baking soda

> ACV contains chromium which can alter insulin levels in Diabetics
>
> I was going to read this link, until I saw the above statement.
> In natural health, Chromium is often given to PREVENT DIABETES!

It still alters insulin levels, which means someone who is
injecting themselves with insulin needs to be aware that they
may need to inject LESS insulin if they are using apple
cider vinegar...

Seems like a responsible (and correct) statement to make.

Marc

> Pl.S. I don't know what the heck that CAlcium Montmo ect what ever it is..
> I've got 17,000 hrs of study into natural health...and I can honestly say
> "that" form? I've never heard of. Usually, the rule is, if ya can't pronounce the
> word, its a chemical of some kind.

It's a type of clay -- not a chemical.

Marc

Here's the question: what is clay doing in a calcium supplement-
and as to insulin; actually - that is an excellent point.
Lizzie
 



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> Pl.S. I don't know what the heck that CAlcium Montmo ect what ever it is..
> I've got 17,000 hrs of study into natural health...and I can honestly say
> "that" form? I've never heard of. Usually, the rule is, if ya can't pronounce the
> word, its a chemical of some kind.

It's a type of clay -- not a chemical.

Marc



     

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> Here's the question: what is clay doing in a calcium supplement

It's not like there is "clay" in a "calcium supplement".  It
is simply "clay":

  http://www.i-amperfectlyhealthy.com/simoncohen.html

Marc

Hmm, I don't think I would do it if it tastes nasty!  Loni

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Hmm..have either of you ever tried using Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar?
This gift from nature helps with low acid, is natural, is loaded with enzymes-
and usually when low acid conditions in the stomach are there, it means
there's not enough enyzmes.
No, it doesn't "taste" very well. But it has been used for decades with
great success.
There are many people who are very sensitive, and its common for people
to blame the substance, when its an imbalance that is the problem.
Very common when people's systems are highly acidic, to have reactions.
That 's why its important to start with low low doses. You can't change the
body's PH over night. It takes time, attention to diet, and I think too, its
better for some to do on an empty stomach. Bragg's book says people with
digestive problems, to take a tablespoon of the
raw apple cider vinegar ``10-15 min before they eat. It is quite SOUR..
we call it "the mouth waker upper!
Lizzie
P.S. Raw Apple Cider vinegar is also loaded with Postassium. This is
important for electrolyte balance, and it helps with energy issues.
There are many "natural" remedies, substances that are non-toxic,
have been around for ages, aren't expensive, don't add to the body's
toxic overload..and do help with health issues. *And you don't have to
order them on-line, both the ARm & Hammer baking soda and the Bragg's raw apple cider
vinegar are easily available at the local store.



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> I had a reaction w stomach pain after a few weeks too.
> Maybe we have low stomach acid Mark.

Probably -- I've found that if I use CELLFOOD drops in water, my digestion
is very happy. And straight CELLFOOD is *really* acidic (pH < 1).

Of course, drinking acidic drops in water will eventually erode your teeth
and give you lots of cavities... it seems that every "solution" creates a
new problem...

Marc



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Yes this PH thing sounds very tricky and could cause a myriad of problems if you mess with it. Loni

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First, this is just one part of a health protocal, that includes eating cleaner food (no pesticides), eating some raw veggies, drinking the cleanest water one can, ect.
Second, as some are very sensitive, a suggestion is to start LOW...1/8 of a teaspoon in 5 -6 oz of filtered water...see how you feel. It may make you feel FULL and uncomfortable, usually it helps if you get the burp out, this can also happen when the body is highly acidic...IF the body is very acidic, low 6's, or lower...remember, it takes time.
And there are many things that can lower the body's PH, processed foods are one, wireless radiation is another, and there are more. Even being around toxic people can lower the PH, and having a bad day, negative thinking is also said to be acidic. Do some tests of your own. Take your PH when you are in a happy mood..take your PH when you are having a rough mood day....Take you PH when you are doing something you love!
Then gradually increase the dose, from 1/8 to `1/4 to a half of teaspoon...some can handle a half a teaspoon, I can handle a tablespoon, but I started low and built up.
Of course you can use more water..8 oz if fine.
I myself take this sometimes 3 times a day....before I eat...always before going to the stores....when I get back....and before bed.
It's a good idea to use the PH testing strips so that you can tell what your PH is.
And remember that some people feel their best not at 8, but at 7.25, or it could be 7.5...so experiment and find when you're feeling reallly good, take your PH!
When you're feeling crappy....take your PH..this makes it much more customized to YOUR body.
I've had friends who had the flu or a bad cold, and they told me (amazed) that the bAking Soda worked very fast and were amazed at how much better they felt.
I think its because the flu really means a very low PH. Just my working theory. The flu is the body becoming way too acidic.
Let me know what you find. You just might be amazed yourself, at how a simple and inexpensive thing like Baking Soda can help the body.
Lizzie


