cell phone blocking paint

Just heard about this on the radio tonight. I'd paint the inside of my
car I think if ever I can get some.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060301-015410-7150r 

"What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them,
or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These
calls need to get through."

Fear mongers... what if the world were going to end?
Andrew
On Mar 6, 2006, at 2:48 AM, snoshoe_2 wrote:

Yes, the quote seems to miss the point, doesn't it! If you have severe ES
you can't use mobile phones anyway. And although they are very convenient
for many people, the world did seem to rub along OK without them up till
10-20 years ago (even if one had to leave a landline contact number for the
babysitter). The choice on whether to have local blocking (in your car) is
entirely personal and doesn't affect anyone else.
Ian

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"What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them,
or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These
calls need to get through."

Fear mongers... what if the world were going to end?
Andrew
On Mar 6, 2006, at 2:48 AM, snoshoe_2 wrote:



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It is utterly nonsense for applying such paint in your car.

Do you really think that the rf radiation will stop at the windows?
And it is not allowed to put anything against the glass.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Kemp" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:49
Subject: RE: [eSens] cell phone blocking paint

from reading the article, it seems no different than already available
shielding paints.
The simply are using additonal receiving/transmtting equipment to convey the
signal through the painted wall, when they want to allow it through.

Additonally, what will happen to the signals of cellphone INSIDE the
shielded area, when they boost up to maximum power because they cannot
connect to the tower? It will reflect off this shield over and over until it
is completely absorbed by the occupants of the space.

Emil



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Subject: [eSens] cell phone blocking paint

Is there an affordable way to paint my mobile home with exterior reflective pain?. I'm going to have to paint it eventually.
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from reading the article, it seems no different than already available
shielding paints.
The simply are using additonal receiving/transmtting equipment to convey the
signal through the painted wall, when they want to allow it through.

Additonally, what will happen to the signals of cellphone INSIDE the
shielded area, when they boost up to maximum power because they cannot
connect to the tower? It will reflect off this shield over and over until it
is completely absorbed by the occupants of the space.

Emil



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Hello,

there is a paint by Yshield called Fassade, especially for outside.
See www.priggen.com

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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----- Original Message -----
From: "straitguy" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 21:36
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I just love your kind, uplifting words Charles. I'm sure we all
appreciate them. Glass by the way, does prevent some radiations, and
yes you can put things on your glass, the outward opacity depending
on where you live.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

I am sorry, but I do not agree.

The metal surfaces of a car shield in a way, like a cage of Faraday.
The weak parts are the glass windows.
Many years ago, they placed transparent films on the windows (like we are
using on window panes inside houses) but that is strictly forbidden.
That is for the front window and the two side windows.
Nothing is allowed that may obstruct the sight, or is different from the
carmakers original.
The windows in the back do not fall under these regulations.

Last month, somebody in the Hague (Netherlands) got a fine, because he had a
routeplanner before his frontwindow.
The policemen were the opinion, thet it blocked the neccesary view!

That the metal surface of a car shields can be seen, that a mobile radiates
more in order to maintain contact with a base station.
Therefore an outside antenne for the mobile phone is recommended.

In Germany they did measurements of RF radiation inside an autobus.

Btw. in the article about the paint it was not clear how they would let som
signals pass and others stopped.
Overhere we do have signals from about 900 MHz, 1800 MHz and 2150 MHz, so
the paint must shield a great band of frequencies.
In my opinion, they can only make it work when they place just one defined
transmitter somewhere in the hall.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "snoshoe_2" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 03:38
Subject: [eSens] Re: cell phone blocking paint

Lighten up there. You might consider a joke when it's being made.
A sense of humor is better for health than anything. :)

But thanks for all the extra info. too.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>
> I am sorry, but I do not agree.
>
> The metal surfaces of a car shield in a way, like a cage of Faraday.
> The weak parts are the glass windows.
> Many years ago, they placed transparent films on the windows (like
we are
> using on window panes inside houses) but that is strictly forbidden.
> That is for the front window and the two side windows.
> Nothing is allowed that may obstruct the sight, or is different
from the
> carmakers original.
> The windows in the back do not fall under these regulations.
>
> Last month, somebody in the Hague (Netherlands) got a fine, because
he had a
> routeplanner before his frontwindow.
> The policemen were the opinion, thet it blocked the neccesary view!
>
> That the metal surface of a car shields can be seen, that a mobile
radiates
> more in order to maintain contact with a base station.
> Therefore an outside antenne for the mobile phone is recommended.
>
> In Germany they did measurements of RF radiation inside an autobus.
>
> Btw. in the article about the paint it was not clear how they would
let som
> signals pass and others stopped.
> Overhere we do have signals from about 900 MHz, 1800 MHz and 2150
MHz, so
> the paint must shield a great band of frequencies.
> In my opinion, they can only make it work when they place just one
defined
> transmitter somewhere in the hall.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
>