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WOW, I am really confused.

barbpom2000
Thanks everyone. What I am understanding is to get rid of electricty almostcompletely to be protected. I guess this is a much great proplem to correct then I really knew. Now I fell I wasted my moneyu on stetzers and those phone patches you stick on. I guess a few EMF companies just made easy moneyon me. WHy would they give false information on how they protect you? Yea,I know the answer, the almighty dollar. It is very depressing.

What does one do for there jobs, if they must have a cell phone. We cannot use a land line due to crews working out in the field. They have wireless computers in all the offices. I was thinking I was doing a good job at home,but now I do think so.

I will look into Mercolas site for the cell phone protector.

Can some one give me the url to the information our goverment put out or the prevention article. I feel like I am up against goliath here.

Thank you each and eveyone for your comment.

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Re: WOW, I am really confused.

Marc Martin
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> Now I fell I wasted my moneyu on stetzers
> and those phone patches you stick on. I guess a few EMF companies just
> made easy money on me. WHy would they give false information on how they
> protect you? Yea, I know the answer, the almighty dollar. It is very
> depressing.

Well, let's not be too negative here. We've had people report positive
results from both of these products, and the people who sell these
most likely believe they are helpful as well. It's just that there
are no guarantees that any one particular thing will help one particular
person. You just need to try them and see.

Marc

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barbpom2000
Marc, Thank you. I appreciate your responce.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > Now I fell I wasted my moneyu on stetzers
> > and those phone patches you stick on. I guess a few EMF companies just
> > made easy money on me. WHy would they give false information on how they
> > protect you? Yea, I know the answer, the almighty dollar. It is very
> > depressing.
>
> Well, let's not be too negative here. We've had people report positive
> results from both of these products, and the people who sell these
> most likely believe they are helpful as well. It's just that there
> are no guarantees that any one particular thing will help one particular
> person. You just need to try them and see.
>
> Marc
>

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Bob Connolly
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BARB
If you go to prevention.com and search for 'Dirty Electricity" you can readabout what it's all about and how the filters work you bought.

The Filters will help to stop you from becoming sensitive to electricity though because they will remove some of the dirty electricity that comes into your house. But - even Stetzer has said that it is getting pretty bad out there and there is only so much his filters can do - but they do help. It was not a waste on money at all. Think of it as an air purifier - not everyone needs one but it's nice to have clean air when you sleep right?  

For your cell phone issue - At mercola.com - they have a bluetube airtube headset - if you must use a cell phone use an airtube. On the home page of mercola.com - there is a link to a video on the Senate hearings where scientists are saying not to carry a cell phone on the body. The doctors and government officials all love airtubes so you will not go wrong there. Show this video to your family and husband and staff and they might stop puttingthe phone in his pocket. The airtubes are available from mercola.

But get rid of those nasty CFL bulbs and anything that is wireless - that is the most important thing to do. NO WIFI in the office or home. Go gigabitethernet - pay for the home installation - run the wires from room to room. And if possible sleep with the electricity turned off - ALL THOSE THINGSDO WORK.


On 2010-01-22, at 8:07 AM, barbpom2000 wrote:

> Thanks everyone. What I am understanding is to get rid of electricty almost completely to be protected. I guess this is a much great proplem to correct then I really knew. Now I fell I wasted my moneyu on stetzers and thosephone patches you stick on. I guess a few EMF companies just made easy money on me. WHy would they give false information on how they protect you? Yea, I know the answer, the almighty dollar. It is very depressing.
>
> What does one do for there jobs, if they must have a cell phone. We cannot use a land line due to crews working out in the field. They have wirelesscomputers in all the offices. I was thinking I was doing a good job at home, but now I do think so.
>
> I will look into Mercolas site for the cell phone protector.
>
> Can some one give me the url to the information our goverment put out or the prevention article. I feel like I am up against goliath here.
>
> Thank you each and eveyone for your comment.
>
>



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Re: WOW, I am really confused.

S Andreason
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Marc Martin wrote:
>> Now I fell I wasted my moneyu on stetzers
>> and those phone patches you stick on. I guess a few EMF companies just
>> made easy money on me. WHy would they give false information on how they
>> protect you? Yea, I know the answer, the almighty dollar. It is very
>> depressing.
>>
>
>

Yes, it is. They make money selling us products that ultimately harm
ourselves and enrich the pharmaceutical companies etc that can't really
fix the problem, only cover up symptoms until we go nuts from the stress.


> Well, let's not be too negative here. We've had people report positive
> results from both of these products,
>


Also consider what each product is designed to help with.
The stetzer filters do reduce noise on your AC wiring, but if you have a
cel-tower or plasma tv next door, or power lines overhead, it's
contribution will be negligible. I would put a priority on cleaning up
your home from unnecessary and avoidable devices, most of which are
probably making the noise those filters can help remove.

