 1 Mi. south in the valley floor.
I wrote down 0.54 V/m for Colville on the Acoustimeter, and on the
Cornet, 0.258 mW/m2 outside the Walmart, and 4.807 mW/m2 inside Walmart,
nearest the check out computers using WiFi, and the shelfing workers
with their WiFi scanners. Avoid them like a plague! That is very much in
the red zone.
(I have a conversion table on my webpage.)

Heading south 6 miles is Arden, and from here south it is actually
fairly quiet for the next 8 miles to Addy, <0.02 V/m. Then I started
picking up a cel-tower again.
I located it when passing Blue Creek intersection 3 Mi south of Addy,
there is a new tower just west 3/4 mile on the hill just opposite  of,  
(south of) Rieckers Mtn. It was not there last year. I didn't write down
any numbers, as I was on the highway, and didn't aim the meter at the tower.

Continuing southeast, 5 Mi to Chewelah, the tower west of Chewelah
becomes visible, and audible as the whine grows steadily. It is on the
first hill west of the valley, but I can't remember which hill that was.
Maybe Pine Hill. It looks like I forgot to update my map after that last
trip... I think it is less than 2 years old.
Downtown Chewelah, I wrote down 0.34 V/m. Only in the yellow zone.
Fairly small bubble in radius. Worry more about the above tower than
downtown stuff.
South 1 mile, I got a large spike near the casino on the east side of
Hwy395. I looked around hard, but couldn't see any towers to explain it.
I didn't write down any numbers, but it was memorable.
The next several miles past Jumpoff Joe Mtn, it is fairly quiet again,
<0.02 V/m, as the surrounding hills provide good shading. I also found
it fairly quiet south of Valley to Springdale where I got hay this year.

Approaching Loon Lake, there is a tower on top of Deer Lake Mtn, east
one mile of Hwy. From here south, there is no "quiet" on the meter, it
is always buzzing and whining, with the intensity going up and down
between towers etc.
Approaching Clayton, I started picking up the radar from Spokane
Airport, I noted 0.69 V/m at Clayton, every 11 seconds.
 From there south, the number of towers increase as you (or I) approach
Spokane.
There are 2 towers very close to, and in Deer Park. Right next to the
Hwy. 0.87 V/m getting deep into the red zone again at the peak nearest
those towers.

Driving through Spokane is one tower after another, 2 V/m.
One other measurement to share for Spokane, passing the Sears building
on Division St, opposite a tall banking building, it has many antennas
on top, I measured 4.07 V/m. That is seriously bad, and it really hurt.

Back north to Chewelah, back in summer, when dad drove west with me on
the Cedona-Addy Rd, I found the radio tower, and other towers on top of
Stensgar Mtn blanketed that valley just to the north, I remember it
showing up on my Zap Checker, but less so on the others. Acted more like
an analog wave than a digital noisemaker.  Dad thought those valleys
might provide good protection from Spokane, with a warmer growing
climate than here, but it didn't pan out. Second place he thought might
work is a bit north in Swiss Valley. I was not feeling well enough to
get excited about more exploring.

I was pleasantly surprised to find those 2 quieter areas. The thing that
bothers me about moving to Arden-Addy or Valley-Springdale, is it is
more populated than here. But with several neighbors here broadcasting
WiFi, the numerical statistic of 2 people per sq. mile just isn't what
it used to be.

Looks like I wrote a short book. Hope you find it educational, and helpful.
Stewart

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:
>
> Looks like I wrote a short book. Hope you find it educational, and helpful.
> Stewart

AWESOME BOOK!  Thank you Stewart!  I will forward it to my kids who live in Chewelah, and take all your knowledge under advisement.  Now if you could just make the bitter cold go away I just might join you in NW WA !  It's quite a switch from San Diego! Thanks a million,

Marji

This is for Marjij,
 
 Hi thanks for replying to my question. Let me see if I get this right: Stewart is in NE WA.  Where

--- On Wed, 12/22/10, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 2:44 AM


 



Marjij wrote:
>>> Are you in the US?
>>>
>> Yes, NE WA state.
>>
>>
>>
> Excuse me, but I can't tell from this exchange if it was Pamela or Stewart who said they lived in NE WA state.
Sorry if it was not clear, I wrote the email, so it was me.

