Which scenario is better regarding towers?

Hi everyone =) I am new here. First a little backstory. I have a history of autoimmune thyroid disease but was feeling quite well with medication and diet changes until I moved 4 years ago. My previous house had one tower and 5 antennas within a 3 mile radius. The tower was 2.45 miles away. Since I moved to my new house I have crazy autoimmune swings that my doc cant figure out, constant pain, hot flashes (I was 27 when I moved here, 32 now so this isn't normal!) exhaustion, confusion, severe muscle spasms, eye pain, numbness, even transient leg paralysis...I could go on. Drs. thought I had MS except I DON'T. All the tests came back negative. I had a friend who lived and worked down the street from me who had the same situation. Doctors thought she had MS but all tests were negative. She got to where she couldn't walk. She moved to Maine and is walking about happily now! My children also have trouble sleeping here and I am worried about them living here =( When we visit relatives out of town in areas with less towers we feel great! We have felt especially great in areas that don't have cell service and wifi. There are 176 towers and over 400 antennas within a 3 mile radius of this current house. I really want to move NOW while this house is on the market but I can't afford rent prices in the less contaminated areas and cant really buy another house in those areas until this one sells. But.... I have an opportunity to buy a house in a small town nearby for very very cheap and it only has 11 towers within a 3 mile radius 87 antennas, not perfect but MUCH less than where I am now. the only problem is this: Where I live now there are 3 towers between 0.43 and 0.47 miles from my house 6 between 0.5 and 0.99 miles and the remaining 167 are between 1 and 3 miles. The cheap house in the small town has one closer to it at only 0.16 miles away, one at 0.55 and the remaining 9 more than a mile away. So I am wondering if anyone has an idea of which scenario is better, A) being completely surrounded by these things or B) being closer to one but not having such a saturation of others. The towers at 0.16 and 0.55 miles from the house I could buy are the same strength as the 9 towers which are less than a mile from my house here. Sorry this is long and rambling, I tried to make it as short as possible. Thanks to anyone who can help!

First off, are you sure it's the towers that are the issue?  Could it be power lines instead?  (underground or above ground?).  Or possibly poor power quality in your area?

Either way, it sounds like where you live is bad, and there are probably a lot of places that you could move that would be a lot better.  I would suggest spending some time in the place you are thinking of moving, and see how you feel (as one can feel better or worse pretty quickly, especially when already weakened and sensitized).

Marc

Also, as for the towers, I don't think it's necessarily the number of towers that matter, but how powerful they are, are they in direct line of sight or being blocked, are they pointed right at you, etc.  We've had some people find new houses that were pretty close to a tower, but were fine...

Marc

Hi Marc, thank you for your responses. No I am not positive its the towers but I suspect it as a likely cause. I suppose it could possibly be power lines or poor power quality but as you said whatever it is its a bad area to live in. Thanks for the idea to spend time in the area I am looking at. I am going to check and see if there is a hotel or motel nearby I can rent.

however if I rent a motel or hotel they will probably have wifi broadcasting and that bothers me  maybe I will just drive down a few days spend some time down there. I have no idea what I would do there though. Stand outside the house I guess, haha!

When I was last shopping for a new house, I would try to figure out how it "feels" by going to the open house, spending lots of time wandering through the empty house, being in the house with my real estate agent after the open house had ended, etc.  But by "lots of time" I meant an hour or two, not days.  :-)

Marc

Thank you. I am sorry for your hardship! What a world we live in, sigh. I thank God we don't have smart meters here and I hope we never do but its probably inevitable. It sounds like I should break down and get a meter so I can figure out if this is indeed what's going on and if so use it to find another place to live. I personally have always wanted to live in the boonies (I know its not everyone's thing and if its not yours I am sure it feels difficult and isolated...I hope it is a happy place for you) but my husband never wanted to live too far from town. He is saying now however that we should move wherever I can be healthy so if that's what it takes we will. I hope you continue to heal and I thank you for your response.

Boy do I relate to you guys. I am the only one in my area w/ analog meter. I have graves disease and after moving in here I had to double my t-roid meds and still could not get control. After the sm meter was removed I was able to lower it 1/4 and then when I got the canopy to block the neighbors wifi I was able to go back to my old dose.

