Talk talk modem upgrade in the uk

 Got back from my hols ( will post on this at a later date) to find that my router/modem had died after a collision with a jug of cold water. I spoke to talk talk who mailed out a new modem directly, except that this new modem was a new upgraded variety, which when I plugged it in,literally blew off my head and shriveled my adrenals and kidneys within seconds. I immediately unplugged it and spoke to the ISP call centre who informed me that the old routers were no longer available and that in future all their modems would now be the new  updated variety ( they look like a little rectangular  tv styled box. The man on the phone was very helpful, and suggested I switch off the wi fi facility, which I did; however, when I turned the thing back on I immediately got a sharp muscular pain in my side, which I imagine was a reactionary spasm to the force of the field that the now wifi less box was giving off. It was overwhelming  to say the least, and worrying as the talk talk operator stated that they were now trying to get all their customers to transition to these new units. Even after turning the thing off and burying it in the bottom drawer, I still had a pain in my side for 2 days. I have no explanation as to what or how this happened, but I know that these new modem's are very very strong and debilitating, with or without the wi fi feature. I have since been on ebay and managed to get a another of my old modem, and intend to buy a few for future keeps, as from what talk talk said, these old modems are no longer bieng  produced and soon only the new version will be available. I recommend  that others do the same.

betty

This is not the one they sent me, but here is a pic of the new type of modems that seem to be coming out.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4566-bt-home-hub-3-to-launch-at-end-of-february.html

--- In [hidden email], "betty_starbuckle" <betty_starbuckle@...> wrote:
>
>  Got back from my hols ( will post on this at a later date) to find that my router/modem had died after a collision with a jug of cold water. I spoke to talk talk who mailed out a new modem directly, except that this new modem was a new upgraded variety, which when I plugged it in,literally blew off my head and shriveled my adrenals and kidneys within seconds. I immediately unplugged it and spoke to the ISP call centre who informed me that the old routers were no longer available and that in future all their modems would now be the new  updated variety ( they look like a little rectangular  tv styled box. The man on the phone was very helpful, and suggested I switch off the wi fi facility, which I did; however, when I turned the thing back on I immediately got a sharp muscular pain in my side, which I imagine was a reactionary spasm to the force of the field that the now wifi less box was giving off. It was overwhelming  to say the least, and worrying as the talk talk operator stated that they were now trying to get all their customers to transition to these new units. Even after turning the thing off and burying it in the bottom drawer, I still had a pain in my side for 2 days. I have no explanation as to what or how this happened, but I know that these new modem's are very very strong and debilitating, with or without the wi fi feature. I have since been on ebay and managed to get a another of my old modem, and intend to buy a few for future keeps, as from what talk talk said, these old modems are no longer bieng  produced and soon only the new version will be available. I recommend  that others do the same.
>
> betty
>

betty, can you move your desk away from the box?  


On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:58 PM, betty_starbuckle wrote:

On October  8, Auntie Patricia <[hidden email]> wrote:
> betty, can you move your desk away from the box?  

Better to just replace the modem -- modems are relatively
inexpensive, especially the older ones that don't have
wi-fi built into them.

Marc

Oh so interesting...sounds sooo very familiar to me.  I had almost the same experience with Comcast Cable about a week ago.  I came with a strong warning, I don't believe the members heard me.  I hope they don't feel what I felt soon.  Like I tried to say, I haven't encountered the Smartmeter technology yet, but I can't imagine it being worse than the new tower modem that looks like a metal tank and completely wiped me out after about 5-8 mins. of exposure even with shielding on.  Plus, afterwards I was left with extreme anxiety with the notion of this is what is next. 
 
I was told also that this is the next generation that everybody wants.  The WIFI modems are godless and if they don't cause a considerable amount of injury and misery I will be greatly surprised.
 
Welcome 2013...
 
Pam

--- On Mon, 10/8/12, betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Talk talk modem upgrade in the uk
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 4:58 PM



 



Got back from my hols ( will post on this at a later date) to find that my router/modem had died after a collision with a jug of cold water. I spoke to talk talk who mailed out a new modem directly, except that this new modem was a new upgraded variety, which when I plugged it in,literally blew off my head and shriveled my adrenals and kidneys within seconds. I immediately unplugged it and spoke to the ISP call centre who informed me that the old routers were no longer available and that in future all their modems would now be the new updated variety ( they look like a little rectangular tv styled box. The man on the phone was very helpful, and suggested I switch off the wi fi facility, which I did; however, when I turned the thing back on I immediately got a sharp muscular pain in my side, which I imagine was a reactionary spasm to the force of the field that the now wifi less box was giving off. It was overwhelming to say the least, and worrying as the
 talk talk operator stated that they were now trying to get all their customers to transition to these new units. Even after turning the thing off and burying it in the bottom drawer, I still had a pain in my side for 2 days. I have no explanation as to what or how this happened, but I know that these new modem's are very very strong and debilitating, with or without the wi fi feature. I have since been on ebay and managed to get a another of my old modem, and intend to buy a few for future keeps, as from what talk talk said, these old modems are no longer bieng produced and soon only the new version will be available. I recommend that others do the same.

betty








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I'm still not convinced that in 3 or 4 years when the masses have these things that purchasing a wifi-less router is going to be the end all be all-- we can only hope.  Don't you think that at some point in time we will have to get up off of the cans and take a real political stand for our future?
 