Oh that is clear as mud. I am Stewart typing... and I have lots of
pictures of NE WA on my webpage, so...

> I am thinking of moving to Chewelah, WA can either of you give me some information about that area?
I've been in that area several times, and have studied the locations of
the hazards.
This summer I drove to Valley for hay, and only two months ago, I drove
Hwy 395 south to Spokane, with the Acoustimeter on the dashboard, and
the audio plugged into the truck radio/CD-in. Makes a nifty hands free
setup.

Starting in Colville, they just put up a new tower across from the
Walmart, so downtown is now very very bad. There are 3 towers on the
hill 1 mile north on Colville Mtn, and another tower 2 Mi SE on
Huckleberry Range Paradis Peak.
Also the local AM radio tower is 1 Mi. south in the valley floor.
I wrote down 0.54 V/m for Colville on the Acoustimeter, and on the
Cornet, 0.258 mW/m2 outside the Walmart, and 4.807 mW/m2 inside Walmart,
nearest the check out computers using WiFi, and the shelfing workers
with their WiFi scanners. Avoid them like a plague! That is very much in
the red zone.
(I have a conversion table on my webpage.)

Heading south 6 miles is Arden, and from here south it is actually
fairly quiet for the next 8 miles to Addy, <0.02 V/m. Then I started
picking up a cel-tower again.
I located it when passing Blue Creek intersection 3 Mi south of Addy,
there is a new tower just west 3/4 mile on the hill just opposite of,
(south of) Rieckers Mtn. It was not there last year. I didn't write down
any numbers, as I was on the highway, and didn't aim the meter at the tower.

Continuing southeast, 5 Mi to Chewelah, the tower west of Chewelah
becomes visible, and audible as the whine grows steadily. It is on the
first hill west of the valley, but I can't remember which hill that was.
Maybe Pine Hill. It looks like I forgot to update my map after that last
trip... I think it is less than 2 years old.
Downtown Chewelah, I wrote down 0.34 V/m. Only in the yellow zone.
Fairly small bubble in radius. Worry more about the above tower than
downtown stuff.
South 1 mile, I got a large spike near the casino on the east side of
Hwy395. I looked around hard, but couldn't see any towers to explain it.
I didn't write down any numbers, but it was memorable.
The next several miles past Jumpoff Joe Mtn, it is fairly quiet again,
<0.02 V/m, as the surrounding hills provide good shading. I also found
it fairly quiet south of Valley to Springdale where I got hay this year.

Approaching Loon Lake, there is a tower on top of Deer Lake Mtn, east
one mile of Hwy. From here south, there is no "quiet" on the meter, it
is always buzzing and whining, with the intensity going up and down
between towers etc.
Approaching Clayton, I started picking up the radar from Spokane
Airport, I noted 0.69 V/m at Clayton, every 11 seconds.
From there south, the number of towers increase as you (or I) approach
Spokane.
There are 2 towers very close to, and in Deer Park. Right next to the
Hwy. 0.87 V/m getting deep into the red zone again at the peak nearest
those towers.

Driving through Spokane is one tower after another, 2 V/m.
One other measurement to share for Spokane, passing the Sears building
on Division St, opposite a tall banking building, it has many antennas
on top, I measured 4.07 V/m. That is seriously bad, and it really hurt.

Back north to Chewelah, back in summer, when dad drove west with me on
the Cedona-Addy Rd, I found the radio tower, and other towers on top of
Stensgar Mtn blanketed that valley just to the north, I remember it
showing up on my Zap Checker, but less so on the others. Acted more like
an analog wave than a digital noisemaker. Dad thought those valleys
might provide good protection from Spokane, with a warmer growing
climate than here, but it didn't pan out. Second place he thought might
work is a bit north in Swiss Valley. I was not feeling well enough to
get excited about more exploring.

I was pleasantly surprised to find those 2 quieter areas. The thing that
bothers me about moving to Arden-Addy or Valley-Springdale, is it is
more populated than here. But with several neighbors here broadcasting
WiFi, the numerical statistic of 2 people per sq. mile just isn't what
it used to be.

