The benefit of being Earthed

> Hi Emil,
>
> Not true. I have grounded our whole bed using the grounding wire and stake from
> the http://www.sleepingearthed.com people, using an alligator clip on one end
> and we never touch the clip. The bed is grounded just by being clipped onto our regular mattress pad. We are
> getting great results.
>
> I clip the ground wire that I bought from you ( actually a copy of yours) onto my bedclothes at night. That
> alligator clip doesn't touch my skin most of the time, but I stay grounded all night. I just attached it to my
> dog's bed, and her bed and her are grounded without touching the alligator clip.
>
> Perhaps you should read what I wrote about quantum physics, and how when dealing with energy all the rules
> change. This has been confirmed by top
> Scientist in many different fields. When dealing with quantum physics, energy,
> quarks and the like, can be manipulated according to belief, thought and intention, and perhaps emotion. So
> basically whatever one believes he can do,
> he can do. What ever one thinks he can't do, he will be right about that also.
>
> I believe and I know, and now am experiencing wonderful grounding, which results
> in no more edema, no more stiffness or aches and pains in the morning, great
> positive energy in the daytime, and it gets better and better all of the time. My
> husband is experiences all this as well as going to sleep quickly, and sleeping
> all night without hardly moving.
>
> Best Regards,
> Phyllicia
>
>
> Emil DeToffol <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Phyllicia,
>
> Please note that the only effective grounding that will occur with your design is if the alligator clip itself
> makes contact with the skin. The cotton or polyester is not conductive enough to make a good electrical
> connection... unless is gets significantly wet with salty perspiration.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Emil DeToffol
> Less EMF Inc.
> [hidden email]
> www.lessemf.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: The benefit of being Earthed
>
> > Hi Emil,
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that you are the person that I bought the grounding cord from that has a
> > ground prong plug on one end and an alligator clip
> > on the other. If you are the one, then I want to thank you because I liked your
> > design well enough to copy it.
> >
> > I have given your ground cord to my daughter. She has been having Carpal Tunnel Syndrome so bad that she was
> > ready to have surgery. I talked her out
> > of the surgery for now because we are doing an experiment. I gave her the ribbed
> > top of one of my husband's old Polyester/cotton sports socks to wear on her
> > wrist at night with your ground cord clipped to it. She has only been wearing it
> > for two nights, so it is too early to tell if it will help or not. If it doesn't help then, maybe I am full of
> > hooey, but I don't think so. I just called my daughter and she
> > said that she thinks that her wrist is getting better.
> > Best Regards,
> > Phyllicia
> >
> > richsurf77 <[hidden email]> wrote: Does the salt for the salt bath have
> > to
> > be a certain type, or just
> > any salt? Has anyone had some good results with this?
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Emil DeToffol" <lessemf@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > In practice, electrical grounding is connecting electrically with a
> > reservoir of available electrons.
> > >
> > > This implies a conductive connection, and a relatively large mass
> > for the reservoir.
> > > Dipping into a salt bath meets these criteria, and connecting (by
> > wire) to a metal pipe buried in the Earth also
> > > qualifies.
> > > Naturally, there are many other ways as well.
> > > Large metal objects, like a car or truck, even if they are not
> > grounded themselves, can provide enough reservoir of
> > > electrons... but the vehicle itself could be electrically charged.
> > >
> > > Standing barefoot on carpet may be as close to the opposite as you
> > can get.
> > > Standing barefoot on some dry surfaces outdoors may not provide
> > good ground either (if the surface is not
> > > conductive, the electrons will not flow).
> > >
> > > If you touch a conducitve, grounded object, you will also be
> > grounded.
> > >
> > > Emil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "richsurf77" <richgrav@...>
> > > To: <[hidden email]>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:24 AM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: The benefit of being Earthed
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is a general reply about this thread and not to anyone
> > > > specifically. If I am downstairs with my foot/feet on the ground
> > > > (carpet) in the house am I grounded and would this have a similar
> > > > effect to the velostat devices? I do seem to always feel better
> > > > downstairs rather than upstairs. Or do you have to be outside to
> > get
> > > > the benefits of these electrons?
> > > >
> > > > Also, when you are outside can you be standing on any surface eg
> > > > earth, sand, a concrete path and be grounded?
> > > >
> > > > And if I am touching a grounded electrical device do I also become
> > > > grounded?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> it is wrong for electrosensibles to place some earthing sheets in
> > > > or under
> > > >> the bed.
> > > >> Unwanted potential differences may occur, and the result is, that
> > > > one feels
> > > >> much lousier than before.