Pam

--- On Mon, 10/8/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Talk talk modem upgrade in the uk
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 6:02 PM



 



On October 8, Auntie Patricia <[hidden email]> wrote:
> betty, can you move your desk away from the box?

Better to just replace the modem -- modems are relatively
inexpensive, especially the older ones that don't have
wi-fi built into them.

Marc







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Well, I don't know if any of the technology used by Comcast is based on the same type of features.  The Comcast modem is physically different in that it is a tower.  This Home Hub 3 is at least sleak in appearance, but the width could be awkward. 
 
The tower was basically an ugly verticle box spewing radiowaves from all sides. Ouch!
 
Pam

--- On Mon, 10/8/12, betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Talk talk modem upgrade in the uk
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 5:03 PM



 



This is not the one they sent me, but here is a pic of the new type of modems that seem to be coming out.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4566-bt-home-hub-3-to-launch-at-end-of-february.html

--- In [hidden email], "betty_starbuckle" <betty_starbuckle@...> wrote:
>
> Got back from my hols ( will post on this at a later date) to find that my router/modem had died after a collision with a jug of cold water. I spoke to talk talk who mailed out a new modem directly, except that this new modem was a new upgraded variety, which when I plugged it in,literally blew off my head and shriveled my adrenals and kidneys within seconds. I immediately unplugged it and spoke to the ISP call centre who informed me that the old routers were no longer available and that in future all their modems would now be the new updated variety ( they look like a little rectangular tv styled box. The man on the phone was very helpful, and suggested I switch off the wi fi facility, which I did; however, when I turned the thing back on I immediately got a sharp muscular pain in my side, which I imagine was a reactionary spasm to the force of the field that the now wifi less box was giving off. It was overwhelming to say the least, and worrying as
 the talk talk operator stated that they were now trying to get all their customers to transition to these new units. Even after turning the thing off and burying it in the bottom drawer, I still had a pain in my side for 2 days. I have no explanation as to what or how this happened, but I know that these new modem's are very very strong and debilitating, with or without the wi fi feature. I have since been on ebay and managed to get a another of my old modem, and intend to buy a few for future keeps, as from what talk talk said, these old modems are no longer bieng produced and soon only the new version will be available. I recommend that others do the same.
>
> betty
>








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On October  8, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Don't you think that at some point in time we will have to
> get up off of the cans and take a real political stand for
> our future?

There are, of course, people already doing that.  If you've
got the skills, the energy, the money, and/or the initiative
to help them out, then more power to you!  But many of the
people here are simply trying to survive as best they can.
Or merely want to become "normal" again.

Personally, I think that the number of ES people will
just keep rising, and as such so will the awareness
that there is a problem and something needs to be done
about it.  And that will happen with or without you
personally helping.

Marc

advertise that you have a NEW modem that you'd
like to trade for an OLD modem and you will have
people at your door in seconds.  everyone wants
the NEW technology... unaware of the EMS
phenomenon... most people are not as sensitive
as we are... i think their bodies are not as
susceptible.  


On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:58 PM, betty_starbuckle wrote:

> Got back from my hols ( will post on this at a later date) to find that my router/modem had died after a collision with a jug of cold water. I spoke to talk talk who mailed out a new modem directly, except that this new modem was a new upgraded variety, which when I plugged it in,literally blew off my head and shriveled my adrenals and kidneys within seconds. I immediately unplugged it and spoke to the ISP call centre who informed me that the old routers were no longer available and that in future all their modems would now be the new  updated variety ( they look like a little rectangular  tv styled box. The man on the phone was very helpful, and suggested I switch off the wi fi facility, which I did; however, when I turned the thing back on I immediately got a sharp muscular pain in my side, which I imagine was a reactionary spasm to the force of the field that the now wifi less box was giving off. It was overwhelming  to say the least, and worrying as the talk talk operato
> r stated that they were now trying to get all their customers to transition to these new units. Even after turning the thing off and burying it in the bottom drawer, I still had a pain in my side for 2 days. I have no explanation as to what or how this happened, but I know that these new modem's are very very strong and debilitating, with or without the wi fi feature. I have since been on ebay and managed to get a another of my old modem, and intend to buy a few for future keeps, as from what talk talk said, these old modems are no longer bieng  produced and soon only the new version will be available. I recommend  that others do the same.
>
> betty
>

this is so weird timing - I have just slaved over my laptop for a least  
8hrs trying to suss out why my ethernet card was not working, tried mY ISP for
 advice etc no luck, tried to download drivers etc no luck in the end it
was just  as simple as going into the bios using f2 and enabling the card !!!!
I feel  tottaly spaced out now, basically the router I had that was wired
did not work  so I gave up and turned to the premium router from my ISP -AOL,
as this has  multiple lan ethernet ports, sadly its wireless and has
extended range, so I  disabled this no problem, but here is where it ties in with
this topic thread -
 
