I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure.com and
give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems to have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to hear from you. -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Paul,
I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspectof my life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel http://www.anatbanielmethod.com/. Anat was Moshe's student. After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back madesense to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to thinking it possible. I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this workon ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or so I think. Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of MCS. Mmm did I say at least... Sandra --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email], [hidden email] Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems to have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to hear from you. -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it also? Hmmm, save us $1,000.
I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote: From: S.T. <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM Hi Paul, I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspectof my life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back madesense to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to thinking it possible. I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this workon ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or so I think. Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of MCS. Mmm did I say at least... Sandra --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems to have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to hear from you. -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Loni I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most plasticof organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see what Ithink [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear that youhave to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is going on there??? Best wishes Steph --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Loni <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM Hi Paul, I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspectof my life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back madesense to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to thinking it possible. I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this workon ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or so I think. Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of MCS. Mmm did I say at least... Sandra --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems to have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to hear from you. -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by
the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big question for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Hi Loni > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > going on there??? > > Best wishes > > Steph > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <[hidden email] <loni326%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <[hidden email] <loni326%40yahoo.com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > Hi Paul, > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > thinking it possible. > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or > so I think. > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > Sandra > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > to > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > hear from you. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Steph,
No clue about the soar throat but we all react differently. I have sooooo many health problems due to this inability to detox that it just sounds liketo good to be true that you could rewire your brain in a matter of days & be all better. I think I am going to try NAET first & look further in to the brain rewiring. Money is so tight to really do anything you know. And knowing that without spending a dime I could get better & have quality of life if I could live in a small fresh town with very few cell towers! Sad for us! Loni --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:16 AM Hi Loni I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most plasticof organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see what Ithink [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear that youhave to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is going on there??? Best wishes Steph --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM Hi Paul, I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspectof my life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back madesense to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to thinking it possible. I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this workon ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or so I think. Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of MCS. Mmm did I say at least... Sandra --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems to have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to hear from you. -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Paul,
So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big question for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: > > > > Hi Loni > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > going on there??? > > Best wishes > > Steph > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > Hi Paul, > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > thinking it possible. > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or > so I think. > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > Sandra > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > to > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > hear from you. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one?
J. --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Loni <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM Paul, So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big question for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: > > > > Hi Loni > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > going on there??? > > Best wishes > > Steph > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > Hi Paul, > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > thinking it possible. > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or > so I think. > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > Sandra > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > to > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > hear from you. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I came across this 'amygdala retraining' program for $190 for a set of DVDs
- it sounds similar to the 'dynamic neural retraining' that Annie is doing - mainlyl for CFS but also basic mechanism mentions CFS... http://www.guptaprogramme.com/html/explainCFS.asp On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Wolf Man <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? > > J. > > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <[hidden email] <loni326%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <[hidden email] <loni326%40yahoo.com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > Paul, > > > > So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya > debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it > were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have > some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM > > > > According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by > > the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally > > I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, > > whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the > big > > question for me. > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Loni > > > > > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > > > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > > > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other > problems > > > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and > detoxification > > > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > > > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 > is > > > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel > to > > > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > > > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times > I > > > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my > parents > > > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > > > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the > computer > > > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use > the > > > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > > > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > > > going on there??? > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > > > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > > > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > > > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > > > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > > > > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > > > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > > > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > > > > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of > my > > > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > > > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > > > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > > > > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > > > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > > > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > > > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > > > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. > LOL. > > > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > > > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did > exercises > > > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > > > > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made > sense > > > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > > > > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > > > thinking it possible. > > > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work > is > > > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > > > > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this > work > > > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > > > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around > them"...or > > > so I think. > > > > > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others > who > > > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > > > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > > > > > Sandra > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > > > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com > and > > > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > > > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > > > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > > > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem > is > > > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > > > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > > > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > > > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > > > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any > health > > > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > > > to > > > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > > > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > > > hear from you. > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Coffman > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
the problem is, how to watch any dvds whan you have emfsens, i can do it for 5 minutes and thats it
