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randolf_everywhere
Hello,

has anybody experience with aircleaners. They improve the quality of
the climate in rooms.

Randolf

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Glenn Coleman
Hi Randolf,

Yes, I have extensive experience with air cleaners - my Dad distributes a
whole line of leading edge air purification products. I due all his lab
testing of new products to determine applications.

Ironically, that is how I found out about the eSens group, since some
companies claim ion generators are good for reducing ES symptoms.

I believe that air purification is more of a supportive mechanism to help
with side effects from ES. ie. If ones immune system is weak due to ES, it
keeps viruses, bacteria, molds, etc. from making one ill. If one is
chemically sensitive to chemical vapours like glues in carpet, paint,
vehicle fumes etc., which sometimes accompanies ES, then air purifiers like
Biozone Scientific can be very effective to clean the air of these
contaminants since it converts them into CO2 and Hydrogen.

Regards,

Glenn


>From: "randolf_everywhere" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [eSens] air cleaner
>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:34:05 -0000
>
>Hello,
>
>has anybody experience with aircleaners. They improve the quality of
>the climate in rooms.
>
>Randolf
>

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RE: air cleaner

Marc Martin
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>then air purifiers like
>Biozone Scientific can be very effective to clean the air of these
>contaminants since it converts them into CO2 and Hydrogen.

I thought Biozone Scientific had gone out of business, or gone bankrupt, or
something like that?

I use one of their purifiers in the cat litter room -- seems to help. I've
bought all sorts of air purifiers for allergies and such, but with all
that, I'm really not sure that I could recommend ANY of them... seems like
too many of them fill the room with an unpleasant ozone-like smell...

Marc

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Re: air cleaner

randolf_everywhere
In reply to this post by Glenn Coleman
Hello,

Biozone Scientific air cleaners aren't the cheapest. I have seen some for
much less, but I don't know if they do the work properly.

Randolf Weinand


--- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman"
<glennhcoleman@h...> wrote:
> Hi Randolf,
>
> Yes, I have extensive experience with air cleaners - my Dad
distributes a
> whole line of leading edge air purification products. I due all his lab
> testing of new products to determine applications.
>
> Ironically, that is how I found out about the eSens group, since some
> companies claim ion generators are good for reducing ES symptoms.
>
> I believe that air purification is more of a supportive mechanism to
help
> with side effects from ES. ie. If ones immune system is weak due to
ES, it
> keeps viruses, bacteria, molds, etc. from making one ill. If one is
> chemically sensitive to chemical vapours like glues in carpet, paint,
> vehicle fumes etc., which sometimes accompanies ES, then air
purifiers like

> Biozone Scientific can be very effective to clean the air of these
> contaminants since it converts them into CO2 and Hydrogen.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glenn
>
>
> >From: "randolf_everywhere" <Thats@M...>
> >Reply-To: [hidden email]
> >To: [hidden email]
> >Subject: [eSens] air cleaner
> >Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:34:05 -0000
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >has anybody experience with aircleaners. They improve the quality of
> >the climate in rooms.
> >
> >Randolf
> >

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Re: air cleaner

randolf_everywhere
In reply to this post by Glenn Coleman
Hello,

when I use joss sticks often the climate in the room gets better and I
feel better. Using such sticks is changing ions in the room.
But after a night this effect is over.
I use shielding fabrics. Sometimes is there bad air behind them in the
morning when there is room. This bad air kakes me feel bad.
When I air the room I feel better. Feeling bad because of bad air in the
morning I can possibly avoid with an air cleaner.


Randolf Weinand In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman"
<glennhcoleman@h...> wrote:
> Hi Randolf,
>
> Yes, I have extensive experience with air cleaners - my Dad
distributes a
> whole line of leading edge air purification products. I due all his lab
> testing of new products to determine applications.
>
> Ironically, that is how I found out about the eSens group, since some
> companies claim ion generators are good for reducing ES symptoms.
>
> I believe that air purification is more of a supportive mechanism to
help
> with side effects from ES. ie. If ones immune system is weak due to
ES, it
> keeps viruses, bacteria, molds, etc. from making one ill. If one is
> chemically sensitive to chemical vapours like glues in carpet, paint,
> vehicle fumes etc., which sometimes accompanies ES, then air
purifiers like

> Biozone Scientific can be very effective to clean the air of these
> contaminants since it converts them into CO2 and Hydrogen.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glenn
>
>
> >From: "randolf_everywhere" <Thats@M...>
> >Reply-To: [hidden email]
> >To: [hidden email]
> >Subject: [eSens] air cleaner
> >Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:34:05 -0000
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >has anybody experience with aircleaners. They improve the quality of
> >the climate in rooms.
> >
> >Randolf
> >

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Re: air cleaner

Marc Martin
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In reply to this post by randolf_everywhere
> Biozone Scientific air cleaners aren't the cheapest. I have seen some for
> much less, but I don't know if they do the work properly.

Interesting. I've purchased and tried out several brands of air
cleaners
(electronic, filters, ozone, etc.), and I thought the Biozone Scientific
models were in the less expensive range. They are also constructed
rather cheaply, so I think they are making a lot of profit with each
sale. But that said, they are one of my favorite brands, because a lot
of others I have tried had drawbacks. For example:

-- Aranizers: too strong of an ozone odor, even at the lowest setting.
Also, deteriorates after longterm use due to the
oxidation.
-- RGF "Vision": too powerful oxidation, with no smaller models.
Puts strange smell into the air (not ozone, but similar)
-- Air-Zone: too noisy... cannot be used be used in many places
because of the noise
-- Ecoquest: somewhat dangerous, when the plates get dirty you get
electrical arcing. Also is supposed to put out nitric acid as
a by-product (although I suppose that some of the others do this
too)
-- HEPA Filters, activated carbon filters: didn't seem to do anything

But like I said before, I have not really found a brand that I would
be comfortable recommending. However, the Biozone Scientific is at
least a brand that I'm currently using and happy with so far. In
fact, with the subject just brought up, I just ordered a car and a
hotel model to try out.

Marc

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Marc Martin
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> But that said, they are one of my favorite brands, because a lot
> of others I have tried had drawbacks. For example:

Oh, I forgot negative ion generators. These don't seem very
helpful, and also blacken the walls, furniture, and carpeting.

Marc