The AOL router has the most horrendous electric field coming form it  
reaching out at 0ver 80 voltsper meter at 1m away from the unit - this is due to  
the no earthed plug on the switched mode power supply, that may well be
what is  effecteing the other person who wrote the original thread here.  
Checking  the noise form the router using an AM radio revealed that it was so
noisy that  it was broadcasting from my fishtank some 10 mteres away.  I now
have  really bad timitus in my right ear as if someone has clapped their hands
over my  ear or there has been a loud explosion.
 
I will see if I can change the power supply.
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 09/10/2012 06:49:40 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
advertise that you have a NEW modem that you'd
like to trade for an OLD  modem and you will have
people at your door in seconds. everyone wants  
the NEW technology... unaware of the EMS
phenomenon... most people are  not as sensitive
as we are... i think their bodies are not as  
susceptible.

On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:58 PM, betty_starbuckle  wrote:

> Got back from my hols ( will post on this at a later date)  to find that
my router/modem had died after a collision with a jug of cold  water. I
spoke to talk talk who mailed out a new modem directly, except that  this new
modem was a new upgraded variety, which when I plugged it  in,literally blew
off my head and shriveled my adrenals and kidneys within  seconds. I
immediately unplugged it and spoke to the ISP call centre who  informed me that the
old routers were no longer available and that in future  all their modems
would now be the new updated variety ( they look like a  little rectangular tv
styled box. The man on the phone was very helpful, and  suggested I switch
off the wi fi facility, which I did; however, when I turned  the thing back
on I immediately got a sharp muscular pain in my side, which I  imagine was
a reactionary spasm to the force of the field that the now wifi  less box
was giving off. It was overwhelming to say the least, and worrying as  the
talk talk ope rato
> r stated that they were now trying to get all  their customers to
transition to these new units. Even after turning the thing  off and burying it in
the bottom drawer, I still had a pain in my side for 2  days. I have no
explanation as to what or how this happened, but I know that  these new modem's
are very very strong and debilitating, with or without the  wi fi feature. I
have since been on ebay and managed to get a another of my  old modem, and
intend to buy a few for future keeps, as from what talk talk  said, these
old modems are no longer bieng produced and soon only the new  version will be
available. I recommend that others do the same.
>  
> betty
>






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Thanks Marc...I must agree!  Hopefully we are at least willing to do the small things to bring about changes as quickly as possible.  So that we don't have to wait 50 years to manifest real significant and healthful changes.  Even a signature on a petition is something, right? For the people on eSens, especially those who provide information and healthful advice to one another-- this is great!  I appreciate eSens for sure!

It just seems like without the right actions, this complete inundation of frequencies all over the spectrum will potentially affect many unknowing people and these gizmos nowadays make cell phone, DECT and WIFI seem trumped and insignificant by comparison.  Even with all of the political and activist involvement to date that Essers all over the world are engaging in-- the technical world is rolling out these potentially tortuous devices at a more alarming rate and leaving a blueprint that may say, "We don't care, we are taking away ALL of your wired options because the masses want wireless."

When your options are gone then what choice will you have but to get more radically involved-- or as you stated earlier-- leave it up to someone else. Only time will tell, right?

I'm just so happy to see members on this sight with their own websites and technologies and broad missions to take on this terror- including you Marc for your efforts.  I guess unless one of the wireless tower modems or new type of modem show up on the other members radar, they will be none the wiser.  This is like me with the Smart meters I have yet to encounter.  Still, I at least am aware that they are coming.

Here, I have witnessed a handful of people that seem to have been blessed to completely eradicate their symptoms. Still, what I get is that there are some maybe many who maintain a fine balance.  I would hate for people who think that "I've made it- I've overcome"  only to have that reality trumped by the next series of assaults waiting around the bend to impose that kind of torture- yet again.

If we as a "growing" group come together, then we are "real"-- tangible, a potential force to be reckoned with if need be-- even on paper.  I guess my real concern is, "We ain't seen nothing, yet."

Pam

--- On Mon, 10/8/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Talk talk modem upgrade in the uk
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 11:56 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
      On October  8, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Don't you think that at some point in time we will have to

> get up off of the cans and take a real political stand for

> our future?



There are, of course, people already doing that.  If you've

got the skills, the energy, the money, and/or the initiative

to help them out, then more power to you!  But many of the

people here are simply trying to survive as best they can.

Or merely want to become "normal" again.



Personally, I think that the number of ES people will

just keep rising, and as such so will the awareness

that there is a problem and something needs to be done

about it.  And that will happen with or without you

personally helping.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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