--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 10:17 PM I came across this 'amygdala retraining' program for $190for a set of DVDs - it sounds similar to the 'dynamic neural retraining' that Annie is doing - mainlyl for CFS but also basic mechanism mentions CFS... http://www.guptapro gramme.com/ html/explainCFS. asp On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? > > J. > > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > Paul, > > > > So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya > debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great ifit > were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have > some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM > > > > According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by > > the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally > > I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, > > whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the > big > > question for me. > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Loni > > > > > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > > > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > > > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other > problems > > > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and > detoxification > > > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > > > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 > is > > > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel > to > > > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > > > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times > I > > > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my > parents > > > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > > > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the > computer > > > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use > the > > > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > > > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > > > going on there??? > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > > > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > > > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > > > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > > > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > > > > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > > > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > > > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > > > > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of > my > > > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > > > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > > > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > > > > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > > > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > > > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > > > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > > > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. > LOL. > > > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > > > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did > exercises > > > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > > > > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made > sense > > > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > > > > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > > > thinking it possible. > > > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work > is > > > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > > > > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this > work > > > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > > > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around > them"...or > > > so I think. > > > > > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others > who > > > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > > > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > > > > > Sandra > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > > > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com > and > > > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > > > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > > > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > > > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem > is > > > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > > > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > > > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > > > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > > > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any > health > > > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > > > to > > > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > > > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > > > hear from you. > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Coffman > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
What about books? Wasn't that what Annie did? Loni
--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Wolf Man <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Wolf Man <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 2:04 AM the problem is, how to watch any dvds whan you have emfsens, i can do it for 5 minutes and thats it --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 10:17 PM I came across this 'amygdala retraining' program for $190 for a set of DVDs - it sounds similar to the 'dynamic neural retraining' that Annie is doing - mainlyl for CFS but also basic mechanism mentions CFS... http://www.guptapro gramme.com/ html/explainCFS. asp On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? > > J. > > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > Paul, > > > > So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya > debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great ifit > were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have > some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM > > > > According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by > > the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally > > I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, > > whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the > big > > question for me. > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Loni > > > > > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > > > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > > > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other > problems > > > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and > detoxification > > > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > > > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 > is > > > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel > to > > > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > > > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times > I > > > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my > parents > > > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > > > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the > computer > > > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use > the > > > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > > > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > > > going on there??? > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > > > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > > > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > > > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > > > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > > > > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > > > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > > > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > > > > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of > my > > > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > > > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > > > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > > > > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > > > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > > > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > > > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > > > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. > LOL. > > > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > > > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did > exercises > > > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > > > > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made > sense > > > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > > > > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > > > thinking it possible. > > > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work > is > > > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > > > > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this > work > > > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > > > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around > them"...or > > > so I think. > > > > > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others > who > > > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > > > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > > > > > Sandra > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > > > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com > and > > > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > > > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > > > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > > > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem > is > > > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > > > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > > > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > > > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > > > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any > health > > > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > > > to > > > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > > > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > > > hear from you. > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Coffman > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi everyone
I still haven't had time to check out this site in detail - I had a quick 10 minute surf around it yesterday and it struck me as oddly similar io something which a man called Ashok Gupta is offering in the UK - admittedly as a treatment for ME/CFS as opposed to MCS - I have had some email contactwith Mr Gupta who was also offering his treatment at a cost of £95.00 ona full refund if it doesn't work basis and he reckoned it would also work for ES. There is a lot in his premise which seems to be sound - his programme is based on the theory that a prt of the brain - the Amygdala - becomes overatice and on a heightened state of alert and that this needs to be reprogrammed to work normally. Look it up on You Tube and you can watch some ofhis video material for free. I certainly intend to maybe have a go at it when I get the chance. Look it up too on a site called healthspy where a guywho calls himself Black spy includes his programme in his section on "treatments" - although he thinks the programme also needs to address nutrition and detoxification which I don't hink it does. Food for thought. BW Steph --- On Wed, 28/10/09, Wolf Man <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Wolf Man <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 20:43 I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? J. --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM Paul, So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big question for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: > > > > Hi Loni > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > going on there??? > > Best wishes > > Steph > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > Hi Paul, > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > thinking it possible. > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or > so I think. > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > Sandra > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > to > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > hear from you. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Oh that it the DVD's Paul was talking about. Sounds like something to look it to for sure.
