The nature of ES

Hi, Eli,
 
Not necessarily psychosomatic--stress is stress.  Once you cross that threshhold, stress acts the same way for everything.  Sounds like you need some adrenal support/autonomic nervous system support--thymus and/or adrenal glandular or supplements for those.  Calcium AEP and pantethineare good also.
 
Good luck,
Diane

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An ES person can die from the secondary affects
from EMF - not so much the weak EMF itself (although
that can kill you in the long run as well). For
instance, if symptoms include GERD then eventually
the sufferer can eventually die from cancer of
the esophagus.

The constant mental stress can also be a killer.
Recently my symptoms have become so acute (ever
since my neighbor got a new TV), that I have
developed a general anxiety disorder. The ES
symptoms (chest pains) have become so entrained
that I get similar pains when I'm mentally
stressed. So there is a psychosomatic angle
to all of this.

I don't think chronic headache will directly kill
a person, but in the long run who knows?

And what if someone can't escape the EMF exposure?
The cumulative affects can become overwhelming. How
much agony can a person tolerate before going insane?

Eli

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Hi, Mike,
 
I use various approaches--baths and energy exercises.  The tj permeability gene issue I mentioned in a previous post relates to ion channels--energy channels-- in the body.  If the energy channels in the body are congested, or not working properly, and you clear them or close their tjs  via exercises, that can do much for helping your symptoms.  From myperspective, I think you have to approach ES from multiple angles.  Giles, here, awhile back said he didn't think diets help ES.  That is totally dependent on whether or not you have a food issue which is influencing it.  Not everyone with ES has to go gluten-free, but those of us with gluten intolerance genes do.  (And this also goes back to the tj permeability gene, which allows glutens to open tjs.) 
 
My 2 cents,
Diane

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You touched on the point I was making with my wife, who is es.  I say that being tough and ignoring the symptoms, or retraining your brain as some advocates tout as a cure, is a dangerous course.  The same goes withany drugs that only mask the symptoms.  The symptoms tell the body  fight or flight.  Unfortunately, how can one fight?  The Germans cut down cell towers, but that is not very practical for every instance.  Flight, or avoidance, I say is the answer.  Of course, I advocate nutritional support and clay baths, etc.  I just noticed that thisissue has not been discussed that much in that way.  Therefore, I doubt the validity of q gong or reiki therapy, as well as acupuncture.  Just my thoughts. Please respond with any of your thoughts.  Mike in Phoenix.

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I'm not really qualified to answer, maybe others have more info.
I've been told there have been suicides attributable to EHS, and I would
think the risk of that could be significant for anyone who is unable to find
relief.  Otherwise it is hard to die from EHS per se because either the
autopsy would find nothing (which sometimes happens) or it would be
attributed to something else like heart stoppage or brain tumor).

There are other conditions that may also develop out of EHS, like
Parkinson's, MS, epilepsy, possibly Alzheimer's, but I can't say so with
certainty.  I was given advice not to try to "be tough" and ignore it (which
I did do before I realized I had EHS).  I think those who do that can end up
with more serious conditions.
One has to keep ones life going, meet responsibilites, maintain
relationships, and plan for the future, and at the same time minimize
exposure, improve nutrition, and not panic.  Unfortunately all of these
things are a little harder with EHS.

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> Giles, here, awhile back said he didn't think diets help ES. 
> That is totally dependent on whether or not you have a food issue which
> is influencing it.

Or whether your ES is in part due to a nutritional deficiency/imbalance
which a dietary change could correct. I have found dietary choices
to be rather important for controlling ES symptoms.

Marc

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Giles, here, awhile back said he didn't think diets help ES.
> That is totally dependent on whether or not you have a food issue which
> is influencing it.

Or whether your ES is in part due to a nutritional deficiency/imbalancO
which a dietary change could correct. I have found dietary choices
to be rather important for controlling ES symptoms.

Marc





PUK replies - I definately feel more ES after eating certain foods,
ussually the bad stuff ! Thinking about it, its a no brainer as the food stuffs
you put in your mouth will end up as fuel for your cells, just like a car
if you put in dodgy fuel it will run badly, when you are ES I guess you need
to make sure that you are taking in the right fuel otherwise it may end up
boosting the ES reactions rather than helping to calm them.

p


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Marc I totally agree with you. Diet is soooo important. Lots of crap out there that we eat.
 
Loni

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> Giles, here, awhile back said he didn't think diets help ES. 
> That is totally dependent on whether or not you have a food issue which
> is influencing it.

Or whether your ES is in part due to a nutritional deficiency/imbalanc e
which a dietary change could correct. I have found dietary choices
to be rather important for controlling ES symptoms.

Marc







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Hi, Marc,
 
You write:
"Or whether your ES is in part due to a nutritional deficiency/imbalanc e
which a dietary change could correct. I have found dietary choices
to be rather important for controlling ES symptoms."

My reply:
I so agree with you!  But I am sure Giles meant only particular food diets--ones that exclude all glutens, dairy, and/or sugar.  From reading Giles other posts I know that he does also find nutrition important.  I believe his post said that he got well without going on any "diets", and, therefore, he felt diets had nothing to do with ES.  I didn't get to respond to this at the time (written a month or2 ago) and I was merely pointing out that for some with ES, dependingon how particular foods affected them, it was important to completely remove whole categories of foods to help ES.  This is particularly true if you have a problem with glutens, dairy, and sugars, as glutens are known to open tight junctions in the brain and body, and some researchers suspect the same might be true of dairy and sugars.  (I do not know the status of current research on sugars and dairy, as I haven't been following it.)  Since emfs also open tjs, eating
anything which facilitates this even more would not likely be a good thing, was the point I was trying to make.
 
Clearing up what I thought Giles was referring to,
Diane
 
 
 


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> Giles, here, awhile back said he didn't think diets help ES. 
> That is totally dependent on whether or not you have a food issue which
> is influencing it.

Or whether your ES is in part due to a nutritional deficiency/imbalanc e
which a dietary change could correct. I have found dietary choices
to be rather important for controlling ES symptoms.

Marc








     

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