> > > >> Also, electrical fields may be attracted by such sheets.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are many companies that try to sell *stuff against
> > > > elektrosmog*, but
> > > >> most do not have the faintest idea what it means being
> > > > electrosensible.
> > > >> And, they do not know what they are talking about.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Greetings,
> > > >> Charles Claessens
> > > >> member Verband Baubiologie
> > > >> www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > >> www.milieuziektes.be
> > > >> www.hetbitje.nl
> > > >> checked by Norton Antivirus
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Andrew McAfee" <amcafeerr@>
> > > >> To: <[hidden email]>
> > > >> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 14:47
> > > >> Subject: Re: [eSens] The benefit of being Earthed
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >I say experiment with the distance from your body. I have found
> > > > that
> > > >> > the velostat will attract electrical fields toward it and you
> > > > don't
> > > >> > want to be involved with that. Try it under your sheets, then
> > > > under the
> > > >> > mattress, then under the bed and see if you can feel a
> > difference.
> > > >> > Andrew
> > > >> > On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:33 PM, denom wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Velostat is extremely conductive. I think I will try aligator
> > > > clips
> > > >> >> and ground it and put it under my sheets. Will this work? I
> > > > cant
> > > >> >> affor 349 dollars.
> > > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >> From: phylliciah
> > > >> >> To: [hidden email]
> > > >> >> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:01 PM
> > > >> >> Subject: [eSens] The benefit of being Earthed
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I believe I picked up this website from someone on the Esens
> > > > group.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> http://www.sleepingearthed.com/index.html
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I was so impressed that I bought the mattress pad. Almost as
> > > >> >> soon as we put the thing on our bed and grounded it,
> > something
> > > >> >> happened to me that was totally unexpected. My hip bone
> > > >> >> in my right hip started moving, and although it was
> > > > temporarily a
> > > >> >> bit uncomfortable for a short time, my hip bone popped into
> > > > place.
> > > >> >> I was not aware that my hip bone was out of place, but knew
> > > > that
> > > >> >> it usually ached in the morning while I was still in bed and
> > > > that
> > > >> >> I had almost no flexibility in that joint. As soon as my hip
> > > > bone
> > > >> >> moved into place I had complete flexibility in that joint.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> No where in their literature to they talk about such a thing
> > > >> >> happening, nor are any claims made for such a thing, but
> > > > nevertheless
> > > >> >> it happened.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> But the real reason that I am writing is that I do think the
> > > > pad
> > > >> >> has a lot to do with possibly helping overcome electrical
> > > >> >> sensitivity.
> > > >> >> It is a way of gathering free electrons into the body and
> > > > overcoming
> > > >> >> free radicals in the body. It greatly reduces or eliminates
> > > >> >> inflammation in the body. This alone can greatly improve the
> > > > immune
> > > >> >> system. We all seem to agree that a strong immune system
> > makes
> > > > a
> > > >> >> person less susceptible to electric sensitivities.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Anyway, my husband and I are truly impressed with the
> > results
> > > > we are
> > > >> >> getting after only two nights using the pad.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks to whoever recommended this site.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best regards, Phyllicia
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Don't pick lemons.
> > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.
> Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> Hi Emil,
>
> Not true. I have grounded our whole bed using the grounding wire and stake from
> the http://www.sleepingearthed.com people, using an alligator clip on one end
> and we never touch the clip. The bed is grounded just by being clipped onto our regular mattress pad. We are
> getting great results.
>
> I clip the ground wire that I bought from you ( actually a copy of yours) onto my bedclothes at night. That
> alligator clip doesn't touch my skin most of the time, but I stay grounded all night. I just attached it to my
> dog's bed, and her bed and her are grounded without touching the alligator clip.
>
> Perhaps you should read what I wrote about quantum physics, and how when dealing with energy all the rules
> change. This has been confirmed by top
> Scientist in many different fields. When dealing with quantum physics, energy,
> quarks and the like, can be manipulated according to belief, thought and intention, and perhaps emotion. So
> basically whatever one believes he can do,
> he can do. What ever one thinks he can't do, he will be right about that also.
>
> I believe and I know, and now am experiencing wonderful grounding, which results
> in no more edema, no more stiffness or aches and pains in the morning, great
> positive energy in the daytime, and it gets better and better all of the time. My
> husband is experiences all this as well as going to sleep quickly, and sleeping
> all night without hardly moving.