Let us know what you find out! Have you tried NAET? Some others on another site swear by this. ???? LOni --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:34 AM Hi everyone I still haven't had time to check out this site in detail - I had a quick 10 minute surf around it yesterday and it struck me as oddly similar io something which a man called Ashok Gupta is offering in the UK - admittedly as a treatment for ME/CFS as opposed to MCS - I have had some email contactwith Mr Gupta who was also offering his treatment at a cost of £95.00 ona full refund if it doesn't work basis and he reckoned it would also work for ES. There is a lot in his premise which seems to be sound - his programme is based on the theory that a prt of the brain - the Amygdala - becomes overatice and on a heightened state of alert and that this needs to be reprogrammed to work normally. Look it up on You Tube and you can watch some ofhis video material for free. I certainly intend to maybe have a go at it when I get the chance. Look it up too on a site called healthspy where a guywho calls himself Black spy includes his programme in his section on "treatments" - although he thinks the programme also needs to address nutrition and detoxification which I don't hink it does. Food for thought. BW Steph --- On Wed, 28/10/09, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 20:43 I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? J. --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM Paul, So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big question for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: > > > > Hi Loni > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > going on there??? > > Best wishes > > Steph > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > Hi Paul, > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > thinking it possible. > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or > so I think. > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > Sandra > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > to > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > hear from you. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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on the website they say that you can just listen to the dvd's as well if the
tv bothers you. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > What about books? Wasn't that what Annie did? Loni > > --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Wolf Man <[hidden email] <napanft%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > From: Wolf Man <[hidden email] <napanft%40yahoo.com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 2:04 AM > > > > > the problem is, how to watch any dvds whan you have emfsens, i can do it > for 5 minutes and thats it > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 10:17 PM > > > > I came across this 'amygdala retraining' program for $190 for a set of DVDs > > - it sounds similar to the 'dynamic neural retraining' that Annie is doing > - > > mainlyl for CFS but also basic mechanism mentions CFS... > > http://www.guptapro gramme.com/ html/explainCFS. asp > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > > > > > > > > So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya > > > debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if > it > > > were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I > have > > > some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni > > > > > > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > neural > > > retraining system > > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced > by > > > > > > the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. > Personnally > > > > > > I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, > > > > > > whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the > > > big > > > > > > question for me. > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Loni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > > > > > > > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > > > > > > > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other > > > problems > > > > > > > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and > > > detoxification > > > > > > > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and > see > > > > > > > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 > > > is > > > > > > > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel > > > to > > > > > > > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to > hear > > > > > > > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At > times > > > I > > > > > > > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my > > > parents > > > > > > > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > > > > > > > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the > > > computer > > > > > > > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use > > > the > > > > > > > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use > the > > > > > > > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What > is > > > > > > > going on there??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > > > neural > > > > > > > retraining system > > > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > > > > > > > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this > & > > > > > > > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > > > > > > > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > > > > > > > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go > to > > > > > > > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic > > > neural > > > > > > > retraining system > > > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of > > > my > > > > > > > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > > > > > > > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > > > > > > > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to > stand > > > > > > > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain > to > > > > > > > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am > free > > > > > > > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and > functional > > > > > > > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. > > > LOL. > > > > > > > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > > > > > > > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did > > > exercises > > > > > > > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made > > > sense > > > > > > > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head > to > > > > > > > thinking it possible. > > > > > > > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose > work > > > is > > > > > > > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this > > > work > > > > > > > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of > them > > > > > > > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around > > > them"...or > > > > > > > so I think. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others > > > who > > > > > > > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > > > > > > > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sandra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > > > > > > > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > > > > > > > retraining system > > > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > > > > > > > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com > > > and > > > > > > > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively > gone > > > > > > > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' > and > > > > > > > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > > > > > > > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem > > > is > > > > > > > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, > so > > > > > > > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend > $1000 > > > > > > > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on > the > > > > > > > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain > my > > > > > > > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any > > > health > > > > > > > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol > seems > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone > who > > > > > > > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like > to > > > > > > > hear from you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Paul Coffman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Paul Coffman > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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But also there are lot of us who had nothing changed by NAET except the weight our our wallets. Over 40 NAET treatments did nothing for me. It just irked me that my NAET practitioner claimed that he will definitely help me without even truly listening to my symptoms. He is even big time well known in Toronto.