Looks like I wrote a short book. Hope you find it educational, and helpful.
Stewart









     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi, Loni,
 
I have this flagged, so I guess I missed answering it before Christmas!  As to how *I* knew it was a Wimax tower instead of a regular one....  I don't know for sure.  It puts out much greater intensity frequencies than all the rest--many times more intense.  Also you can feel it much further away.  But the other cell towers do vary in intensity of signals.  They just vary in a much less intense way.
 
Hope you are well,
Diane

--- On Fri, 12/17/10, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 10:30 AM


 



Hi Diane!
 
Thanks for that info! So how do I find out if there is a Wimax antenna near by?
 
I wish my towers were miles away not that any of it's good. I've got the antennas at the High School not even a quarter of a mile away & then the tower at the library which is about a half a mile away. Then there are several all around me all directions.
 
I can see the antennas out my back window that are very close & I, too, like you have put up trees to block some of it. Taking too darn long to grow however.
 
I would like to know the strength of the antennas. With the addition of smart meters I just need to get the hell outa dodge! 
 
Loni
 
 
 
 

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:47 PM

 

Hi, Stewart and Loni,
 
Thanks for all the info you have been sharing on this thread, Stewart.  I had not realized that cell phone strength increased the further away you are from the tower.  I do not use a cell phone, but that does explain some reactions I've experienced with others' phones.
 
Loni, in our area, towers are all different strengths (I live in a mostly mountainous area).  We have one that seems to be a WiMax--way stronger than all the rest; It radiates from a high mountain-side for great distances; I avoid even going in that vacinity.  Then, depending on topography, other towers are lesser intensity, but vary a great deal in strengths.  Also, when it is particularly rainy or snowy, the emfs on all the towers are increased, as well.  Also I think you are asking whether some towers put out different types of frequencies than other towers?  This seems the case here also.  Not all towers are strictly cell towers. 
 
So at our house, we have one tower out the side window of our livingroom about 2 miles away.  I can barely feel it.  But we have another tower (not the WiMax) out our back diningroom patio doors which is, I think, 3 1/2 miles away (nearly twice as far), but it feels twice the strength of the closer one inside our house.  (I would love to own a rocket launcher--it would be dead meat!  lol)  Instead I am busy adding pine trees at the back of our property.  A new tower is also being erected in that same vacinity, so I hope it is not going to be as strong!  In the summer, trees help shield the towers alot, but in winter, I have to use emf shielding fabric to line drapes.  (I velcro it to the tops of the drapes.)
 
Diane

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From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] cell phone towers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:57 AM

 

Loni wrote:
> Are you saying there is a difference in what the antennas do on the towers or just about distance & strength difference? Loni
>

I am not sure how much the towers vary their output depending on the
distance of the remote cel-phone. That will need an engineer closer to
the technology to answer. As far as I'm concerned, they are always
"shouting."

To the second half of your question, if I understand you correctly, the
answer is no. I had two things in mind:
For the tower side, it is more important to increase your distance, to
get the strength lower.
For the cel-phone side, when the tower is farther away, the cel-phone
must increase it's transmitting power to be heard. So it becomes just as
important to have fewer cel-phones around you.

Stewart

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Hi,

I was doing a search in the messages on "Wimax" and saw this thread, and wanted to share info on how to detect info about RF antenna.

You can check if Clearwire has a wimax antenna nearby by going to their site and searching for your address.   www.clear.com/coverage
Coverage is indicated by a green color and the antennas are white and hard to see.

Also, using www.antennasearch.com, you can input your address and see the nearby towers and antennas....   in the antenna list, you can click on each antenna and see its frequency.  

I'm new to this forum, from a Minneapolis, MN suburb, and live 1200 feet from a city water tower that has over 40 cell antennas and 4-5 microwave antenna which are broadcasting at 23 Ghz - ouch.   The microwaves were put up this fall, part of the Wimax rollout.  I'm electrosensitive - symptoms are burning and tingling throughout my body...  

I, too, am considering leaving this area to escape the 24 hour irradiation....

Hope this info helps....

Debbi





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