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How often do you have to drink this to stay alkaline & how much do you add to say 8 oz of water.

Loni

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I've gotten so used to it....it is slightly salty.
In the beginning, i used to squeeze some lemon juice in it...it does make it taste better-
but warning: use a tall glass...it will FZZ like soda pop!
Lizzie

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A little salty, but otherwise not much of a taste.

Kathy
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How does it taste Lizzie

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What do you mean "if you mess  with it?"
because if someone's PH is acidic, not raising that PH spells disaster for health.
**See link below.
Disease/ill health can only thrive in an acidic PH. Cancer cells/tumors are always
found to be acidic. Inflammation equals acidic PH.
Yes, I agree, it can be tricky. It does take time, attention and dedication.
In the beginning, I thought, oh geez, another thing to have to pay attention to.
So I pretty much blew it off. Then later on, after trying a bunch of products that'
were supposed to help raise the PH....expensive, didn't work...I threw my hands up.
A little later, I kept running into articles on how important the PH was. Like some
power/ force (whatever you want to call it)  was putting this stuff in my face...hey, you, wake up.
So I decided to take another look. That's when I found the info from Mark Sircus,
and at the same time, found info that said wireless radiation makes the blood
acidic. So I started trying the Baking Soda...small amts at a time.
I don't remember how long it took before I stopped getting that yucky feeling
of having a burp stuck..I do know I kept at it because I did notice a difference.
My PH back then was pretty low....it took quite awhile to get it to move UP.
I did find, that getting rid of all the wireless in my house, and reducing my
exposure- while keeping up with the Baking Soda, made a huge difference
in my PH. This was right when I connected the dots to the ES stuff.
I read tons of stuff...and decided to simplify. I do the bAking Soda, and
I put raw veggies (cukes, zucchini, peppers) on my plate with cooked
foods....I take raw garlic, crush it, mix it with organic Olive Oil, and
put it on my raw veggies ( raw garlic has a PH of: 13+). Beef is -34/ chicken is
-18 to -22
 on the acid scale. Fresh Cucumbers are: +31--
I took the food combining and made it as easy for me as I could.
I just do the zucchini/cukes with the raw garlic....to offset the cooked
foods.
The point is: it doesn't have to be hard. I keep a bowl of crushed garlic
with the olive oil in my fridge. Meals, 2 out of 3, always include something
RAW. I don't count the acid/alkaline anymore...I just make sure I have
zuccini/cukes/peppers with raw garlic. For me, I feel better eating
this way. All I can say is, try it- or don't. But how will you know if
it works or makes you feel better, if ya don't try it?
And one meal isn't usually enough. Although I did feel a difference,
and one meal was enough for me to say: Hey, maybe there
is something to this stuff!
Lizzie
 


Alkalize or Die by Ted Baroody  

www.ionizers.org/alkalizeordie.html
 
 

 



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Yes this PH thing sounds very tricky and could cause a myriad of problems if you mess with it. Loni

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Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 9:46 AM

 