Just a suggestion before you spend you money on NAET. If you go somewhere remote for three days and you feel much, much better that might mean that NAET is not the answer. Good luck if you decide to go for it. I hope it helps. Sandra --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Loni <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Received: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:43 AM Oh that it the DVD's Paul was talking about. Sounds like something to look it to for sure. Let us know what you find out! Have you tried NAET? Some others on another site swear by this. ???? LOni --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:34 AM Hi everyone I still haven't had time to check out this site in detail - I had a quick 10 minute surf around it yesterday and it struck me as oddly similar io something which a man called Ashok Gupta is offering in the UK - admittedly as a treatment for ME/CFS as opposed to MCS - I have had some email contactwith Mr Gupta who was also offering his treatment at a cost of £95.00 ona full refund if it doesn't work basis and he reckoned it would also work for ES. There is a lot in his premise which seems to be sound - his programme is based on the theory that a prt of the brain - the Amygdala - becomes overatice and on a heightened state of alert and that this needs to be reprogrammed to work normally. Look it up on You Tube and you can watch some ofhis video material for free. I certainly intend to maybe have a go at it when I get the chance. Look it up too on a site called healthspy where a guywho calls himself Black spy includes his programme in his section on "treatments" - although he thinks the programme also needs to address nutrition and detoxification which I don't hink it does. Food for thought. BW Steph --- On Wed, 28/10/09, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 20:43 I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? J. --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM Paul, So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big question for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: > > > > Hi Loni > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > going on there??? > > Best wishes > > Steph > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > Hi Paul, > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > thinking it possible. > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or > so I think. > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > Sandra > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > to > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > hear from you. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I do feel lots better in a remote area. Makes all the difference in the world. Ya I am skeptical of it. That must have been very expensive for you. Loni
--- On Thu, 10/29/09, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote: From: S.T. <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:54 PM But also there are lot of us who had nothing changed by NAET except the weight our our wallets. Over 40 NAET treatments did nothing for me. It just irked me that my NAET practitioner claimed that he will definitely help me without even truly listening to my symptoms. He is even big time well known in Toronto. Just a suggestion before you spend you money on NAET. If you go somewhere remote for three days and you feel much, much better that might mean that NAET is not the answer. Good luck if you decide to go for it. I hope it helps. Sandra --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Received: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:43 AM Oh that it the DVD's Paul was talking about. Sounds like something to look it to for sure. Let us know what you find out! Have you tried NAET? Some others on another site swear by this. ???? LOni --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:34 AM Hi everyone I still haven't had time to check out this site in detail - I had a quick 10 minute surf around it yesterday and it struck me as oddly similar io something which a man called Ashok Gupta is offering in the UK - admittedly as a treatment for ME/CFS as opposed to MCS - I have had some email contactwith Mr Gupta who was also offering his treatment at a cost of £95.00 ona full refund if it doesn't work basis and he reckoned it would also work for ES. There is a lot in his premise which seems to be sound - his programme is based on the theory that a prt of the brain - the Amygdala - becomes overatice and on a heightened state of alert and that this needs to be reprogrammed to work normally. Look it up on You Tube and you can watch some ofhis video material for free. I certainly intend to maybe have a go at it when I get the chance. Look it up too on a site called healthspy where a guywho calls himself Black spy includes his programme in his section on "treatments" - although he thinks the programme also needs to address nutrition and detoxification which I don't hink it does. Food for thought. BW Steph --- On Wed, 28/10/09, Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Wolf Man <napanft@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 20:43 I wonder if neurofeedback training would have same effects as this one? J. --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:09 AM Paul, So you think that when I have burning skin & nerve damage, oh ya debilitating fatigue it is caused by the brain? Gosh is would be great if it were that simple. So what about the other organ disfunctions? I know I have some genetic disfunctions, what about that? Loni --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:39 AM According to Annie the digestion issues are all controlled or influenced by the brain as well, so the 'rewiring' would help that issue too. Personnally I am quite convinced this mcs/esens problem is controlled by the brain, whether or not annie's techniques can really do anything about it is the big question for me. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote: > > > > Hi Loni > > I haven't looked at the site - although I found what Sandra posted very > interesting - I know that the brain can rewire itself - it is the most > plastic of organs - but certainly in my case there seem to be other problems > at work concerning digestion [woeful and getting worse!] and detoxification > - would the brain re-wiring help these?? I need to read the site and see > what I think [too much on plate to do this at moment] but I agree $1000 is > an awful lot of money and could you imagine how " duped" you would feel to > have shelled that out to end up no better for it. I am sorry too to hear > that you have to sleep in the national park to get any respite. At times I > feel like that and am currently shuttling between my own home and my parents > house - feel like the biggest bag lady!!! so i can sympathise with your > situation. And am emailing in the lbrary today where I can use the computer > ok, except that I cme out of there with the red rashy face. I can't use the > computer in my own home because the zzz zzz zzz go mad and when I use the > computer in my parents house i get the most painful sore throat. What is > going on there??? > > Best wishes > > Steph > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 18:02 > > > > > I think that $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a lot of us with not > definite results. It is very interesting. Didn't Annie read about this & > then tried it herself. So why couldn't we read what she read & apply it > also? Hmmm, save us $1,000. > > I am skeptical because in my situation I am bombarded by the toxic > environment 24/7 so my body doesn't get a rest. Well, except when I go to > the national park to sleep at night which is really old & humiliating. > > I would spend the money if it was a guarantee. Loni > > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote: > > From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:55 AM > > > > Hi Paul, > > I am familiar with a "retraining the brain" method in another aspect of my > life. Moshe Feldenkrais' work on rewiring the brain for back and neck > issues is used worldwide. 5 years ago I bought CD's from Anat Baniel > http://www.anatbani elmethod. com/. Anat was Moshe's student. > > After two months of following 12 lessons religiously I relearned to stand > properly and to walk without being hunched over. I retrained my brain to > use a different, or proper, muscle group to straighten up. Also I am free > from the lower back pain caused by serious disc herniation and functional > scoliosis, due to being a "Hunchback of Notre Dame" for so many years. LOL. > My mother used to slap me across my back and scream, "straighten up." > Needless to say, that did not work. No one believes me that I did exercises > and my mother is proud that her slapping me worked. Ignoramuses. > > I do not know why the concept of retraining my brain for my back made sense > to me right away. I guess because it is physical as well as mental. > > I have read "the brain that changes itself" and I need to get my head to > thinking it possible. > I see that Anat Baniel on her new website talked to Merzenich whose work is > heavily quoted by Norman Doige too. > > There are many questions in my mind since I do not know how would this work > on ES. I still have some metal crowns in my mouth. Until the last of them > comes out in December my brain will always "short circuit around them"...or > so I think. > > Keeping our minds open is important and let's hope we hear from others who > were successfully in curing themselves. If not from ES but at least of > MCS. Mmm did I say at least... > > Sandra > > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> wrote: > > From: Paul Coffman <pkcoff@gmail. com> > Subject: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural > retraining system > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com, emfrefugee@yahoogro ups.com > Received: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > I think everyone in this group should explore: http://www.mcscure. com and > give your feedback, it is also a cure for esens. I have extensively gone > through the website and read the book 'the brain that changes itself' and > i've had several correspondances with Annie. The website is incredibly > well organized and Annie seems very thoughtful and genuine. The problem is > she is working on a dvd / book but it won't be out for several months, so > the only way to learn these brain retraining technigues is to spend $1000 > and go to a 3-day seminar. However everythng I am hearing from her on the > website and book does make sense, and at least in my life does explain my > issues - ie it seems my esens and mcs is completely unchanged by any health > habits i have (ie detox, eating well, eating bad, drinking alchohol seems > to > have absolutely no effect on my symptoms). And if anyone knows anyone who > has personal experience with the seminar or Annie I would really like to > hear from you. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> But also there are lot of us who had nothing changed by NAET except the
> weight our our wallets. Over 40 NAET treatments did nothing for me. I never tried NAET, because when I was researching it, it seemed that many practitioners were switching to NMT, which was felt by some to be better. So I tried NMT... and it did nothing for me... except cost money... :-( Marc |
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Don't know if it would be enough to help, but to watch the dvd's, if it is the tv bothering, one of the radiation shields made for computer screens can go on the front of the tv just as well, the smaller size ones. I can tella difference.
~ Snoshoe > > --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Wolf Man <napanft@...> wrote: > > > From: Wolf Man <napanft@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] any feedback at all on mcscure.com and dynamic neural retraining system > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 2:04 AM > > the problem is, how to watch any dvds whan you have emfsens, i can do it for 5 minutes and thats it |
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