WIFI IN APARTMENTS?

I remember a good post recently that said cordless phones were 5GHZ and WIFI-niehgbors was 2.4 GHZ??  How many GHZ would your own wifi be?

Knowing I now have to look for an apartment, I'm realizing that it is many people living very close together.  I hope to cover all my walls with a lining from LessEMF that is supposed to attenuate 90%.

But if I didn't, would I be right to assume that WIFI would be a big problem?  I assume not everyone has it, but wonder, the more people that access it, would that increase the effect or is the full effect just there to be tapped into?

Thanks guys!

Debbie

> But if I didn't, would I be right to assume that WIFI would be a big problem?  
> I assume not everyone has it, but wonder, the more people that
access it, would
> that increase the effect or is the full effect just there to be
tapped into?

Wi-Fi setup by your neighbors *is* a big problem.  I think that the
last time I checked, there were around 20 neighbor wi-fi systems that
my laptop could see in my living room!  This is why you should try to
find a place with a lower population density -- the fewer people,
the fewer wi-fi, cellphones, cordless phones, smart meters, and plasma
TV's you'll have to tolerate.

Also, I think wi-fi systems being actively used are more harmful than
wi-fi systems not in use.  Although you see people here complaining
about wi-fi systems that are left on overnight, so inactive wi-fi
systems are still a problem.

Marc

Hi Debbie,

> I remember a good post recently that said cordless phones were 5GHZ and WIFI-niehgbors was 2.4 GHZ??  How many GHZ would your own wifi be?
>  
WiFi is only 13 channels between 2401 and 2483 MHz, the same as the
802.11b/g protocol.
And because of the overlap, it reduces the effective separate channels
to 3 or 4.
Yes it shares the same spectrum as microwave ovens and several cordless
and DECT phones.

Personally, I can't see anyone with ES staying in an apartment, unless
all agree to reduce their emissions.
For shielding to be a solution, all sources of emitters must be turned
off inside the cage, and there must be no leaks to let in outside waves.
Otherwise they can bounce, amplify, and just be complicated.


> I assume not everyone has it, but wonder, the more people that access it, would that increase the effect or is the full effect just there to be tapped into?
>  

Yes a big problem.
The more WiFi equipment, the more transmitters. That increases the power
density, and the effect.

There is nothing to tap into, unless somebody nearby is running a WiFi
hotspot. (Unsecured that is)

Stewart
--
http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

Absolutely agree with marc. I live in a semi detatched house with only 1 neighbour adjoining and I can pick up 6 signals and that is bad enough. I think appartments with dense concentrations of people are a really bad idea.

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      > But if I didn't, would I be right to assume that WIFI would be a big problem?  

> I assume not everyone has it, but wonder, the more people that

access it, would

> that increase the effect or is the full effect just there to be

tapped into?



Wi-Fi setup by your neighbors *is* a big problem.  I think that the

last time I checked, there were around 20 neighbor wi-fi systems that

my laptop could see in my living room!  This is why you should try to

find a place with a lower population density -- the fewer people,

the fewer wi-fi, cellphones, cordless phones, smart meters, and plasma

TV's you'll have to tolerate.



Also, I think wi-fi systems being actively used are more harmful than

wi-fi systems not in use.  Although you see people here complaining

about wi-fi systems that are left on overnight, so inactive wi-fi

systems are still a problem.



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 










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Hi,
I live in a townhouse which is in a fourplex of townhomes.  My computer
picks up perhaps 15 or so active wi-fi users.
My best friend lives in an apartment building which is practically on the
UC Berkeley campus and is filled with college students.  She cannot even
count how many
wi-fi signals inundate her apartment on a constant basis, she is considered
to be in a "hot spot".
Unfortunately, buying a home in the San Francisco Bay Area is prohibitively
expensive (start at about one million U.S. dollars, on average).  And why
would you want to, as this area has a very high concentration of
universities (UC Berkeley and San Francisco, Cal State East Bay, San Fran
State, Stanford, U. of San Francisco, Golden Gate U., etc., etc)

I am stuck here because my husband's job is here.  BUT, if you are
fortunate enough to live in an area which does not require the surrender of
your first-born child to buy a house, buy a detached house.  Failing that,
try to get an apartment in a duplex, triplex, fourplex, etc.  The less
near-neigbors, the better.  And students, as I've indicated, leave their
wi-fi on all the time.  Try not to live in close proximity to college/grad.
students.

