Wi Fi/Dect Phones

I took advice from folks on this forum and got an Electrosmog detector
(thanks Shivani) and found that the one place in the house that is
getting strong wi-fi signals is, yes you guessed it....the bedroom.

Good thing is, my husband is starting to take me seriously. He has had
a problem with cell phones for years so it was helpful to be able to
show him that we are being zapped in bed by the same frequencies. He
has been complaining of back and neck aches for months now. Blamed the
bed being too hard even though it is super-plush with 2 additional
pillow tops (!).

I was surprised that the DECT phone don't give off any microwave
energy, according to the electrosmog detector. How does the base
transmit to the phones then? Is it a slightly different frequency or
something?

Thanks,
Aline

Still looking for answers......

In a message dated 6/5/2007 8:05:57 AM GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes:

I was surprised that the DECT phone don't give off any microwave
energy, according to the electrosmog detector. How does the base
transmit to the phones then? Is it a slightly different frequency or
something?

Thanks,
Aline



NOT SO - Check out Electrosensitivity.org.uk see the section on DECT phones.
Unless you have measured an Analogue cordless phone instead of a Digital
one, you are sadly mistaken.
If you use one in your house take a hammer to it, by all accounts thats what
its doing to your cells !!

PAUL UK -






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Aline wrote:
> I was surprised that the DECT phone don't give off any microwave
> energy, according to the electrosmog detector. How does the base
> transmit to the phones then? Is it a slightly different frequency or
> something?
>

It should show up on the meter, when the phone rings with an incoming call.

Stewart

Boy, yes, the electrosmog detector is as loud as it is for the
microwave oven!

I've had the frikking base right next to me in my office for 2 years,
dangit.

I've been holding the phone away from my ear for over a year as I
feel it affecting me.

At least our particular phone doesn't emit 24/7.

Now I have to convince my husband to ditch the DECTS. He gets very
upset when I come up with more and more stuff.

Thanks for the feedback,
Aline

--- In [hidden email], "S. Andreason" <sandreas41@...> wrote:

Aline wrote:
I was surprised that the DECT phone don't give off any microwave
energy, according to the electrosmog detector. How does the base
transmit to the phones then? Is it a slightly different frequency or
something?
 
It should show up on the meter, when the phone rings with an incoming
call.

Stewart

Actually, it's really good that your DECT phones only seem to give a signal
when rung. Most cordless phones that I've seen give a distinctive strong
continuous pulse all the time on the electrosmog detector. In that respect
they are worse than mobiles which often only give a pulse when in use (but a
big pulse on ringing tone). Perhaps manufacturers are quietly trying to
improve their systems as they are aware of the reports of effects,
especially in Scandinavia. It makes sense for them to apply a precautionary
principle themselves.
 
As for microwave ovens, we normally found only a small signal from properly
functioning ones. We did get a very bad signal froma friend's oldtype unit.
The thing is that they were designed from the outset to try to shield the
microwaves and stop them getting out. What we've had most trouble with from
them is the big magnetic field emitted when the fan and turntable are
operating. Depends what you're sensitive to out of electric fields, magnetic
fields and microwaves - seems to differ between people a fair amount.
 
Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Aline
Sent: 05 June 2007 20:38
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Wi Fi/Dect Phones



Boy, yes, the electrosmog detector is as loud as it is for the
microwave oven!

I've had the frikking base right next to me in my office for 2 years,
dangit.

I've been holding the phone away from my ear for over a year as I
feel it affecting me.

At least our particular phone doesn't emit 24/7.

Now I have to convince my husband to ditch the DECTS. He gets very
upset when I come up with more and more stuff.

Thanks for the feedback,
Aline

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "S.
Andreason" <sandreas41@...> wrote:

Aline wrote:
I was surprised that the DECT phone don't give off any microwave
energy, according to the electrosmog detector. How does the base
transmit to the phones then? Is it a slightly different frequency or
something?

It should show up on the meter, when the phone rings with an incoming
call.

Stewart



 


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Aline, would it be possible for you to get a cheap conventional plug-in line
for your own use, and move the base station somewhere else in the house?
That way you can see if it helps, and not have to replace all the DECT
phones immediately.
 
The trouble with ES is that it is so disruptive in so many ways, especially
when it first hits, that sometimes you have to be selective about which
things you tackle first. Otherwise it becomes a nightmare for both of you!
 
Also, if you get a conventional landline/handset and it still gives you
trouble, it can be an early warning sign of a susceptibility to magnetic
fields (in the earpiece).
 