I am in a really unsafe situation re: RFs. My neighbors' wifi causes me mini strokes, canopy blocks that out and no strokes if I stay there 24/7.  It lessons the strength of the pulses of the neighbors' smart meters, but the pulses still get through the fabric.  there are several cell antenna w/ in 1/2 a mile, closest one .11 miles.  I finally got the trailer I was saving for and installing off grid heater stove fireplace thingy and now trying to still sell all my stuff for the funds to cover 12v cooler [works w/ solar] and the solar system itself.  Off grid is the only option not being rich.  I know a couple very affluent ES people and they can afford a place in an area where opt outs are allowed.

I have found that places w/ enough distance from neighbors wireless, cell towers and smart meter opt out are reserved for only the affluent. I also found that places that were affordable in opt out areas, were very dense w/ population and full of towers and wireless.  I have checked in all the warmer southern areas of the US for the last 2 1/2 years to find something.  The nice rural places that are affordable, No opt outs.  Same I found for trailer parking.  It's the way it is.

I will NOT TOLERATE having a smart meter on my line. NO NO NO! I hear the utility companies fear that everyone will go solar and they will be out of business soon.  Well they are the ones making their fears reality. For me the cheapest rural place and solar and not turn on the power to the place. I would really rather not have to be in dept for years for the small battery bank of 2 batteries and 200 watts of panels, and I would really like to be able to plug in all the items I am used to using and not be limited to DC only appliances or bother w/ monitoring the dang system etc.. but really it's the only way.  I have one battery and have to try to afford another at least and one or more panels.  I really need at least 4 of ea of battery and panels.  Already arranged and picked out where my landlines and jacks will go and where the solar outlets will go and the one that will be heavy duty etc.. If everyone w/ a smart meter made solar the first goal in there life, the smart grid would be no more.  I am going to have to start a blog and channel about my journey, so others like us can learn from what I am going through.  There's lots of off grid channels on youtube but none aimed at ES.  The solar they use is high EMF/RF and very bad.

If I had the money in my pocket for the swamp cooler and solar, I'd take my canopy and leave this week, but I do not and that NO EMF stove is in the mail 3 to 4 weeks!

The best thing I can say to you is get as far away from all the crap as possible and I have always heard that to keep cell towers at least 1/2 mile away. 2 miles is better. It's sort of progress not perfection.

Wow it makes me so sad to hear you guys stories. All this needless suffering! I totally agree with you. You have to be affluent to live in the safe areas. And the inexpensive safe areas are without employment so you have to drive for hours to get to a job.  I would be interested in seeing your blog and vid channel if you get one going! Good luck with getting your place in order!

disderoo:  I kind of was just saying that off the cuff about the blog and channel, as I had been thinking of a way to share it all in one spot.  I have been writing letters and all I can do is tell people.

So I went and set them both up so here they are:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2tODEUw0bz2aDGxTEY4VeA/videos

https://electrosensitiveprimadonnagoingoffgrid.wordpress.com/

You can see the trailer video walkthru on youtube and the blog is behind.  I feel behind though some progress has been made. The swamp cooler DC low watt 12v is already delivered to be installed and last nite I ordered 2 100w mono. panels.  I am at a stuck point as I have found low emf controllers I can tolerate and are safe, but they can not be used w/ more than 100 watts -who can live on that? No one!
Easier said than done to go off the grid.  Think it will be worth it in the end.

There's a part of me that has stagnated here stuck for so long, trapped in negativity, that all I know is getting worse and the slow painful death that is happening to me. It has felt like a dream, since I got the RV. I just fear it's not real, so every challenge that pops up is very traumatic.  Guess it would be unrealistic to think that there would be no challenges in moving from my state, half bedridden, paring down to live tiny and going off grid.  It feels good to be on the road.

I have some idea of where I may end up parking. But I have had many snub their nose already as it's low class.  I am happy for them as they had the riches to move out to fancy expensive rentals w/ no RFs or towers and have opt out.  Some of us don't. Actually most of us. It's hard to find: No towers, no smart meters, not close to neighbors or something else that will kill us all in one package.  If doing that makes me lowly and unacceptable so be it. But I will feel better I'm sure.

