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xyzjmt
Hi,

A couple of questions I would appreciate any help with:

1. I was wondering if there is any good research available on how electrosensitive people get affected by electricity e.g. what does it do in terms of biochemistry that causes people to display the characteristic symptoms?
2. Also I know there is a recommended safe level for exposure to electricalinfrastructure e.g. pylons, at least in my country, but I was wondering does this mean that there is a higher level of electricity that affects all people and is there any understanding on how this happens?
3. When some people say electrosensitivity is psychological,i.e. based on mistaken associations between a person's symptoms and their exposure to EMFs, does this only apply when there are visible sources of EMFs to which theperson could attribute their symptoms?

Thanks,
Jodie

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emraware
Hi Jodie:

Here's a good scientific resource:
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/patphy/issues/content\
s?issue_key=S0928-4680%2809%29X0003-9

For EHS, we need to consider 3 possible sources:
(1) From microwave technology (Wi-Fi, DECT, cell tower, radar, etc.)
which transmits in the air. (RF-EMF)
(2) From AC magnetic fields, which can be measured by Trifield Meter or
other gaussmeter (ELF-EMF)
(3) From intermediate frequencies on power lines (dirty electricity),
which eventually emanates into the air, which can be measured by Graham
Stetzer meter. See http://www.electricalpollution.com and
http://www.magdahavas.com

Columbia University Scientist Martin Blank has found that both AC
magnetic fields and microwaves cause a cellular stress response. He
says, this means, it's probably not a thermal effect. Effects happen
without heating. Professor Magda Havas at Trent U., Canada, has found
that dirty electricity causes a huge range of problems also in school
teachers.

For your research, you can check the following links:
1. Science: Effects on calcium-efflux, neurotransmitters, free radicals,
mast cells (immune system), etc.
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/science.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/science_details.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/powerline.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/links_sci.php

2. Effects by Power / Distance : At higher levels of microwaves, a lot
of people are affected
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/standards.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/distance.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/tableofeffects.php - Effects by
power

3. Psychology:
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/symptoms.php: There is a
scientific basis for symptoms and survey studies in many countries to
confirm it
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/myth.php : It's claimed that
double-blind studies couldn't find an association, but those studies are
flawed

--- In [hidden email], "xyzjmt" <xyzjmt@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> A couple of questions I would appreciate any help with:
>
> 1. I was wondering if there is any good research available on how
electrosensitive people get affected by electricity e.g. what does it do
in terms of biochemistry that causes people to display the
characteristic symptoms?
> 2. Also I know there is a recommended safe level for exposure to
electrical infrastructure e.g. pylons, at least in my country, but I was
wondering does this mean that there is a higher level of electricity
that affects all people and is there any understanding on how this
happens?
> 3. When some people say electrosensitivity is psychological,i.e. based
on mistaken associations between a person's symptoms and their exposure
to EMFs, does this only apply when there are visible sources of EMFs to
which the person could attribute their symptoms?
>
> Thanks,
> Jodie
>

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Re: any research on how electricity affects ES people?

charles-4
Hello,

there are more elektrosmog sources.
I have mentioned them on the english pages of my homepage.

But since these english pages are hardly read, I do not update them anymore.

It is *pearls for the swine.*

Many foreigners do not realize, that clicking on an english flag on a website, the language changes into english.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton




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From: emraware
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Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: any research on how electricity affects ES people?


Hi Jodie:

Here's a good scientific resource:
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/patphy/issues/content\
s?issue_key=S0928-4680%2809%29X0003-9

For EHS, we need to consider 3 possible sources:
(1) From microwave technology (Wi-Fi, DECT, cell tower, radar, etc.)
which transmits in the air. (RF-EMF)
(2) From AC magnetic fields, which can be measured by Trifield Meter or
other gaussmeter (ELF-EMF)
(3) From intermediate frequencies on power lines (dirty electricity),
which eventually emanates into the air, which can be measured by Graham
Stetzer meter. See http://www.electricalpollution.com and
http://www.magdahavas.com

Columbia University Scientist Martin Blank has found that both AC
magnetic fields and microwaves cause a cellular stress response. He
says, this means, it's probably not a thermal effect. Effects happen
without heating. Professor Magda Havas at Trent U., Canada, has found
that dirty electricity causes a huge range of problems also in school
teachers.

For your research, you can check the following links:
1. Science: Effects on calcium-efflux, neurotransmitters, free radicals,
mast cells (immune system), etc.
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/science.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/science_details.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/powerline.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/links_sci.php

2. Effects by Power / Distance : At higher levels of microwaves, a lot
of people are affected
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/standards.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/distance.php
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/tableofeffects.php - Effects by
power

3. Psychology:
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/symptoms.php: There is a
scientific basis for symptoms and survey studies in many countries to
confirm it
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/myth.php : It's claimed that
double-blind studies couldn't find an association, but those studies are
flawed

--- In [hidden email], "xyzjmt" <xyzjmt@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> A couple of questions I would appreciate any help with:
>
> 1. I was wondering if there is any good research available on how
electrosensitive people get affected by electricity e.g. what does it do
in terms of biochemistry that causes people to display the
characteristic symptoms?
> 2. Also I know there is a recommended safe level for exposure to
electrical infrastructure e.g. pylons, at least in my country, but I was
wondering does this mean that there is a higher level of electricity
that affects all people and is there any understanding on how this
happens?
> 3. When some people say electrosensitivity is psychological,i.e. based
on mistaken associations between a person's symptoms and their exposure
to EMFs, does this only apply when there are visible sources of EMFs to
which the person could attribute their symptoms?
>
> Thanks,
> Jodie
>




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Healthgal
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This link didn't work. I would like to read the research.

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emraware
Please check: "The biology of ES"
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/library/downloads/es_4_biology-20091215.pdf

This paper contains an analysis on the shortcomings of Provocation studies (page 7/8)

Powerwatch has a pretty good library of articles, you can check those out too:
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/library/