As to the phone patches, it might help you tolerate the undesirable
radiation from the phone, but it won't help your children, your neighbor
or anybody walking by you on the street. The phone still emits
microwaves. How much they will still harm you is perhaps a matter for
debate. More can be accomplished by reducing the usage, or moving the
antenna farther from your body.

While some of us are able to mitigate the emissions with quieter
equipment, shielding, and better nutrition and detoxing, and find a way
to tolerate the computer enough to use one for shorter periods of
time... I doubt it is really possible to get better without some avoidance.

If the exposure effects are cumulative, (as indicated), then reducing
exposure now will prolong your ability to function, push off D-day to a
later date.

Take care,
Stewart

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Loni Rosser
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It's also a good idea to turn off the electrical at night in the room that you sleep in. Give the body as much a rest as possible. Loni

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Bob Connolly <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Bob Connolly <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] WOW, I am really confused.
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 12:16 PM



BARB
If you go to prevention.com and search for 'Dirty Electricity" you can readabout what it's all about and how the filters work you bought.

The Filters will help to stop you from becoming sensitive to electricity though because they will remove some of the dirty electricity that comes intoyour house.  But - even Stetzer has said that it is getting pretty bad out there and there is only so much his filters can do -  but they do help. It was not a waste on money at all. Think of it as an air purifier - not everyone needs one but it's nice to have clean air when you sleep right? 

For your cell phone issue - At mercola.com - they have a bluetube airtube headset - if you must use a cell phone use an airtube.  On the home page of mercola.com - there is a link to a video on the Senate hearings where scientists are saying not to carry a cell phone on the body. The doctors and government officials all love airtubes so you will not go wrong there.   Show this video to your family and husband and staff and they might stopputting the phone in his pocket. The airtubes are available from mercola.

But get rid of those nasty CFL bulbs and anything that is wireless - that is the most important thing to do. NO WIFI in the office or home. Go gigabitethernet - pay for the home installation - run the wires from room to room.  And if possible sleep with the electricity turned off - ALL THOSE THINGS DO WORK.


On 2010-01-22, at 8:07 AM, barbpom2000 wrote:

> Thanks everyone. What I am understanding is to get rid of electricty almost completely to be protected. I guess this is a much great proplem to correct then I really knew. Now I fell I wasted my moneyu on stetzers and thosephone patches you stick on. I guess a few EMF companies just made easy money on me. WHy would they give false information on how they protect you? Yea, I know the answer, the almighty dollar. It is very depressing.
>
> What does one do for there jobs, if they must have a cell phone. We cannot use a land line due to crews working out in the field. They have wirelesscomputers in all the offices. I was thinking I was doing a good job at home, but now I do think so.
>
> I will look into Mercolas site for the cell phone protector.
>
> Can some one give me the url to the information our goverment put out or the prevention article. I feel like I am up against goliath here.
>
> Thank you each and eveyone for your comment.
>
>



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Ian Kemp
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Hi,
I wouldn't be too hard on the companies selling Stetzer filters, patches
etc. They seem to work fine for many people with moderate levels of ES
symptoms. They're certainly a lot easier than complete avoidance which is
extremely difficult in the modern world. They may not be enough for people
with severe symptoms, and of course will have no noticeable effect for
people with mild or no ES.

You don't say what the level of your own symptoms are, and whether your
husband also has any. Because major avoidance is so difficult, expensive
and inconvenient, it's often simplest just to go to the level that keeps the
symptoms in check. Simple things like avoiding cellphones and
wireless/cordless phones and turning off the power at night are often a big
help. Then look to see if you can treat the underlying cause. The human
body is amazingly resilient and 99%+ of people suffer no ES symptoms at all
(at the moment...although the proportion of sufferers is increasing with
wifi and electronic gadgetry). Every case of severe ES seems to have one of
two common themes; either a long-term severe chronic illness that has
depleted the body's resistance, or continuous high levels of exposure to a
large source (sometimes combined with an underlying susceptibility). People
in the group have improved considerably by treatment in the first case or
removing/avoiding the major source in the second.

Ian

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barbpom2000
Sent: 22 January 2010 13:08
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Subject: [eSens] WOW, I am really confused.




Thanks everyone. What I am understanding is to get rid of electricty almost
completely to be protected. I guess this is a much great proplem to correct
then I really knew. Now I fell I wasted my moneyu on stetzers and those
phone patches you stick on. I guess a few EMF companies just made easy money
on me. WHy would they give false information on how they protect you? Yea, I
know the answer, the almighty dollar. It is very depressing.

What does one do for there jobs, if they must have a cell phone. We cannot
use a land line due to crews working out in the field. They have wireless
computers in all the offices. I was thinking I was doing a good job at home,
but now I do think so.

I will look into Mercolas site for the cell phone protector.

Can some one give me the url to the information our goverment put out or the
prevention article. I feel like I am up against goliath here.

Thank you each and eveyone for your comment.






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