I would prefer something not in a park. One of those hookups on private acreage.  So far they have been too costly or there have been towers.  Sometimes they come up OK except for mandatory smart meter as is the situation in the remote parks I found.  That's why off grid set up is a MUST. There are parks where your space is a quiet zone, though the office has wifi. The trailers are spaced far.  Think I posted that video already.LOL

let antennasearch and citydata be thy guide...

Cool I can't wait to check out your blog and videos! I can understand how hard it is and I think people with thyroid issues, especially if they are severe, tend towards adrenal issues as well. What that means for me is that as you said, anytime a challenge pops up the world is coming to an end, lol. We just can't handle these stresses well and it sounds like your body is so taxed already it is amazing you are doing as much as you are. As far as being 'low class' I think that anyone who has told you that doesn't quite get the meaning. Low class has nothing to do with where you live and everything to do with who you are. I know plenty of people who are lacking in class that live in huge custom houses. Class is not something which is for sale. Also I think the trailer looks to be in good condition and you could really make a nice home of it. I just wish you luck on finding the right spot for it and hope you will be feeling better each day!

Yes I will remember to take my macbook.  Right now my RF meter is ambient green due to the wifi. I am looking for better. Lots of homework.  Check: towers, cars parked nearby, wifi, smart meters and a whole host of other things. I hope to find a place where there are no lights on the acousticom and I will be estatic.  It's worth all the homework!

I checked out your blog and see you are in NM. I am in Albuquerque =)

I have used antennasearch but didn't know citydata had this kind of info, thanks for the tip! I am looking for an emf meter as we speak. Not sure which to go with!

I just saw the first smart meter in my neighborhood today on a newly constructed fancy schmancy 'green' building. How ironic.

Cell Towers, wifi, and smart meters all RFs so you are going to want a dedicated RF meter for that. Less EMF talked me out of the Coronet that is supposed to measure all 3 typs of emf and it would not do the job I really need for RFs.

I went w/ the Accousticom 2-same sensor as the original Acousticom, but much cheaper it's $2somthin.00.

Disheroo I just posted a funny smart meter video last nite.LOL  I found it ironic the 2 meters sitting next to eachother. So if someone asks what a smart meter looks like, they can see it there and hear the noise on the meter as well.

I have an ambient green light that stays on the meter at all times.  Contacted the seller as I thought it was broken.  Really the RFs in my house are that bad. We are talking the cell towers .11 of a mile, neighbors' wifi, cordless phones, ans gadgets in cars. That's enough and made me very sick.  When I ended up w/ a smart meter and put in wifi in 2012 it put me over the top.

I was lucky to be able to remove the smart meter.

2 words that make me RUN fast and far:  "Natural" and "Green".  Those words are TOXIC!!!
First any building w/ solar that has grid tie must have a smart meter, so though you do not have them in your area per PNM, that building has one for net metering.  PNM also give smart meters to those that have an issue w/ doggy interfering w/ the meter reader getting safely into the yard to read meters.  As for a roll out they have heard too many health things to chance it. Spoken w/ them on many occasion on this, as I was once considering moving up your way:  Just too cold and not where I am going to be happy.

I am very lucky to have that analog. The NM PUC has tried w/ other cases to get them removed off other places and no luck. I have El Paso Electric and I am the only one w/ no smart meter. That's why I could not stay in my area if I wanted to. Everything else has a smart meter.

Solar by nature is very toxic:  the controllers pulse and transmit RFs, the inverters the same plus tons of dirty electric. So it has taken a federal case and then some to build a system w/ out all that. Panels emit EMFs so away from the house they go. So much for having my panels double as awnings!  I did decide to ad an inverter, but it will have a switch to keep it in disconnect mode. If I want to make a copy/scan or my daily smoothie, I turn it on and then off again a minute later. Got ride of the other items that will take any more inverter time than that. Hard to believe how most systems have that thing on 24/7  BAD BAD BAD. I also plan to shield a lot of things in the future-may be overkill, but NO EMF. Will have to buy some screen-metal for the inverter now.

Oh and "natural" means that there's some secret toxic ingredient in the product that they want to hide. If it says "natural" and it's not organic, it goes back on the shelf.

James wrote

Hi Dark,

 

If smart meters are sending out usage information every few milliseconds,
why is a human meter reader still necessary?

They are trying to do away w/ meter readers. And these meters are to do just that.