Good luck!!

Taliesen

P.S.  Do NOT rent anything that is directly adjacent to a transformer (they
look like metallic garbage cans perched high above the street).  I am sure
that that played a role in my becoming E.S. (although the genesis of this
malady was, for me, pesticide poisoning).  And also, even more importantly,
not near a transfer station!!

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Would a transformer be emitting RF. I ask because my sister's house has one on her power line and her house is not tolerable for me any longer? I know it is 4G LTE for the most part but wonder if it comes in on that transformer?  Loni

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Hi,
I live in a townhouse which is in a fourplex of townhomes.  My computer
picks up perhaps 15 or so active wi-fi users.
My best friend lives in an apartment building which is practically on the
UC Berkeley campus and is filled with college students.  She cannot even
count how many
wi-fi signals inundate her apartment on a constant basis, she is considered
to be in a "hot spot".
Unfortunately, buying a home in the San Francisco Bay Area is prohibitively
expensive (start at about one million U.S. dollars, on average).  And why
would you want to, as this area has a very high concentration of
universities (UC Berkeley and San Francisco, Cal State East Bay, San Fran
State, Stanford, U. of San Francisco, Golden Gate U., etc., etc)

I am stuck here because my husband's job is here.  BUT, if you are
fortunate enough to live in an area which does not require the surrender of
your first-born child to buy a house, buy a detached house.  Failing that,
try to get an apartment in a duplex, triplex, fourplex, etc.  The less
near-neigbors, the better.  And students, as I've indicated, leave their
wi-fi on all the time.  Try not to live in close proximity to college/grad.
students.

Good luck!!

Taliesen

P.S.  Do NOT rent anything that is directly adjacent to a transformer (they
look like metallic garbage cans perched high above the street).  I am sure
that that played a role in my becoming E.S. (although the genesis of this
malady was, for me, pesticide poisoning).  And also, even more importantly,
not near a transfer station!!

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Loni,

I believe she is referring to an electrical pole-mounted transformer, which are common everywhere and emit high EMF's but not microwaves.

Here is a link with a picture and a description of the various power transformer types at the bottom of the page:

http://www.powertransformer.us/polemountedtransformers.htm

<snip>
Outside a typical house you can see a pole mounted transformer mounted on the electricity pole. It's a step-down transformer used to convert the high voltage (7200 or 14400 volts) down to the standard 120/240 volts used in the home. The high voltage distribution lines (7200 or 14400 volts in the US) attach to the two bushings on top. The low voltage wires (two hot wires and one neutral) attach to the three terminals on the side. The secondary winding is center-tapped and grounded, making the two end conductors "hot" with respect to the center tap. These wires run down to the electric meter and breaker panel inside the building. Connecting a load between either hot wire and the neutral gives 120 volts. Connecting between both hot wires gives 240 volts. This is the setup for single-phase electric power in the United States. If  three-phase power, three pole mounted transformers of the appropriate KVA rating are wired in either a wye or delta transformer
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This is an old thread but thought I'd add my two cents.  One thing to watch for in apartments is the placement of the cable outlets.  In my area it is most common for people to have internet through cable and in these apartments there are only two working cable outlets - in the living room and in the master bedroom.  The way the apartments are arranged against each other this leads to many wi-fi routers in close proximity to many beds because (1) most seem to prefer to put the router in the bedroom and (2) in a three story apartment building bedrooms are stacked and living rooms in the adjacent apartments share a wall with the master beds of the neighbors.   So long story short I don't sleep so good here...

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