First, this is just one part of a health protocal, that includes eating cleaner food (no pesticides), eating some raw veggies, drinking the cleanest water one can, ect.
Second, as some are very sensitive, a suggestion is to start LOW...1/8 of a teaspoon in 5 -6 oz of filtered water...see how you feel. It may make you feel FULL and uncomfortable, usually it helps if you get the burp out, this can also happen when the body is highly acidic...IF the body is very acidic, low 6's, or lower...remember, it takes time.
And there are many things that can lower the body's PH, processed foods are one, wireless radiation is another, and there are more. Even being around toxic people can lower the PH, and having a bad day, negative thinking is also said to be acidic. Do some tests of your own. Take your PH when you are in a happy mood..take your PH when you are having a rough mood day....Take you PH when you are doing something you love!
Then gradually increase the dose, from 1/8 to `1/4 to a half of teaspoon...some can handle a half a teaspoon, I can handle a tablespoon, but I started low and built up.
Of course you can use more water..8 oz if fine.
I myself take this sometimes 3 times a day....before I eat...always before going to the stores....when I get back....and before bed.
It's a good idea to use the PH testing strips so that you can tell what your PH is.
And remember that some people feel their best not at 8, but at 7.25, or it could be 7.5...so experiment and find when you're feeling reallly good, take your PH!
When you're feeling crappy....take your PH..this makes it much more customized to YOUR body.
I've had friends who had the flu or a bad cold, and they told me (amazed) that the bAking Soda worked very fast and were amazed at how much better they felt.
I think its because the flu really means a very low PH. Just my working theory. The flu is the body becoming way too acidic.
Let me know what you find. You just might be amazed yourself, at how a simple and inexpensive thing like Baking Soda can help the body.
Lizzie

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How often do you have to drink this to stay alkaline & how much do you add to say 8 oz of water.

Loni

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Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 6:11 PM

I've gotten so used to it....it is slightly salty.
In the beginning, i used to squeeze some lemon juice in it...it does make it taste better-
but warning: use a tall glass...it will FZZ like soda pop!
Lizzie

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A little salty, but otherwise not much of a taste.

Kathy
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How does it taste Lizzie

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> What do you mean "if you mess  with it?"
> because if someone's PH is acidic, not raising that PH spells disaster for health.

First I think Loni would need to establish that her pH *is* acidic...

Loni, do you have pH paper?  Can you check and see what the
pH of your saliva is?  I think you're supposed to check this
first thing in the morning, when you haven't eaten or drank
anything for awhile.

Marc

I have checked it before and wasn't an issue really.  After your commentary on PH Marc it just seems like it would be dangerous to mess with your PH with Baking Soda unless you really know what you are doing and know what your PH is? That's all.
 
I eat a healthy diet for the most part but do consume meats. I think it might be a good idea to stick with diet to ensure proper ph rather than baking soda. Like you said the digestive track should be acidic.
 
Loni

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> What do you mean "if you mess with it?"
> because if someone's PH is acidic, not raising that PH spells disaster for health.

First I think Loni would need to establish that her pH *is* acidic...

Loni, do you have pH paper? Can you check and see what the
pH of your saliva is? I think you're supposed to check this
first thing in the morning, when you haven't eaten or drank
anything for awhile.

Marc







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Marc, what do you take for your thyroid?
I have ACV Capsules because I can't handle the liquid but I don't take it every day, only when my stomach acts up or feel clogged.
They added iodine to salt because of iodine deficiency and since everyone uses salt it was an easy delivery system. I've never heard it was added because salt causes an iodine deficiency. Gotta disagree with that author on that one.
Steve

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> Marc, what do you take for your thyroid?

It varies... :-)

At a minimum, I put some drops of Nascent Iodine on my skin.

When I had major problems, the one supplement that really helped me
tremendously was "Thyro-Zyme" by Apex Energetics.

I've tried "Thytropin PMG" by Standard Process, but that makes me
woozy/dizzy.

And I've got a bottle of "Raw Thyroid" by Natural Sources that is
just waiting to be tried out... :-)

And yes, I also think iodine was added to salt because of widespread
iodine deficiencies.  But all of the old folk remedies that included
apple cider vinegar also included iodine at the same time, but I guess
that detail has been forgotten in more modern times...

Marc