>
> Best Regards,
> Phyllicia
>
>
> Emil DeToffol <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Phyllicia,
>
> Please note that the only effective grounding that will occur with your design is if the alligator clip itself
> makes contact with the skin. The cotton or polyester is not conductive enough to make a good electrical
> connection... unless is gets significantly wet with salty perspiration.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Emil DeToffol
> Less EMF Inc.
> [hidden email]
> www.lessemf.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: The benefit of being Earthed
>
> > Hi Emil,
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that you are the person that I bought the grounding cord from that has a
> > ground prong plug on one end and an alligator clip
> > on the other. If you are the one, then I want to thank you because I liked your
> > design well enough to copy it.
> >
> > I have given your ground cord to my daughter. She has been having Carpal Tunnel Syndrome so bad that she was
> > ready to have surgery. I talked her out
> > of the surgery for now because we are doing an experiment. I gave her the ribbed
> > top of one of my husband's old Polyester/cotton sports socks to wear on her
> > wrist at night with your ground cord clipped to it. She has only been wearing it
> > for two nights, so it is too early to tell if it will help or not. If it doesn't help then, maybe I am full of
> > hooey, but I don't think so. I just called my daughter and she
> > said that she thinks that her wrist is getting better.
> > Best Regards,
> > Phyllicia
> >
> > richsurf77 <[hidden email]> wrote: Does the salt for the salt bath have
> > to
> > be a certain type, or just
> > any salt? Has anyone had some good results with this?
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Emil DeToffol" <lessemf@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > In practice, electrical grounding is connecting electrically with a
> > reservoir of available electrons.
> > >
> > > This implies a conductive connection, and a relatively large mass
> > for the reservoir.
> > > Dipping into a salt bath meets these criteria, and connecting (by
> > wire) to a metal pipe buried in the Earth also
> > > qualifies.
> > > Naturally, there are many other ways as well.
> > > Large metal objects, like a car or truck, even if they are not
> > grounded themselves, can provide enough reservoir of
> > > electrons... but the vehicle itself could be electrically charged.
> > >
> > > Standing barefoot on carpet may be as close to the opposite as you
> > can get.
> > > Standing barefoot on some dry surfaces outdoors may not provide
> > good ground either (if the surface is not
> > > conductive, the electrons will not flow).
> > >
> > > If you touch a conducitve, grounded object, you will also be
> > grounded.
> > >
> > > Emil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "richsurf77" <richgrav@...>
> > > To: <[hidden email]>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:24 AM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: The benefit of being Earthed
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is a general reply about this thread and not to anyone
> > > > specifically. If I am downstairs with my foot/feet on the ground
> > > > (carpet) in the house am I grounded and would this have a similar
> > > > effect to the velostat devices? I do seem to always feel better
> > > > downstairs rather than upstairs. Or do you have to be outside to
> > get
> > > > the benefits of these electrons?
> > > >
> > > > Also, when you are outside can you be standing on any surface eg
> > > > earth, sand, a concrete path and be grounded?
> > > >
> > > > And if I am touching a grounded electrical device do I also become
> > > > grounded?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> it is wrong for electrosensibles to place some earthing sheets in
> > > > or under
> > > >> the bed.
> > > >> Unwanted potential differences may occur, and the result is, that
> > > > one feels
> > > >> much lousier than before.
> > > >> Also, electrical fields may be attracted by such sheets.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are many companies that try to sell *stuff against
> > > > elektrosmog*, but
> > > >> most do not have the faintest idea what it means being
> > > > electrosensible.
> > > >> And, they do not know what they are talking about.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Greetings,
> > > >> Charles Claessens
> > > >> member Verband Baubiologie
> > > >> www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > >> www.milieuziektes.be
> > > >> www.hetbitje.nl
> > > >> checked by Norton Antivirus
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Andrew McAfee" <amcafeerr@>
> > > >> To: <[hidden email]>
> > > >> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 14:47
> > > >> Subject: Re: [eSens] The benefit of being Earthed
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >I say experiment with the distance from your body. I have found
> > > > that
> > > >> > the velostat will attract electrical fields toward it and you
> > > > don't
> > > >> > want to be involved with that. Try it under your sheets, then
> > > > under the
> > > >> > mattress, then under the bed and see if you can feel a
> > difference.
> > > >> > Andrew
> > > >> > On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:33 PM, denom wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Velostat is extremely conductive. I think I will try aligator
> > > > clips
> > > >> >> and ground it and put it under my sheets. Will this work? I
> > > > cant
> > > >> >> affor 349 dollars.
> > > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >> From: phylliciah
> > > >> >> To: [hidden email]
> > > >> >> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:01 PM
> > > >> >> Subject: [eSens] The benefit of being Earthed
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I believe I picked up this website from someone on the Esens
> > > > group.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> http://www.sleepingearthed.com/index.html
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I was so impressed that I bought the mattress pad. Almost as
> > > >> >> soon as we put the thing on our bed and grounded it,
> > something
> > > >> >> happened to me that was totally unexpected. My hip bone
> > > >> >> in my right hip started moving, and although it was
> > > > temporarily a
> > > >> >> bit uncomfortable for a short time, my hip bone popped into
> > > > place.
> > > >> >> I was not aware that my hip bone was out of place, but knew
> > > > that
> > > >> >> it usually ached in the morning while I was still in bed and
> > > > that
> > > >> >> I had almost no flexibility in that joint. As soon as my hip
> > > > bone
> > > >> >> moved into place I had complete flexibility in that joint.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> No where in their literature to they talk about such a thing
> > > >> >> happening, nor are any claims made for such a thing, but
> > > > nevertheless
> > > >> >> it happened.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> But the real reason that I am writing is that I do think the
> > > > pad
> > > >> >> has a lot to do with possibly helping overcome electrical
> > > >> >> sensitivity.
> > > >> >> It is a way of gathering free electrons into the body and
> > > > overcoming
> > > >> >> free radicals in the body. It greatly reduces or eliminates
> > > >> >> inflammation in the body. This alone can greatly improve the
> > > > immune
> > > >> >> system. We all seem to agree that a strong immune system
> > makes
> > > > a
> > > >> >> person less susceptible to electric sensitivities.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Anyway, my husband and I are truly impressed with the
> > results
> > > > we are
> > > >> >> getting after only two nights using the pad.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks to whoever recommended this site.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best regards, Phyllicia
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Don't pick lemons.
> > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.
> Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> Hi Emil,
> I have a meter.
> Best Regards,
> Phyllicia
>
> Emil DeToffol <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Phyllicia,
>
> Thank you for this information. I completely believe that your symptoms
> are improved. But how do you know that your
> grounding technique is working? I mean, do you have a meter to measure the
> quality of your grounding or are you
> just saying that your method improves your symptoms?
>
> Emil
>

> What kind of meter?
> A thermometer?
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton Antivirus
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 21:03
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: The benefit of being Earthed
>
>
>> Hi Emil,
>> I have a meter.
>> Best Regards,
>> Phyllicia
>>
>> Emil DeToffol <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Phyllicia,
>>
>> Thank you for this information. I completely believe that your
>> symptoms
>> are improved. But how do you know that your
>> grounding technique is working? I mean, do you have a meter to
>> measure the
>> quality of your grounding or are you
>> just saying that your method improves your symptoms?
>>
>> Emil
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> Hi Emil,
> I have a meter.
> Best Regards,
> Phyllicia
>
> Emil DeToffol <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Phyllicia,
>
> Thank you for this information. I completely believe that your symptoms
> are improved. But how do you know that your
> grounding technique is working? I mean, do you have a meter to measure the
> quality of your grounding or are you
> just saying that your method improves your symptoms?
>
> Emil
>

> Hi Charles,
> Ouch! That is about as tacky as anyone has gotten on this site.
> It doesn't even
> deserve a serious response.
> Phylliciah
>
> charles <[hidden email]>
> wrote: What kind of meter?
> A thermometer?
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton Antivirus
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 21:03
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: The benefit of being Earthed
>
>> Hi Emil,
>> I have a meter.
>> Best Regards,
>> Phyllicia
>>
>> Emil DeToffol <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Phyllicia,
>>
>> Thank you for this information. I completely believe that your
>> symptoms
>> are improved. But how do you know that your
>> grounding technique is working? I mean, do you have a meter to
>> measure the
>> quality of your grounding or are you
>> just saying that your method improves your symptoms?
>>
>> Emil
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it
> now.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> Hi Charles,
> Ouch! That is about as tacky as anyone has gotten on this site. It
> doesn't even
> deserve a serious response.
> Phylliciah
>
> charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
> What kind of meter?
> A thermometer?
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton Antivirus
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 21:03
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: The benefit of being Earthed
>
> > Hi Emil,
> > I have a meter.
> > Best Regards,
> > Phyllicia
> >
> > Emil DeToffol <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi Phyllicia,
> >
> > Thank you for this information. I completely believe that your symptoms
> > are improved. But how do you know that your
> > grounding technique is working? I mean, do you have a meter to measure
> > the
> > quality of your grounding or are you
> > just saying that your method improves your symptoms?
> >
> > Emil
> >
>
>
>
>