Ian

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From: Ian Kemp [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 06 June 2007 00:00
To: '[hidden email]'
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Wi Fi/Dect Phones


Actually, it's really good that your DECT phones only seem to give a signal
when rung. Most cordless phones that I've seen give a distinctive strong
continuous pulse all the time on the electrosmog detector. In that respect
they are worse than mobiles which often only give a pulse when in use (but a
big pulse on ringing tone). Perhaps manufacturers are quietly trying to
improve their systems as they are aware of the reports of effects,
especially in Scandinavia. It makes sense for them to apply a precautionary
principle themselves.
 
As for microwave ovens, we normally found only a small signal from properly
functioning ones. We did get a very bad signal froma friend's oldtype unit.
The thing is that they were designed from the outset to try to shield the
microwaves and stop them getting out. What we've had most trouble with from
them is the big magnetic field emitted when the fan and turntable are
operating. Depends what you're sensitive to out of electric fields, magnetic
fields and microwaves - seems to differ between people a fair amount.
 
Ian

_____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Aline
Sent: 05 June 2007 20:38
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Wi Fi/Dect Phones



Boy, yes, the electrosmog detector is as loud as it is for the
microwave oven!

I've had the frikking base right next to me in my office for 2 years,
dangit.

I've been holding the phone away from my ear for over a year as I
feel it affecting me.

At least our particular phone doesn't emit 24/7.

Now I have to convince my husband to ditch the DECTS. He gets very
upset when I come up with more and more stuff.

Thanks for the feedback,
Aline

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "S.
Andreason" <sandreas41@...> wrote:

Aline wrote:
I was surprised that the DECT phone don't give off any microwave
energy, according to the electrosmog detector. How does the base
transmit to the phones then? Is it a slightly different frequency or
something?

It should show up on the meter, when the phone rings with an incoming
call.

Stewart



 


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for some reason i'm assuming Aline is from US, where Analogue
cordless phones seem to predominate, ie the ones that only pulse when
in use. Why that is the case i do not know, esp when you think of
the US as being so up on all the technology.
j
--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, it's really good that your DECT phones only seem to give
a signal
> when rung. Most cordless phones that I've seen give a distinctive
strong
> continuous pulse all the time on the electrosmog detector. In that
respect
> they are worse than mobiles which often only give a pulse when in
use (but a
> big pulse on ringing tone). Perhaps manufacturers are quietly
trying to
> improve their systems as they are aware of the reports of effects,
> especially in Scandinavia. It makes sense for them to apply a
precautionary
> principle themselves.
>  
> As for microwave ovens, we normally found only a small signal from
properly
> functioning ones. We did get a very bad signal froma friend's
oldtype unit.
> The thing is that they were designed from the outset to try to
shield the
> microwaves and stop them getting out. What we've had most trouble
with from
> them is the big magnetic field emitted when the fan and turntable
are
> operating. Depends what you're sensitive to out of electric fields,
magnetic
> fields and microwaves - seems to differ between people a fair
amount.
>  
> Ian
>
> _____  
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of years, or
> something?
>
> It should show up on the meter, when the phone rings with an
incoming

Hi Ian,

Actually I do have a land-line also but because my office was
designed as the main office in the house the base station doesn't
work anywhere else (not sure why). I am persuading my husband to use
his land line instead of portable or at least let me know so I can
get out of my office.

They gotta go (or maybe just have one for 'emergencies').

You are right that we are fortunate here in the US that they don't
emit continuously.

My tinnitus started while I was at my parents in the UK and I now
realise that there was a DECT phone on the other side of the wall
right near my head (and the night before it started I talked on a
satellite phone for a few minutes - I've heard that they emit 5 times
more than a regular mobile phone). I think it was the last straw for
my poor ear.....

Aline

In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:

Aline, would it be possible for you to get a cheap conventional plug-
in line for your own use, and move the base station somewhere else in
the house?

That way you can see if it helps, and not have to replace all the DECT
phones immediately.

The trouble with ES is that it is so disruptive in so many ways,
especially when it first hits, that sometimes you have to be
selective about which things you tackle first. Otherwise it becomes a
nightmare for both of you!

Also, if you get a conventional landline/handset and it still gives
you trouble, it can be an early warning sign of a susceptibility to
magnetic fields (in the earpiece).

Ian

Yes, I am in Hawaii (I'm English though so both types are of interest
to me).

Aline

--- In [hidden email], "canaryyuk" <asurisuk@...> wrote:

For some reason i'm assuming Aline is from US, where Analogue
cordless phones seem to predominate, ie the ones that only pulse when
in use. Why that is the case i do not know, esp when you think of
the US as being so up on all the technology.
j